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Trump Promises a Federal Technology Overhaul To Save $1 Trillion (technologyreview.com)

New submitter threc shares a report from MIT Technology Review: The tech world descended on Washington, D.C. yesterday to attend a tech summit at the White House. According to MIT Technology Review associate editor Jamie Condliffe: "Trump suggested he might relax his stance on immigration as a way to get tech leaders to help his cause. 'You can get the people you want,' he told the assembled CEOs. That sweetener may be a response to a very vocal backlash in the tech world against the administration's recent travel bans. Trump may hope that his business-friendly stance will offer enough allure: if tech giants scratch his back, he may later deign to scratch theirs." The report continues: "'Our goal is to lead a sweeping transformation of the federal government's technology that will deliver dramatically better services for citizens,' said Trump at the start of his meeting with the CEOs, according to the Washington Post. 'We're embracing big change, bold thinking, and outsider perspectives.' The headline announcement from the event was Trump's promise to overhaul creaking government computing infrastructure. According to Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law and advisor, there's much to be done: federal agencies have over 6,000 data centers that could be consolidated, for instance, while the 10 oldest networks in use by the government are all at least 39 years old. The upgrade, said Trump, could save the country $1 trillion over the next 10 years."

381 comments

  1. It doesn't look good for I.T. by Provocateur · · Score: 1

    When the first words uttered were
     
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    1. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by tysonedwards · · Score: 2

      The true way to 1 Trillion dollars in savings over 10 years is to take a page from China's playbook and forego the great wall 2.0 and instead build a new, greater firewall 3.0 to protect the country from all those nasty threats like China, Nigeria and those damned pirates on the digital oceans spanning the digital coasts with swords and way too many R's...

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    2. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 1

      I am amazed at the ignorance.

      Trump is not going to help Putin. He puts America first.

      Your diatribe is nonsensical, peppered with ad hominem and conspiracy hogwash....

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    3. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by quenda · · Score: 2

      instead build a new, greater firewall 3.0 to protect the country from all those nasty threats like China,

      And make China pay for it?

    4. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by gtall · · Score: 0

      Screw it, we need a Great Wall to protect the country from Trump.

    5. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *homonym

    6. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure Ivan

    7. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      "He puts America first" when he stole the election by using Voter ID to ban 230,000 voters in the three states he won by 22,000 each?
      No, he puts TRUMP first, and Putin can help him get richer.

    8. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      EXACTLY. If we don't ID voters, TRUMP can have RUSSIANS flown in from the former soviet union to vote for HIM and no one is the wiser.

    9. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how did Trump do that, exactly? Did he just go to each state, assume dictatorial powers, and change the laws of those states by himself just before the election for the only political office he's ever held?

      Idiot.

      Besides, I don't see what's wrong with voter ID.

      Drive a car? ID
      Buy alcohol/cigarettes? ID
      Get into a night club? ID
      Get a prescription? ID

      Seriously, how do you not have an ID in this country? Likewise, I highly doubt the numbers you cited are anywhere near being accurate.

    10. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the time the US start the healing process required after this maniac China will be accelerating ahead even more, all while smiling, this is making easier for them to become the topmost economic and technology world power

    11. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never been asked for ID to get a prescription, and people who don't have IDs don't go to clubs and don't own cars. They're poor.

        And they tend to vote Democrat. Which is why Republicans push to require IDs to vote even though there is no evidence of voter fraud which could easily be detected anyway (we use signature comparison where I'm from).

    12. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by publiclurker · · Score: 1

      you should be sure to mark this as sarcasm. Trump supporters are so ignorant that they would think that you are serious.

    13. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      build a new, greater firewall 3.0 to protect the country from all those nasty threats like [...] Nigeria

      We should build a firewall around Nigeria and make them pay for it. Seriously, Nigeria makes the internet worse. We can airdrop Wikipedia sd cards and coke bottles until they get their shit together.

    14. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't believe this! We voted for Trump to end H1B, now he is negotiating over it and signalling that he is going to let them keep it. Perhaps it is time to make investors pull out their money, a few people found bleeding from their heads should persuade the rest not to put their money where Americans do not come first.

    15. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *hominem

    16. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Trump says that hiring American is part of MAGA, but watch who he hires and where he gets stuff produced. He has a lot of business interests in Russia. This isn't bad by itself, but he gets awfully secretive about them.

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    17. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by MercTech · · Score: 1

      Hmm, I have to show photo ID any time I pick up a prescription on the controlled list. i.e. Lortab prescribed by the Dentist before a tooth extraction.

      And every election seems to have a couple of prosecutions for voter fraud. The interesting one was a nurse at a nursing home that sent in absentee ballots for everyone in the home voting for the nurse's preferred candidates. Then, when a local church provided a bus for the denizens of the nursing home to the polls; it was a shit show with a bus load of cranky octogenarians being turned away from the polls as "they had already voted".

      And, yes, where I live you have to show ID to vote after that fiasco hit the news.

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    18. Re: It doesn't look good for I.T. by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      That's incorrect. I've been poor.and every poor person I have ever known has had an ID, and if they didn't they tried to get one as soon as possible, and if you don't have the money the state will pay for it and numerous non profit organizations will also. So the fact that you have never been asked for ID for your prescriptions is either false, or someone was breaking the law. You may live in a very small town, but in that case I doubt an ID law would matter if you knew everybody. So please tell me more about requiring an ID for something like voting, is any different than requiring ID for driving or owning things or EVERY DAY life in the USA.

  2. I have my doubts by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doubts that it's going to save $1 trillion. Trump lies constantly and he won't stick to anything he says, so this could even be true in that he'll actually try but as soon as the plan hits any minor bumps he'll give up on it, move on to something else, and blame the Democrats for it. Right now the only "promise" he seems inclined to keep is to try to deport just about every illegal immigrant DHS can get its hands on.

    1. Re:I have my doubts by swb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't care if Steve Jobs, William Hewitt, David Packard, Seymour Cray, Bill Joy, Linus Torvarlds, Ken Olsen, Ghandi, and Jesus Christ collaborated on this project it could save $1 trillion. These are fantasy numbers and a project this scale would have $10 trillion in hidden costs and risks.

      Trumps association with it only adds 0.00001% extra uncertainty.

    2. Re:I have my doubts by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This sounds like something the clueless PHB would say after watching a vendor's webinar on how their new fog* technology is going to save 90% over cloud services.

      *fog is the new hotness, google it

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    3. Re:I have my doubts by houghi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      On the plus side, he reinstates H-1B visa's, so that is great, right?

      I think what we should do is tie him to a dynamo and get energy from all his turning around on his points.

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    4. Re:I have my doubts by XXongo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Doubts that it's going to save $1 trillion.

      The goal in all these things is that the concept is to spend money now in order to save money later.

      The reality in all these things is that the "spend money now" part happens, but the "save money later" part never seems to materialize.

    5. Re:I have my doubts by Kierthos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also, didn't he basically just treat a "We'd like to do this thing?" as a "It's a done deal, I'm signing this now." for an air traffic control overhaul? (Or am I remembering the wrong thing?)

      Regardless, Trump is all sizzle and no steak. He will say anything that makes him look good, and well, if his attention wanders later and no one ever gets around to doing anything, it doesn't matter, because Trump has already moved on to the next shiny thing.

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    6. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure this is really that much about anyone's doubts. You could just seeing a good example of entropy being introduced, more and more, into a system.

    7. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Doubts that it's going to save $1 trillion. Trump lies constantly and he won't stick to anything he says...

      I'm sure he'll close Gitmo and end warrantless wiretapping any day now, just like he promised when he was a Senator running for President.

      Oh, and if you like your insurance plan, you'll be able to keep your insurance plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

      Hmmm, I wonder how many times you posted how Obama lied about fundamental things he actually did have direct control over, and not just promises about things in the future.

      I'm betting zero.

    8. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Is anyone surprised by the move to back off fixing H-1B abuse? I'm certainly not. I'm more surprised working technology professionals also bought into the con man's words.

      Threats he pushed were simply to pressure other wealthy people to stroke his own ego and feel superior, a show of power. He's a sociopath plain and simple, he doesn't care about social/policy reform that helps your average american and never did. Everything Trump does is for Trump so stop pretending otherwise.

    9. Re:I have my doubts by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

      The reality in all these things is that the "spend money now" part happens, but the "save money later" part never seems to materialize.

      That's because the contractor's job is finished after "spend money now".

    10. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would save on CO2, for sure. But his farts. OMG, his farts.

    11. Re:I have my doubts by GLMDesigns · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hiring free market, limited government judges.
      Relaxing burdensome regulations - coal mine opening (and no the coal is not used for heating or electricity but for the production of steel)
      Pushing for (instead of against) the Keystone Pipeline
      Pushing for (instead of against) fracking
      Pushing for (instead of against) off-shore drilling
      Getting out of the TPP
      Getting out of the Paris Treaty

      You may agree, or disagree with what's being done. I certainly have my problems with Trump and the Republicans. But you need to stop lying to yourself and others that nothing is being done and that goals are not being accomplished. And, as you mentioned, increased funding and activity on illegal immigration.

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    12. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, since all Obama (or all presidents) lie, it's OK that Trump lies. Got it.

    13. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pessimist.

    14. Re:I have my doubts by thegarbz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Trumps association with it only adds 0.00001% extra uncertainty.

      There's no uncertainty about Trump's association. Uncertainty implies that it could go either way. Given Trump's past business dealings it is pretty damn obvious what will happen. He can't monetise his name on it so there's nothing left to generate income.

    15. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Always blaming Trump and calling him stupid. How about any government/company saying they can save X dollars upgrading their computers will always cost more.

    16. Re:I have my doubts by HaaPoo · · Score: 1

      i can tell you mist will further reduce you fog services cost by 90%, by the time we get to the ground it will start paying you. *mist is even hotter than fog

    17. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      his powerbase of support consists largely of gun-toting rednecks who plaster memes over the internet that have absolutely now clue how technology works.. only that tech workers make shitloads more money than they do. so ya, this will go over real well, just like 'building the wall', 'draining the swamp' and 'lock her up'. rile up the masses. that's all this is about. never mind the fact that trump is stupid af and doesn't have a clue, either.

    18. Re:I have my doubts by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

      Contain them, light them, spin a turbine.

    19. Re:I have my doubts by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The issue is not that nothing is happening, it's that he is simply tearing up a lot of stuff without any real plan to replace it or understanding of why it is there in the first place.

      The environmental stuff is the best example, but consider TPP. Trump thinks it's a bad deal and he can do better. Okay, but other countries don't want that. Japan is quite openly stalling and trying to wait out his presidency before proposing the US join TPP again, because they don't want a bilateral deal where Trump tries to bully them into making concessions. In a multilateral deal it's much harder to force single issues like tariffs on US beef in Japan.

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    20. Re:I have my doubts by Desler · · Score: 3, Informative

      Obama isn't president anymore so has zero relevance to the story at hand which is about Trump.

    21. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Light moisture with a low risk of rain will start paying you immediately without all that prep bullshit. Light moisture with a low risk of rain is even hotter than mist.

    22. Re:I have my doubts by v1 · · Score: 1

      "'Our goal is to lead a sweeping transformation of the federal government's technology that will deliver dramatically better services for citizens,'

      So he thinks he's going to cut spending and improve services? Sounds like the hucksters and their perpetual motion machines, they both seem to think they can defy physics and common sense. (reminds me of "we're going to cut taxes but not take away social services" plan)

      If he continues the way he's been going, he'll just cancel all all the Federal Technology programs or defund them into shutdown. Sure that'l save money, but it certainly won't make them provide "better service". Unless Trump considers "gone" to be "better service" - and I suspect that's the case. I think if he doesn't like something, he considers getting rid of it as calling it "improved". Hey we're going to "improve" your broken leg by cutting it off!

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    23. Re:I have my doubts by Desler · · Score: 1

      Yes, from your list Trump is doing a great job alienating allies and creating diplomatic vacuums for countries like China to fill.

    24. Re:I have my doubts by GLMDesigns · · Score: 2

      Keep on keeping on.

      There are a lot Pepe's working in IT.
      And a lot of college dropouts (doesn't mean they're stupid or uneducated) who run businesses.

      Keep believing your opponents are stupid rednecks. (No. That's not racist is it? Of course if you said stupid do-rag wearing ghetto kid that wouldn't be racist either. ... Or would it. Nice f**king double standards.)

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    25. Re:I have my doubts by GLMDesigns · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That wasn't the point. The OP said nothing was being done and that Trump wasn't keeping his promises.

      That was a list of things being done and promises kept.

      Do you and I have disagreements with Trump? Yes. Probably. (I can't speak for you) But don't kid yourself. Things are getting done.

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    26. Re:I have my doubts by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Funny

      I disagree. Trump's association with it adds nearly 100% certainty. Just like if you're not sure if a patient is going to survive an operation, giving them a liter of cyanide introduces a lot of certainty.

    27. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only one alienating allies and causing true divide is the liberal media and the people like you that feed into their propaganda

    28. Re:I have my doubts by c · · Score: 4, Funny

      fog is the new hotness, google it

      I was 99% sure you were just messing with people. Fuck. They even have a consortium.

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    29. Re:I have my doubts by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      If you promise something and then fail to deliver, I'll call you a liar. Simple as that. And so far, that far is the OP right, pretty much the only thing he actually delivered was to start deporting illegal immigrants.

      Promises are cheap. Ask anyone who lived in a Soviet country.

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    30. Re:I have my doubts by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      Right and any of those things are anywhere close to the guy who made a speech in the rain and then 10 minutes later lied to the CIA and told them it wasn't raining ...

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    31. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That wasn't the point. The OP said nothing was being done and that Trump wasn't keeping his promises.

      That was a list of things being done and promises kept.

      Do you and I have disagreements with Trump? Yes. Probably. (I can't speak for you) But don't kid yourself. Things are getting done.

      So you basically shift the meaning of the phrase "things getting done" and proclaim victory in this argument. Thats bullshit. Tomorrow you will claim Trump is still tweeting about it as things getting done! What we here mean by things getting done is at least make an effort to fix something. Maybe try something that looks like it will have a positive impact. And simply tearing up existing agreements because you think they dont work does not count as "doing something"!

    32. Re:I have my doubts by lexman098 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Objectively, your list is hardly one of real accomplishments. Appointing judges is just fulfilling his responsibility to choose who's appointed. "Relaxing regulations" is basically just saying "yeah go do what you want". Your list of "pushing for" is again just not standing in the way of the status quo. "Getting out of" international agreements is just a statement of "doing nothing".

      In short, he's "accomplished" his goal of having the government do absolutely nothing. His supporters will be pleased.

    33. Re:I have my doubts by avandesande · · Score: 1

      OMG doubling down on marketing awfulness. We really need another recession....

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    34. Re: I have my doubts by swb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's different kinds of surprise. Am I surprised a politician, any politician, changed their tune? No. Trump specifically? My sense is that Trump quickly found himself lacking in people who would back him politically and has unfortunately begun to align himself more and more with the huckster caucus of the Republican party, those Republicans interested in enriching themselves and their corporate minions even further.

      So Trump's turnaround in this issue is less than surprising in light of that, too, as those kinds of Republicans will all be leveraging that issue and it's just another thing for Trump to sell out on. I don't know that this is "bad Trump" or just another politician seeking political expediency.

      I'm more surprised working technology professionals also bought into the con man's words.

      You roll the dice and take your chances. What kinds of choices did people have? Hillary was bought and paid for and would have never considered H-1B reform because of her affiliation with Wall Street and Silicon Valley. Further, Democrats are allergic to any talk surrounding immigration that sounds like limits on immigration. They've drank their own kool-aid on immigration control being racism and also work hard to cultivate to every minority constituency.

      So were technology people duped? Maybe, but only by their own misguided hopes that a politician would buck a lot of money influence. I think you can say that the issue got a lot more press because of Trump's statements on it, so maybe in some sense they got out of it all that could reasonably be expected.

      At this point I think there's just too much money being made/saved on H1-Bs to get much traction on the issue. The nominal wage savings runs into the billions and the side money made probably some substantial fraction of that, and nearly all of it is short-term-result kinds of money, which seems to have a value multiplier among corporate types.

    35. Re:I have my doubts by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Nobody questions that things get done.

      What of all this was part of something he promised to do?

      What of the promises has been fulfilled?

      I know that Rome wasn't built in a day and it's unfair to expect everything being done after 4 months when former Presidents couldn't get their promises fulfilled in the 4 years they had, but I'd really like to see SOMETHING being done instead of pretty much the polar opposite of what he said he'd do.

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    36. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      COST $1TUSD perhaps. Think of all the contractors with dollar signs in their eyes hoping to get the contracts to "save" all that money...

    37. Re:I have my doubts by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hush! We're busy getting our foot into the Chinese door, keep the orange dud busy a bit more, will ya?

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    38. Re:I have my doubts by Opportunist · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Of course it's not racist. It's negatively stereotyping mostly white guys, so it's ok, carry on.

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    39. Re:I have my doubts by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      There are likely a number of areas where very meaningful savings could be achieved, if it was really accounted for in the first place. The government is about 15 years behind the private sector in many IT cost-savings initiatives including data center consolidation.

      But actually making some of these changes work will cost huge sums and be fraught with risks.

    40. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He never said that, he did however point out the likely hypocrisy of GP.

    41. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Are they using Washington math? Saving $1 Trillion might actually mean only adding $9 Trillion instead of $10 Trillion to the budget over 20 years. I love it when a government budget was originally projected to increase by $5 Billion but it only increased by $4 Billion and they have the nerve to call that a $1 Billion CUT and act like widows and orphans are going to starve because of those 'draconian measures'.

    42. Re:I have my doubts by GLMDesigns · · Score: 2

      Yes.

      His supporters are pleased, And he didn't simply appoint judges - he appointed small-gov't, free market supporting judges.

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    43. Re:I have my doubts by GLMDesigns · · Score: 0

      The list given was of things he promised to do.

      You and I may not like some, or all, of those things. That is irrelevant. They were promises kept.

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    44. Re:I have my doubts by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      Negatively stereotyping X is the definition of racism. (Especially the current day expansion of racism)

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    45. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump lies constantly and he won't stick to anything he says, ...

      Here's a list of campaign promises kept (from Politico):
      - Reverse Barack Obama's Cuba policy
      - Create private White House veterans hotline
      - Cancel the Paris climate agreement
      - Slash federal regulations
      - Place lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying for foreign government
      - Nominate someone from his list of justices to replace Antonin Scalia
      - Stop the Trans-Pacific Partnership
      - Save the Carrier plant in Indiana
      - Reverse Barack Obama's 2016 gun executive order

      Other promises are in the works and a few were broken. Hardly "won't stick to anything" like you would say.
      It's stupid rhetoric like this that turns more and more people off from the Democrats. It's too the point now where I wont even consider Democrats any longer. The Progressives/Socialists/Communists need to be kicked out for me to consider them again

    46. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Light moisture with a low risk of rain will start paying you immediately without all that prep bullshit. Light moisture with a low risk of rain is even hotter than mist.

      Evaporating condensate will Trump Light moisture, mist, and fog. It's pretty hot, but when they drop Humidity to 0%, then you're talking about really, really hot stuff.

    47. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Regardless, Trump is all sizzle and no steak. He will say anything that makes him look good, and well, if his attention wanders later and no one ever gets around to doing anything, it doesn't matter, because Trump has already moved on to the next shiny thing.

      Just like Twitter. Oh wait, isn't that his thing?

    48. Re:I have my doubts by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I thought so too, but apparently it has been redefined. Generally it now means if you're white you have to be it and if you're black you cannot be it. Personally, I consider that a bit racist that something is defined in a way that says that black people can't do or be something just because they're black, but hey, go with the times!

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    49. Re:I have my doubts by mrun4982 · · Score: 2

      Until he can get a single piece of legislation passed through congress, he hasn't done anything. Any president can come up with and sign an executive order; that's the easy part of the job.

    50. Re:I have my doubts by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Wait, he promised to do that and got elected because not despite it?

      I just found out that there is a form of government worse than despotism. A democracy with a clueless electorate.

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    51. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because you lack a fact based decision making ability.

    52. Re:I have my doubts by GrumpySteen · · Score: 2

      Also, didn't he basically just treat a "We'd like to do this thing?" as a "It's a done deal, I'm signing this now." for an air traffic control overhaul?

      Not exactly. He proposed that we give up on air traffic control and let the airlines handle it themselves because corporations good, governments bad.

      The senate panel that reviewed his proposal didn't even put it up for a vote because they knew it would fail.

    53. Re:I have my doubts by The+Raven · · Score: 1

      So... they just gave a buzzword to 'Use bittorrent and distributed caching services'? Because as far as I can tell that's all fog computing is... using client resources and distributed services. Bittorrent, Akamai, eCurrencies... they just created a buzzword to describe what many services have been doing for decades.

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    54. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And just wait til you see the new vapor tech.

    55. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you'r plan is to regulate businesses into higher profitability?

    56. Re:I have my doubts by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      This one's 'a brick'...doesn't read, just repeats.

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    57. Re:I have my doubts by GLMDesigns · · Score: 2

      Of course you realize that small government, free market types consider Obama / Jill Stein supporters to be part of the so-called "clueless electorate."

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    58. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not even a supporter. I'm pleased as all hell. ROI is fuckin' nuts of late.

      I don't give a shit what bathroom some dude in a dress wants to use. Unisex bathrooms for everyone, for all I care.

      Show me the money, bitches.

    59. Re:I have my doubts by wasteoid · · Score: 1

      It doesn't stop there! The layer below fog, which is below cloud, is dew computing.

    60. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, when it's "finished" is when the contractors camp out to collect the additional 1000% of the project's budget.

    61. Re:I have my doubts by gtall · · Score: 1

      Move on? Right now he cannot even recall the meeting. That was yesterday. Today is entirely new ready for a fresh load of unsupported innuendo, conspiracy theories, and denial of science.

    62. Re: I have my doubts by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 2

      Hillary also isn't President. Let's give that up, too.

      Okay?

    63. Re:I have my doubts by bobbied · · Score: 0

      Trump lies constantly

      Citation please? Do you have any proof of your assumption?

      Oh, wait, that's a personal opinion, you won't be able to make a provable case on this..

      Remember, lying is intentionally leading people to believe something that you know is not true. So to prove a lie, you need to prove that the liar KNOWS what the truth is and is intentionally misleading others.

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    64. Re:I have my doubts by bobbied · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, the poster was pointing out that the liberal leftists are displaying a double standard. They didn't care about Obama's bald faced lies used to sell the fundamental parts of his political accomplishments, yet find Trump's campaign rhetoric and the "promises" he made there to be lies, even though he's been in office less than a year..

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    65. Re:I have my doubts by gtall · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, the goal was to promise $1 Trillion over 10 years. El Presidentie Tweetie knows Americans will remember the $1 Trillion, not the 10 years.

      His modus operandi is to promise and predict with wild abandon. The stuff that doesn't come true is lost on the voters, the stuff that miraculously does come true, in spite of el Presidentie Tweetie, he'll trumpet. He took credit for Ford saving all those Ford Focus jobs and keeping them in America. Ford just announced it was moving production to China. Wanna bet we hear either (1) nothing from that bozo, or (2) some whiny tweet claiming he was snookered. Great deal maker? In his dreams and only there.

    66. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      retard

    67. Re:I have my doubts by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1
    68. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      On the doubleplus side, he'll include a $1 trillion worth of tax cuts to wealthy people and corporations!

    69. Re:I have my doubts by gtall · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Free market judges will make Americans love the extra pollution?
      Freeing burdensome regulations like those preventing the for-profit colleges from screwing ex-military?
      Pushing for Keystone which will have a negligible effect on employment...except if they get an oil spill and foul watersheds?
      Off-shore drilling in an era of a world awash in oil?
      No one's curtailed fracking except Oklahoma where it is causing earthquakes.
      The Paris Treaty was voluntary, all that idiot needed to do was not volunteer, but it still made his supporters think it was a great achievement while the rest of the world looked at him like he was just too stupid for words.
      Getting out to the TPP will turn the Pacific Ocean into the Sea of China, the countries bordering China now know not to count on the U.S.

    70. Re:I have my doubts by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      You don't even need to bring Trump into this to realize it's a lie and wont' succeed. This isn't the first time they've tried to replace everything and make it all cheaper, every time they try they bring in the IBM's and Oracles and other companies that are absolutely happy to bill to an endless contract and produce absolutely nothing.

      The answer here isn't to reform everything, the problem they have now is that the systems are all way to big, designed in the 70's and 80's when everything ran on mainframes. What they have are huge monolithic applications that were developed all at once and have had decades of individual little features patched in. To replace them as the same monolithic monster is frankly impossible. The only way to upgrade these systems is to chop them up into smaller systems, forgo some features in the interim and proceed to slowly replaced a piece or two every year.

      Instead what Trump has proposed is what all his predecessors proposed, which is to replace the whole thing all at once. It will fail just like all the other attempts.

    71. Re:I have my doubts by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1, Insightful

      pretty much the only thing he actually delivered was to start deporting illegal immigrants.

      And he's failing at that as well. He promised that in the first hour of him assuming power, he would deport millions of illegals.

      Did you hear anything about that happening? No? Huh. How about that. He lied about that as well.

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    72. Re:I have my doubts by Enigma2175 · · Score: 2

      That wasn't the point. The OP said nothing was being done and that Trump wasn't keeping his promises.
      That was a list of things being done and promises kept.
      Do you and I have disagreements with Trump? Yes. Probably. (I can't speak for you) But don't kid yourself. Things are getting done.

      But he hasn't kept the majority of his promises. Here is Trump's "Contract with the American Voter", things Trump promised to do in his first 100 days in office. Let's go through each of the promises and see if they were fulfilled:
      (corruption/influence)
      FIRST, propose a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress. Nope
      SECOND, a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce the federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health). Nope, tried but already removed
      THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated. Yes
      FOURTH, a five-year ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service.Partial, for executive officials only
      FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government. Yes
      SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections. Nope
      (protect american workers)
      FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205. Nope
      SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Yes
      THIRD, I will direct the Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator. Nope, not even close
      FOURTH, I will direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately. Yes
      FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal. He has done some things toward this goal so I will give him credit for this
      SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward.Yes
      SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America’s water and environmental infrastructure.Yes, to a degree. His proposed budget does reduce or eliminate some of these payments but that budget certainly isn't (yet) law and it's doubtful that the $1.6 B will "fix" America's water and environmental infrastructure.

      (security/rule of law)
      FIRST, cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama. Partial credit, he has canceled several Obama executive orders but certainly hasn't shown any to be unconstitutional. After all the bitching he did about Obama's use of executive orders Trump sure likes to use them himself
      SECOND, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution. Yes
      THIRD, cancel all federal funding to sanctuary cities. Nope
      FOURTH, begin removing the more than two million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won’t take them back. Partial, he has at least tried
      FIFTH, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered “extreme vetting.” Nope, the way he proposed it was unconstitutional

      (from the back, legislation he promised to get introduced)
      Middle Class Tax Relief and Simplification Act

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    73. Re:I have my doubts by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      It worked for Greg House. And he was also a tremendous asshole who appeared on television.

    74. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't agree with all the H1-B hate. The alternative is that those jobs are leaving altogether and not coming back. Like you said, billions saved, so if H1-Bs didn't exist than those American tech companies would go broke to international competitors due to higher cost, or the companies would simply outsource the IT to an international company.

      It's a straight up effect of globalization and capitalism. It's the American way!

      And on the PLUS side of the H1-B, it has allowed those tech companies to remain in America. There are loads of tech jobs still available for Americans but you need to have the skills (CS fundamentals, data structures and algorithms, maybe some machine learning. Or move toward technical project/people management). It's the lower end tech jobs that have been killed by H1-B.

      In the meantime, we got Trump. That is and will have a chilling effect on tech jobs. I see they are already moving to Canada/EU/Asia.....

    75. Re:I have my doubts by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      If you promise something and then fail to deliver, I'll call you a liar. Simple as that.

      Trying to do something and failing makes you a liar?

      Well then, every president from Obama to Washington is a liar. In fact, almost everyone is a liar by that definition.

    76. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good thing Jared is in charge, instead of an IT guy. I know how to save 100%...use the abacus, as it wastes no electricity! And the cost per abacus is relatively low.

      Seriously, I could imagine him saying use all Microsoft software, and don't worry about security, as Microsoft says it is the most secure software. The kickbacks and presents will just be coincidental.

    77. Re:I have my doubts by newdsfornerds · · Score: 1

      LOL

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    78. Re: I have my doubts by greythax · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My sense is that Trump quickly found himself lacking in people who would back him politically and has unfortunately begun to align himself more and more with the huckster caucus of the Republican party, those Republicans interested in enriching themselves and their corporate minions even further.

      This reminds me of an abused wife talking about her husband. "He's a good man, really, he just can't control himself."

      Long before his political career, Trump proved himself to be the very definition of the word Huckster. He made a university that taught nothing valuable. He re-branded regular steaks and blatantly called them the best ever. He can't keep his story, or position strait from day to day, or sometimes in the same breath! To be any more of a huckster he would have to be P.T. Barnum!

      I just wish that people who voted for him could come to terms with the fact that they aren't getting any, not even one, of the things he promised to get their vote. That way they could start finding a candidate for the next cycle who isn't a Simpson's character made flesh.

    79. Re:I have my doubts by clovis · · Score: 2

      fog is the new hotness, google it

      I was 99% sure you were just messing with people. Fuck. They even have a consortium.

      So you made me google fog computing. That led me to "Mist computing".

      "We are now seeing a new class of computing surface emerge called the Mist. The Mist consists of the edge, that is, the very edge: the sensor and actuator controllers. Extending computing all the way to the edge can make a lot of sense depending on the network topology needed. "

      All these seem be based on water analogies.
      What comes next will be "Urine computing", where we all get on our knees and receive a golden shower from a government-corporate consortium that will save $1 trillion dollars (over the next ten years).

    80. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I Google'd and hit a business insider article about it. That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever read. I guess some Silicon Valley marketing schmuck is rolling in dough now though.

    81. Re: I have my doubts by swb · · Score: 1

      I just wish that people who voted for him could come to terms with the fact that they aren't getting any, not even one, of the things he promised to get their vote. That way they could start finding a candidate for the next cycle who isn't a Simpson's character made flesh.

      I've been looking for that candidate since the 1990s and haven't found them yet. IMHO, Trump was the less dangerous candidate among all the Republicans. Hillary is a more competent administrator, but honestly, she wouldn't have accomplished much of anything either besides trivial changes at the margins.

    82. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the media takes what he says out of context and says he lies. He pushes it sometimes, but the media just whips up a story any time they can. So far he has kept most promises made during the campaign. Anything is better than Hillary! Sorry!

    83. Re: I have my doubts by swb · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't agree with all the H1-B hate. The alternative is that those jobs are leaving altogether and not coming back. Like you said, billions saved, so if H1-Bs didn't exist than those American tech companies would go broke to international competitors due to higher cost, or the companies would simply outsource the IT to an international company.

      Baloney. If those jobs could have been moved overseas, they would have. These workers are imported because the work itself is not mobile -- the systems, data and other personnel can't be moved to India for practical or regulatory reasons.

      Even a badly paid H1-B worker is much more expensive to employ in the US than in India. To achieve savings, they have to bring the worker here.

      This is undercutting American wages, pure and simple. And don't start on me with "if you have the skills", either. A lot of people getting dumped for H1-Bs aren't zit-faced 20-somethings clicking next, but older workers with deep skills and experience.

      Don't buy into the fantasy that YOUR job isn't oursourcable because of your unique knowledge and skills. That's the self-reinforcing myth of the long-term IT expansion -- I'm too valuable to be outsourced or replaced. No, it's just that t the demand for IT talent *in your area of expertise* just hasn't reached equilibrium yet. When it does, I'm sure you'll enjoy being lectured by someone on how you should have kept up, but you still have the chance to start your career over with "skills the market needs."

    84. Re: I have my doubts by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

      She would've accomplished at least gerrymandering reform - which could've been the start toward correcting the current gridlock in Congress.

      We may get it anyway, since gerrymandering has become so egregious that even Justice Kennedy can't deny that it's depriving people of representation. But it would've been a much safer bet without Gorsuch as a reliable anti-reform vote.

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    85. Re:I have my doubts by Shotgun · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Every administration ever. For instance, how is that "most transparent administration in history" being touted by the last one working out for you?

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    86. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, that means you're racist against liberals. Wait...

    87. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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      Could not connect to database

      I guess they need to hire a new weatherman.

    88. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We didn't have to, the republicants did all the bitching for us.

      Obamas an illegal immigrant who also happens
      to be a Muslim. He is going to declare martial law and lock up all the white Christian people and put them in FEMA trailer camps. He will then declare himself to be the leader of this new free world indefinitely. Then the one true religion of Islam can be declared. The US will then be purged.[1]

      1. I was actually told this by many right wing conservatives. So many times in fact, that I just stated ignoring their emails and texts. I was even linked to articles stating the same exact bullshit.

      So fuck off, for 8 years we heard all your endless
      Bullshit about how Obama was bad. Now it's your turn to listen to our bullshit. Deal with it. That's the cost of winning.

    89. Re:I have my doubts by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      clueless PHB would say after watching a vendor's webinar on how their new fog technology is going to save 90% over cloud services...fog is the new hotness, google it

      Cloud and Fog are so 2016. Fire-and-Brimstone IT is where it's at (FBIT). I highly recommend the Satan Stack. The head even comes with Power Points.

    90. Re:I have my doubts by ripj · · Score: 1
      Well I respectfully disagree with most of the things you said.

      Hiring free market, limited government judges.

      But only 2 judges have been confirmed, and 15 more have been nominated even though there are 132 federal judicial vacancies.

      Relaxing burdensome regulations - coal mine opening (and no the coal is not used for heating or electricity but for the production of steel)

      But a lot of those regulations were issued in late December, so he's just revoking regulations that weren't in place very long anyway.

      Pushing for (instead of against) the Keystone Pipeline

      Sure, I'll grant you that.

      Pushing for (instead of against) fracking

      Pushing for (instead of against) off-shore drilling

      I'm not sure there's actually much of a difference from Obama's policies. For instance, environmental groups were upset that the Obama administration approved 1500 offshore drilling and fracking applications from 2010 to October 2014 and oil production boomed under Obama.

      Getting out of the TPP

      That's different than what Obama pushed for, but Bernie Sanders, and eventually Hillary Clinton, both came out against the TPP. I'll grant you that it is a change in policy from the previous administration, though.

      Getting out of the Paris Treaty

      Yes, I agree that he did do that.

      And, as you mentioned, increased funding and activity on illegal immigration.

      But even that's a mixed bag. ICE arrests were up, but deportations were down during the first 100 days of Trump's presidency compared to the previous year.

      But back to the subject of the article. The closure of federal data centers started before the Trump administration, and it seems as though he's now trying to take credit for it.

      Not to mention that he's gotten no major legislation through. So I really do believe he's not very effective.

    91. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where did the OP suggest he/she was a liberal leftist? Or that he/she didn't care about Obama's lies?

      Perhaps you should take some time and look up the following term: strawman.

    92. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes it is absolutely undercutting American wages. That is the point. To the tune of billions. America is a highly capitalist, not socialist society as it has demonstrated over and over again, so you should grow to accept and love the freedom baby. the American government will act in the best interest of the corporations, not necessarily the citizens. It acts in the interest of "capital", not "society" and always has.

      I don't buy into any fantasy about getting outsourced. I try very hard to keep ontop and keep the skills relevant, and MOVE when the work does. I moved to the US for work, I had to because the work dried up in my home country. And I can tell you my next move will be the EU if work dries up here.

      My point is if you restrict the H1-B, you will loose all-together many of the tech companies. That "can't move" thing is really "it's too expensive to move", and restricting the flow of cheaper workers will result in costs so high that companies will do whatever it is required to move that part of the operations. Up to and including buying politicians for law changes in regulation. The republicans party are in power now and are very open to that sort of thing. The data doesn't even HAVE to move, it's data. It can stay onshore. The workers and offices won't, they can go to India/China/Singapore. Anyway, only very few industries have the sort of regulations that requires stuff to be kept on-shore.

      Now if the US had balls like the EU in relation to ensuring the companies were forced to do what is right to society (a touch of socialism), then it would be different. But it is a capitalist society, so get used to being a non-player. Capital (money) is the player. If you would like to see that change in the USA, you know what to do next time there is a vote!

    93. Re:I have my doubts by erapert · · Score: 1

      The issue is not that nothing is happening, it's that he is simply tearing up a lot of stuff without any real plan to replace it or understanding of why it is there in the first place.

      There's no need to replace it if you don't believe that the problem it was meant to solve was a problem in the first place.

      Just saying.

    94. Re: I have my doubts by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      Probably moisture got into the electrical contacts. They'll upgrade to "dry fog" and things will clear right up, you'll see.

    95. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm certainly not. I'm more surprised working technology professionals also bought into the con man's words.

      No one else was walking about immigration or H1B abuse.

      Even if a project fails, it's still right to support it.

      A 1% chance of success is better than 0%.

    96. Re:I have my doubts by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      What comes next will be "Urine computing", where we all get on our knees and receive a golden shower from a government-corporate consortium that will save $1 trillion dollars (over the next ten years).

      Already answered, starting at 1:50

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_Gf0mGJfP8

    97. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Show me proof that free market judges and their rulings result in measurably more pollution.
      2. Vets do not have a right to get free stuff (unless it was part of the deal they made when they signed up, i.e. pension and medical care)
      3. Off-shore drilling is one of the reasons we're awash in oil in the first place (pun not intended)
      4. We don't need the feds involved in curtailing fracking. Why not let the people who're actually affected by local fracking pass their own laws? Stop trying to force other people to run their lives the way that you want.
      5. The point is that we're no longer doing the Paris thing-- voluntary or not.
      6. So you know how getting out of the TPP thing is going to turn out, eh? You can see the future?

    98. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How's that repeal and replace working out for you? More like repeal and debase the base...

    99. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But her email server was in benghazi.

    100. Re:I have my doubts by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1
      There you go again ...

      Regardless, Trump is all sizzle and no steak.

      https://www.sharperimage.com/si/view/product/Trump+Steaks/888888

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Steaks

    101. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The issue is not that nothing is happening, it's that I don't understand why he is simply tearing up a lot of stuff. FIFY

    102. Re: I have my doubts by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Is anyone surprised by the move to back off fixing H-1B abuse? I'm certainly not. I'm more surprised working technology professionals also bought into the con man's words.

      "Not I" said Jack.

      In fact in almost every thread on "Ermergerd, Jeesus Trump is ending H1-Bzzz !1!!!1!!11!ELEVEN!!!" I said it would never happen. I said that rich and powerful tech companies would keep it from happening and I don't mean the likes of Apple and Microsoft, think more conservative... like IBM, HP, NEC, and all the other companies that run most of their services out of India and only need to keep remote hands in the markets the rip off... erm I mean serve.

      I said that they'd be picking up the phone to congress and saying "you know that nice campaign contribution you're counting on... a shame if we had to offshore it". I'm willing to bet that's just what they did. They probably cornered Trump in the men's room at the golf resort.

      So I'm collecting my 198th consecutive "I was right award" on this one. Same as that wall that'll never be built (you might get a half-arsed, chicken wire fence... and Mexico isn't gonna pay for it) or all those Jerbs he was going to bring back or the taxes he was going to decrease.

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    103. Re:I have my doubts by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Doubts that it's going to save $1 trillion.

      The goal in all these things is that the concept is to spend money now in order to save money later.

      The reality in all these things is that the "spend money now" part happens, but the "save money later" part never seems to materialize.

      Yep, because government contracts are license to bill.

      A govt contract is never fixed price, partially because the procurement process requires them to take the lowest bidder and the time and materials contracts never come in under estimate (deliberately designed to because governments will not abandon a project and keep throwing good money after bad). The problem that governments have is that they need to fulfil a mandate, and I honestly believe that the majority of senior public servants want to do this but government requirements force them into bad choices. If a project manager chooses a more expensive option, they need to go to Mordor and back to justify it, but because they've got a mandate to fulfil they cant let go of a project.

      Vendors of course, abuse this to the hilt and then some. Deliberately under-quoting jobs and over-quoiting expertise are rife. IBM and the Queensland Public Health payroll system (Australia) is just the latest in a long list of examples. QPH ended up with a terrible system, IBM made out like bandits.

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    104. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More importantly, the arrest of sexual predators and pedophiles has soared under Trump. Leftists and their masters, of course, are God-rejecting satanists who rape kids.

    105. Re:I have my doubts by dywolf · · Score: 1

      also every president recently has floated the same idea, and it never actually gets done.

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    106. Re:I have my doubts by dywolf · · Score: 1

      for reference, the entire size of hte US economy is only 18.6 trillion.

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    107. Re: I have my doubts by dywolf · · Score: 1

      most progress come from small slow steady changes at the margins.
      the big changes are few and far between.
      for every Loving case there's a dozen adminstrators interpreting a rule slightly differently.

      that said...hillary would gotten to nominate Scalia's replacement, and that would have been one of those big changes with a lasting impact.

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    108. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hiring free market, limited government judges.

      Useless since there have been vacancies that could have been filled up to 6 years ago. You can blame McConnell for that. And you're likely to get more stooges like Moore, Scalia, Alito, or Thomas, not an improvement at all. Why not just stick with Taney?

      Relaxing burdensome regulations - coal mine opening (and no the coal is not used for heating or electricity but for the production of steel)

      No, that coal mine was actually in the works before Trump took office, as the Acosta Deep Mine began before he was even nominated.

      Interesting that you mention his BIG PUBLIC event though.

      Pushing for (instead of against) the Keystone Pipeline

      You mean the one that the judge just ruled that it didn't get enough vetting in its environmental check?

      Pushing for (instead of against) fracking

      Fracking has been growing since Obama took office.

      Pushing for (instead of against) off-shore drilling

      Off-shore drilling has been growing since Obama took office.

      Getting out of the TPP

      Getting nothing from any negotiations.

      Getting out of the Paris Treaty

      Getting nothing from any negotiations. Net result? EVEN MORE OPPROBRIUM.

      Hey, remember when Trump claimed he went to the ocean and ordered the Tides back, and they went? That's the sort of achievement you're touting.

      Like his useless proclamations towards North Korea, his pointless bombardment of Syria, his entirely ineffectual Trumpcare, it's all been useless.

      You may agree, or disagree with what's being done. I certainly have my problems with Trump and the Republicans. But you need to stop lying to yourself and others that nothing is being done and that goals are not being accomplished.

      You need to stop lying to yourself, and others, and believing Trump's lies that much, if anything is being done, and that goals are even worth being accomplished, let alone actually doing so.

      Open your eyes, and realize it's a shell game at best. You've been had, and you're clamoring for being screwed some more.

      And, as you mentioned, increased funding and activity on illegal immigration.

      Increased wastefulness and failure, including a monumentally broken illegal order that he threw a tantrum over. Really, the number of people being deported over petty and pointless vindictiveness is growing, while the actual level of accomplishment is what? More money being poured into the failed BPS, into private detentions, and incompetent courts?

      His National Security adviser was fired for lying. His Press Secretary flops around like a flounder. His Attorney General lied his ass off over firing the FBI director in a way that just added more questions.

      Face it, if he resigned now, it'd STILL be the worst Presidency since Buchanan. And Buchanan practically started a CIVIL WAR.

      Frankly, I don't know whether he's too stupid to listed to any good advice, or whether or not he's getting any, but either way, it's fucked up.

    109. Re:I have my doubts by dywolf · · Score: 1

      nice try telling us what we think, but in reality actually liberals do care about obama's failed promises.

      lets note though that things like closing Gitmo he couldnt actually unilaterally do, and in fact congress blocked several of the potential pathways to do so.
      which means it isnt so much that he lied, but was prevented by the GOP congress.

      others were horse traded in the name of concessions for other accomplishments, disappointing, but a reality of politicking. but that doesnt mean we didnt care or are creating a double standard.

      also, it should be noted that NONE OF THIS applies to trump (again: thus no double standard).

      he said, verbatim, "I will be too busy to Golf".
      he has now golfed more than any of hte previous 3 presidents at this point in their terms.

      he said quote "i will drain the swamp", refering to lobbyists and corporate regulatory capture.
      quite obviously, he only made the swamp deeper ("obama did it too" .... to an extent...but the point is he didnt promise to do the exact opposite).

      That's what makes them lies.

      no, the only double standards here, and there's a few, all come from you and your ilk.
      chief among them being that you refuse to live in reality.

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    110. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...hillary would gotten to nominate Scalia's replacement...

      This would have a been a big change because SCOTUS has not had a Democratic majority since 1969. I suspect we will see the court with at least six Republican justices by the end of Trump's current term and maybe seven if the country is crazy enough to re-elect him or another Republican.

    111. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Republicans got the single thing he promised and they care about - Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch

    112. Re:I have my doubts by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      He was being honest there. You know the old saying "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining." Well, he warned them ahead of time that "it's not rain - I'm pissing on your legs".

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/there-is-a-second-sacred-wall-at-the-cia-trump-disrespects-that-one-every-day/2017/01/29/d1961480-e675-11e6-bf6f-301b6b443624_story.html

    113. Re:I have my doubts by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Where did I say the OP was a leftist? I was discussing the post ABOVE the one I responded to and pointing out what the original poster was showing.

      But if you don't want to be called a leftist, I can understand..

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    114. Re:I have my doubts by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Oh boy.. So a lie is a lie to you? Fine..

      BTW, going after Trump for playing golf is pretty sad... Most people didn't care about Obama's recreational outings, nor do they care about Trumps. And I'll let you in on a little secret, Trump was really dissing Obama for doing nothing BUT playing golf if you listen to the whole thing and not just the sound bite and pull quote. He was saying Obama didn't do anything, wasn't interested in working... Which I think is true.

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    115. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I couldn't get past "I'm going to bring back a thick stream of jobs." People wanted to know what was wrong with me.

    116. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fog is the new hotness, google it

      I was 99% sure you were just messing with people. Fuck. They even have a consortium.

      So you made me google fog computing. That led me to "Mist computing".

      "We are now seeing a new class of computing surface emerge called the Mist. The Mist consists of the edge, that is, the very edge: the sensor and actuator controllers. Extending computing all the way to the edge can make a lot of sense depending on the network topology needed. "

      Coming up next: "Vapour computing", which is exactly what is sounds like.

    117. Re:I have my doubts by houghi · · Score: 1

      Double standards seems to me something American, not something exclusive to the liberal leftists.
      But hey, at least the Orange one didn't get a blowjob. (Now I think about it, that could solve a lot, I think.)

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    118. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      irony isn't your strong suit, is it

    119. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so you're a sarcasmist?

    120. Re:I have my doubts by bobbied · · Score: 1

      I can assure you that "double standards" are not uniquely American, nor uniquely political.

      I'm pretty sure the American political system, though unique in it's current form, descended from a rich tradition of such activity in England and Europe, which itself descended from points east and south. The Americans may have perfected parts of it, but the "double standard" is alive and well outside our borders. We may have cornered the market on some things in our 241 years, but certainly not that.

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    121. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I just wish that people who voted for him could come to terms with the fact that they aren't getting any, not even one, of the things he promised to get their vote.

      No, they're getting it. Every Obama did, undone. And that seems like the pact they made with him. "We don't give a shit about all this other stuff you did or do. Just roll back everything the scary (((Black))) man did."

    122. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > No, the poster was pointing out that the liberal leftists are displaying a double standard

      Here's the problem with your cuntiness. You're both, cunts. You're both, displaying a double-standard. And you're both pointing to the other one, complaining about they're thieving and not calling it thieving.

      Fuck, both of you, thieving, dirty, double-standard, assholes.

    123. Re:I have my doubts by barrygrommit · · Score: 1

      Holy cow...OpenFog Consortium...someone is really kidding here, but their website is pretty cool: https://www.openfogconsortium....

    124. Re:I have my doubts by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      To be honest, something like this does have the potential to save large amounts of money, possibly $100G/year. It would be risky under the best of conditions, considering the size and complexity of the systems, and I have less than absolutely zero faith that Trump can pull it off.

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    125. Re:I have my doubts by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but this is the usual political speech where you count savings over ten years to make them sound more impressive. Doing a reform of US government computer systems absolutely correctly might save a hundred billion a year, for all I know.

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    126. Re:I have my doubts by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I've heard about stepped-up deportation of illegal immigrants. That Obama guy put a lot of resources into it.

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    127. Re:I have my doubts by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Gitmo wasn't under Obama's direct control. He tried to close it and was stopped by Congress.

      How much warrantless wiretapping did go on under Obama? What the NSA was doing wasn't exactly wiretapping, and there was the FISA court for warrants. I don't like what Obama did about surveillance, but it isn't clear to me that he lied.

      If you liked your insurance plan, and the insurance company continued to offer it, you could in general keep it. Whether insurance plans were going to continue to be offered was not under Obama's direct control, and neither was the doctor thing. He shouldn't have said it, but it wasn't lying about things under his direct control.

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    128. Re:I have my doubts by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      There are stupid rednecks in the US. Any argument with that?

      GP said nothing about whites in general being stupid rednecks. GP said that Trump's electoral base is stupid rednecks, but maligning a political group isn't racism.

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    129. Re:I have my doubts by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      Saying "Stupid Rednecks" refer to a particular race in a particular geographical location just as saying "Stupid Ghetto Kids" refers to a particular race in a particular geographical location.

      If saying "Stupid Ghetto" is racist then so is saying "Stupid Redneck"

      If one person says Trumps supporters are "Stupid Rednecks" then it's equal to saying Obama's supporters were "Stupid Ghetto ..."

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      Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
    130. Re:I have my doubts by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      To me it's terrifying. He's liable to do it. No doubt, some stuff is ancient, though I think the 39 year old network is not true. It's true some agencies have had networks that long ago, and longer actually. However 40 years ago we're in 1978. I can't imagine some agency still has that old crap around, or that it would even work. I remember Agriculture held onto their old X.25 crap until they couldn't get parts for the routers. I think that was about two decades ago.

      We go through this every so often. Put other agencies in a datacenter. Then the crap begins. Physical barriers and such. Lots of paperwork. By the time it's done, we could be a decade or more after Trump. HSPD-12 was a George Bush mandate for example and we're just getting around to doing that at most agencies. That's been more than a decade and that's simple side of this. In fact I don't think any civilian agency requires the use of the HSPD-12 for regular user access. Most don't require it for admin access.

      Also big push to go out into the cloud in the Federal space. Military I think was told to do it by the last guy. So far it's been a big boondoggle. They haven't realized that cloud just means someone else's computer. They also pay a lot more for it than if they ran it.

    131. Re:I have my doubts by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      Doubts that it's going to save $1 trillion. Trump lies constantly and he won't stick to anything he says, so this could even be true in that he'll actually try but as soon as the plan hits any minor bumps he'll give up on it, move on to something else, and blame the Democrats for it. Right now the only "promise" he seems inclined to keep is to try to deport just about every illegal immigrant DHS can get its hands on.

      In foreign affairs, Trump has a word. He is known as a good listener and someone who is able to change his ideas based on reason.
      Domestically, it's possible that Trump is over-his-head and has too much information thrown at him. He needs to delegate responsibilities and just do a summary follow up. And stop Tweeting

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    132. Re:I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have hope, that Pacific countries will band together in spite of the United States. Philippines is probematic, though.

      But it's not like that agreement doesn't have a fair hare of its own terrible clauses. So I'm hoping, that Pacific countries will renegotiate the TPP on their own, amend it, and then form the agreement together and without the U.S. America can join, but then without a lot of the leeway it had before.

    133. Re:I have my doubts by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Except that saying Trump supporters are stupid rednecks is more accurate than saying Obama supporters were stupid ghetto kids, it's approximately the same thing. How many people have been saying "stupid ghetto kids" is racist when used to describe young people in the ghetto who do stupid things? I've seen phrases including "ghetto" used when the speaker meant "black", so it can be used in a racist manner, and that may confuse the superficial observer.

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    134. Re:I have my doubts by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I thought you were being jocular and then discovered (while doing something unrelated) that it's an actual thing.

      Literally vapourware.

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    135. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the time you "save money later," you're using "legacy" technology which must be replaced by spending money now.

      The real cycle is "spend money now" and "spend money later."

    136. Re: I have my doubts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Obama didn't do anything, why do the Republicans feel the need to rally around "undoing what Obama did?"

  3. Good news/Bad news by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 5, Funny

    The good news is it will save $1 trillion over 10 years. The bad news is that it will cost $1 trillion over 2 years.

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    1. Re:Good news/Bad news by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 1

      Well the real annoying things about these "over 8 years, over 10 years" kind of things is that most of the savings take place AFTER the politician is out of office. The austerity and problems they cause are someone else's and the other party can sit back and be surprised at how this problem happened.

      You never get "saves $200 billion in one year". It also doesn't let them freeze the budget and pretend predicted inflation is new savings.

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    2. Re:Good news/Bad news by colonel+spalding · · Score: 1

      For real. It's no doubt necessary. While the government was once state of the art, when other countries were figuratively computing wise in the stoneage. However other countries have now caught up and bypassed us so we don't have much choice than a multi trillion dollar uprade. It will make us more efficient but just the implementation will cost a small fortune. Instead of lying about it why not conince the American people it is necessary. Oh that's right, not enough money with the .1 percent getting massive tax breaks.

  4. save a trillion over 10 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    seems more like what it'll cost and how long it will take to me.

  5. Um, I think you got that backwards by aoeusnth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, if you got REALLY lucky, you might save money in the long term.

    The history of government technology overhauls should indicate quite vividly that you not only spend tear-jerking amounts of money to upgrade your systems, you also spend a lot of time thereafter fixing it or throwing it all away and starting over again.

    So I can't decide whether Mr. "The Cybers" man doesn't understand anything about technology, or he understands it so well that he is willing to lie to the American taxpayer about savings when what he actually means is to pump money into the (already wildly successful) technology sector. Either way, I wonder what his blue-collar supporters think about that ....

    1. Re:Um, I think you got that backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder what his blue-collar supporters think about that ....

      IT, TRUMP DAT BITCH, MAKE MURICA GR8

    2. Re:Um, I think you got that backwards by HornWumpus · · Score: 3, Informative

      Government tech contractors and the tech sector aren't very closely related.

      Government contractors know how to game the procurement system. They are customers of the tech sector, not part of it.

      There is not a single money saving technology that these leaches can't turn into a money pit. The problem is the procurement system.

      The same contractors that game H1B, game the procurement system, weaseling is their 'core competency'. Getting the out of the business and getting competent groups working for the government is an 'impossible dream'.

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    3. Re:Um, I think you got that backwards by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Either way, I wonder what his blue-collar supporters think about that ....

      At this point, I think they will support him even if he started bulldozing entire towns of his supporters while claiming it was fake news.

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    4. Re:Um, I think you got that backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The history of government technology overhauls should indicate quite vividly that you not only spend tear-jerking amounts of money to upgrade your systems, you also spend a lot of time thereafter fixing it or throwing it all away and starting over again.

      TCO over multiple system upgrades or architectures is not considered often enough. Tragedy of commons happens within the government organizations when ambitious people struggle for local "wins" and promotions over the few years they spend in the public sector.

    5. Re:Um, I think you got that backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His blue collar followers think these cost savings mean austerity for the tech sector, and the are pleased at the notion of job and benefit cuts for "government workers", hipster geeks and other people who they don't consider "real" or "hardworking" Americans.

    6. Re:Um, I think you got that backwards by Verdatum · · Score: 4, Informative

      FWIW, one of the first government tech investments ended up going waaay over-budget, but also ended up saving insurmountable amounts of labor costs; it saved massive amounts of money in the long-run, and ended up setting us up as the early leader in the realm of computing. So, thanks 1890 US Census Bureau.

    7. Re:Um, I think you got that backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh great, so now shareblue/ mediamatters are targeting this site. Stop astroturfing.

      Smart IT had it nice here, go back to politcal bashing on reddit.

    8. Re:Um, I think you got that backwards by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but that's back when shit got done, like building railroads through mountain ranges in a year. You couldn't do the same thing today.

  6. 6 Months later ... by b3x · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Who knew IT was so complicated??!"

    1. Re:6 Months later ... by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How could it be, all IT is is college boys sipping coffee and typing some cryptic mumbo-jumbo on their key...mouse...somethingorcyber.

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    2. Re:6 Months later ... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      The creamiest statement will come when after "negotiating" with NASA over his pet projects, he will state, "Who knew rocket science was so complicated?"

      He's already said such about the general presidency, healthcare, getting GOP to fund stuff, and one or two others I don't remember right now.

      As far as consolidating similar IT services, I heard the same from the Obama administration. It's something that's free and easy to talk about, but the devil is always in the messy details.

  7. Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why is this such a hard concept?

    The USA has no obligation to people who do not live within her jurisdiction or who aren't citizens. There is sufficient talent inside her borders to do whatever we wish to do. It is a travesty that people are so short-sighted they would allow a functional invasion of foreigners.

    1. Re:Citizens first by Highdude702 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You're not allowed to say that here. It's racist and anti-American to say "we need to put the American citizens before all others" why, I don't understand but I know I've been mod slammed in the past for saying it.

    2. Re: Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Working with the top of our 300m big pyramid or with the top of the world's 7b big pyramid...I wonder which is going to get us a higher quality set of choices for innovative employees?

      The question is whether you want to prioritize using what we've got currently...or winning. (That top of the world pyramid is going to work somewhere, by the way...so they're either helping our team or the other team.)

    3. Re: Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which was the whole point of our immigration system. Sucking in talent worldwide.

      Not sucking in ditch diggers, barely competent windows admins, and rapists (see what I did there ?)

    4. Re: Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They allow whatever their media tells them to. The media is owned by the 1%. The 1%'s best interests are self serving, not to serve and make America better. When these two interests intertwine, it sometimes ends well for the citizen but when they collide, they will get theirs no matter what it does to the American citizen. Keep buying your propaganda, keep serving, keep buying useless crap that spies on you, keep fighting under your partisan flag citizen, your 1% overlords depend on you.

    5. Re:Citizens first by Tom · · Score: 2

      If yu think you're not allowed that in the USA - trying saying that in Germany.

      Actually, don't.
      No, seriousy. Don't.

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    6. Re: Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If a country can't keep it together without the West propping it up, I don't want any of those people in my neighborhood.

    7. Re:Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The USA has no obligation to people who do not live within her jurisdiction or who aren't citizens. There is sufficient talent inside her borders to do whatever we wish to do. It is a travesty that people are so short-sighted they would allow a functional invasion of foreigners.

      As true as that is, such America-first tends to be xenophobic to such a degree that it hurts America (as you illustrate by the phrase "functional invasion").

      The economy is not a zero sum game. If we need workers, and we don't get those workers, then our economy is operating less efficiently and will be eclipsed by economies that make better choices. In addition, if we are xenophobic to a degree that it's hard to get good and great people, then we'll stop benefiting from other countries' brain drain and start experiencing our own, as our top people leave the US to find lucrative careers elsewhere.

    8. Re: Citizens first by Grishnakh · · Score: 0

      Not sucking in ditch diggers, barely competent windows admins, and rapists (see what I did there ?)

      Your words "barely competent" are superfluous and redundant here.

    9. Re:Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this such a hard concept?

      Because denying citizenship has been used to cause a great deal of harm. See Dredd Scott. See Cherokee Nation v. Georgia. See the experiences of the residents of DC.

      The USA has no obligation to people who do not live within her jurisdiction or who aren't citizens.

      A morally unsound absurdity that should be obvious in its hyperbole. You just said that the USA has no obligation to anybody through treaties it has signed and ratified, that the USA could screw anybody anywhere, as long as they're not citizens.

      There is sufficient talent inside her borders to do whatever we wish to do. It is a travesty that people are so short-sighted they would allow a functional invasion of foreigners.

      Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
      With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
      Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
      A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
      Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
      MOTHER OF EXILES. From her beacon-hand
      Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
      The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

      "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
      With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
      Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
      The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
      Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
      I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

      Funny, that your idea is contradicted by past argument. Tell us, why do you want to embrace the isolationist nativism of the Know-Nothing Party? Do you not comprehend their repugnance, or do you think yours is somehow better?

    10. Re:Citizens first by Opportunist · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You are aware that your economy is propped up by a sea of migrant workers, yes?

      You think you could buy shirts for 5 bucks and apples for a few cents if AMERICANS made and picked them?

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    11. Re:Citizens first by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      And it's amazing how many think foreign trade is some kind of gift that the US is giving to the world. I've called a few out on it but it gets tedious after a while.

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    12. Re:Citizens first by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Gift? Yes, in the German sense.

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    13. Re:Citizens first by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      That's horrifying. Is that not the #1 job of any nation. To look after and protect not only the health but the value of life for their citizens? That my number one gripe with the "social justice" type and the government its self. They worry more about people that need help on the other side of the planet than in their own back yard. Pathetic.

    14. Re:Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The rest of the world should say that when American companies come knocking to sell their shit ..

    15. Re:Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please tell us all how you propose to fund this charity.

      We will all wait.

    16. Re: Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which was the whole point of our immigration system. Sucking in talent worldwide.

      Not sucking in ditch diggers, barely competent windows admins..

      They work a lot cheaper than citizens, so it's good for the Free Market, so it must be Good. USA! USA!

    17. Re:Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >implying that poem is case law

    18. Re:Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's horrifying. Is that not the #1 job of any nation. To look after and protect not only the health but the value of life for their white, christian citizens? That my number one gripe with the "social justice" type and the government its self. They worry more about people that need help on the other side of the planet than in their own back yard. Pathetic.

      FTFTV (fixed that for Trump voters).

    19. Re: Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the Trojan sense. ;)

    20. Re:Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's a foundational principle of this country that we are a nation of immigrants. It's an ideal, not a law. And you are a racist fuckwit. There are rather a lot of those in this country. We've had a civil war over racist fuckwittery before, and your side lost. Do you want to double down on stupid?

    21. Re:Citizens first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >implying American wasn't built on the backs of western Europeans

      Slavery mattered so little to the economics of the United States, it is completely irrelevant. Also, everyone who was a slave (de jure) or a functional slave (indentured servitude so de facto) was awarded the greatest gift of all: citizenship in a first world nation. It is the gift which keeps on giving to all their descendants. You can determine whether citizenship plus the trillions in the black hole known as social programs were worth it.

      >wanting to protect shared American culture is racist

      Protip: all the people you want to let in to run amok do not share your values. This is why unfettered immigration is not a Good Thing (TM). Think about why certain countries are shit holes while others are extremely desirable. You will virtue signal your own demise if you keep this up.

    22. Re: Citizens first by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      ("Gift" is the German word for "poison")

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    23. Re:Citizens first by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      If yu think you're not allowed that in the USA - trying saying that in Germany.

      Actually, don't.
      No, seriousy. Don't.

      Exactly you shouldn't. Because if you did you'd find it wasn't illegal and make some slashdot posters look silly.

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    24. Re: Citizens first by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      Not true, there are some highly competent Windows admins out there. There are also some people highly competent at banging their head against a wall. Here's a Venn diagram of these two groups:

      O

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    25. Re:Citizens first by Tom · · Score: 1

      Nobody said anything about illegal. But if you say "Germans first" in Germany, you're immediately labeled a Nazi and people will start avoiding you just to not be associated with that.

      Nobody said anything about illegal. Try making a point without inventing it wholesale.

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    26. Re:Citizens first by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      You sir are the problem.

  8. The human factor by jeffc128ca · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have no doubt that you could save hundreds of billions, possibly trillions over the years if smart agreeable people get together and figure it out. The problem is at some point you need to include others and then the trouble starts. Any organization over with more than 100 people run into this. The more people and departments the worse it gets. I am older now and I have seen smart ideas pass from their creators to the masses of underlings and watch it get mangled beyond belief. Your trillion dollar savings will be eaten up by those underlings a hundred fold.

    1. Re:The human factor by ranton · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In my only 15 years in the industry, what has usually determined success is whether the project sponsors have given authority to the project leads who are competent enough to make decisions that affect multiple departments, or to individual VPs/Directors/Managers in charge of each department. When high ranking management are treated as subject matter experts, but with minimal control over the project, things tend to go well. When high ranking management consistently gets their way and win repeated disagreements with project leads, things spiral out of control real quick.

      Competency outside of a very narrow domain is very rare in this world, and I've never seen a company capable of filling its entire management team with people who not only know their domain well but also can think critically and outside of the box during times of transformation. If average managers (no matter how far up the org chart) get too much control over transformational projects you almost always get a mess.

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    2. Re:The human factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the project leads who are competent enough to make decisions that affect multiple departments

      good fucking luck with that

      what planet do you get your project leads from? certainly not this one

    3. Re:The human factor by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have no doubt that you could save hundreds of billions, possibly trillions over the years if smart agreeable people get together and figure it out. The problem is at some point you need to include others and then the trouble starts. Any organization over with more than 100 people run into this. The more people and departments the worse it gets. I am older now and I have seen smart ideas pass from their creators to the masses of underlings and watch it get mangled beyond belief. Your trillion dollar savings will be eaten up by those underlings a hundred fold.

      You hit one one of the main reasons such projects fail; the tech folks fail to understand the people part. They think the Federal government is one monolithic, top down controlled organization who will do whatever the boss says; when in reality it's like pre-WWI (and earlier) Europe, a loose confederation of largely independent individual fiefdoms who will guard their turf vigorously. They have years of experience at killing things so that you only find out they're dead when the body is discovered years later in some roadside ditch, meanwhile you had been getting cards and letters from the dead person telling you how great things are going. Information is power and the bureaucracy will go to great lengths to protect their information from others; and will make common cause to do so when it is in their own best interests. They are the institution, and know they will be around when the "great idea" person is long gone and will play the long game. They will take your money but it is wise to remember Truman's advice to Eisenhower as the latter assumed the presidency and remember that when people in this town (DC) say "Yes Sir" they often are really saying "Screw You."

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    4. Re:The human factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Diplomacy is about surviving until the next century; politics is about surviving until Friday."

    5. Re:The human factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone in government, I don't think they are guarding their turf so much as money is simply too controlled, and it forces different agencies and departments to fight against each other, and keep themselves from working together because their money is separate no matter if they work together or separate. You end up with Bob that has $100 to make project X, and Alice that has $100 to make project Y. Both of them are told they can't go over $100 or behind schedule. If they work together Bob needs to pay Alice, and Alice becomes in control of Bobs project, or vice versa. When Alice goes over budget or behind schedule, she blames Bob for not giving his fair share of the money. And in practice, it's even worse, because you end up with things like Bob is trying to buy a touchscreen TV, and Alice is trying to buy a projector. They try to work together, since they are both buying screens, and could save money by working together, they add up their requirements and arrive at a 50 foot touch screen TV and sit around wondering how the hell they are going to afford that. So Alice says she was planning on $5k for a projector, and the touch screen requirement bring it over a million, so Bob owes Alice $1mil but Bobs budget was $5k for a TV.

      I can guarantee that anything trying to consolidate datacenters is going to end up like that. DoD says they want all servers outfitted with encryption, every line of code in the datacenter reviewed and everything firewalled. The EPA tries to make a blog using some common software and the datacenter requirements end up telling them they need a million dollar license from some DoD contractor. SEC says they need gigabit Ethernet located in Manhattan to get appropriate speeds to the exchanges, DoD says they need a direct run fiber line from the pentagon. Working together just drives up the prices of everyone because the government tries to get a system that meets everyone's requirements when it may not be really needed.

    6. Re:The human factor by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Part of the problem with "you must always do X" edicts is that there are always exceptions to the rule. One size does NOT fit all. The trick is weeding out the legitimate exceptions from fake or exaggerated ones that are designed to stall.

      Making the real-vs-fake-exception determination well often requires research and domain expertise. Somebody sitting in a central office probably cannot make that determination.

      For example, one office might say, "Our staff know X but not Y, the new recommended approach. And we don't have the budget for sufficient training and/or hiring for Y." Republicans like gov't to have slim budgets, so there probably is indeed limited funds for training in general. To know what's going on for a specific site you'd have to pay a visit and interview the employees about their knowledge and training, perhaps taking a specialist along with you.

    7. Re:The human factor by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      For example, one office might say, "Our staff know X but not Y, the new recommended approach. And we don't have the budget for sufficient training and/or hiring for Y." Republicans like gov't to have slim budgets, so there probably is indeed limited funds for training in general. To know what's going on for a specific site you'd have to pay a visit and interview the employees about their knowledge and training, perhaps taking a specialist along with you.

      Trading always get cut, the argument often being the staff already knows how tomdo X and this is just a different way to do it. I once had someone tell me it should only take a couple of hours go train staff because this was just the same system with different screens and workflows. Sure, and a car with the steering wheel on the right is the same just with the driver in a different seat. Years ago I worked for a company that for 500 k or so would do the process work, verify it still meet their business rules and draft a requirements document. Companies balked at doing that, even though we'd credit the payment if they hired us to do the 30 million implementation. No wonder so many implementations failed.

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  9. Like TrumpOrg's systems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I seriously doubt someone who's own business organization was found last fall to be running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange 2007 has any bloody clue how to manage such a task.

    1. Re:Like TrumpOrg's systems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was it hacked by the Russians, too?

  10. He spoke? by MMC+Monster · · Score: 2

    According to Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law and advisor [...]

    Considering all the projects he's responsible for, what plans has he come up with?

    I'm curious, as he's responsible for so much and yet I've heard so little that was actually attributed to him.

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    1. Re:He spoke? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      I don't know, but one thing I know for certain: He will not be held responsible for anything.

      So at least say that he's allowed to dabble in a lot of projects and nobody will be able to tack it to him when (not if) he FUBARs them. It's way closer to reality.

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  11. What's old is new by avandesande · · Score: 2

    Was contracting for the government and heard the same thing under Obama administration.

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  12. Why do ppl think old tech os bad tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If a 50 year old software tool still completes the task for which it was designed in a satisfactory way, why change it? My 50 year old house provides adiquate shelter and living space so I'm not going to knock it down and rebuild.

    Why does it have to always be new and Whiney every 5 years?

    1. Re:Why do ppl think old tech os bad tech? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Young people entering the marketplace and want the newest shiny things.

      Older people have enough experience to actually understand the meaning of "if it works, don't fuck with it".

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    2. Re: Why do ppl think old tech os bad tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Replacement parts availability

    3. Re:Why do ppl think old tech os bad tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      legacy (adj) - A pejorative term used in the computer industry meaning "it works."

      http://www.langston.com/Fun_People/2000/2000AHG.html

    4. Re:Why do ppl think old tech os bad tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the 10 oldest networks in use by the government are all at least 39 years old.

      Any network that has been continuously running since 1978 should be enshrined in a museum.

    5. Re: Why do ppl think old tech os bad tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Eh, if it works *well* don't change it. If there are alterations that could considerably help, then it's sometimes worth changing. I'm more of a fan of the phrase:

      "Don't change something purely for the of change." That eleminates waste on new shiny things but leaves way for healthy growth/change.

    6. Re: Why do ppl think old tech os bad tech? by ZNetracer · · Score: 2

      Lack of parts, lack of security updates and patches. Inherently less secure and a big fat hacking target. Lack of capacity to keep up with modern demand, etc. All tech has an end of life. It may still function perfectly fine for what it was originally intended but that's like expecting today's cellular networks to still support a 1980s bag phone. Eventually the tech just can't get out of its own way and becomes a huge money suck.

    7. Re:Why do ppl think old tech os bad tech? by ZNetracer · · Score: 1

      Enshrined in a museum, yes. Operational for official use, no.

    8. Re: Why do ppl think old tech os bad tech? by toonces33 · · Score: 1

      Even that is a solvable problem, but the costs gradually escalate over the years.

    9. Re:Why do ppl think old tech os bad tech? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Because a new administration has new friends that need government contracts, too.

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    10. Re:Why do ppl think old tech os bad tech? by toonces33 · · Score: 1

      It works, nobody remembers quite *how* it works, and it is critical that it never go down. Then the only viable path forward is to do a complete top-to-bottom replacement, but nobody can agree on the specs for the new system.

    11. Re:Why do ppl think old tech os bad tech? by houghi · · Score: 1

      "if it works, don't fuck with it".

      If only I had known this earlier, I would not have to follow this boring sexual harassment seminar. At least the person giving the presentation has nice tits, so there's that.

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    12. Re:Why do ppl think old tech os bad tech? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Is it working in a satisfactory way? Can it be changed efficiently with changing requirements? Can it be run less expensively? (The used car I bought in 1976 got half the mileage of the similar car I bought in 2008, as an example.) Is it adequately secure and reliable?

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  13. Immigration - reading between the lies by DickBreath · · Score: 5, Funny

    > "Trump suggested he might relax his stance on immigration
    > as a way to get tech leaders to help his cause. 'You can get
    > the people you want,' he told the assembled CEOs.

    Translation: you can bring in low paid Russian immigrants to work on government systems. The more critical systems, the better. Our voting systems need some work, and before 2018.

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    1. Re:Immigration - reading between the lies by goruka · · Score: 2

      The world is globalized, and the main reason to bring immigrants into the US is to reduce wages. If immigration is restricted, costs in the US will raise and outsourcing entire teams will become more profitable (which will cost even more US based jobs).

      In the long run, it all comes down to you having to choose between having a job that doesn't pay as much as you want, or not having one.

    2. Re:Immigration - reading between the lies by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      I think you missed the implied humor where I specifically suggested Russian immigrants to work on government systems. Not something I would have raised an eyebrow over, until very recently.

      I understand why globalization. You don't need to explain it. But there is a flip side to that explanation. Employers want to screw you to line their own pockets, and shareholders. So rather than pay what the job is worth, which they could do and still profit handsomely, they offer you the choice: slave labor wages job, or no job. As ambassador Delenn says, it's all a matter of perspective.

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    3. Re:Immigration - reading between the lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > "Trump suggested he might relax his stance on immigration

      > as a way to get tech leaders to help his cause. 'You can get

      > the people you want,' he told the assembled CEOs.

      Translation: you can bring in low paid Russian immigrants to work on government systems. The more critical systems, the better. Our voting systems need some work, and before 2018.

      ...and we'll make the Russians pay for it!

    4. Re:Immigration - reading between the lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You joke, but Rex Tillerson (Secretary of State) just suggested that we work directly with Russia for US cybersecurity. http://bit.ly/2stna5E

    5. Re:Immigration - reading between the lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even legal practices tell businesses how to get around hiring domestic labor so they can get cheaper foreign labor. I'm surprised this has not been more well known than it is today since it's been going on for over a DECADE now. Here is a vid on such a "training session" for business owners - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

    6. Re:Immigration - reading between the lies by goruka · · Score: 1

      As a company owner, I can tell you Jobs are not paid based on what they are worth, they are paid based on supply and demand. When wages raise it's because it becomes harder to find a resource for such position.

    7. Re:Immigration - reading between the lies by goruka · · Score: 1

      But hiring foreign labor is unavoidable. So many countries hire US based companies for services instead of hiring locally, that if the US would forbid such practice it would, at the same time, lose a lot of foreign customers due to international trade/work laws usually being reciprocal.

  14. Translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It funnels 1 trillion dollars into Trump holdings LLC

  15. Weird by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    We always hear about Washington, D.C. but never about Washington, A.C.

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  16. All just posturing by ranton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Regardless of my feelings about Trump's lack of competence, he is undeniably a master at self promotion and posturing. Tech companies were never going to say no to hundreds of billions in new government IT contracts. But why waste an opportunity to make it seem like he masterfully negotiated the deal? He certainly knew most of his campaign promises would be disastrous, but they spoke to his base (and often independents) and gave him room to maneuver in the undiscerning public eye.

    Trump never wanted to be responsible for destroying our economy with protectionist practices; it would make him look bad. Trump's performance as president has arguably shown his lack of competence at actually executing on his agenda, but his competence at self promoting himself even in the absence of accomplishments is unquestionable.

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    1. Re:All just posturing by Kierthos · · Score: 4, Informative

      Oh, I'll agree that if Trump is good at anything, it's self-promotion and posturing.

      But I honestly think that he thought some of his campaign promises (the border wall among them) were doable, and he's so far out of his depth with not just political reality, but reality itself, that he doesn't understand why it can't be done with a snap of his fingers.

      Trump's big problem (wait, I've narrowed it down to just one?) is that he expects the government to work in the same way that a corporation works. He's the CEO of the United States, and damnit, he should be able to snap his fingers and big projects are started.

      Except that it doesn't work that way, and it never has.

      I lost track of how many times I've had to explain to Republicans/right-leaning independents that, no, the border wall could not be started on Day One of the Trump Presidency, because of silly things like land surveys, and floodwater surveys, and so forth.

      Sometimes, it even got through to them.

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    2. Re:All just posturing by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      he expects the government to work in the same way that a corporation works.

      I said so during the election. It's not like the army either.

      http://www.bartleby.com/73/151...

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    3. Re:All just posturing by gtall · · Score: 2

      So, this prowess in self-promotion led him to having a North Korea style cabinet meeting where his department heads exclaimed what an honor it was to serve him? All that did was make him look like pompous ass he is.

    4. Re:All just posturing by mykepredko · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Correction, Mr. Trump thinks the government works the way *his* corporation works.

      No investors, no board, no experts.

      Even Steve Jobs had more realistic expectations on what was possible.

    5. Re:All just posturing by ranton · · Score: 1

      So, this prowess in self-promotion led him to having a North Korea style cabinet meeting where his department heads exclaimed what an honor it was to serve him? All that did was make him look like pompous ass he is.

      To you it does. But most likely you didn't vote for him. To the people who voted for him it makes him look important. He doesn't need to care what you think about him, he just needs to appeal to the type of people who will buy $200 shoes because it has Jordan's name attached.

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    6. Re: All just posturing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People who buy Jordan's != trump supporters. Trust me on that one.

      Must of the people buying and trading Jordan sneakers are either 1) kids who spend parents money 2) Obama supporters(black people) 3) hipsters who want to look cool

    7. Re:All just posturing by J053 · · Score: 1

      This, exactly. Trump has never had to answer to anyone (except maybe his father, early on) in his entire career - no Board of Directors, no shareholders. He has no idea how to "manage" an enterprise where his word is not the absolute law.

    8. Re:All just posturing by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      There aren't enough hardcore Trump supporters to win an election, and he's alienating everyone else. He won the Presidency because of all the people who voted against Clinton, not because he was that popular.

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    9. Re:All just posturing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even Steve Jobs had more realistic expectations on what was possible.

      That's because Steve Jobs was smart.

  17. Who are they going to hire? by enjar · · Score: 1

    I got a call about an opening in a government agency doing a job not far off from what I do in the private sector. However, I'd need to move to DC (not necessarily a deal breaker), but there's a hiring freeze on, budget cuts, government shutdowns and let's just say the people being appointed to run some parts of the government aren't exactly shining examples of competence to run their agencies. I work at a well run company with a decent salary and benefits. Why am I going to leave that to step into chaos, incompetence and possibly having my job eliminated by budget cuts, or skipping paychecks because of political bullshit? DC isn't a cheap area to live in and the traffic is horrible, but it still has a lot of other upside going for it in terms of what I like to do in a metro area.

    1. Re:Who are they going to hire? by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 2

      They aren't hiring anyone. This is going to be like this infrastructure program which will be a massive amount of money going to private companies for contracts. In return the government will get software that doesn't meet their requirements and is buggy as hell leading to an expensive long term maintenance contract. In exchange for praising Trump, letting him claim job creation, and/or doing business with some of his companies they will find that they can bring in more H-1B employees to increase the profits of their contracts.

    2. Re:Who are they going to hire? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      People who are desperate enough to go. Like always.

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    3. Re:Who are they going to hire? by enjar · · Score: 1

      So ... Top men, Dr. Jones. Top. Men. ... ?

  18. Pretty obvious where this came from by AlanObject · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Readers here may recall that Trump's budget director Mick Mulvaney published a budget that had a $2 Trillion dollar math error.

    Republicans (think Paul Ryan) often (always?) produce budgets that contain all sorts of tax cuts for upper brackets and then a "magic asterisk" that gives no detail but says the shortfall will be made up by a) economic growth stimulated by the tax cuts and b) cost savings from cutting government waste.

    So my take is the bad optics of all this finally bubbled up to Trump (I guess Fox News couldn't filter it out totally) and he gave the command to his minions to find trillions of dollars of "government waste and inefficiency" to save the budget. So they came up with this.

    It doesn't have to make sense. All he wants to do is get headlines out there that proclaim Trump Saves Us Trillions and for most of his base and way too much of the swing voters that is all they will see. It is ideal for this media purpose. If the topic gets the slightest bit technical he can count on the talking airheads to gloss it over and he'd up with "opposing views on this story" in the worst case.

    What that means: enough voters will think have this view: Trump and Republicans produced a budget that will save our economy and Democrats are Fighting It. . They don't have to be right. They just have to throw up enough chaff to confuse the voter and Republicans win the mid-terms again.

  19. Re:Weird !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good!

  20. Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And they'll get obscenely priced bids from "American" companies that will end up offshoring the work anyway.

  21. outsider perspectives?? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Yeah, Apple, Amazon, and Alphabet.. And that's just the A's

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  22. Well, it really needs to be done... by ZNetracer · · Score: 2

    A few thoughts on this: 1. Supporting out-dated hardware, software and infrastructure, gets progressively more expensive as time goes on. If you space a tear out and replace project over say five years as an operating cost instead of an all up front capital cost, it should be doable and save some money in the long run. 2. The more out-dated hardware, software and infrastructure are past end-of-life, the less secure those networks and systems are. Can we stop with the ridiculous federal data breaches everyone?! My security clearance info is out there in the wind so I kind of take that a little personally. 3. Updating infrastructure doesn't have to result in lay-offs or outsourcing (a Yuuuge security risk IMHO). Enough with the FUD. 4. All Federal infrastructure upgrade projects don't have to become total fiasco's, "IF" they have the proper leadership, oversight, scope and funding. You can't tell me that there aren't enough experienced companies, with good success records that could take on this kind of project. 5. Put off infrastructure projects long enough, for whatever reason and eventually, really bad shit happens. Anyway, that's my $2 worth as an IT person.

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  24. Private cloud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if they are going to put everything on private clouds. For me that's what this announcement looks like. A few days back the CIA was claiming giant savings and security because they gave everything to Amazon...

    1. Re:Private cloud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course that contract was 600 million, so imagine how much it is going to cost to put EVERYTHING on their cloud.

    2. Re:Private cloud by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Absolutely for it!

      Remember what property clouds have: A little bit of wind and poof, all is gone.

      I think more companies should entrust the data they collect about us to the cloud...

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    3. Re:Private cloud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if they are going to put everything on private clouds. For me that's what this announcement looks like. A few days back the CIA was claiming giant savings and security because they gave everything to Amazon...

      Yes, send it all to Kremlinzon private cloud, I think

  25. DNC lies, not Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Trump lies constantly

    Sessions met with Russian ambassador. Reality, he was at a gala with hundreds of people and Sessions didn't even know ambassador was present.
    DNC demanded he resign because of that meeting that didn't happen.

    Flynn broke the law. Sketchy details on what he did. Reality is Flynn filled out wrong form when declaring he was paid by Turkey, not that he hid or failed to declare, just wrong form.
    DNC demanded he be jailed.

    Russia and Trump colluded to fake election. Reality, not a shred of evidence from ANYONE.
    DNC demanded he resign or be impeached.

    Russia threw the election. Reality, DNC servers hacked and they paid a private company to say Russia did it. DNC refused to let FBI examine servers. Private company will not testify under oath that Russia did it anymore. FBI now has ZERO evidence of Russia even interfering.

    Comey leaked information, which is questionable at best, as a disgruntled employee in order to get a special council appointed for something he knows no evidence exists for.

    And Trump is the one who lies constantly?

    Oh boy, the left has YET to say anything truthful since Trump has been elected. Ossof was also going to win BIG in Georgia last night too, but I guess that was Trump lying again. Its apparent to most of the country that Trump isn't the compulsive liar here. Its the DNC party who had been telling you Trump is days away from impeachment for literally months now and there is still zero chance of it happening.

    I think you are calling the wrong person a liar.

    1. Re: DNC lies, not Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way to deflect blame there buckaroo. So because some people in the DNC may have lied that makes trump NOT a liar? Nice logic there. Voted up to +2 as well. It's nice to see that people only echo what they want to others to hear.

    2. Re:DNC lies, not Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm yeah ok...

      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/why-did-jeff-sessions-really-meet-sergey-kislyak/530091/

    3. Re:DNC lies, not Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Native Russian speaker? The dropping of articles is the biggest giveaway

    4. Re:DNC lies, not Trump by dywolf · · Score: 1

      who modded this bullshit insightful?

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    5. Re:DNC lies, not Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and if even one those things had applied to hillary she would have been impeached on day one.
      so blow it out your ass.

    6. Re:DNC lies, not Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5 examples of how "the left also lies" doesn't prove that Trump doesn't lie. For one thing he goes through 5 lies usually before breakfast.

    7. Re:DNC lies, not Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The DNC lying does not mean Trump tells the truth. Half the statements he makes are lies.

    8. Re:DNC lies, not Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also some corrections:

      Sessions did meet with Sergey Kislyak 2 times. Once at his office in private. Three times in total if you include the gala you mentioned. No one includes that.

      Mike Flynn characterized his contact with foreign governments as "insubstantial contact" while receiving a lot of money from some of them. Trump let him go for a reason.

      Russia and Trump colluded to fake election: You are right. there is no evidence of collusion and I doubt there will ever be. At worst it was a wink and a nod.

      Russia threw the election: No one says "threw" but did a lot of shady shit. There is strong evidence this came from Russia. That is from the FBI, DHS, and ODIN. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections
      I'm not certain if anyone looked at the servers or not but a lot of evidence was gathered from the phishing attack sites themselves and the toolkits used.
      There's also the falsified news stories etc.

      Comey leaked information: It's more important that he started taking notes on their meetings after the first one.

      And yes, Trump is one of the many lairs here.

      I think the reason the Left is upset isn't really any of this however. Personally I'm upset that we have a president who has built hundreds of buildings employing thousands of undocumented immigrants, yet gets to power by calling them all drug dealers and murderers. We are creating a culture where the weakest in our society can't go to the police because of fear of deportation. They will not report crimes and will be the victims of the "bad guys" who aren't daunted by border walls in any way.

  26. Opportunities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh the opportunities here to lobby, at Trump institutions of course, for part of the government pie.

  27. The problem is intractable by HBI · · Score: 2

    The usual idiots with political axes to grind can keep on droning on about things they don't know anything about. I see lots of that above.

    Everything Trump said is true in regards Federal IT. Everything Kushner said is also true.

    The federal government's IT issue revolves around the huge body shop LSI contractors - GD/NG/BAH/CACI etc. These companies and their subcontractors do a lot of the development and O&M type work associated with federal programs. Key things to remember about these firms:

    1) They won't modernize anything without being paid (again).
    2) They take prior government guidance and twist it into justification for their incompetence
    3) They maximize labor over automation
    4) They keep knowledge institutionalized within their company to the maximum extent possible to maintain their incumbent status

    These companies and their business practices are a huge reason why Federal IT sucks. They get away with it due to Congressional cover. When pressured, or at risk of losing a contract, their lobby in Congress is activated by notifying the lawmakers that jobs will be lost in their districts. The noise level and scrutiny of the Executive agency is usually sufficient to shut that attempt down. Minor GS-level functionaries melt away when Congressional staffers start getting on their case.

    Trump could help with the problem but it's like the Dutch boy trying to use his fingers to fill in holes in the dike. You run out of fingers after a while.

    There are other problems like institutional incompetence amongst GS personnel, but those are probably more amenable to solution than the one I describe.

    Bottom line: The whole system is broken and sucks.

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    1. Re:The problem is intractable by Tom · · Score: 4, Insightful

      All of that is the reason why you don't subcontract if you don't have to. Ignore the consultants you recommend outsourcing, they are only there to make a killing on the outsourcing, then propose insourcing to your successor and make another killing on basically reverting everything.

      If you outsource and immediately make a contract with the outsourced company for the exact same services that it used to provide in-house, you didn't understand anything.

      There are scenarios where outsourcing makes sense. Most of the actual outsourcings done are not in that set.

      And if you are the federal government, your job is not to provide business to a small number of IT companies. Your job is to serve the people of your country in the best possible way, and having your own IT that doesn't answer to any other business goals is one important part of that mission.

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    2. Re:The problem is intractable by HBI · · Score: 1

      The acquisition system in the government has its thumb on the scale for hiring these LSIs. The system is built to compete requirements out to this small group of system integrators. They set up as a prime, hire on subs to bring stuff to the table and to fulfill good-intentioned but misguided rules about hiring small businesses and minority-owned contractors, and get the award. Then the cycle proceeds as described above.

      Fix that, and you're a genius.

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    3. Re:The problem is intractable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The usual idiots with political axes to grind can keep on droning on about things they don't know anything about. I see lots of that above.

      Everything Trump said is true in regards Federal IT. Everything Kushner said is also true.

      The federal government's IT issue revolves around the huge body shop LSI contractors - GD/NG/BAH/CACI etc. These companies and their subcontractors do a lot of the development and O&M type work associated with federal programs. Key things to remember about these firms:

      1) They won't modernize anything without being paid (again). 2) They take prior government guidance and twist it into justification for their incompetence 3) They maximize labor over automation 4) They keep knowledge institutionalized within their company to the maximum extent possible to maintain their incumbent status

      These companies and their business practices are a huge reason why Federal IT sucks. They get away with it due to Congressional cover. When pressured, or at risk of losing a contract, their lobby in Congress is activated by notifying the lawmakers that jobs will be lost in their districts. The noise level and scrutiny of the Executive agency is usually sufficient to shut that attempt down. Minor GS-level functionaries melt away when Congressional staffers start getting on their case.

      Trump could help with the problem but it's like the Dutch boy trying to use his fingers to fill in holes in the dike. You run out of fingers after a while.

      There are other problems like institutional incompetence amongst GS personnel, but those are probably more amenable to solution than the one I describe.

      Bottom line: The whole system is broken and sucks.

      So, you're saying instead of having government IT contractors, the Federal government should just hire its own IT staff, and that would be cheaper and more efficient.

    4. Re:The problem is intractable by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      I don't see how you could expect any other sort of behavior for point 1. Why would you expect any business to provide extra product or work without billing for it?

      I'm not sure what is meant by number 2 exactly, but unless I was given explicit direction to negate the prior guidance then why would I stop following it.

      I would concur that 3 is very likely true for most contracts. However given that most contracts stipulate providing so many hours of labor instead of some specific deliverable, it makes sense to maximize labor over automation.

      I wouldn't doubt that 4 is happening however in nearly every case I've ever seen the new contractor hired on 95%+ of the previous employees. And again this isn't something I'd fault them over, it is behavior I would expect out of any business unless the contract stipulated doing otherwise explicitly.

    5. Re:The problem is intractable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I'm sure that there is a lot of padding going on, most of the issue is simply that these government projects/processes are absolutely huge and therefore surprisingly complex. It takes immense skill to manage them right. Sadly, Trump seems to think he has a simple answer to everything, whether it's healthcare, peace in the middle east, or government projects. Whenever I hear someone suggest a simple solution to a complex problem, I assume that they have no idea what they are talking about. Whenever that person is in charge, I know that there will be failure.

    6. Re:The problem is intractable by HBI · · Score: 1

      Probably true. But the system doesn't call for that. Procurement of new systems is via contract. Saying you are going to constitute an internal government team to produce the system would be shot down instantly in most cases. It violates acquisition rules, and you'd have staffing difficulties.

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    7. Re:The problem is intractable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Key things to remember about these firms:

      1) They won't modernize anything without being paid (again).

      Government IT invariably involves - indeed, specifies - highly bespoke systems, environments, even languages (remember ADA?). "Just give us your off-the-shelf product with no changes at all" said no government department ever. The system can't be re-sold to anyone else, because nobody else wants it. So your proposal is that contractors should do all this development, and then put basically unlimited time into maintaining it for a basically unlimited lifetime with no further recompense?

      Yeah, we'll get right on that.

      2) They take prior government guidance and twist it into justification for their incompetence

      Or to put it another way, they build corporate systems to ensure that they comply with guidance - because they know that if they don't, for every lapse, they'll either have to redo a fuckton of work or simply be screwed by penalty clauses. Don't blame the company for doing what the government insisted it must do. And the fun thing about gov't guidance is that it's issued, but never revoked - instead it's "revised", and when that happens the status of the previous guidance is far from clear.

      3) They maximize labor over automation

      On the user end, this is included in the spec. It's the government that insists on this, not the contractor.

      On the contractor end - well, you try automating a major bespoke IT development, see how far you get. I'll be over here.

      4) They keep knowledge institutionalized within their company to the maximum extent possible to maintain their incumbent status

      Well, of course they do. "Institutionalized knowledge" is what makes companies work. Do you even have an alternative proposal?

    8. Re:The problem is intractable by HBI · · Score: 1

      If the contractor is getting paid for O&M support already, they are funded to make improvements to the product. They will invariably choose not to, of course.

      The guidance is misapplied in most cases. It is a case of creative misrepresentation of the intent of the USG.

      About 3 and 4, the acquisition process militates directly against this - the whole idea of "PDSS" and "PPSS" is about transitioning a system to government-run long term support.

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    9. Re:The problem is intractable by HBI · · Score: 1

      It's not simple.

      However, leadership is key here in modifying existing processes. Trump doesn't have to understand the complexity all that much - he has underlings to handle that kind of thing, even going downward through the echelons to people like me. What is needed is some fundamental reform to the acquisition process to minimize the abuses that cause the project failures. If he gets on that, he could do something useful.

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  28. Because Trump knows technology? by RobinH · · Score: 1

    I buy that he might know how to save money constructing a wall, but I'm not certain this knowledge translates well into the technology domain. Government I.T. jobs are notorious for going over budget.

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  29. Promises by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah... Trump promises a lot of things, many of which are contradictory.

  30. The bar is set really low by mi · · Score: 2, Informative

    These are fantasy numbers and a project this scale would have $10 trillion in hidden costs and risks.

    The bar is set rather low, however. After the most tech-savvy President ever effed-up his own promise to revamp the government, if Trump achieves something — anything — he'll still have done better than the predecessor. Not that you'd know about any such success — unless you are paying really close attention — from the established reporters.

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    1. Re:The bar is set really low by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The last three 2-term administrations made claims of saving money over 10 years but in fact did no such thing. The bar is indeed low. But it really doesn't matter, this was a side show to distract people from other problems. Trump has no intention of reducing taxes or decreasing spending. He made many promises during the campaign that he will not keep. He is no different than Obama, Bush or Clinton in that regard.

      We keep voting for these people in the hopes one day someone will live up to expectations, and finding out they are lying human beings like nearly every person on the planet.

    2. Re:The bar is set really low by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      We keep voting for these people in the hopes one day someone will live up to expectations, and finding out they are lying human beings like nearly every person on the planet.

      B...b...b...b...but Trump's not a politician, he's a businessman!!!

    3. Re:The bar is set really low by chill · · Score: 3, Funny

      And he is definitely giving everyone the business.

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    4. Re:The bar is set really low by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      The problem is that everyone is all for reducing spending and limiting government, right up to the point where it involves their own pocket. Take the EPA for example. The administrator flat out said that they could accomplish their stated mission with only 2/3rds of the money. But, Congressional beasts (even the so-called government reducing Republican ones), complained how some of the programs slated to be cut created jobs.

      Trump, Obama, Bush, et.al. are Presidents, not dictators. Their power to reduce the sprawling federal behemoth is very limited. I doubt a revamping of the infrastructure will do anything to reduce costs, because the bureaucracy will pressed to find a "job" for all the dead weight.

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    5. Re:The bar is set really low by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1
      Executive summary:

      What Does Trump's Budget Mean for the Environment?
      His proposal would gut federal enforcement and effectively halt many Superfund cleanups.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/05/trump-epa-budget-noaa-climate-change/527814

  31. Upload all our freedoms into foggy memory! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds like something the clueless PHB would say after watching a vendor's webinar on how their new fog* technology is going to save 90% over cloud services.

    *fog is the new hotness, google it

    We should upload all our freedoms, the constitution, the bill of rights, hell, our own memories of when we were a democratic nation, into foggy memory. Compliments of Putin and the Trump administration.

    Oops, already done! Move along.

  32. trump just keeps cucking out...as a trump voter.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...I am fine with impeaching him, even tho i voted for him...he is breaking all his campaign promises

  33. Re:The cost for the overhaul? by Tom · · Score: 1

    Cynical.

    Trump might be on to something. There are crazy amounts of funds being burned in even the average IT department because nobody wants to clean ship, like throwing the outdated shit out, sign off on the costs to replace it with something better.

    That is because managers these days think in quaterly earnings, and such a project takes several quarters, if not several years. It's like driving your own car because you don't want to spend money on a new car - after some point, you are actually losing money because the increasing costs of repairs, bad fuel efficiency etc. add up to more than what a change of cars would cost you. But if you don't have the money to buy a new car, you are stuck in that cycle, even if you realize it.

    Modernising IT costs money. Over a carefully chosen period of time, you can very certainly show that the program costs more money than it saves - but will that still hold over a longer period of time?

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  34. He will write Microsoft a trillion dollar cheque. by newdsfornerds · · Score: 1

    EOM

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  35. Re:He will write Microsoft a trillion dollar chequ by newdsfornerds · · Score: 1

    And yeah, it would be the congress who would be cutting the cheque. POTUS does not control the purse strings.

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  36. Acrobat. Not Lotus. by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    As a civilian user of government IT systems, I can tell you that they are byzantine and often use severely outdated technology. I listened to some of the technology leaders' comments yesterday and I noticed that Apple and Alphabet seems very upbeat about it all but IBM seemed to poo-poo the idea. I have an idea why. Take, for example, the State Department's system for getting ITAR export licenses. These fools are STILL using Lotus as a document submission system. It only runs on Windows and it must be submitted using Internet Explorer. IBM owns Lotus. They're still living in the dark ages, Watson technology not withstanding. They clearly have a lucrative contract with State and don't want to see their gravy train derailed. Then there's the inscrutable WAWF system. The password rules are so restrictive that it would likely be easy to hack because of the severely limited ways to create a password.

    Bottom line is that the private sector operates in vastly superior ways. The government (not just federal) needs to adopt these methods AND they need to eliminate the low-bidder rule. By categorically rejecting the lowest bid would take away the habit of low-balling it now and charge through the nose for changes that permeates government contracting.

    1. Re:Acrobat. Not Lotus. by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      I concur on rejecting the lowest bidder. I've learned over the years to shop around to get a lower price, but that the lowest priced artifact in a group is usually complete garbage. By moving up the cost scale a bit, I get a usable item that is still near the bottom. By going for the lowest bidder, the government ends up paying for the company that lied the best and will cut the most corners.

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    2. Re:Acrobat. Not Lotus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adobe Acrobat is simply the other side of the same coin. Requiring Lotus (IBM) to provide all that software on Mac and in Linux would make things easier, but all that currently-proposed change so far only has the optics.

      If a more sane person gets to become President after this administration (along with a more sane Congress, I might add), then I can foresee some green shoots about a federal IT department (akin to the FCC), and another one that would manage and oversee procurements and government contracts. One option, though, is to expand the purview of what the FCC can do, and convert it to something more than what Pai is heading.

      All this will not happen during Trump years, and Republicans will never do it either, because it would be expanding "big government".

      Other departments can be consolidated and merged, but this almost never happens in large countries.

  37. Been doing that for a while now... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    Nice to see Trump continuing the IT initiatives started under Obama. I'm working on one of them. One the biggest challenges that we had was management looking at six different reporting systems and drawing different conclusions about the same data. It took a few years to consolidate the reporting systems into a single reporting system. Our security compliance went from 70% to 95%, and 99% is the new expectation moving forward.

    1. Re:Been doing that for a while now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice to see Trump continuing the IT initiatives started under Obama. I'm working on one of them. One the biggest challenges that we had was management looking at six different reporting systems and drawing different conclusions about the same data. It took a few years to consolidate the reporting systems into a single reporting system. Our security compliance went from 70% to 95%, and 99% is the new expectation moving forward.

      It's all basically just different types of masturbation though isn't it? I notice you didn't mention what your business actually does, but then it probably doesn't matter a great deal. I'm not making any political point here, I'm just highlighting the fact that most human activity is basically pointless and that everybody is fucked.

    2. Re:Been doing that for a while now... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I notice you didn't mention what your business actually does, but then it probably doesn't matter a great deal.

      That's done on purpose. When I updated my LinkedIn profile after getting hired, I got contacted by a whistleblower within two weeks. That caused a bit of concern after I reported the incident to security. I had to scrub the name from my profile and any resumes I had circulating. That was under Obama. These days Trump activists exercising their Second Amendment rights is a bigger concern.

    3. Re:Been doing that for a while now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? I thought the second amendment existed to overthrow the government when it became tyrannical?

    4. Re:Been doing that for a while now... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I thought the second amendment existed to overthrow the government when it became tyrannical?

      Uh, no. The second amendment gives you the right to bear arms. If you want to overthrow the government, do it at the ballot box. Unfortunately, most Americans neither bear arms nor vote.

    5. Re:Been doing that for a while now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > These days Trump activists exercising their Second Amendment rights is a bigger concern.

      You mean anti-Trump activists, right? Like the guy who decided to shoot up a baseball game?

    6. Re:Been doing that for a while now... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      You mean anti-Trump activists, right?

      Nope. Trump supporters who are anti-government. Never mind that Social Security and Medicare are government programs.

      Like the guy who decided to shoot up a baseball game?

      I haven't heard that the shooter was anti-government.

  38. Illegals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right now the only "promise" he seems inclined to keep is to try to deport just about every illegal immigrant DHS can get its hands on.

    Good enough for me.

  39. What kind of idiot would believe this? by DogDude · · Score: 0

    Serious question. What kind of person believes that Trump could accomplish anything other than insulting people in broken English? Even if he understood a fraction of what's going on around him (he doesn't), he could never accomplish something like that.

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    1. Re:What kind of idiot would believe this? by rajafarian · · Score: 1

      The only ones that matter: his voting base.

    2. Re:What kind of idiot would believe this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and here his support base..

      look at the education breakdown, especially:

      https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueM...

  40. A simpler way... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    None of this will change the underlying restrictions which restrict the speed of government. There are extraordinary rules which bound the IT people in government and changing this is what will bring efficiencies.
    For example, it can take six months simply to approve creation of a database with over ten individual's information on it. Compare to the private sector, where information is shared willy-nilly and bought/sold and leaked all over. (200m voter preferences database anyone?) That does not include a long list of user interface, hosting, and privacy, requirements which go far beyond what industry would call "best practices".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_Act_of_1974
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Government_Act_of_2002

    These laws and the regulations which stem from them are where the savings exist because I.T. people in government really do wish to improve these systems and would organically but our bound.

  41. He claims $1T in savings... by thomn8r · · Score: 1

    ...to justify $2T in tax cuts to his 1% buddies

  42. Sounds legit! by sootman · · Score: 1

    Because "big change" and "bold thinking" never lead to projects going over budget.

    But hey, there's no headlines in saying "We're encouraging our agencies to consider consolidating services over the next five years."

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  43. Cost-cutting is the wrong focus. by shess · · Score: 1

    Government systems should be refactored to make government services better. Full stop. Saving money might be a useful side effect, but it might not, but cost-savings should not be the goal. Cost-saving projects run the risk of not actually saving anything while also screwing up things which already (kind of) worked.

    As a for-instance, when a bank merges with another bank, they'll often claim some crazy cost-savings from merging backend operations. But it would be stupid to run a bank with multiple sets of backend operations, you'd lose more from lost opportunity due to confusion that you'll gain from literal cost savings from merging things. But nobody wants to hear the story of "There's a huge risk in combining disparate operations systems", instead trotting out cost savings makes everyone happy.

    This is ignoring the problem that the government doesn't get to choose its field of operations. A tech company to some extent chooses its field based on whether it will be able to do things efficiently, and then if it takes over the world it can just ignore the detritus. But the US government must integrate, say, service records of veterans across decades, call it ~100 years. They have to take potentially sketchy records from the world wars and integrate them in a useful way into a system which is also taking in 1000x as much data about people currently operating in Syria. There's no possibility of saying "Could we just go regenerate this data to add the missing tags?" It's actually somewhat likely that in some cases you're better off with federated systems rather than a single system of integrated data.

    Basically, it's a hard problem. You can almost certainly design a system to handle things better, but any redesign will have huge capital costs. A very likely outcome is that you'll have a new system which doesn't quite handle everything the old system did, and now you have two systems with different groups dependent enough on each that you can't shut either down, so things are actually less efficient.

  44. DECnet, SNA and X.25 anybody? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of the 10 oldest networks that are at least 39 years old, how many of them are likely to be running IPV4 (or, lol , IPV6?). What about of the next 50 oldest? I could see agood chunk of the hoped-for saving disappear into replacing those DECnet, SNA and maybe X.25 networks (and NETBEUI, AppleTalk, Netware, Banyan Vines, etc) because you'd have to change all the systems they areconnected to and the software on them.

    Especially when you consider how many of them are likely to be miltary systems running ICBMs and the like, I can see the defence contractors rubbing their hands with glee.

  45. Re:He will write Microsoft a trillion dollar chequ by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    He'll twitter them into submission, as usual.

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  46. Our goal is to generate billables for consultants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Our goal is to generate billions in billable for IT consultants at Accenture, IBM etc..." There I rephrased that for him. IT contracting with the US government is a license to print money and generate very bad code on rollouts that are always a disaster. I worked in the HIPAA and CMS arena for 12 years. Oh, boy...talk about "waste, fraud and abuse." The best thing for the Americans public is if they don't do anything at all. But then it's more money for me if they do...so I'm rather conflicted.

  47. If you believe *any* of that... by marian · · Score: 0

    ...I have a very nice bridge for sale in NY that you'd be interested in. Only a bit over 100 years old, and it great shape!

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  48. Trump can save the US a lot of money! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just stop flying down to golf in Florida every weekend.

    http://www.newsweek.com/trumps...

  49. Re:The cost for the overhaul? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure we can save money replacing a 10+ year old mission critical database on antique hardware whose maintenance costs ~$1mil/year. However, there are probably 40 different systems that directly interact with it that all need to be tested. Testing that cutover will probably cost $50-$100mil in time and contractor resources in part because we will have to hire and train people to modify the other old stuff touching it. The actual cutover will likely cause an agency outage for 2-3 days in the best case scenario, and weeks of outage in a worst case scenario. Will we better off for doing it - absolutely yes. In a world of limited budgets, can we justify that? So far the answer has been no.

    Repeat the above discussion (twiddling the numbers based on the project) for every other antiquated system.

    The problem gets a little easier after the first few projects are completed because all of a sudden you have resources that understand the less antique systems a bit better. If you were lucky on the first few, you also have more confidence in the projects - until you get burned badly on one.

    The government instead has engaged in big bang rewrites of major applications. If successful and properly scoped they can replace the antiquated systems. Usually, if they are successful they just put a new face on the antiquated systems which doesn't really help. The ones we hear about in the news are the ones that are spectacular failures. Far more common on the slow lingering failures/death march projects.

    What the tech companies don't understand is that the government can't just drop a system it doesn't like any more, as Google does regularly. There are regulatory requirements that need to be changed first, and those requirements frequently come from Congress. Congress is not known as a body that acts quickly, efficiently, or competently.

    I wish I had a good solution, but if I did I'd be a tech visionary making big money, not a grunt in the trenches trying to help.

  50. Trillion? by jandersen · · Score: 0

    Maybe he doesn't know what a trillion is? This isn't the first time he reminds me of George W Bush (to whom he doesn't compare favourably):

    An aide walks into the oval office. George W. Bush is currently president, and the Iraq war is dragging out into a long and grueling occupation. The aide presents the numbers from yesterday to the President.

    "Mr. President, yesterday the US coalition forces killed a confirmed 36 insurgents."

    The President nodded his head patriotically.

    "There were some losses on our end, however." The aide continued. "We lost a US hummer with four soldiers in it to an IED outside of Tikrit, and 2 Brazilian soldiers were killed in a crossfire in Baghdad."

    The president nodded solemnly with the news of the hummer, but his face was ashen by the end of the sentence, and he buried his face in his hands. The aide looked startled, "Sir, what's the matter."

    With scared eyes, President Bush looked up and mumbled "How many is a brazilian?"

  51. hello! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's more important? $5 T-shirt and one is out of work or $10 T-shirt and one has a good paying job?

    Priorities.

    1. Re:hello! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      If you think about it for 5 seconds, you know that the 10 dollar shirt is cheaper. Way cheaper.

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  52. Yea, good luck with that... by EvilSS · · Score: 2

    You could elect Jesus Christ and Mohamed as Pres/VP and they still wouldn't have enough political power and clout to untangle the bureaucratic rat's nest that is the US government.

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    1. Re:Yea, good luck with that... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      You could elect Jesus Christ and Mohamed as Pres/VP and they still wouldn't have enough political power and clout to untangle the bureaucratic rat's nest that is the US government.

      It's not a question of political power. Tangled bureaucracies work because it's the only way anyone has figured out of running a large organisations. Once it gets to the size of a large company, let alone a large country, the organisation is simply too big and too diverse for any one person to have a grasp of. Basically they work because you can compartmentalise operations into more or less independent sections which can operate on their little bit without too much external communication. Oh and it's double hard for the government because as another poster pointed out you can't just decide to drop an area of business because you feel like it.

      The result if of course this tangled rats nest of communicating autonomous organisations with tendrils of communication going roughly where then need roughly when. But crucially there's enough redundancy that things don't fall over completely even in the face of natural disasters and it doesn't require anything that doesn't exist, like someone who can understand the entire thing in one go. What it does require is a large supply of semi-competent labour which is one of the few things not in short supply.

      Even if you had all the political will in the world, you couldn't untangle it because no one has any idea what to replace it with except for a brand new tangled mess.

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  53. Only One Person In Your List Can Do It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linux Torvalds can save the US Federal and State budgets $1,000,000,000,000 over the course of a decade if they switched to Linux. Thanks to Steve Ballmer, we have some data to examine. How much of these expenditures are for Windows licensing?

    This would also close some of the attack vectors into government systems, saving significantly more money.

  54. Mod parent DOWN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This biggottry is not allowed at Slashdot.

  55. Trump "Promises" ? 'nuf said by Spinlock_1977 · · Score: 0

    Trump "Promises" ? 'nuf said

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  56. A trillion here, a trillion there... by rnturn · · Score: 0

    Anyone else find it odd that Hair Trump always pulls the figure $1T out of his ass when announcing these initiatives? A trillion for infrastructure... A trillion savings for IT... That tells me that he (or his staff) hasn't put much thought into these announcements.

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    CUR ALLOC 20195.....5804M
  57. Republicans? Save money?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, but voting Republican is what you usually do when you think the government is far too underpowered and not nearly expensive enough. And if Congress gets too much in the way of funnelling taxpayers' money to the president's friends, he can always start a war without their permission, so his friends can be contractors in that.

    I think it's fine that Trump is saying he's going to be the next Bill Clinton, but he has to really do it if he wants people to start thinking of him as a real RINO. Expect Republicans to campaign against him, even if he doesn't get impeached. Saving money is the bane of the radical left's existence, anathema to everything the modern Republican party stands for: using government force to take away your money without your consent. There's only one way to get a a more expensive and anti-American government than voting Democrat, and that's voting Republican. Republicans have to protect this reputation or else they'll be known for nothing, not having any coherent political message at all. That's is Brand Death.

    Trump, they're not going to let you endanger that. Fortunately, with your attempts to legalize pollution (i.e. make certain business' expenses become public expenses) we know that it's not really your agenda. We know you're still here to take away our money to subsidize thieves. You're no RINO as much as you pretend otherwise.

  58. Re:The cost for the overhaul? by jruschme5184 · · Score: 1

    Not all that cynical, really. The history of IT is filled with stories about massive Government and Military IT upgrades that either don't pan out or run severely over budget and end up cancelled or drastically scaled down. For instance, air traffic control modernization has been a big issue since the Carter administration: https://www.forbes.com/sites/m... Then there's the IRS modernization: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/... And various military software overhauls: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12... https://arstechnica.com/inform...

  59. i dont think that tech giants are that dumb. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "if tech giants scratch his back, he may later deign to scratch theirs."

    unless he puts something down in writing for said "tech giants" i dont think any of them would believe him. The only thing that anyone can predict about trump is that he will always be looking out for his own personal brand. If this venture fails he will just try and silence people and make it go away like he did with trump university.

    The problem with running a country like a company is that companies fail all the time. In order to run a country one must rally the people of the country to all work together for the betterment of the country. If i am not mistaken that is precisely why the states was founded, yet that drive was taken over by capitalists shortly after the civil war. America isnt alone in this either, most countries have fallen to this ruse and we as a species are forever worse about it..

  60. Russian hosting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The US could save a lot in cooling costs by moving the data centers to Russia (and bandwidth savings on both sides...)

  61. Again folks invent meanings with Trump by Space+Grrrl · · Score: 1

    So he said "You can get the people you want" and immediately everyone imagines what he means. He hasn't DONE anything and he prides himself on closing deals by basically saying whatever it takes. So I've learned with Trump look to actions, not invented interpretations of his random comments.
    I'd suggest that there are lots of those "people" tech leaders need right here in the good old "US" of "A". Sure, maybe he will revert the H1B situation to the same or even worse (from the perspective of an older US tech worker) but he hasn't taken any steps to do that yet. But if you are imagining outcomes how about imagine something good. He discovers unicorns that poop gold.
    I mean seriously. I've seen predictions of him bringing in Russians in the responses implying they'd be put to work on our voting systems!. Where is there any indication of that? What Trump has proven to be is a very effective way to get people to spew their inner dark imaginations. It is a great time in history to own popcorn stocks and sit back and watch it all unfold. What he has proven is that the world is all far less fragile than everyone seems to think.

  62. If it isn't broken, why fix it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work for $MEGACORP and have lost count of the number of legacy systems (which albeit old, worked perfectly) that have undergone "upgrades" over the last few years to complete and utter shite "apps" that are unusable. Why? Because "mandatory upgrades" that's why.

    There are aftermarket mitigation measures available for legacy OSes. Sometimes keeping the legacy stuff around can save a bit of money in the end but good luck convincing some shite-for-brains IT PHB that.

    1. Re: If it isn't broken, why fix it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2003-2007 is now legacy. Get with the times grandpa

  63. Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This from the asshole that threatens to shoot people who say things he doesn't like. Then when they make fun of him for making such stupid statements he threatens to sue them for... for him threatening to shoot them and them not taking it seriously.

    Get off of /. if all you are going to do is constantly threaten other people and then pretend you are the victim. The only person threatening to shoot other people here is you. Just because you find that acceptable behavior doesn't mean ANYONE else does or has done the same to you.

    1. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      This from the asshole that threatens to shoot people who say things he doesn't like. Then when they make fun of him for making such stupid statements he threatens to sue them for... for him threatening to shoot them and them not taking it seriously.

      Are you the asshat who threatened to report me to the Governor of California? Are you the asshat who threatened to report me to the IRS for making too much money from my side business?

      Get off of /. if all you are going to do is constantly threaten other people and then pretend you are the victim. The only person threatening to shoot other people here is you. Just because you find that acceptable behavior doesn't mean ANYONE else does or has done the same to you.

      Some asshat thought it was cute to link my name and website with a picture of two men having sex with each other on an image website. I filed a complaint with the FBI last night.

    2. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lols, no. I don't have time to waste on people like you other than reading people making fun of you.

      When the FBI calls, let me know. I'd like to let them know you assaulted me with a deadly weapon, a crime they might actually look into. Of course they won't call you because freedom of speech and all. Keep threatening people, that is why they harass you. They are calling your bluff that you can actually do something about it and they know how worthless you actually are. After all, you consider yourself a "world traveler" after going to LA twice and Iowa once.

      You don't like your treatment? Stay off of /.. We don't like you threating to kill/sue/call the FBI or whatever other threats you give to us. Your behavior is UNACCEPTABLE in society, and you can't seem to understand that. You are being tormented in the exact same ways you are attempting to torment others and you don't see the irony.

      You call their behavior unacceptable and then do it yourself and are too stupid to realize they are literally making fun of you for it.

    3. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Your behavior is UNACCEPTABLE in society, and you can't seem to understand that.

      What you failed to understand is that five user accounts got deleted by Slashdot management, two dozen DMCA takedown notices were sent to image websites, and a criminal complaint got filed with the FBI. Why? Because of UNACCEPTABLE behavior on Slashdot that isn't tolerated in society.

    4. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's with all this "asshat" stuff? Is it 2002 again? You're an old guy using an old word to try to sound cool? Makes you look totally out-of-touch and completely irrelevant.

    5. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's unacceptable to sign up satire accounts? Society finds satire unacceptable?

      No, terrorism is unacceptable, child abuse is unacceptable. Making fun of a fluffed-up cartoon of a human is perfectly acceptable.

      Did you also call the FBI about Saturday Night Live and the ten thousand parody channels on YouTube?

      You ridiculous, absurd, mong.

    6. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some asshat thought it was cute to link my name and website with a picture of two men having sex with each other on an image website. I filed a complaint with the FBI last night.

      Honest question - what sort of crime do you imagine that this is? What statute, exactly, would give the FBI jurisdiction?

      I'm not exactly sure HOW this rises to the level of a criminal complaint which the FBI would have jurisdiction over.

      I understand that you may not appreciate someone doing that, and it might even make you SUPER mad... but how does the FBI get involved?

    7. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      It's unacceptable to sign up satire accounts? Society finds satire unacceptable?

      Abuse is not acceptable. Copyright infringement is not acceptable. Revenge pornography is not acceptable.

    8. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody infringed your copyrights. You don't even know what "revenge porn" is, do you? Oh my God you're a completely delusional fruitcake!

      I sincerely hope the FBI fines you for the waste of time you are causing.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge_porn

      Since you are a virgin, there are no pictures of you engaging in sex. I think even George Lucas couldn't pull that off.

    9. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Honest question - what sort of crime do you imagine that this is? What statute, exactly, would give the FBI jurisdiction?

      Copyright infringement and revenge porn.

      [...] it might even make you SUPER mad...

      I'm not mad. As a content creator, I have to protect my copyrights or risk losing them.

      [...] but how does the FBI get involved?

      FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center
      https://www.ic3.gov/

    10. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never mind that tubby isn't even clear on the concept of what "revenge porn" is... This is quickly veering into a Dali-esque surreal pastiche. The man's insane.

      He's borderline psychotic and needs medication and treatment.

    11. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Copyright infringement

      Wait - how is somebody posting a photo of two gay guys fucking infringing on YOUR copyrights? Do you own the copyrights to the image? If not, then you have no standing to make a copyright claim against the photo.

      revenge porn

      Revenge porn is defined as:

      revealing or sexually explicit images or videos of a person posted on the Internet, typically by a former sexual partner, without the consent of the subject and in order to cause them distress or embarrassment.

      So are you claiming that one of the guys in the image is you? And that the person posting it is likely a former sexual partner of yours? Because I don't think posting a distasteful image of two other people alongside a link to your website really constitutes "revenge porn."

      I'm not mad. As a content creator, I have to protect my copyrights or risk losing them.

      Wait, which copyright of yours is being infringed by someone posting a photo of two gay guys having sex next to a link to your web site?? Unless the photo is owned by you, or is an image of you, you have no basis to make a copyright claim. That it appears on the web alongside a link to your website doesn't make any difference, unless they are also including some non-trivial amount of your website content alongside the image - in which case you would have no claim against the photo, but could make a claim against the inclusion of content from your website without proper attribution.

      FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center

      The problem is, there doesn't appear to be any crime here. So I'm not sure why you think the FBI has jurisdiction here.

    12. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      [...] there are no pictures of you engaging in sex.

      Never mind that the dick pic featured two men who had a passing resemblance to me, and that posting my name and URL would cause someone to reasonably conclude that one of the men in the picture was me.

    13. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      So are you claiming that one of the guys in the image is you?

      I'm claiming that a reasonable person could conclude that one of the men in the dick pic could be me, as they each bare a passing resemblance to my photo on my author website. Furthermore, the person who has been reposting my photo without authorization (copyright infringement) recently had four user accounts deleted and has the motive to take revenge on me by implying that I'm a homosexual in a dick pic. Hence, revenge porn.

      So I'm not sure why you think the FBI has jurisdiction here.

      A determination that the FBI needs to make.

    14. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm claiming that a reasonable person could conclude that one of the men in the dick pic could be me,

      That's not a copyright claim, period. You have no standing to make a claim on behalf of someone else's copyright.

      It's also not revenge porn - because you are NOT the subject of the photos. That you "resemble" the guys in the photo has absolutely no bearing on whether or not it's "revenge porn."

      It's could *tenuously* be argued to be defamation of character, but even that is tenuous. Not likely to be much of a case there.

      Furthermore, the person who has been reposting my photo without authorization (copyright infringement) recently had four user accounts deleted and has the motive to take revenge on me by implying that I'm a homosexual in a dick pic. Hence, revenge porn.

      No, NOT "hence, revenge porn." Revenge porn is *photos of YOU shared against your will and without your consent.* If it were so loosely defined as "any picture of anybody who could remotely look like me," then the entire porn industry would be shut down, because everybody looks "kinda like" someone else.

      A determination that the FBI needs to make.

      When they finish howling with laughter and forwarding your message around the office, you mean?

    15. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      You have no standing to make a claim on behalf of someone else's copyright.

      I did argued that the dick pic violated the image website's TOS as revenge porn. The dick pic is no more. I did create a screenshot for the FBI.

    16. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did argued that the dick pic violated the image website's TOS as revenge porn.

      Which it is not.

      The dick pic is no more.

      Which means the website operator didn't want to be bothered arguing with you, not that it was "revenge porn."

      I did create a screenshot for the FBI.

      So you submitted gay porn to the FBI and tried to claim it was revenge porn?

      Creimer,stop. My sides can't take any more of this. They're practically in orbit.

    17. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      So you submitted gay porn to the FBI and tried to claim it was revenge porn?

      Not yet. I'm still waiting for a response to my complaint. Meanwhile I'm assembling the documentation, emails and contact info from the last three months.

    18. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, whatever happened to C.D. Reimer & Associates LLC? All the documentation I have here has only your signature on it. Who were these associates?

    19. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, according to that site:

      "Financial transaction information (e.g., account information, transaction date and amount, who received the money)"

      Curious as to what "documentation" you have here, and what money is involved here. That half cent of ad revenue you lost? Can I mail you a penny? Is your apartment number still the same?

      "Specific details on how you were victimized"

      Yeah, if anything, WE are the victims here...

    20. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Hey, whatever happened to C.D. Reimer & Associates LLC?

      An expensive mistake. I spent two years arguing with the FTB on how expensive it was supposed to be.

      All the documentation I have here has only your signature on it. Who were these associates?

      Private investors.

    21. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      70$ for registering. I was wondering were you scrounged that up.

      "Private investors."

      LOL. What a rich and vibrant imaginary life. You also have a barely legible signature, but I guess it was enough for the State of California. Nice cancellation form too. "Sole member"! BAhahahahaha!!!!

      creimer, you should write about YOU, instead of the terrible, awful crap I've read from you so far. Seriously, if you could write a story half as entertaining as your behavior here, you could ACTUALLY make some revenues from your writing!

      Probably these "private investors" took one look at who and what you really are and ran faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away as quickly as possible.

    22. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      70$ for registering. I was wondering were you scrounged that up.

      The franchise tax is $800+ per year — off the top.

    23. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...so THAT's why you cling so desperately to your imaginary business model...???

      You incur expenses that you don't need, then scramble desperately just to break even ??

      No wonder you're so stressed!

    24. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Is your apartment number still the same?

      Read the subject line and think twice (if you can).

    25. Re:Creimer threatens to shoot others by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      You incur expenses that you don't need, then scramble desperately just to break even ??

      Nope. I dissolved the LLC because I've decided to walk away from the business for a while (three years, actually). It didn't help that the FTB took my tax payment, didn't update records, and tried to collect money that I've already paid. I didn't want my cash flow going the state during the time I wasn't involved with the business.

  64. Gov NEVER Saves by Mkkby · · Score: 2

    All government does is spend. They never save. I'm sure they still have buggy whip inspectors because nobody ever gets laid off, no matter how useless.

    Nothing will happen because congress won't do anything Trump wants. If it were approved, they would spend $1 trillion and get no savings at all. How many decades have they been trying to upgrade the air traffic control systems from the 60s?

  65. He got Jobs' RDF, though. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the plus side, I'm pretty sure that President Trump has a reality distortion field of his own.

  66. cremier thinks shooting people is fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yep, that's Creimer for you. Shooting up people you don't like is acceptable, and he threatens to do the same. Talk about cutting a program that can't be afforded and you are the devil incarnate.

    Creimer is so dumb he doesn't realize debate over issues is acceptable but shooting people isn't. He is literally that dumb and doesn't realize it. Here comes his threats to shoot/sue/call the FBI on me again. I wonder what his next threat is going to be since nothing has worked before.

    1. Re:cremier thinks shooting people is fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think creimer is more of a threat to himself through his personality disorders and behavior. I don't think he ever threatened to shoot anyone, did he? Can you provide a link?

    2. Re:cremier thinks shooting people is fine by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Can you provide a link?

      I can provide several since Slashdot has become a profitble theme on my blog.

      https://www.kickingthebitbucket.com/2017/03/21/have-i-threatened-to-shoot-you-today/
      https://www.kickingthebitbucket.com/tag/slashdot/

  67. Let's see how the works out... by HEMI426 · · Score: 1

    As a Federal employee, the department I work for can't even run e-mail and VPN reliably, yet they mandate use of those services. At this point just about any real direction would be an improvement.

    1. Re:Let's see how the works out... by Tempest451 · · Score: 1

      As a fellow Federal employee, we know lot's of people who know how they should work, but answer to those that don't.

    2. Re:Let's see how the works out... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      At this point just about any real direction would be an improvement.

      No it can always get worse. However crappy your system, when it gets replaced by something shat out by oracle for only a hundred million, you'll beg anyone for the old system back.

      --
      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    3. Re:Let's see how the works out... by HEMI426 · · Score: 1

      Well, we're currently under the thumb of Microsoft BPOS, routed through two very poorly-ran Juniper Pulse VPN concentrators that are in a constant state of flux, and apparently the people making the decisions don't have any idea what "testing" is...No, I'm not sure it could be that much worse in this case.

  68. Re:The cost for the overhaul? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "My guess they will save 1 trillion over ten years, by spending 2 trillion over the same period of time."

    Well duh. That sort of thing is baked into American culture. Just look at how we are about health care.

  69. Gov used to work by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    Funny how it only takes a generation and people think that the new normal has been eternal...

    Gov waste and corruption are OK as long as it is lower than the profit margin of private management... Even then, private isn't always better... look at ISPs...

    Trump would delegate it to a few corrupt billionaires who'd pocket any savings and commit fraud (like many did to get that rich....--> ) Trump would believe whatever FOX told him while the Gov would lose massive amounts of money while claiming savings... Maybe they'd play some accounting games but they don't seem to bother much anymore. Now everybody just flat out LIES and calls truth fake news. (25% of the nation is retarded and they vote.)

    Look at NYC which spent billions to fail to redo a system just to save a little money on employee time cards etc. Have you been involved in gov contract projects? They are a moving target that is pushed by political winds-- it is no surprise private contractors have so much trouble. The bidding contractors generally only have 1 skill: how to get contracts (and bribe for them.) Their other talent is not going to jail; wait a few losses out and then get contracts AGAIN.

    Obama had a few IT people trying to fix just a little bit and they didn't have a good time of it. You have to fight entrenched powerful PRIVATE forces -- a lot of what people think is government has already been privatized out -- government does better when they in-house; their contracting work always seems to be a disaster with far LESS accountability.

    Pursuit of perfection... like the pursuit of Utopia is actually EVIL.

    1. Re:Gov used to work by bussdriver · · Score: 1

      correction- a lot of people think everything is government -- when it is not, it's contracted out.

  70. Re:He will write Microsoft a trillion dollar chequ by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    That's what I was thinking. MS probably convinced T that if the Fed Gov't simply used only MS products, everything would be compatible and integrated with everything, and magic wizard dialog boxes and IDE Intellisense would auto-magically do most of the work.

    MS-Wall is compatible with MS-Border-Guard and compatible with MS-Extreme-Vetting and MS-Mex-will-pay-for-it. Just sign the check and plug'em in!

  71. virtue signaling by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 1

    That my number one gripe with the "social justice" type and the government its self. They worry more about people that need help on the other side of the planet than in their own back yard. Pathetic.

    I say, sir, are you aware that the man you are fighting is made of straw, and that it is of your own invention? A fierce scallywag he is, for sure, but maybe you could dial down the virtue signaling a bit? Kthx

    --
    Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
    1. Re:virtue signaling by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      You are either blind to reality, or don't live anywhere near the US.

    2. Re:virtue signaling by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 1

      You have no idea what was just said to you, apparently.

      --
      Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
  72. blah blah cloud blah cloud blah platform by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    consolidate 6000 data centers? where? and would we all have to move our offices or will we still have the low latency we currently enjoy from local data centers? how will the data get to this place. seems DT wants to rebuild the internet, develop a new uber framework, replace all the cobol and mainframes? it will cost more than a trillion and take more than 10 years.
    mapreduce hadoop mongo buzzword blah blah.

  73. Slashdot - News for Snowflakes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anti-Trump circlejerk 24/7. Good luck selling this turd, DICE.

  74. Re:The cost for the overhaul? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

    We don't seem to be able to do very large software projects reliably. The ACA website was unusually successful for a project that size.

    --
    "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  75. Insurance payments = tax, and Obamacare = tax cut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obama instituted Obamacare (also known as ACA), and this alone made more than 20 million Americans feel confident about their lives, secure in the knowledge, that if they have a medical issue, then they will not go bankrupt.

    Insurance payments are taxes just like any other, only to private companies.

    Obamacare is thus a substantial tax cut for the people.
    And Republicans want the nation not to have it. Think about that.

    Health-related bankruptcies weigh heavily on the economy, too, because those bankruptcies reduce the financial independence and solvency of the people affected, and so increase the burden on the rest of the society.

    With ACA, these 20+ million people actually have surplus money that they could spend on something useful, such as investing in hurricane-proof housing and related home improvement. Americans, whose lives have been healed and saved through ACA=Obamacare, can continue working, contributing to society, and paying tax.

    ACA/Obamacare does not prevent health-related expenditures, but these have been a lot smaller than under private insurance. It seems, that Big Health and Big Pharma in the U.S. actually want people to get sick and die very slowly, so that said companies could profit off someone's terrible pain.

  76. Oh My, What An Impressive List! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh no, it isn't impressive. At all.

    Trump is "pushing for" stuff he hasn't got done. And that's about it. Trump hasn't passed a single significant piece of legislation; he can't focus long enough to do the work of governing.

    Want to know what Trump has done a lot of? Signing Executive Orders. Remember one thing Trump bitterly criticized Obama for doing? Signing Executive Orders.

    Oh, and Trump has made it clear that he likes having his ego stroked. So gather round campers and debase yourselves! The Great Orange Leader needs endless ego stroking until he spurts with self-satisfaction. Yes, it's that disgusting.