Sorry, But Anonymous Has No Evidence That NASA Has Found Alien Life (popsci.com)
From a Popular Science article: In a new video, the hacker group known as Anonymous claims that NASA has discovered alien life. But before you freak out, let's talk. Sadly, the group of activists and hacktivists doesn't seem to have found any new evidence to support their extraordinary claim. The video is mainly based on NASA quotes taken out of context, and what appear to be videos and information from conspiracy theory websites. The crux of the argument is based on something Thomas Zurbuchen, NASA's associate administrator for the Science Mission Directorate, said during a hearing in April. These sorts of hearings are organized to educate the House Science Committee on the latest research in a particular field of study. During this one, Zurbuchen said: "Taking into account all of the different activities and missions that are specifically searching for evidence of alien life, we are on the verge of making one of the most profound, unprecedented, discoveries in history." That's the quote Anonymous is pegging their video on. But if you watch his opening statement, he actually explains his reasoning just before he gets to that part. He mentions the Mars 2020 rover, which will look for signs of past life on the red planet. The Europa Clipper mission is slated to search for conditions suitable to life on Jupiter's ocean-filled moon. In a statement, Zurbuchen said, "While we're excited about the latest findings from NASA's Kepler space observatory, there's no pending announcement regarding extraterrestrial life. For years NASA has expressed interest in searching for signs of life beyond Earth. We have a number of science missions that are moving forward with the goal of seeking signs of past and present life on Mars and ocean worlds in the outer solar system. While we do not yet have answers, we will continue to work to address the fundamental question, 'are we alone?'"
Anyone can claim to be part of it and then push any lie they want and the blame will fall on that group..
We have to stay here...
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Consult the Tsoukalos! We don't need no stinkin' Anonymous here.
What do Assange and Snowden think?
They may have discovered Hooloovoos by spectral analysis of exoplanets.
They got anything we can use against him?
NASA isn't hiding any aliens from us. Discovering alien life would be the best thing that could happen for NASA. Nothing would boost their budget more, or get the public supporting them more.
The last thing NASA would possibly want to do is hide the existence of ETs from us.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
We know there aren't aliens because Donald Trump would have blabbed about it by now if there were.
Unless he *is* one of them - deep cover - preparing the way for their invasion force.
An educated "guess" is not good enough. NASA doesn't have the talent anymore. NASA is a cush job for aspiring bureaucrats on cruise control seeking little effort, good benefits, and a nice retirement package courtesy of Uncle Sam
If life were found on another planet, the Judeo-Christian-Islamic World - 90% of the World's population (I think the GP meant that) - would totally freak out. Their mythology is based upon we humans being created here on Planet Earth in God's Image.
Now, there's nothing I know of in any religious texts that says that their god created other planets and and other people, but it is assumed that we are It in the Universe.
I mean really, those people are freaking out over our globalized World and the increasing secularization of it. Do you honestly think that those people would be OK with finding life on another planet?
I don't. I see shit hitting the fan like in Carl Sagan's "Contact".
I mean we need a new space alien look instead of the same retread from 20th century big eyes, small mouth, big head with slender body. We need diversity instead of same little green men. Also why are all space aliens naked? It seems anyone that travels interstellar distances at superluminal speeds would want a flight suit with cool patches.
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Frosty piss.
Nice.
Few politicians understand that science is something that we need to continually advance even if it there is no profit in it. This means you have to make them feel it's "worth it" somehow which leads to grand statements like,
we are on the verge of making one of the most profound, unprecedented, discoveries in history.
The only mystery here is how smart hackers can be so easily fooled by there own confirmation bias.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
As per Ryan Sohmer's comic (http://www.leasticoulddo.com/comic/20170605/), it is quite clear that the US government has no contact with aliens, wizards, or psychics.
Because there is NO way that Donald "Covfefe" Trump could have kept that to himself. Similarly, Bin Laden was the author behind 911 and Obama had him killed.
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Science says nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.
Yet some Scientists say that an argument against there being alien life is that they have never come to visit us.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
So Anonymous discovered Scientologists. Completely Bat-Guano "informed" individuals with "Religious Beliefs" based upon a create-a-church-to-avoid-taxes-scam-from-1950s. Unimpressed
^^^^ Hey look! I'm Anonymous too. And I say this is fake news.
I was looking forward to trying the alien's cuisine. I wonder once the announcement is made how long it'll take Virgin Galactic to do flights ;P
That's because NASA learned the hard way that it's difficult to distinguish between life and "funny soil chemistry" (FSC). Viking results are still heavily debated.
To do it "right" probably requires devising progressively more-specific experiments based on early ones to distinguish between competing theories. That could require several feedback cycles (new missions), and in the end still not rule out FSC.
Until several microbe specimens are observed moving and/or reproducing under a microscope, the question will likely never be settled. Since any microbes are probably small and few in number, probe-based microscopic observation is not trivial. But advances in scope miniaturization may make it so one day. However, the radiation on Mars is so strong that there may be a limit to practical miniaturization, unless maybe samples are robotically delivered to a "cave lab" probe.
By the way, the 2003 UK Beagle 2 lander mission had life-detection instruments, but unfortunately failed to fully deploy. It's a bummer because in-orbit photos suggest that it landed okay, but some mechanical problem prevented it from fully deploying the solar panels. Its particular "daisy" design required all the solar panels to open before the antenna could function. They should have included a non-hidden low-bandwidth backup antenna for status and engineering communication.
Such a backup saved NASA's Galileo Jupiter orbiter mission when the main antenna failed to deploy properly. Couldn't send a lot of images, but it did other wonderful science.
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It pays to keep in mind that Anonymous also tacitly support Donald Trump.
Recall last year when they said they could sabotage Mr Trump's election campaign any time they wanted, then didn't do it.
That means either the blame for todays US Presidency rests squarely on the shoulders of Anonymous, or they are nothing more than saber rattlers and completely full of shit.
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
LIES!! Everything discovered on 4chan is 100% authentic and legitimate. The media is lying! Aliens are real!
REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
I guess now that they got Republicans elected they have nothing to actually do. can't wait to see them spring back into action for the 2020 campaign season spreading BS about Democrats and Democrats only.
It's like concluding that trolls exist based on an offhand remark made by Norway's prime minister.
The current "Anonymous Official" channel is very thinly veiled Trump and christian propaganda. I used to watch their videos, but when their political motivations became clear I stopped watching. That guy is NOT part of Anonymous. Just some dude cashing in and pushing his views.
On this press release from April 2017 it seems like they are carving the path for a bigger disclosure:
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-missions-provide-new-insights-into-ocean-worlds-in-our-solar-system
The presence of ample hydrogen in the moon's ocean means that microbes – if any exist there – could use it to obtain energy by combining the hydrogen with carbon dioxide dissolved in the water. This chemical reaction, known as "methanogenesis" because it produces methane as a byproduct, is at the root of the tree of life on Earth, and could even have been critical to the origin of life on our planet.
Go live in Somalia where there isn't a government to tax you, retard.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
The truth is out there ! :)
Admittedly I didn't watch the entire video, but I've seen enough of it to know that Anonymous didn't set out to claim that NASA *currently has* evidence of the existence of alien life. They claimed NASA would soon reveal the evidence, based on the amount of resources poured into finding said evidence.
When the copyright term is "forever minus a day", live every day like it's the last.
Nasa will never tell us about ufo's or aliens, so let me tell you what I seen 6 inches from my window.
This happened in Newtownards Northern Ireland around 20 years ago and I have told very few people about this so listen up.
I was in bed with my wife it was around 730 am, I woke later than usual as I had a day off work.
I woke and looked out the window to see what kind of day I was getting, it was a stunning day, sun no clouds and blue sky's, I didn't notice anything in the sky at this time, my wife was sleeping, I thought I'll let her sleep a bit and I lay there just thinking and planning my day off.
I lay for around 30mins, I thought to myself I'll have a smoke and then wake her, I was looking at her and as I turned to reaching for my cigarettes on the left side of the bed I noticed something in the sky around 5-600 meters out above her , the window was on my right and was uncovered as it wasn't over looked, I paid it no notice and continued reaching for the cigarettes, I roll my own and lay there rolling one, I still hadn't looked out at what I saw but I was thinking about it,
It was just a black dot, I turn and looked at it and it was as if I had startled it, it shot off and left my view due to the window, wow that was strange I thought to myself as I was still thinking about what it was, I lit my cig and as I did an orange(some would say yellow) orb slid in from the left side of the window and just set there 6" from the glass.
As It slide in I thought to myself, this things moving in slow to not scare me(not sure this was me thinking this though) anyway it didn't but I was very aware of it, I can also remember feeling embarrassed about the cigarette and let it drop into the ash tray that was on my lap.
It was an orb around 3 feet wide and was a uniform very light orange with a very light glow. Around the equator there was a fluid plasma type stuff flowing around in opposite directions, this was grey to black depending on the density and moving very slow (1-2 inches a second) there was no sound, I seen no windows doors or anything. as the only thing that stood out was the plasma that's what I was looking at. This stuff seemed to have a mind of its own, as I watched it fingers would come of it and move away from the flow and then claps back to the main flow, two of these fingers didn't though and started to move as if they would touch (I though to myself they're going to touch but I don't think it was me thinking it) it seem to make me watch it and as I watched I felt myself (my mind) being pulled into it and had to force myself to stop.
I was calling my wifes name to wake her but she wouldn't wake, I had to elbow her to get her to wake and as she did the ufo shot back to the left of the window and was gone.
Thinking about it later (years later) I believe this ufo was watching me and when i turned and look at it, it wanted to know how I new it was there and it was using the plasma to find out if I was developing some sort of esp,
This thing was real and I 100% believe Nasa knows way more than they will ever tell us
Regards Steve
I don't mind taxes being used to operate courts and other services that are freely available to every citizen. We all have contracts that need to be enforced.
You assume that I am for lawlessness, but you present this as there is only two mutually exclusive choices, but that is simply not true. I believe you did this in a dishonest attempt to discredit my argument.
I am very much for the rule of law, in addition I am for citizens having a democratic right to choose how public funds are spent and to limit the government's power through limiting its budget. We can easily find hypothetical examples that we universally agree that we should not spend public funds on, and we've already demonstrated we can find situations where we disagree. There is a line where was we find reasonable and what we find unreasonable, I draw my line closer to the side of individual freedom, and you draw your line closer to collectivism. You really have no business painting me as some kind of anarchist in order to justify your extreme views.
They'll say it's not proof of extraterrestrial life, even if they believed it is, just to keep people calm. Only last week, there was a report that astronomers were looking at a distant star and something passed in front of it and momentarily blocked their view of it. It wasn't "natural", because it came back passing the opposite way, which astral bodies can't do, and even changed speed.
I thought alien life was proven to exist years when Dennis Rodman got to be famous?