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Seeking YouTube Fame, A Teenager Kills Her Boyfriend (arstechnica.com)
Last Monday a 19-year-old woman named Monalisa Perez gave the police a strange reason for why her boyfriend, Pedro Ruiz III, was dead. An anonymous reader quotes Ars Technica:
A Minnesota woman has been charged with manslaughter after she shot and killed her boyfriend as part of the pair's attempt to become YouTube celebrities... The two had set up two video cameras to capture Perez firing the gun at Ruiz while he held a book in front of his chest. Ruiz apparently convinced Perez that the book would stop the bullet from a foot away. The gun, a Desert Eagle .50 caliber pistol, was not hindered by the book. Ruiz, who was found with a single gunshot in his chest, was pronounced dead at the scene. Hours before the incident, Perez posted on Twitter, "Me and Pedro are probably going to shoot one of the most dangerous videos ever. HIS idea not MINE."
The teenager -- who is pregnant with the couple's second child -- now faces second-degree manslaughter charges, which carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison, a fine of up to $20,000, or both. A local sheriff told the New York Times, "I really have no idea what they were thinking. I just don't understand the younger generation on trying to get their 15 minutes of fame."
The teenager -- who is pregnant with the couple's second child -- now faces second-degree manslaughter charges, which carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison, a fine of up to $20,000, or both. A local sheriff told the New York Times, "I really have no idea what they were thinking. I just don't understand the younger generation on trying to get their 15 minutes of fame."
Old news, not for nerds, shit that doesn't matter.
Circumcision is child abuse.
Stupidity kills.
They're YouTube famous for all the wrong reasons.
There's a reason books aren't used as body armor. Next time try a BB gun.
Personally, I prefer the older ones.
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They have already reproduce. Thus they are not eligible.
Is it possible that she just murdered him, and made up this "it was his idea" story after the fact?
I just don't understand the younger generation
19-year-old couple, 3 year old daughter, one in the oven - and you expect responsible behaviour on the internet?
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or something bigger than a comic book....
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I hope they do a full investigation and don't take her word for it. Sounds pretty far fetched to me.
This is more blood on the NRA's.
Thin the herd.
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Well if this girl gets put in prison, then maybe the kids will be properly raised by someone who is responsible.
He would be alive today if the Demi,s didn't allow him to stay.
Why is this on /. ?
The Sheriff says he doesn't understand the younger generation's desire for '15 minutes of fame'...THAT wasn't the issue...people have wanted fame in whatever form since well 'forever'...what was really stupid was thinking a book would stop a .50 calibre bullet shot from a Desert Eagle from a foot away...if they had 'done some math', they wouldn't have tried it. Hell, presumably they have the internet since they know all about Youtube, so googling 'penetrating power of a .50 calibre bullet' & 5 minutes of reading/viewing MIGHT have dissuaded them from trying such a stupid gimmick.
So, no it wasn't the 'desire for fame' that was the issue it was 'unable to do math' that was the problem.
All they had to do was to use a BIBLE! This is not rocket science Jesus H Christ!
Well said. Unfortunately you will be modded down for speaking the truth here.
And on Trump's tiny hands. The orange Jesus has done nothing to stop Mexicans from killing each other because he hates them.
I hope they didn't breed.
See subject: This is SERIOUS "Darwin Awards" candidate material - what WAS she/he thinking? Were they THINKING??
* Worst part is, the child has NO FATHER (one of the worst things that can happen to a kid, imo @ least, is that - & barring that, a responsible GOOD one @ that!)
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P.S.=> Unbelievable & how stupidly tragic - & now the "FAME" you were looking for? GONE after "15 minutes" (more like infamy - people ought to REALLY listen to the LATE great David Bowie's tune of the same name, FAME - the media gives you it @ 1st & then makes "mo' money" TEARING YOU APART afterwards (a fool's game to chase imo))... apk
Then they had access to DemolitionRanch. They should know how much shit a 50 cal will go through.
Republicans love it when Mexicans die. That is why they did this.
that makes me think that maybe humanity isn't going in the right direction and makes me reconsider if it's really worth saving. :(
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
After Clinton's assault bullet ban expired, so many more Mexican children are dying.
Installing a proper HOSTS file in that gun would of let them route that fatal bullet elsewhere.
becomes this year's Ice Bucket Challenge, and that every shithead millennial participates.
In this case, I read he tested before hand but perhaps with the book sitting on a hard surface (like concrete) so the shockwave helped stop the bullet.
In youtube videos, you can see that a 50 cal rifle bullet will go through almost 5,000 sheets of paper. This was a 50 cal pistol bullet from what I understand but I don't think one book is going to stop it.
People do dumb things.
And this couple already reproduced so it's not even a successful darwin award- just a terrible stupid tragedy.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
now you're famous.
that licensing guns is the first step to rounding them all up. Personally, if my gov't gets to the point where they're rounding up small arms I'm not going to be able to do much about it. I wouldn't last 5 minutes against a modern military. Hell, even Isis is being whittled down by the rather tepid force we toss at them (they just lost a couple major sources of income, Mosul).
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You thought a 200 pages would stop a 50 cal? I'm no gun nut, but I've listened to enough rap music to know that's not a gun you want to play around with.
He must've been holding the Bible.
I tend to rant.
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This seems like a terrible idea even if books were a great deal more hardback than they actually are: even if the book resists penetration, it doesn't magically annihilate the kinetic energy involved; just spreads it over a somewhat larger area.
Taking ~2,000j to a small rectangular region of your chest(while offering better odds than taking the same amount of energy directly from the bullet) does not sound like a good time. You might just break rib or two; but there's lot of important soft tissue there: heart, lungs, major blood vessels.
Living for the Likes.
Dying for nothing.
Doesn't change the fact that their genes get carried on regardless, which is the whole point of calling it the DARWIN Award.
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Hehehehe, funny!
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
when those two elderly gentlemen ended their careers in Vegas when one was mauled almost to death by their tigers, both were equally responsible for putting both in clearly illegal danger. Did either of them get prosecuted? Of course not. The rule is simple- if it's for 'entertainment' and both parties are adults and both parties 'think' (no matter how foolishly) that the stunt is 'safe', then misfortune is a pure accident with no legal culpability.
We all moan when an obvious and pre-existing idea is given a patent, cos its on a computer. So why does the fact that these 'entertainers' were on youtube or faceback rather than a vegas stage matter? Only a clinton voting wahhabi loving neo-liberal would try to make a distinction between an 'elite' entertainment platform and an entertainment platform by and for the 'common man'.
But the neo-liberal justifies social engineering laws specifically designed to make examples of ordinary people. Orwell spotted this trend when writing in Animal Farm "some animals are more equal than others". This is why neo-liberals proudly vote Clinton for her 'pro-female' and 'pro-gay' rights even tho her rock solid support of Saudi Arabia has ruined the lives of tens of millions of gays and women across the middle east- especially in N Nigeria, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Libya etc.
she won't be producing anymore (maybe)
No, the point of the Darwin Awards is to be morbidly amusing.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
After Clinton's assault bullet ban expired, so many more Mexican children are dying.
After Clinton's assault bullet ban expired, he was no longer in a position to take bribes to renew it.
lucm, indeed.
It teaches a lesson, Don't test in Production ...
"Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way." -- Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
Tiny orange hand covered in Mexican blood, gripping a .50 assault bullet...
That's enough slashdot today.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
Darwin smirks because these two have already spawned an off-spring with another on the way but at least he's capping the "stupid" gene at only two.
Meanwhile, many well-off upper-middle class couples with graduate degrees are holding off until they reach their 30s before having kids because it would be the responsible thing to do.
"Call it a night, Cowboy!"
Pretty sure I'm not retarded, thanks for asking.
Are you capable of reading replies in a discussion in the proper order, though? Because what you're saying after your insult AGREES WITH ME.
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The cycle is about to repeat.
Is it any wonder that as soon as the WWII generation is extinct we are about to repeat their mistakes?
1.WWI 2.Economic fuckery 3.WWII
1.Middle east 2. Economic fuckery 3....(you know the pattern)
Since he's already procreated.
Did you know 80 to 90% of the moderators on slashdot wouldn't recognize a troll even if one dragged them under a bridge.
It is a beautiful thing...
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
How about a basic weapons training as a requisite for getting a permit for hand gun, military school style? And weapon type specific training for each additional weapon? The persons who can't take the gun handling discipline shouldn't touch guns. Might as well bake some newly responsible citizens in the process..
First, you use a freaking blank in the gun for something as inconsequential as a Youtube video. This isn't a Mythbusters tv show.
Second, if it were something more important than a Youtube, then you do a TEST fire first.
Third, you still freaking use a blank. There is no media police checking to see if you used a real bullet.
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They already have a kid or two, and she's pregnant.
I fail to see where I claimed anything about a Darwin Award. Try a couple of posts up.
"I just don't understand the younger generation on trying to get their 15 minutes of fame."
Probably because the previous generation's crafted a media system that promotes people to seek their 15 minutes of fame?
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They got the fame they were after.
That bullet was probably thicker than the fucking book. Not that it would've made them any smarter in my eyes, but did they even try this on a similar sized book to test their stunt? Apparently their family was trying to talk them out of the stunt. I feel really bad for the kid: your mommy is in prison for killing your daddy, but it's ok because it was an accident - yes sometimes it's ok when you kill someone.
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The Bible is like Wikipedia: written by a bunch of people and verifiable by questionable sources.
The round they use in sniper rifles shot from a Desert Eagle at close range. Maybe it was the Bible and he just didn't have enough faith? Come on Lazarus....bring out the snakes! *Tambourine shaking* Thanks for proving the NRA argument: Guns don't kill people, idiots do. My god, if this had happened in the UK, it would be terrorism and they'd ban YouTube and hang the parents for letting their child even know what a gun is. Was that the first time she shot ANYTHING? Dumb ass...I used to think it was unfair to have only men register for the draft, but I think I know why now.
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Superstitious Woman Throws Coins Into Airplane's Engine For Good Luck:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sup...
Though badly planned, this is just a stun went bad. It is like someone trying to walk on a rope without harness and fell. Nothing criminal here. Given that she had posted plan on twitter and camera was setup, it will easily show that this was a planned stun and she meant no harm. She is also pregnant with his child and no other motive means, she will go free, but the memory of this incident will haunt her forever. She needs help and counseling and not prison time.
The story about it I read last week said that he did test it on another book and showed it to her to convince her it was safe.
Which overall speaks for the necessity of being very rigorous during testing.
Yes, paper armor is a thing. (And was a thing in historic China).
Swords blows, and even some (not to high velocity) bullets can be stopped, while the overall armor is extremely light.
(The explanation : the friction with each individual layer of paper slow the weapon a bit. After dozens and dozens of layer, a sword will get stopped. Some bullets might to. I think there might be a Mythbuster episode about this ?)
BUT it's extremely dependant on the exact parameters.
If he did the test with a massive book (some thick dictionary) and some not too powerful pea-shooter (sorry, we're not gun nuts enough on my side of the atlantic pond to have any vague idea what exact type of gun and bullets could get stopped) yeah sure, it might have worked.
If on the D day they decided to use a book with different characteristics (number of page, paper weight, types of cover, etc.) than during the test and if they switched to a different weapon (TFS mentions a Desert Eagle and I think I might remember that these have some power. Again, not gun nut enough to know) that will be enough for the bullet to simply flight through the book almost unencumbered.
Proper procedure would have been :
- run tests with the exact same setup (distance, type of book, type of bullet, type of gun) than the final take
- run SEVERAL tests to confirm that it is reliably reproducible.
(- while you're at it : run the tests with the camera. help you find the correct setup, and gives footage for a decent "making of")
- on the D day, try as much as possible to wear protection (ballistic plate dicretely hidden under the shirt, in case the trick fails ?)
- also best if you have emergency responders ready to intervene if anything goes wrong.
(But that's the difference between a real stunt and a youtube trick by teenagers).
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... at least they won't have any more kids together. What fucking idiots. The world needs less of these fuckwits.
The type of book that's stops a bullet, is the one that tells you not to do this type of shit in the first place.
"Take one of most powerful handguns in the world and shoot it into this book that I'm holding in front of my chest."
What could possibly go wrong?
I fully expect this to become popular as "The Book Challenge" on the YouTube channels of idiots everywhere.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Epic fail! They produced stupid children (as did their parents) and one remains alive to continue to reproduce.
Anybody convicted of felonies should lose their right to procreate (unless they can afford the surgery undone legally.) No, this is not inhumane. We have death penalties and until you stop that you can't say sterilization is inhumane.
Doesn't change the fact that their genes get carried on regardless, which is the whole point of calling it the DARWIN Award.
Exactly, they already had kids so they're ineligible to win.
If your genes have been passed on then it doesn't matter how stupidly or spectacularly you die, you still can't win the Darwin Award.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
This might have worked with a .22
Hey dipshit they are Americans. Now go back to Nazi camp while the grown folks discuss things that matter.
If only he had not made a baby first.
Otherwise her and her kids are on the public dole for the next quarter century.
Hope they keep her locked up and extend her sentence a bit more so she can get her life and her mind straight. If I was related to her, I would ask the judge to keep her locked in there as long as possible.
Gun control would have prevented this.
Guns for Dummies?
Another self removal from the gene pool.
They got their 15 minutes of fame, this story has been covered all over the place.
Unfortunately they were allowed to procreate which not only allows them to pass on their clearly below average intelligence, but now those kids will grow up without a father and a mother that's in jail so not a good start for them.
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Fools ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.
Hitler signed the Weapons Law of 1938 followed shortly after by Jewish gun confiscation, and 7 million Jews were murdered.
Stalin presided over CPSU gun licensure followed shortly after by gun confiscation of all dissidents, and the USSR murdered 20-60 million people, unable to resist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Mao presided over gun licensure followed shortly after by gun confiscation, and tens of millions were murdered by the Mao regime, unable to resist in any meaningful way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
All of the state sponsored mass murders of the last century took place after gun registration and subsequent confiscation. The total body count is over 100,000,000. That is a pretty fucking huge price to pay for giving up guns.
The first step in confiscation is knowing who owns guns. If you don't know who owns a gun, it is essentially impossible to confiscate them. Once you register the guns or "license" the owner, you have a list of who to arrest if they don't show up and surrender their guns when it is time to confiscate them. As gun ownership is a constitutional right, there is no reason to require licensure, although most states require that you obtain a license to concealed carry, which involves both a proficiency test as well as a written test regarding the laws and steps to take in a situation requiring the use of your concealed carry weapon. Those states, not coincidentally, have drastically lower crime/murder rates than the liberal bastions of Chicago, New Orleans etc. where the first amendment is abridged.
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I nominate....
Second?
... to this young woman and her children. Rather than making fun about it and referring to Darwin, you should realise that we are talking about human beings. They made a mistake. One of them is dead, and for the others life will never be the same again. I feel sorry for them, and ashamed for some of the comments on this site.
The summary starts with:
Last Monday ...
Those 2 words right there are a strong hint that this is old news. Ancient. Because even this mom's basement dweller saw the story on social media soon afterwards.
Quoting further from the summary:
... An anonymous reader quotes Ars Technica:
... she shot and killed her boyfriend as part of the pair's attempt to become YouTube celebrities...
You have to admire the way media can spin things. It almost sounds like they wanted to become celebrities for intentionally killing the one.
The gun, a Desert Eagle .50 caliber pistol, was not hindered by the book.
Whoa. Understatement of the century. If a bullet of that sort of caliber could be stopped by something (a very very thick book made of kevlar pages and densely printed in ink containing adamantium, perhaps), it would probably pick up both the book and the person holding the book and smash them to a bluddy pulp on the wall them. Or, if the shooter is such a bad shot that she misses the target and hits the wall, will probably cause the wall to fall over on the intended target and kill it. (And yes, I know most walls in the US are made from cardboard or some such. I'm talking about the first proper brick or stone wall the bullet encounters. Don't people watch movies any more??? You could have learned these lessons in any of a number of recent Hollywood releases.
(OK, I'm exaggerating. But only a bit.)
As to why this is on Slashdot: Well duh, because guns. And liberals.
Frankly, to my mind the balance between liberal gun ownership (and I mean the L word in its original sense) and crime prevention is a delicate one that one won't always get perfect, but that the US gets fairly right - as shown by the prompt response of law enforcement. But then again there might be people thinking it's a good YouTube idea to show off how strong they are by having their friend park a bulldozer on their chest (I'm totally making this up, please don't take this seriously and try at home), yet we don't get calls for stricter bulldozer control.
only place she will become famous is in death row or in an asylum.... My hearth bleeds for her kid and the kid she is carrying... having such moronic parents shpuld not be possible or allowed!
Also, yes, thes is not what I consider "news for nerds, stuf that matters" ..
I have fired one of these. When you are on the range and begin firing one of these, many of the other people will stop to come over and watch the massive cannon going off. Or they stop because they need to move away from the noise that is overwhelming their hearing protection.
.22 caliber pistol which is one step up from a bb gun. It would probably stop it, probably.
These things will punch holes in metal plates. I am not sure there is a paper book in the world that would stop it. I would not be surprised if this could easily go through 3-5 phone books.
For those not familiar with guns, I wouldn't depend on a fairly thick book to stop a
That said, I need to go, there are some crazy people yelling each other and I need to film it for youtube.
A local sheriff told the New York Times, "I really have no idea what they were thinking. I just don't understand the younger generation on trying to get their 15 minutes of fame."
When you grow up with guns all over the place and the attitude that owning them is somehow cool and an obvious, God-given right, and no compulsory education in responsible gun ownership and -handling, is it any surprise that children (including teenagers) become complacent? When I was that age, I too thought it would be exciting to have guns and make explosives and other spectacular stuff - it simply didn't quite occur to me how badly things can go wrong. In this case it did, and now there is a young girl, not just mourning the loss of her boyfriend, but also looking at the prospect of having to live with the fact that she killed him, as well as potentially serving jail time. However, as sad as that is, what really sickens me is seeing the heart- and mindless, callous idiots in the comments laughing and mocking the poor girl. She is probably not the sharpest thinker, all considered, but judging from the comments flowing through here like effluent, neither are you guys, so one day you may well be standing in some situation, where you just did something deeply stupid - and life changing. Look forward to it, and enjoy the laughter.
Ok, let's just forget the basic rule: don't point a gun at someone unless you intend to shoot him dead. Let's also forget all the other stuff that could go wrong, even if the book had stopped the bullet: blast residue getting into the eyes, accidentally firing a second shot after the recoil lifted the gun ...
But at least one should google "book stopping bullet" or something along the line and test the hypothesis that a book stops that bullet without betting ones life on it. Had they done that they'd have known that it couldn't work.
The whole thing is so very, very stupid.
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Yes, that was their point.
If he was 22 and she is 19 that means he was an adult and she was still considered a child when their 3 year old was conceived and born. In many places that can get you arrested. He had to be 21 years old to purchase a handgun according to Federal law. My question is how was he able to get a Desert Eagle .50? I know he can legally own it, but how was he able to obtain such an expensive weapon? I have never seen one sell for under $2000.00 dollars US.
My first though when I read this story was, "Oh no! I hope my 7 year old didn't watch this on YouTube."
Second thought, "Natural selection isn't working. Too bad he procreated before thinning out the heard."
The money from life insurance will help her see that it was all for a good cause and to not mourn, but celebrate what happened.
It would not be difficult to establish that a Desert Eagle .50 caliber bullet would be capable of penetrating a book -- quite a few books, in fact. It is sort of like jumping off a building to demonstrate how well you can fly.
If I for some reason had the stupid idea that a book could stop a .50 bullet at point blank range, I would not test this theory on myself (or any other living thing) first off!
They could still reproduce further. Thus they are eligible.
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Apparently the rules have changed...someone was ranting about this further up the thread.
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To not test before a stunt really why would you not shoot the book first and make sure it stops the bullet before you try it on yourself, especially a 50 cal. roflmao
The most interesting part of the story as the NYT told it, was that they used a "thick" book, and the book was 1.5 inches thick. That's all you need to know about the losers, and about the NYT.
Used to be they had a rifle range in schools. Often in the basement. The late justice Scalia used to carry a gun to his school in NYC. Everyone knew how to shoot and how to properly treat a gun. It would cut violence down a great deal if we all knew about guns. Better yet, we should be able to carry if we want to.
One wonders where Perez obtained a $1500 semi-automatic for this pathetic cry for attention and of course commit murder.
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"a fine of up to $20,000, or both"
OR both? You mean she can just pay 20000$ and serve zero time for killing another human being?
Just like embezzling the money was legal? If it was legal why all the efforts to destroy evidence by spending days deleting emails one by one?
Go get someone with a clue to tell you about it before trying to shove North's own lying version down our throats. He's not just a thief, he's a liar as well - and he's rebuilt the NRA in his image.
Only revisionist lies and an insane fantasy about Israel supporting Hezbolla.
"Scuttlebutt" is somehow superior to a long running legal investigation and court case?
All this evasion and stupidity just so you can fell better about a traitor scuttling your butt.