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Seeking YouTube Fame, A Teenager Kills Her Boyfriend (arstechnica.com)
Last Monday a 19-year-old woman named Monalisa Perez gave the police a strange reason for why her boyfriend, Pedro Ruiz III, was dead. An anonymous reader quotes Ars Technica:
A Minnesota woman has been charged with manslaughter after she shot and killed her boyfriend as part of the pair's attempt to become YouTube celebrities... The two had set up two video cameras to capture Perez firing the gun at Ruiz while he held a book in front of his chest. Ruiz apparently convinced Perez that the book would stop the bullet from a foot away. The gun, a Desert Eagle .50 caliber pistol, was not hindered by the book. Ruiz, who was found with a single gunshot in his chest, was pronounced dead at the scene. Hours before the incident, Perez posted on Twitter, "Me and Pedro are probably going to shoot one of the most dangerous videos ever. HIS idea not MINE."
The teenager -- who is pregnant with the couple's second child -- now faces second-degree manslaughter charges, which carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison, a fine of up to $20,000, or both. A local sheriff told the New York Times, "I really have no idea what they were thinking. I just don't understand the younger generation on trying to get their 15 minutes of fame."
The teenager -- who is pregnant with the couple's second child -- now faces second-degree manslaughter charges, which carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison, a fine of up to $20,000, or both. A local sheriff told the New York Times, "I really have no idea what they were thinking. I just don't understand the younger generation on trying to get their 15 minutes of fame."
Old news, not for nerds, shit that doesn't matter.
Circumcision is child abuse.
Stupidity kills.
They're YouTube famous for all the wrong reasons.
Personally, I prefer the older ones.
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They have already reproduce. Thus they are not eligible.
I just don't understand the younger generation
19-year-old couple, 3 year old daughter, one in the oven - and you expect responsible behaviour on the internet?
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Is it possible that she just murdered him, and made up this "it was his idea" story after the fact?
She posted that it was his idea before the shooting, so unless she has a time machine ...
Why yes, I did read the story. Several brain cells committed suicide after reading something so stupid.
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or something bigger than a comic book....
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I read about this in the news a couple of days ago. She posted a message on social media before the event saying that the boyfriend thought it up. So, it's possible that she was lying about it, but if so, she started lying about it before the fact.
I'm with qbast on this one. I don't know how a couple would pull this off without agreement of some kind. This involved a high level of stupidity.
Thin the herd.
Well if this girl gets put in prison, then maybe the kids will be properly raised by someone who is responsible.
All they had to do was to use a BIBLE! This is not rocket science Jesus H Christ!
I hope they didn't breed.
Then they had access to DemolitionRanch. They should know how much shit a 50 cal will go through.
that makes me think that maybe humanity isn't going in the right direction and makes me reconsider if it's really worth saving. :(
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You do realize that by having children, this couple isn't really Darwin Award material?
I know you didn't read the article, because if you did you'd know they have the whole thing on video. Is there any better evidence??
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that licensing guns is the first step to rounding them all up. Personally, if my gov't gets to the point where they're rounding up small arms I'm not going to be able to do much about it. I wouldn't last 5 minutes against a modern military. Hell, even Isis is being whittled down by the rather tepid force we toss at them (they just lost a couple major sources of income, Mosul).
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No, it was the desire for fame. In their eagerness, it overrode their common sense or sense of caution. They were on an endorphin high from imagining what would happen if they hit 300,000 viewers.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
you can see that a 50 cal rifle bullet will go through almost 5,000 sheets of paper.
This is why I can't stand it when on TV bullets are stopped just by squatting behind a couch. You really think some foam and fabric will stop bullets? :-)
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This seems like a terrible idea even if books were a great deal more hardback than they actually are: even if the book resists penetration, it doesn't magically annihilate the kinetic energy involved; just spreads it over a somewhat larger area.
Taking ~2,000j to a small rectangular region of your chest(while offering better odds than taking the same amount of energy directly from the bullet) does not sound like a good time. You might just break rib or two; but there's lot of important soft tissue there: heart, lungs, major blood vessels.
Indeed. Although if that book had stopped the bullet, fibrillation, broken ribs and as a result, death, would still have been a real possibility.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
Doesn't change the fact that their genes get carried on regardless, which is the whole point of calling it the DARWIN Award.
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Hehehehe, funny!
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I was wondering why they didn't do a test run. Then I figured they only had one book.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
there are many different kinds of .50 caliber rounds, usually caliber refers to diameter. The 50 BMG in those videos is much more powerful then the 500 S&W Magnum which is more powerful than the .50 AE, for example. All will go through any book, of course.
the lowly .22 LR out of a handgun will poke holes in about an inch of paper. Standard 9mm para about 7 inches. Just from that you can tell that any *powerful* handgun cartridge like .44 magnum or whatever will go through a truly *thick* book with energy left over to kill
when those two elderly gentlemen ended their careers in Vegas when one was mauled almost to death by their tigers, both were equally responsible for putting both in clearly illegal danger. Did either of them get prosecuted? Of course not. The rule is simple- if it's for 'entertainment' and both parties are adults and both parties 'think' (no matter how foolishly) that the stunt is 'safe', then misfortune is a pure accident with no legal culpability.
We all moan when an obvious and pre-existing idea is given a patent, cos its on a computer. So why does the fact that these 'entertainers' were on youtube or faceback rather than a vegas stage matter? Only a clinton voting wahhabi loving neo-liberal would try to make a distinction between an 'elite' entertainment platform and an entertainment platform by and for the 'common man'.
But the neo-liberal justifies social engineering laws specifically designed to make examples of ordinary people. Orwell spotted this trend when writing in Animal Farm "some animals are more equal than others". This is why neo-liberals proudly vote Clinton for her 'pro-female' and 'pro-gay' rights even tho her rock solid support of Saudi Arabia has ruined the lives of tens of millions of gays and women across the middle east- especially in N Nigeria, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Libya etc.
This case is particularly unimpressive; but I suspect that the sheriff isn't thinking hard enough about it. Mortality in the late teens to early 20s related to doing really stupid things to impress your peers isn't exactly something that was invented at the same time as smartphone selfies.
"Cars and alcohol", "pointless fights", and "things not to do in flooded quarries" are more common variants than "youtube stunts"; but unless the sheriff's social circle is really small, he probably doesn't even have to imagine; odds are pretty good that someone he went to school with, or was otherwise close enough to have heard about, died while taking really stupid risks for attention. It's not that uncommon.
No, the point of the Darwin Awards is to be morbidly amusing.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
The story about it I read last week said that he did test it on another book and showed it to her to convince her it was safe.
That's why she's not going to prison. They'll drop charges, or she'll get acquitted. He asked to do the stunt, she said no, and he kept trying until he convinced her it was safe. Stupid? Yes. Manslaughter? No, she only did it after he had convinced her it would be OK.
The key thing here is that if they had done the stunt successfully, everything is legal. This is no different than a circus accident at the knife-throwing event.
You just need to watch more Quentin Tarantino movies.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
After Clinton's assault bullet ban expired, so many more Mexican children are dying.
After Clinton's assault bullet ban expired, he was no longer in a position to take bribes to renew it.
lucm, indeed.
It teaches a lesson, Don't test in Production ...
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Tiny orange hand covered in Mexican blood, gripping a .50 assault bullet...
That's enough slashdot today.
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lucm, indeed.
Pretty sure I'm not retarded, thanks for asking.
Are you capable of reading replies in a discussion in the proper order, though? Because what you're saying after your insult AGREES WITH ME.
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This is why I can't stand it when on TV bullets are stopped just by squatting behind a couch. You really think some foam and fabric will stop bullets? :-)
No, the bullets are stopped by the gallons of useless flame-retardant chemicals that furniture are doused in. Polybrominated diphenyl ethers bind with foam and creates a kevlar-like polymer.
lucm, indeed.
Since he's already procreated.
Did you know 80 to 90% of the moderators on slashdot wouldn't recognize a troll even if one dragged them under a bridge.
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Also, according to Hollywood, apparently every window in a house has armor plate below the window sill. They shoot out the window and then duck down below the sill. You'll see bullets flying through the window glass and the walls beside the window, but none penetrate below the window. It's due to the armor plate below the window.
First, you use a freaking blank in the gun for something as inconsequential as a Youtube video. This isn't a Mythbusters tv show.
Second, if it were something more important than a Youtube, then you do a TEST fire first.
Third, you still freaking use a blank. There is no media police checking to see if you used a real bullet.
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Books? no
Paper? yes
MythBusters - Paper Armor? Really?
"I just don't understand the younger generation on trying to get their 15 minutes of fame."
Probably because the previous generation's crafted a media system that promotes people to seek their 15 minutes of fame?
Which is why I said something different than that, and your comment has no point?
She could also have been planning this and made the "his idea" post to bolster her story later.
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That bullet was probably thicker than the fucking book. Not that it would've made them any smarter in my eyes, but did they even try this on a similar sized book to test their stunt? Apparently their family was trying to talk them out of the stunt. I feel really bad for the kid: your mommy is in prison for killing your daddy, but it's ok because it was an accident - yes sometimes it's ok when you kill someone.
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The Bible is like Wikipedia: written by a bunch of people and verifiable by questionable sources.
Assisting suicide is a crime in many places.
And also completely irrelevant to the case at hand.
Or not.
The bullet gives up its momentum to the book. The book slams into the chest, probably not with enough force to break anything though because otherwise you couldn't fire the gun without breaking your wrist.
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The story about it I read last week said that he did test it on another book and showed it to her to convince her it was safe.
The moron did his test with a stack of hardcover books, not realizing that the reason the bullet didn't make it all the way through the 1st book was because the force was transmitted & absorbed by the entire stack.
Unfortunately, he already has one child and another is soon to be born so his stupidity hasn't left the gene pool.
And the headline is completely wrong - it was his idea that he coaxed & pestered her into go along with as both were equally ignorant of physics.
She did NOT kill him seeking fame, he killed HIMSELF, while seeking fame, using her trigger finger.
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
A lot of variables. He clearly didn't test it adequately.
Book thickness, paper type, # of pages, moisture content, cover type.
Plus round type variations. Low velocity, hollow point, unjacketed would likely be the best bet for under penetrating. Practice, won't wear out the gun rounds, not full tilt. Just the kind a kid wouldn't bother buying.
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Momentum does not work like that.
When you fire a hand gun, most of the momentum goes into the gun.
And: you hardly can break a wrist by compressing it from hand into arm, you would need a force that has a big angle to actually break something.
Broken ribs when a bullet hits a bullet proof west are actually quite common.
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Once again, please RTFA. Sheriff has video. It is not being released to the public.
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When does a firearm's "caliber" *not* refer to the inner diameter of the barrel, or external diameter of the bullet?
Otherwise, I agree completely; the amount of propellant matters...
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Even the darwins have become PC. Crotchfruit no longer disqualifies.
They used to have an 'honorable mention' category for just such non-Darwins. But now they qualify, no matter how many went down the chute.
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Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
The story about it I read last week said that he did test it on another book and showed it to her to convince her it was safe.
Which overall speaks for the necessity of being very rigorous during testing.
Yes, paper armor is a thing. (And was a thing in historic China).
Swords blows, and even some (not to high velocity) bullets can be stopped, while the overall armor is extremely light.
(The explanation : the friction with each individual layer of paper slow the weapon a bit. After dozens and dozens of layer, a sword will get stopped. Some bullets might to. I think there might be a Mythbuster episode about this ?)
BUT it's extremely dependant on the exact parameters.
If he did the test with a massive book (some thick dictionary) and some not too powerful pea-shooter (sorry, we're not gun nuts enough on my side of the atlantic pond to have any vague idea what exact type of gun and bullets could get stopped) yeah sure, it might have worked.
If on the D day they decided to use a book with different characteristics (number of page, paper weight, types of cover, etc.) than during the test and if they switched to a different weapon (TFS mentions a Desert Eagle and I think I might remember that these have some power. Again, not gun nut enough to know) that will be enough for the bullet to simply flight through the book almost unencumbered.
Proper procedure would have been :
- run tests with the exact same setup (distance, type of book, type of bullet, type of gun) than the final take
- run SEVERAL tests to confirm that it is reliably reproducible.
(- while you're at it : run the tests with the camera. help you find the correct setup, and gives footage for a decent "making of")
- on the D day, try as much as possible to wear protection (ballistic plate dicretely hidden under the shirt, in case the trick fails ?)
- also best if you have emergency responders ready to intervene if anything goes wrong.
(But that's the difference between a real stunt and a youtube trick by teenagers).
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Thanks, Chekov :-)
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"Take one of most powerful handguns in the world and shoot it into this book that I'm holding in front of my chest."
What could possibly go wrong?
I fully expect this to become popular as "The Book Challenge" on the YouTube channels of idiots everywhere.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
I haven't even listened to rap music to know that. The Desert Eagle is the totally OP handgun in so many shooters I've lost count. Max Payne took it up a notch and let you dualwield Desert Eagles.
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Doesn't change the fact that their genes get carried on regardless, which is the whole point of calling it the DARWIN Award.
Exactly, they already had kids so they're ineligible to win.
If your genes have been passed on then it doesn't matter how stupidly or spectacularly you die, you still can't win the Darwin Award.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Read the rules, moron. It says nothing about having existing offspring. They're right there in the comment you replied to, both quoted and a link to the original. The only epic fail is yours. Too stupid to read before replying ...
Also, why not just remove the death penalty? It costs more than lifetime imprisonment, and 20% of death penalty cases are found to be wrong convictions. Can't undo a lethal injection.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
In this case, I read he tested before hand but perhaps with the book sitting on a hard surface (like concrete) so the shockwave helped stop the bullet.
In youtube videos, you can see that a 50 cal rifle bullet will go through almost 5,000 sheets of paper. This was a 50 cal pistol bullet from what I understand but I don't think one book is going to stop it.
People do dumb things.
And this couple already reproduced so it's not even a successful darwin award- just a terrible stupid tragedy.
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She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
Different round.
You underestimate how much energy a .50AE round carries. IIRC it is around 2000J, or about 4 times a regular 9mm round; pretty much the same (if not higher) as intermediate cartridges such as 5.56mm shot by AR-15s. Even if you're wearing body armor which manages to stop the round completely you will still be injured.
If only he had not made a baby first.
I never use it myself, but I suspect the answer might be sarcasm.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
I don't think the semantic argument about the headline really works, because the root cause in the general sense is a matter of opinion, so can't be corrected. The comma doesn't imply a causal relationship anyways, even if you do want to subject it to that much analysis. And "kills" is very broad, it can be a person with intent, a person without intent, a weapon used, or even a context that "kills" somebody. We could say that he was killed by the credulousness of another.
In the legal sense, obviously it was an "accident" because they both thought it would work, and that stupid belief is all that really matters here.
That he used a stack of books is exactly the sort of idiocy I was expecting, but I haven't seen it reported yet. If true, these people weren't capable even of a karate-chop brick-breaking stunt!
The reason you don't think lack of intent is a defense is twofold; you're not a lawyer, and you're an idiot who is as credulous of your first idea as she was of his idea.
a ".38" (38 special) doesn't refer to either one, it's the brass diameter, the bullet is .357 to .358, and in fact is the old "36 caliber". A "44 magnum" and "44 special" have bullet diameter .429, again it's the brass measurement that is .44"
Plenty of other weird things like that out there for rifles. .303 savage bullet diameter is .308 and is called one of the 30 caliber bullets.
No, he didn't make any claim he just pointed out that your words were irrelevant. The claim that I did make was that she can't be convicted because she lacked intent, because she believed him that it was safe. His consent is irrelevant, but since it was his own safety at question then he being the one who convinced her has increased weight. She knew that he wasn't suicidal, and that he believed they could pull it off. He also had more experience with the weapon than her.
That's how bad your comprehension is, man. And I doubt any of us have "sock puppets," but it does tell us a bit about the other sort of places you hang out.
The book is far too light to do that. Most of the momentum goes into the chest.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
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I'll instead say :
"It took me a while to regain my breath following my perusal of your response."
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If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
She could also have been planning this and made the "his idea" post to bolster her story later.
Nope. They had two different GoPros rolling the whole time and it shows that he clearly was a willing participant in the endeavor.
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A family member posted on Facebook, “He sent me a snapchat shooting a bookshelf of encyclopedias and said lets see how many books it would go through it didn’t make it past the first book but its different if you have 20 books stacked than just 1, dammit man i can’t believe it.”
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
She could of course post that before as a plan and escape route.
But it could also be his idea and if an escape route how come he ended up holding the book in front of him (when she had a gun?)
This exactly. The DA is way overcharging this, and he should get bitch slapped by the judge when the case is dismissed at the preliminary hearing. This is akin to a movie stunt gone wrong. They did do a test fire and saw that the bullet was stopped. They were shooting a large caliber, slow round from a handgun, which can be rapidly slowed/stopped by something like a book. Now if they were firing a 5.56 or 308, that would be a different story.
People die every day from work accidents, and if he was a Youtube stuntman and that was his livelihood, I can't see how this is any different. If I were him, I would have hidden a 1/2" steel plate near the back of the book, just to be safe though... You can always retake a shoot sequence, but you only have one life.
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They got their 15 minutes of fame, this story has been covered all over the place.
Unfortunately they were allowed to procreate which not only allows them to pass on their clearly below average intelligence, but now those kids will grow up without a father and a mother that's in jail so not a good start for them.
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Hitler signed the Weapons Law of 1938 followed shortly after by Jewish gun confiscation, and 7 million Jews were murdered.
Stalin presided over CPSU gun licensure followed shortly after by gun confiscation of all dissidents, and the USSR murdered 20-60 million people, unable to resist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Mao presided over gun licensure followed shortly after by gun confiscation, and tens of millions were murdered by the Mao regime, unable to resist in any meaningful way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
All of the state sponsored mass murders of the last century took place after gun registration and subsequent confiscation. The total body count is over 100,000,000. That is a pretty fucking huge price to pay for giving up guns.
The first step in confiscation is knowing who owns guns. If you don't know who owns a gun, it is essentially impossible to confiscate them. Once you register the guns or "license" the owner, you have a list of who to arrest if they don't show up and surrender their guns when it is time to confiscate them. As gun ownership is a constitutional right, there is no reason to require licensure, although most states require that you obtain a license to concealed carry, which involves both a proficiency test as well as a written test regarding the laws and steps to take in a situation requiring the use of your concealed carry weapon. Those states, not coincidentally, have drastically lower crime/murder rates than the liberal bastions of Chicago, New Orleans etc. where the first amendment is abridged.
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Caliber *always* refers to the diameter of the bullet, unless you are talking shotguns.
The point Iggy was making is key: there are different cartridges that use the same diameter bullet with wildly different energies: 50 cal BMG is around 20,000 Joules of energy at muzzle exit vs. 50 cal Auto which is around 700 Joules of energy at muzzle exit.
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No, there are dozens of factors that play into penetration, and chamber pressure is a key factor. Chamber pressure is directly responsible for virtually every rifle round being able to penetrate police issue kevlar body armor.
With tanks, the armor type, thickness, angle of incidence, penetrator mass, velocity and composition are all key factors.
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This was 50 cal auto, a handgun round with 700 Joules of energy. What you saw was 50 cal BMG, a rifle round that has 20,000 Joules of energy. 50 BMG will put a hole through a phone book and the concrete wall you propped it up against...
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I have fired one of these. When you are on the range and begin firing one of these, many of the other people will stop to come over and watch the massive cannon going off. Or they stop because they need to move away from the noise that is overwhelming their hearing protection.
.22 caliber pistol which is one step up from a bb gun. It would probably stop it, probably.
These things will punch holes in metal plates. I am not sure there is a paper book in the world that would stop it. I would not be surprised if this could easily go through 3-5 phone books.
For those not familiar with guns, I wouldn't depend on a fairly thick book to stop a
That said, I need to go, there are some crazy people yelling each other and I need to film it for youtube.
A local sheriff told the New York Times, "I really have no idea what they were thinking. I just don't understand the younger generation on trying to get their 15 minutes of fame."
When you grow up with guns all over the place and the attitude that owning them is somehow cool and an obvious, God-given right, and no compulsory education in responsible gun ownership and -handling, is it any surprise that children (including teenagers) become complacent? When I was that age, I too thought it would be exciting to have guns and make explosives and other spectacular stuff - it simply didn't quite occur to me how badly things can go wrong. In this case it did, and now there is a young girl, not just mourning the loss of her boyfriend, but also looking at the prospect of having to live with the fact that she killed him, as well as potentially serving jail time. However, as sad as that is, what really sickens me is seeing the heart- and mindless, callous idiots in the comments laughing and mocking the poor girl. She is probably not the sharpest thinker, all considered, but judging from the comments flowing through here like effluent, neither are you guys, so one day you may well be standing in some situation, where you just did something deeply stupid - and life changing. Look forward to it, and enjoy the laughter.
Ok, let's just forget the basic rule: don't point a gun at someone unless you intend to shoot him dead. Let's also forget all the other stuff that could go wrong, even if the book had stopped the bullet: blast residue getting into the eyes, accidentally firing a second shot after the recoil lifted the gun ...
But at least one should google "book stopping bullet" or something along the line and test the hypothesis that a book stops that bullet without betting ones life on it. Had they done that they'd have known that it couldn't work.
The whole thing is so very, very stupid.
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I provided a counterexample.
Your example isn't relevant unless you prove that he consented with the specific goal of ending his life. Which you didn't making your counter example worthless.
There's a reason why accident, suicide, manslaughter, and murder all have legal meanings.
If you're going to have a sockpuppet
Who's a sock-puppet? When you spout something quite stupid in a public forum you can expect multiple people to correct you.
It's a bit of a giveaway when they're both as thick as shit.
The old I've run out of things to say so I'll try and insult everyone trick. I'll sit here waiting* for your example of how what you said was relevant and your justification for my correction making me "thick as shit" as you say.
*No I won't. I got better things to do with my time.
Nineteen, with one kid and another on the way? Is there no end to his stupidity? Well, yeah, he's dead because of it, but it's not like he had much of a future ahead of him. Lots of poverty and sadness narrowly avoided by death.
Yep. When I played Counter-Strike (1.6) the deagle was commonly referred to as the "hand cannon".
It would not be difficult to establish that a Desert Eagle .50 caliber bullet would be capable of penetrating a book -- quite a few books, in fact. It is sort of like jumping off a building to demonstrate how well you can fly.
If I for some reason had the stupid idea that a book could stop a .50 bullet at point blank range, I would not test this theory on myself (or any other living thing) first off!
They could still reproduce further. Thus they are eligible.
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Umm,no. That round moves along at 450+ m/s, depending on exact loading. Quite a bit faster than a 9mm parabellum, and almost twice as fast as a .45ACP....
Plus a bullet that masses about 2.5x that of the parabellum, and 35% or so more than a .45ACP.
"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
Totally irrelevant to the argument I was replying to, which was that she could have made up the tweet after the shooting. As I said, unless she had a time machine, not possible.
It doesn't rule out premeditation, but that's another thing entirely, and honestly, do you think either of these characters is smart enough?
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
50 AE has a muzzle energy of 2000 Joules. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... 50 cal BMG has a muzzle energy of about 20,000 Joules and 1000 m/s or 2x faster with 10x the energy... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
In the world of firearms, most anything from a handgun is slow.
If you disagree, please post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like
See "Tremors II"... Through the graboid, through two buildings, and shattered the engine block of their only escape vehicle.
Used to be they had a rifle range in schools. Often in the basement. The late justice Scalia used to carry a gun to his school in NYC. Everyone knew how to shoot and how to properly treat a gun. It would cut violence down a great deal if we all knew about guns. Better yet, we should be able to carry if we want to.
Tough crowd. What is this the 1900s?
I tend to rant.
So when I want to kill somebody, I just need to type out my defense on Facebook beforehand. Good to know.
I was replying to the poster who wondered if she had made the tweet after the fact. It has nothing to do with whether (to your obviously simplistic way of thinking) it was a possible defense, and it's an insult that anyone would think I'm that stupid. But you're welcome to try the experiment and see if you can get away with murder. I would suggest Florida - with their new education law, nothing of value will be lost.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
One wonders where Perez obtained a $1500 semi-automatic for this pathetic cry for attention and of course commit murder.
“Nobody owns life, but anyone who can pick up a frying pan owns death.” - William S. Burroughs
I can't believe he was stupid enough to do the test worth a different gun or a much different book. A likely mistake was he put the book against a concrete wall. There papers not being able to expand into the space behind the book would have considerably increased their stopping power
no not always bullet diameter, see my comments about .38 special and .44 magnum, in the rifle world there are even more examples of funny naming, throwing in last digits of years and model numbers and whatnot
You are correct, I was mistaken (and should have known better).
If you disagree, please post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like
Just like embezzling the money was legal? If it was legal why all the efforts to destroy evidence by spending days deleting emails one by one?
Go get someone with a clue to tell you about it before trying to shove North's own lying version down our throats. He's not just a thief, he's a liar as well - and he's rebuilt the NRA in his image.
Only revisionist lies and an insane fantasy about Israel supporting Hezbolla.
"Scuttlebutt" is somehow superior to a long running legal investigation and court case?
All this evasion and stupidity just so you can fell better about a traitor scuttling your butt.