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How the NSA Identified Satoshi Nakamoto (medium.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: The 'creator' of Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto, is the world's most elusive billionaire. Very few people outside of the Department of Homeland Security know Satoshi's real name. In fact, DHS will not publicly confirm that even THEY know the billionaire's identity. Satoshi has taken great care to keep his identity secret employing the latest encryption and obfuscation methods in his communications. Despite these efforts (according to my source at the DHS) Satoshi Nakamoto gave investigators the only tool they needed to find him -- his own words. Using stylometry one is able to compare texts to determine authorship of a particular work. Throughout the years Satoshi wrote thousands of posts and emails and most of which are publicly available. According to my source, the NSA was able to the use the 'writer invariant' method of stylometry to compare Satoshi's 'known' writings with trillions of writing samples from people across the globe. By taking Satoshi's texts and finding the 50 most common words, the NSA was able to break down his text into 5,000 word chunks and analyse each to find the frequency of those 50 words. This would result in a unique 50-number identifier for each chunk. The NSA then placed each of these numbers into a 50-dimensional space and flatten them into a plane using principal components analysis. The result is a 'fingerprint' for anything written by Satoshi that could easily be compared to any other writing. The NSA then took bulk emails and texts collected from their mass surveillance efforts. First through PRISM and then through MUSCULAR, the NSA was able to place trillions of writings from more than a billion people in the same plane as Satoshi's writings to find his true identity. The effort took less than a month and resulted in positive match.

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  1. Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So who was Shakespeare?

    1. Re:Great! by XXongo · · Score: 5, Funny

      So who was Shakespeare?

      Say, we could find that out, couldn't we!

      All we have to do is digitize the bulk emails and texts collected from the NSA's mass surveillance of everybody in 16th century England, and compare them to Shakespere's works! Easy.

    2. Re:Great! by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Craig Shakespeare is the manager of Leicester City football club.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    3. Re:Great! by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      Project Gutenberg https://www.gutenberg.org/

    4. Re:Great! by daremonai · · Score: 1

      Describing his own death was a master stroke.

    5. Re:Great! by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      And a hundred other reasons. See the 2012 PBS documentary "Last Will. and Testament".

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      I come here for the love
    6. Re:Great! by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 1

      Or watch this much shorter video on why the anti-Strarfordian argument is bullshit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    7. Re:Great! by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Never looked into this in detail but if you want to convince anyone you should cite it. This sounds like your typical mystery-mongering/anomaly hunting conspiracy stuff. Like Mozart not really writing Mozart's stuff. Yawn.

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      I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
  2. Officially Freaked Out by manlygeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd love to meet Satoshi Nakamoto. He/she/they must be brilliant. But if the NSA can positively identify them it is probable that no one is truly anonymous unless you simply don't ever post email, forum posts, or anything else online. I keep a low profile but it sounds like only cave dwellers and hermits can escape big brother!

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    1. Re:Officially Freaked Out by Nutria · · Score: 2

      It took them a month for the NSA to ferret out one person, and God knows how many man-hours of work in that time.

      Since the NSA doesn't share much with the FBI, I'm not too worried.

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      "I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
    2. Re:Officially Freaked Out by slickwillie · · Score: 1

      I wonder if Satoshi is a US citizen. If so, why does the NSA have all of his communications squirreled away forever?

    3. Re:Officially Freaked Out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'd love to meet Satoshi Nakamoto. He/she/they must be brilliant. But if the NSA can positively identify them it is probable that no one is truly anonymous unless you simply don't ever post email, forum posts, or anything else online. I keep a low profile but it sounds like only cave dwellers and hermits can escape big brother!

      Develop a shifting writing style and you'll be ok.

    4. Re:Officially Freaked Out by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      But if the NSA can positively identify them it is probable that no one is truly anonymous unless you simply don't ever post email, forum posts, or anything else online.

      Just learn different writing styles for your trolling.

    5. Re:Officially Freaked Out by r2rknot · · Score: 1

      Or, in addition to cryptography, you employee a means to 'encode' your words into a different writing style. Then use your normal speaking for everything else public.

      --
      "...whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive...it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it..."
    6. Re:Officially Freaked Out by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      I'd love to meet Satoshi Nakamoto. He/she/they must be brilliant. But if the NSA can positively identify them it is probable that no one is truly anonymous unless you simply don't ever post email, forum posts, or anything else online. I keep a low profile but it sounds like only cave dwellers and hermits can escape big brother!

      For now it's too intensive a process for them to figure out everyone anonymous. 10 years from now it may only take them 5 minutes.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    7. Re:Officially Freaked Out by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Develop a shifting writing style and you'll be ok.

      I wonder if you could do something like deliberately write in simple sentences; run everything through Google Translate to another language and then run that translation back to English.

      That should anonymise you a little.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    8. Re:Officially Freaked Out by Baloroth · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or since you're the only person whose writing in barely or totally incomprehensible gibberish, make you super easy to identify. That's a problem with most anonymization methods: unless everyone else is using those same methods, you actually make yourself stand out.

      Relevant XKCD

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      "None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." --John Milton
    9. Re:Officially Freaked Out by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      that no one is truly anonymous unless you simply don't ever post email, forum posts, or anything else online.

      Write in simple English and run it through a translator. Chain a few together.

    10. Re:Officially Freaked Out by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      Or since you're the only person whose writing in barely or totally incomprehensible gibberish, make you super easy to identify. That's a problem with most anonymization methods: unless everyone else is using those same methods, you actually make yourself stand out.

      Relevant XKCD

      I wouldn't go through all that trouble in my daily personal e-mail. Only in the anonymous stuff.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    11. Re:Officially Freaked Out by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      It took them a month for the NSA to ferret out one person, and God knows how many man-hours of work in that time.

      Since the NSA doesn't share much with the FBI, I'm not too worried.

      Sure, but now they have the code written and tested it will be much faster for the next one.

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      No sig today...
    12. Re:Officially Freaked Out by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      You assume they didn't have the code for this already. I've heard of similar tools being available for years now. The only way to escape is to stay in the dark. But still it took them one month of effort to determine his identity so the process isn't exactly cheap.

    13. Re:Officially Freaked Out by Megol · · Score: 1

      Should I respond to what you wrote? You wondering have nothing to do with NSA "squirreling" anything. It is completely unrelated.

      But perhaps the intended meaning is more deserving of an answer? If NSA have stored the communication before the identity of the individual is known it is probably legal and correct to keep it stored. But you are assuming that they would keep the communication data even if the individual is known to be an US citizen - why are you assuming that to be the case? Speculation upon speculation without real world feedback rarely produces anything worthwhile.

    14. Re:Officially Freaked Out by Megol · · Score: 1

      You don't realize how but metadata a single sentence provides. It is almost impossible to remove it all and trying to do it is a pain in the ass. If one try to do it manually (or reading the resulting massaged text before sending it) there will most likely be leaking of the anonymous writing style into ones ordinary writing etc.

      The best way is probably learning some unusual (compared to ones native tongue) language, only using that language when wanting to post anonymously and doing machine translation on top of that. But that requires one to never letting quirks/phrasing/analogies from that other language creep into non-anonymous posts.

    15. Re:Officially Freaked Out by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      This technique is called stylometry, and it's been applied with mixed success elsewhere. For example, "a check of his method, applied to the works of James Joyce, gave the result that Ulysses, Joyce's multi-perspective, multi-style masterpiece, was written by five separate individuals; none of whom had any part in the crafting of Joyce's first novel." So it should be used skeptically.

      I had a classmate who did work in this field, including not just word frequency, but also including simple grammatical structures. I find it extremely unlikely that the NSA found anything with merely word frequency. If they really did this, then they probable invented techniques no one else has used before. Otherwise someone else should be able to repeat the results, too.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    16. Re:Officially Freaked Out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nice try. As soon as you transmit the original text to Google Translate, the NSA has you.

    17. Re:Officially Freaked Out by retchdog · · Score: 1

      "a check of his method, applied to the works of James Joyce, gave the result that Ulysses, Joyce's multi-perspective, multi-style masterpiece, was written by five separate individuals; none of whom had any part in the crafting of Joyce's first novel."

      idk, that's the sort of corner case where a failure actually increases credibility. it would be downright suspicious if it identified Joyce distinctly. :)

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      "They were pure niggers." – Noam Chomsky
    18. Re:Officially Freaked Out by rwyoder · · Score: 2

      Or since you're the only person whose writing in barely or totally incomprehensible gibberish, make you super easy to identify.

      But also easy to confuse with POTUS.

    19. Re:Officially Freaked Out by careysub · · Score: 1

      I'm betting much less effort will be required for person number two. The research is done.

      And once the technique is demonstrated improvements will be made.

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      Starships were meant to fly, Hands up and touch the sky - Nicky Minaj
    20. Re:Officially Freaked Out by careysub · · Score: 1

      Probably only an automated tool that is built on knowledge of stylometry to eradicate signatures would work.

      Hey! Someone should get to work on this! (But maybe do it secretly and release it anonymously to minimize blow-back risks.

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      Starships were meant to fly, Hands up and touch the sky - Nicky Minaj
    21. Re:Officially Freaked Out by Anubis+IV · · Score: 2

      There's a distinction here that you may have missed: the xkcd crooks never had anonymity, whereas the hypothetical Google Translate user does.

      The crooks gave up their anonymity the moment they registered for a license plate using their real identity. Having tied their real identity to their pseudonym, they pierced the veil of anonymity, meaning that, they weren't counting on anonymity to protect their identity. Rather, they were counting on the illegibility of their pseudonym to somehow make it unrecognizable, preventing its relationship to their real identity from being looked up. As you pointed out, those sorts of schemes rarely pan out.

      But in the case of the Google Translate user, they still have their anonymity. They never pierced the veil, so, unlike the crooks, they're still counting on the veil to protect them. In fact, this hypothetical person could make the pseudonym as distinct, recognizable, and identifiable as they please, so long as none of those traits in any way tie back to their real identity. In many cases, those traits may actually help to strengthen the veil by putting more distance between the pseudonym and the real identity.

      Where things may sour is if those steps end up also being a means for piercing the veil. For instance, the police may be able to subpoena Google Translate's records to procure information on the users asking to translate specific phrases. In that sort of situation, being the lone person translating things in that way can indeed get you into trouble, as you suggested.

      Even so, the notion to speak in a distinct form of gibberish isn't a bad one, provided you go about doing so in a way that doesn't open you up otherwise.

    22. Re:Officially Freaked Out by infolation · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sadia Afroz is the main public-sector researcher on this topic (stylometric machine learning).

      She gave a relevant introduction in 2013 stylometric analysis to track anonymous users in the underground and the corresponding video regarding darknet user tracking through stylometry.

      She commented a while ago "Please do not ask me to deanonymize Satoshi." and gave reasons.

    23. Re:Officially Freaked Out by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 1

      since you're the only person whose writing in barely or totally incomprehensible gibberish

      You're new here, aren't you?

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      That that is is that that that that is not is not.
    24. Re:Officially Freaked Out by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      I...I....am.....Kirk.
       
      No.....I.....I am.....Kirk.
       
      No I......I am....I am Kirk.....
       
      No I....

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    25. Re:Officially Freaked Out by geekymachoman · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they could identify texts from a pseudonym "Satoshi", who gives a fuck ? The point is not to link your "Satoshi" identity to your public profile, if you write normally using your public profile, but obfuscate a bit through your anonymous profile, this method would fail.

    26. Re: Officially Freaked Out by Jesus+H+Rolle · · Score: 1

      Just learn different writing styles for your trolling.

      I misuse apostrophes' and semicolons to hide my identity; while trolling. Theirs' also there/their and to/too/two to.

    27. Re:Officially Freaked Out by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      The (docu-)drama "Manhunt: UNABOMBER" is interesting, as a major plot point is that one FBI agent did that kind of stylometric analysis of the writings.

    28. Re:Officially Freaked Out by n329619 · · Score: 2

      person whose writing in barely or totally incomprehensible gibberish, make you super easy to identify.

      Last time I gave my friend a full list of comments from here. My friend said, "it's from slashdot, isn't it?" I said, "how did you know?". My friend then said, "they are all incomprehensible gibberish that I don't understand".

      Maybe it's a slashdotter thing, but I'm proud of it.

    29. Re:Officially Freaked Out by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

      From now on, I will have a program replace every one of my words with a synonym before posting.

    30. Re:Officially Freaked Out by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

      Not just new here, new to the internet.

    31. Re: Officially Freaked Out by guruevi · · Score: 1

      From the write up it seems like the second a piece of text goes over the wire (and unless you use a service with self-signed certs you can assume most US-based SSL is broken) the NSA picks it up. So in your case NSA would still have the original writing.

      The only thing to do is use a different ghostwriter for every piece of text you send out. Perhaps you can write a simple AI that does this for you, you give it a piece of input and it rewrites it based on others' writing styles.

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    32. Re:Officially Freaked Out by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      I wonder if you could (A), (B), and then (C)

      That should anonymise you a little.

      Except to Google, and hey: what do they know?

      --
      If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
    33. Re:Officially Freaked Out by piojo · · Score: 2

      In the process, they created a fingerprint of hundreds of thousands of other people for this search, so they now already have the database to compare new anonymous people to.

      Not quite. The fingerprint was based on Nakamoto's 50 most common words. You might say they created a fingerprint for every person in "Nakamoto space", but the fingerprint can't be reused to search for a person with a different set of common words. (It could, but the range would be too low--everybody would end up looking too similar.) I think you're right about them intending to reuse this technique in the future, though.

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      A cat can't teach a dog to bark.
    34. Re:Officially Freaked Out by HyperQuantum · · Score: 1

      Yup.

      See also the interesting number paradox. If there is a collection of numbers you can define as non-interesting, because they lack any properties you consider useful or interesting, then being in that collection makes them special in some way, so they aren't really non-interesting anymore.

      In the same way, taking extreme measures to make your writings lack any distinctive properties will make them stand out.

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      I am not really here right now.
    35. Re:Officially Freaked Out by wbr1 · · Score: 1

      Just run all your public missives through an article rewriting tool or two. Yes, some meaning will be lost, but it is sure to confuse any styleometric system. As an example I will take this paragraph and run it through two different rewriters twice.

      Sample 1 (http://articlerewritertool.com/ and http://paraphrasing-tool.com/)
      Basically run all your open messages through an article reconsidering instrument or two. Genuinely, some significance will be lost, nonetheless it is sure to bewilder any styleometric system. For example I will take this entry and run it through two unmistakable rewriters twice.

      Sample 2(https://spinbot.com/ and https://smallseotools.com/arti...)
      Simply run all of your open letters through an editorial modifying device or 2. Indeed, some significance are going to be lost, nonetheless it's sure to confound any styleometric framework. for example i'll take this passage and run it through 2 distinct rewriters doubly.

      Just beware that most of these sites are bad ad landmine fields and will not work with an ad blocker. I guess that is mainly because they are used by SEO blog spamming shitheads and college students looking to make a quick paper.

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    36. Re:Officially Freaked Out by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Which I seem to recall specifically raising as a concern when I said...

      the police may be able to subpoena Google Translate's records to procure information on the users asking to translate specific phrases

    37. Re:Officially Freaked Out by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      Sadia Afroz is the main public-sector researcher on this topic (stylometric machine learning).

      She gave a relevant introduction in 2013
      stylometric analysis to track anonymous users in the underground and the corresponding video regarding darknet user tracking through stylometry.

      She commented a while ago "Please do not ask me to deanonymize Satoshi." and gave reasons.

      I bet you the POTUS has a unique style and only grade 8 students and below write at the same level.

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      Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
    38. Re:Officially Freaked Out by Raenex · · Score: 2

      Actually, the major plot point was that the Unabomber's brother recognized his writing style and fingered him to the FBI. Without that, they probably never would have caught him.

    39. Re: Officially Freaked Out by denis.goddard · · Score: 1

      Thank you for the video link. Interesting research

  3. Sources for the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    According to the author - ME.

    Sounds truthy enough.

  4. Grammarly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's beneficial that I exercise Grammarly. Straight away those concerned with distinguishing me, will undergo unhingement.

  5. Nice Warrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Nice warrant they used there. View EVERYONES email because everyone is a suspect.

    Now, lets hear from the liberals telling me I need to pay more taxes for crap like this. After all, I do like to use roads, police, and NSA spying on everything everyone writes ever.

    1. Re:Nice Warrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      and NSA spying on everything everyone writes ever.

      But it keeps everyone safe from terrorists (except people who run the Boston Marathon)! The NSA would never do anything corrupt like mass collect the communications of every US Senator, Representative, and world politician and use AI algorithms to find juicy blackmail.

    2. Re: Nice Warrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      *Do you enjoy terrorism?*

      This IS terrorism.

    3. Re:Nice Warrent by XXongo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now, lets hear from the liberals telling me I need to pay more taxes for crap like this. After all, I do like to use roads, police, and NSA spying on everything everyone writes ever.

      I'm not sure what the word "liberals" is doing here. In general, the liberals have been rather vocal in their dislike and distrust of the NSA, CIA, and other TLAs. The support for these has been mostly been voices on the right saying "we need more tools to keep America secure!"

      As for the "more taxes" quip, in general government spending goes up under Republican administrations, and is constant or even down under Democratic administrations. (It was the Bush administration, remember, that coined the phrase "deficits don't matter.")

    4. Re:Nice Warrent by fibonacci8 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      liberals = tax and spend conservatives = tax cut and spend see the difference?

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    5. Re: Nice Warrent by Falos · · Score: 1

      You can shove your whole "bcus terrorism" right up your ass. Of all the bullshit cudgels, it's the most exploited. Worst infocalypse horseman.

      Go buy a tiger rock.

    6. Re:Nice Warrent by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Nah, Dianne Feinstein has been stalwart in her defense of surveillance. It's not really a partisan issue, there are those who support it and oppose in both parties.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    7. Re:Nice Warrent by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      According to TFS, the NSA used publicly available material, so no warrant was needed. This is similar to saying that police looking at everone's face to match with wanted posters requires a warrant.

      I'm not happy about what's happening with privacy, and we need some changes to reflect modern capabilities that differ in kind from the capabilities that existed from the writing of the Constitution up to my childhood. That, however, is another issue.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  6. According to my source at the DHS by linuxguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    An anonymous reader shares a report... "according to my source at the DHS..."

    Well, I am not anonymous and my source at DHS says that these claims are BS. Who is more credible?

    In 2014 Newsweek was pretty damn sure they had the right Satoshi and dragged a poor soul through hell and back because of their "beliefs". Can we give this topic a rest, until we know for sure and for real? None of this anonymous reporter citing anonymous sources at DHS crap.

    1. Re: According to my source at the DHS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Of course it's bullshit. They're still referring to him by his alias. This will never be news until they put out his name.

    2. Re:According to my source at the DHS by admin7087 · · Score: 1

      The original story sounds very credible to me.

    3. Re:According to my source at the DHS by VAXcat · · Score: 1

      Their source is the guy in this picture. Sounds legit to me. https://regardingarts.com/film...

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      There is no God, and Dirac is his prophet.
    4. Re: According to my source at the DHS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You know what would freak him out?
      Seeing his real name in a headline.
      Seeing his alias yet again...he's not even flinching.

    5. Re:According to my source at the DHS by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Seems improbable to me too for the simple reason that the most likely Nakamoto is actually a group of people, which would explain a number of well documented oddities such as frequent switching between British and American spelling, and other unusual aspects of Nakamoto's life. That makes me doubt the entire NSA thing.

      Part of me really wants to believe that one member of the group was really Craig Wright, partially because it'd upset a sizable amount of the Bitcoin community, and partially because he does fit the profile of what I'd suggest was the leadership of the group. I'm not going to make that bet though.

      (Of course the perfect answer would be if it were Wright, Finney, and... Dorian Nakamoto. That'd be glorious.)

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      You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
    6. Re:According to my source at the DHS by Ultra64 · · Score: 2

      >Well, I am not anonymous

      Do you really think using the username 'linuxguy' is that different?

      Nobody knows who you are, you are as good as anonymous.

    7. Re:According to my source at the DHS by ancientt · · Score: 2

      I wonder if was created by a group of people working for the NSA. The kind of people who would be able to come up with something like bitcoin and successfully spread the idea overlap pretty heavily with the kind of people recruited by the three letter agencies. Its not hard to imagine a think tank deciding to come up with something that could be used for illegal activity in order to track that activity.

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    8. Re:According to my source at the DHS by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 1

      <Movie Plot>The stated purpose to their boss was to be able to track all the illegal transactions out there by controlling the currency and making it one with perfect tracking capabilities. The real purpose is that they all plan to cash out their original stash of coins, split the money and disappear.</Movie Plot>

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  7. So He Could Sue... by Luthair · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the NSA, I recall lawsuits after the Snowden releases were kicked out of court because they couldn't show they had standing. Apparently Satoshi Nakamoto can show he has standing because the NSA has copies of his emails.

    1. Re:So He Could Sue... by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Is Satoshi Nakamoto known to be an American citizen?

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      "I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
    2. Re:So He Could Sue... by Luthair · · Score: 1

      Good point.

    3. Re:So He Could Sue... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Jewel vs NSA was filled on 18 Sept 2008, long before Snowden's document release in June 2013. The case was dismissed in Jan 2010 because the plaintiff lacked legal standing, but that decision was successfully appealed after the Snowden release. In fact, it is the Snowden release that documents that EVERY US CITIZEN has standing in Jewel vs NSA.

      The case has since been dismissed (in 2015) as persuing it in the courts would reveal state secrets.

      Remember kids, Obama didn't tap Trump's wires, He tapped EVERYONE's wires.

    4. Re:So He Could Sue... by Nutria · · Score: 1

      For that suit to even have a ghost of a chance of being successful, there would have to be a law stating that the US can't spy on foreigners (especially if they're on foreign soil).

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      "I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
    5. Re:So He Could Sue... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      What could Satoshi sue for? The NSA read all his publicly available writings? Why would that be illegal? Jewel vs. NSA was based on the NSA reading private communications, so it doesn't apply here.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    6. Re:So He Could Sue... by Luthair · · Score: 1

      Pointing at Obama is disingenuous, Bush started the policy of spying on everyone, Obama continued it, and Trump is currently running it.

  8. don't worry... by jm007 · · Score: 1

    no big deal, it's just meta-data, not much to be had from that; no, we don't collect data en masse; no no, that's not piss on your back, it's rain

    if this were true, and the guy was a US citizen not under suspicion or any other legally obtained need, is that a crime? does the Constitution have any meaning to these people?

    1. Re:don't worry... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      I should point out that the data used would not be classified as metadata.

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  9. [Citation needed] by daveschroeder · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Subject says it all.

    (And yes, I read the paragraph saying there are no sources, as if this somehow represents original research.)

  10. Anonymity is Dead by Howitzer86 · · Score: 1

    I can't help but be impressed though.

  11. Re: Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Canadian money doesn't have the most powerful government and military on earth and yet we all live daily with it. Most places will also accept american dollars but won't even give you any exchange rate for it.

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  12. you will hate me but it'll be in your head all day by OutOnARock · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...will the real Satoshi please stand up
    please stand up
    please stand up

    ....ducks!......

  13. in other words.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    they used illegally-gathered data.

    1. Re:in other words.. by gsslay · · Score: 1

      Not only illegally gather data, but in an investigation of someone who has committed no crime.

    2. Re:in other words.. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      WTF is illegal about gathering publicly available writings?

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  14. Re:Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by supremebob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There aren't many people crazy enough to pay over $4,000 each for Monopoly dollars, though.

    Like it or not, any item (even Bitcoin) is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Whether or not it will still be worth $4,000 a year from now it anyone's guess at this point. It could become the next Mastercard, or the various world governments might outlaw the currency and start prosecuting enough users to make it's value plummet.

    Personally, the lack of certainty either way is enough to make me stay away at this point.

  15. Why bother ? by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

    You can learn everything you want to know by reading the source code of the bitcoin nodes. Knowing the identity of the guy who wrote the first version doesn't really add anything.

    1. Re:Why bother ? by caseih · · Score: 1

      Ahh but see you're mistaken. What the NSA really wants is the original bitcoin(s) which are now worth millions. Other than the
      theoretical wealth of his original bitcoins, you're absolutely correct. There's no reason the NSA would ever need to know the identity of the original author as he's broken no laws and done nothing wrong and everything he wrote in software is available for scrutiny. He's just fabulously rich, albeit on paper only. And furthermore bitcoin is not anonymous at all, so the moment he tried to use his original bitcoins and trade them for real money he'd be identified immediately. So either it's all about wealth or the NSA is just on a power trip and decided to test their illegal tools identifying a prolific but elusive person.

    2. Re:Why bother ? by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

      I would expect him to throw away his private keys, to guarantee they would never fall in the wrong hands. And then maybe mine some new coins anonymously.

    3. Re:Why bother ? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      Supply/Demand Problems with your analysis.

      If the supply of BitCoin in active circulation ever increased with the amount SN is supposed to have (guestimates) I would crash the market in no time flat.

      Then there is the problem of "I don't remember where I put them" or "I forgot my key" or "I lost the wallet" or ... any number of excuses he might have. And until he actually uses the BitCoins, they are unrealized gains and the government can't really touch them.

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  16. The right to be private.. by sqorbit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doesn't this person deserve the right not to have their identity known? They have not (as far I as I know) committed a crime or being investigated for a criminal act. I'm sure the motivation behind remaining anonymous is for his own safety and well being. If someone has not released their identity on purpose, and even more so gone to lengths to keep it private why is anyone trying to find out who he is. Sure there's an interest level there. There's quite possibly a lot to learn, but at what cost? I know most of these points are completely obvious and the answers are also unfortunately obvious, but it needs to be said anyway.

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    1. Re:The right to be private.. by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Doesn't this person deserve the right not to have their identity known? They have not (as far I as I know) committed a crime or being investigated for a criminal act.

      Do they deserve privacy? Absolutely.

      Is it to be expected? No. It's not hard to see strategic value for an intelligence agency to know who created and has influence over what has become an increasing important economic exchange. They might be interested too if he HAD done anything wrong, if he were really involved in some black market transfers and that was his motivation behind creating the bitcoin. (no evidence of that so shouldn't invade his privacy... but easy to see why agencies would).

      No one deserves to be violated by intelligence communities without having done wrong, but we all know it's going to happen.

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    2. Re:The right to be private.. by chispito · · Score: 1

      Doesn't this person deserve the right not to have their identity known?

      Doing very public things anonymously is a funny definition of privacy.

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    3. Re:The right to be private.. by Ichijo · · Score: 1

      Sure, but he left his fingerprint all over the public Internet. At some point a person needs to take responsibility for their own anonymity.

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    4. Re:The right to be private.. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure any billionaire deserves the right to be anonymous. When you accumulate that much power, knowing who you are seems important.

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    5. Re:The right to be private.. by houghi · · Score: 1

      I understand this site is a dicussion platform and I enjoy discussing SF and Fantasy as much as the ext guy, but please keep this relevant.
      Oh, you thought any rights where real? I have some bad news for you.

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  17. Why? by PPH · · Score: 1

    Why identify Satoshi Nakamoto? Wouldn't it be of more use to identify the users of Bitcoin?

    On the other hand, public knowledge (at some point) of Satoshi's identity could serve to protect him against pressure or retribution from the TLAs. If he or his associates can prove his identity, the gov't or banks can't very well engineer his disappearance.

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    1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Helping plebs dodge income taxes is SERIOUS BUSINESS.

    2. Re:Why? by PPH · · Score: 5, Insightful

      violated Satoshi's and a billion other people's privacy

      They violated Satoshi's privacy just for the practice. They violated a billion other's privacy to build a baseline corpus to tune their search application.

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      Have gnu, will travel.
    3. Re:Why? by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Is Satoshi Nakamoto suspected of a crime? Is he or she a threat to national security?

      One of the theories regarding Bitcoin is that it is an effort by a national actor to crash other nation's economies.

    4. Re:Why? by Namarrgon · · Score: 1

      Indeed; creators of fundamentally important technologies are always of interest. As a similar example, if a new and promising encryption technique might get widely adopted, wouldn't you prefer to know exactly where it came from?

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    5. Re:Why? by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 1

      Is Satoshi Nakamoto suspected of a crime? Is he or she a threat to national security?
      The NSA has expended all this effort and violated Satoshi's and a billion other people's privacy for.... what? Shits and giggles?

      You know, when I mentioned this to coworkers, whom are not technical, that was their question too. Why? What did he do?

      Exist, apparently. Guess that's a crime too.

    6. Re:Why? by budsetr · · Score: 1

      He is suspected of encrypting stuff. That's like a hate crime to the NSA.

    7. Re:Why? by Gussington · · Score: 2

      Is Satoshi Nakamoto suspected of a crime? Is he or she a threat to national security? The NSA has expended all this effort and violated Satoshi's and a billion other people's privacy for.... what? Shits and giggles?

      For national security obviously. You might not agree, but information is power, and our security agencies are charged with maintaining position of power. Or do you think all decisions around national security should be held by popular vote instead?

    8. Re:Why? by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      **THIS**

      IF they actually found him, I think the did it simply for the practice. "If we can find HIM, we can find ANYONE". Plus, they can talk to the guy (or gal), "make them an offer they can't refuse", and also verify that it actually IS the guy(s) they're searching for and not just some lame wanna-be. (Yes! My name *is* Natsu Dragneel Nakamoto. Wait -- where are you going? Did I say something wrong?)

      That is, if they've actually done it. I wouldn't put it past the nebulous governmental "them" to do it -- to show that they CAN, and to verify with 100% certainty they've got the right person and not am impostor.

      What better demo to give than to provability decode block 1 -- I'm sure even CongressCritters have heard of BitCoin, if just from their grandsons.

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  18. Mass surveillance used to outrage us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Now its being openly used for trivial shit like identifying someone who wrote software that is in no way illegal.
    Illegally gather the data, use it to identify random people online that have done nothing wrong but are interesting to you.. IS EXACTLY WHY MASS SURVEILLANCE ISN'T OK

  19. Re:BS by buchner.johannes · · Score: 1

    Exactly -- what is the false-positive rate of this approach?

    If you throw trillions of data sets compacted into a 50-d cube, sure you will find some in the neighbourhood of your target. Probably it is not just one person, but many thousands.
    Both machine learning and mass surveillance have to be gauged by the false positive rates, the false negative rates and cost (monetary and otherwise).

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  20. Dogecoin! by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dogecoin to the moon! Dogecoin will be valued at over two dollars before the end of the year.

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  21. We were warned by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of the early days (mid 1990's) of PGP, when there was a now obviously ineffective campaign to encourage everyone to put their emails into the 'encryption envelope.'

    We didn't listen. Now this is possible.

  22. Why? by tomthepom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is Satoshi Nakamoto suspected of a crime? Is he or she a threat to national security?
    The NSA has expended all this effort and violated Satoshi's and a billion other people's privacy for.... what? Shits and giggles?

  23. Re:How to stay anonymous by PPH · · Score: 1

    There are applications that can 'Roget' written material. Google 'sinister buttocks'.

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  24. Doesn't pass the sniff test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A quick sanity check, suggests the story as submitted isn't true, if Satoshi Nakamoto used encryption all the time, the first port of call would be to filter for people using encryption. Then by links to others known to be involved in Bitcoin. i.e. you wouldn't use stylometry which is known to be limited.

    So what is the story here?

    AC submitter is trying to sell his phrenology technology, erm I mean stylometry technology? That could be it.

    Or prehaps he's trying to plant the 'NSA bulk search of text using stylometry' idea in peoples head. i.e. that NSA gets all the *contents* of everyone emails and bulk searches those. Something it would have to fight a lot of companies to do. But then if it had the contents, why wouldn't it search for discussions on bitcoin algos?

    So no, I don't think the story rings true.

    "But why? Why go to so much trouble to identify Satoshi? My source tells me that the Obama administration was concerned that Satoshi was an agent of Russia or China—that Bitcoin might be weaponized against us in the future. "

    Yeh, unlikely plot, given its open source you could just check the code.

  25. Re:BS by suutar · · Score: 2, Informative

    in a 50d space, "trillions" is still going to be fairly wide spread. assuming your axes all go from 0 to 1 and that's it, and you avoid fractions, you've still got 2^50 nodes, which is on the order of a quadrillion, or 1000 nodes per text block.

    Sure, there's likely to be clustering, but it's not quite as inevitable as you're assuming from just the number of data sets.

  26. Just like the Unabomber by al0ha · · Score: 1

    Nothing new here folks, same method was used to nail Ted Kaczynski - of course it was much more difficult back then so a far greater accomplishment.

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    1. Re:Just like the Unabomber by slew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nothing new here folks, same method was used to nail Ted Kaczynski - of course it was much more difficult back then so a far greater accomplishment.

      Actually, I think David Kaczynski simply turned in his brother after reading his manifesto and recognizing his brother's writing style...

      If you want call that the same method, well, I guess you are entitled, but that probably implies that Satoshi's brother works for the NSA... If that were true, I think the NSA creating bitcoin would be a far greater accomplishment than nabbing Ted...

    2. Re:Just like the Unabomber by al0ha · · Score: 2

      David's wife recognized the writing; only after an FBI profiler and a scientist in the budding field did all the grunt work and learned to tie all the bits of evidence together, letters, etc.; then decided to publish the manifesto. They knew who it was through the same techniques, they only needed a name.

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    3. Re:Just like the Unabomber by al0ha · · Score: 1

      Link on PBS to back up everything I say about this... http://www.pbs.org/opb/history...

      Now mod me 5 insightful please, the original reply to my post which is completely incorrect was modded 4 insightful - friggin' /.

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    4. Re:Just like the Unabomber by gr8dude · · Score: 1

      The same method?

      His brother contacted the police, telling them that the manifesto is something that reminds him of his brother's style. The methods are different, there's no mass surveillance in Kaczynski's case.

    5. Re:Just like the Unabomber by xbytor · · Score: 1

      >Actually, I think David Kaczynski simply turned in his brother after reading his manifesto and recognizing his brother's writing style...

      Actually, David's wife read it, thought it sounded like Ted's rantings, and told David to take a look. He eventually got in contact with the FBI.

      The FBI apparently had developed a linguistic profile and amassed tons of evidence. But in this case, it was David and his wife that cracked the case. The FBI had all of that evidence but no suspects.

  27. This is ok by Headw1nd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm sure there will be loads of posts here denouncing the NSA for this, because it is in fact creepy and invasive. However, this kind of thing is *exactly* what they should be doing. "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a figure who created a economy-changing product, and as a result holds assets that value in the billions. Their motivations, ideology, and state ties were unknown, though they maintained they were not an American. It's completely reasonable for government to find out who this person is, and determine if they were and ally, an enemy, or neither. Now that they know they can act accordingly.

    1. Re:This is ok by Subm · · Score: 1

      > It's completely reasonable for government to find out who this person is

      No one questioned if they had a reason.

      The issue is that their behavior is probably unconstitutional.

    2. Re:This is ok by Gussington · · Score: 1

      The issue is that their behavior is probably unconstitutional.

      WTF? You'll have to point to the rest of us where in the constitution it says you can't analyse someone's writing style without their permission?

  28. Re: Anyone who believes this is a cow. by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

    A 50-dimensional cow. Okay, now I am worried

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  29. Also, Unabomber by s1d3track3D · · Score: 1

    Interesting, there was a story recently on Fresh Air/NPR about how they caught the unabomber through linguistic work. It wasn't until his manifesto that they had enough writing to analyse. They didn't mention stylometry but the FBI interviewee discussed breaking down the writing into geographical location, writer's age, etc.

    1. Re:Also, Unabomber by al0ha · · Score: 1

      They didn't mention stylometry because it wasn't invented yet, they were actively inventing it at the moment.

      http://www.pbs.org/opb/history...

      Shoot I wish my posts would be modded up insightful as they deserve, see my previous post where a guy was modded insightful for the incorrect reply...

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    2. Re:Also, Unabomber by s1d3track3D · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info +1, sorry no mod points

  30. Re:The joke's on them... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    No he did not. As soon as someone tells you a wallet address you can see everything that's happening on it, you cannot troll/fake this.

    And what's with that transaction done on 2017-08-22? Is it stuck or something?

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  31. So in other words... by PortHaven · · Score: 3, Insightful

    YES, the NSA is reading ALL our emails, recording ALL our phone calls. Damn the Constitution full autocracy ahead.

    1. Re:So in other words... by linuxguy · · Score: 1

      You based this on anonymous poster citing anonymous sources at DHS?

      What the hell is wrong with you people?

  32. Even I know this by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    That's actually a bit careless. Even I am completely aware of this. When I'm posting something anonymously, I swap cuz/cause and don't put commas before a "lol" and single space my sentences and don't use an oxford comma and use semicolons incorrectly on purpose. All you have to have is a basic awareness of how it works and you can avoid it. I blame him for not being cautious enough.

    1. Re:Even I know this by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      That's the main reason for all my incorrect word usage, typos, and grammar mistakes too.

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    2. Re:Even I know this by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Ha! Now we know your tricks, we're on to you! You cannot HIDE! MUhahahahaha

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    3. Re:Even I know this by Pseudonym · · Score: 2

      I will never be found parently becaus3 of my brilliance disguises but also styling metering thinks I am smartphones autocarrot.

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  33. Officially Pissed Off by TiggertheMad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If this is true, it begs the question: why is the NSA looking for Satoshi? Where are the warrants to do this kind of search? This is a fairly involved process, even if the software was already written, collecting the entirety of Satoshi's writing for input is time consuming work.

    As a taxpayer, there be something pretty fuckin important they need to ask Satoshi personally to justify this waste of my tax money.

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    1. Re:Officially Pissed Off by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As a taxpayer, there be something pretty fuckin important they need to ask Satoshi personally to justify this waste of my tax money.

      You really think they have to justify what they do with your money? One of my fav quotes in that good old ID4 movie: " You don't actually think they spend $20,000 on a hammer, $30,000 on a toilet seat, do you?"

    2. Re:Officially Pissed Off by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      As a taxpayer, there be something pretty fuckin important they need to ask Satoshi personally to justify this waste of my tax money.

      The taxman doesn't report to you, you are his bitch not the other way around.

    3. Re:Officially Pissed Off by cheesybagel · · Score: 3

      There are people who already collected all his writings so that wouldn't exactly be hard to find.

      Why did they search for him? One possibility is they want to recruit him. Other than that it could be they simply want to track his activities given his known past record with distributed crypto. Or they want to find a way to subvert the protocol in case it comes to that.

    4. Re:Officially Pissed Off by cheesybagel · · Score: 2

      Or the last option, they basically did it because they can, period.

    5. Re:Officially Pissed Off by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      But the thing is none of what he did was illegal and you actually only owe tax once you sell something. Until he gets paid for those Bitcoin in his wallet he doesn't actually own anything that's worth something. It's basically like owning stock.

    6. Re:Officially Pissed Off by mysidia · · Score: 2

      Someone at IRS reached out to the DHS/FBI/NSA to figure out who's the owner of billions of dollars and not paying taxes on them

      There's no tax due on any BTC, unless he goes to transact with them.

    7. Re:Officially Pissed Off by bongey · · Score: 1, Troll

      You mean tax agender, tax androgyne, tax androgynous, tax bigender, tax cis, tax cisgender, tax cis female, tax cis male, tax cis man, tax cis woman, tax cisgender female, tax cisgender male, tax cisgender man, tax cisgender woman, tax female to male, tax ftm, tax gender fluid, tax gender nonconforming, tax gender questioning, tax gender variant, tax genderqueer, tax intersex, tax male to female, tax mtf, tax neither, tax neutrois, tax non-binary, tax other, tax pangender, tax trans, tax trans, tax trans* female, tax trans female, tax trans* male, tax trans male, tax trans man, tax trans* man, tax trans person, tax trans* person, tax trans woman, tax trans* woman, tax transfeminine, tax transgender, tax transgender female, tax transgender male, tax transgender man, tax transgender person, tax transgender woman, tax transmasculine, tax transsexual, tax transsexual female, tax transsexual male, tax transsexual man, tax transsexual person, tax transsexual woman, tax two-spirit, tax man and last tax woman.

    8. Re:Officially Pissed Off by Megol · · Score: 1

      You can't be an engineer. Things have to be developed and things have to be tested. This is a good way to test things.

      If you are pissed because the NSA do their work which includes creating (and testing) tools to do signal analysis... Well, you are probably pissed at everything.

    9. Re:Officially Pissed Off by Megol · · Score: 1

      Most likely. As I wrote above it is an excellent way to test software and methods that can be useful in other cases.

    10. Re:Officially Pissed Off by larryjoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If this is true, it begs the question: why is the NSA looking for Satoshi? Where are the warrants to do this kind of search? This is a fairly involved process, even if the software was already written, collecting the entirety of Satoshi's writing for input is time consuming work.

      As a taxpayer, there be something pretty fuckin important they need to ask Satoshi personally to justify this waste of my tax money.

      Maybe finding Satoshi is as important as landing a man on the moon. The task at hand may not be that important, but developing the technology in the process yields capabilities that may prove to be significant for future tasks.

    11. Re:Officially Pissed Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No no, they really do. One government entity spent $20,000 on dial-up modems from my company. The government paid retail prices because of how screwed up the bidding process is. There were no backroom deals, bribery, or anything of that nature.

      If I hadn't spent many hours filling out the right paperwork the government would have spent closer to $40,000-$60,000 though going through a third party that would have then purchased these modems from us for the government.

      The people in government understand how this stupid system works and to get the product from the company that they want to get it from. In our case they specified a model number. In other cases they will specify configurations that can only be filled by one company.

      Now in this particular case it actually was important to get these dial-up modems from us. Not necessarily because it would have been impossible get modems elsewhere, but because it's saving the government money long term (ie reducing the frequency of how ofen they have to purchase new modems). It made some level of sense, but it's pure luck I wasted hours of my life to reduce the government's cost of acquiring these modems. The bureaucracy in the procurement process actually caused the $40-60k number. We gained nothing by filling out all the right paperwork in order to place a bid on the contract. The government would have gotten our modems at (actually above) retail price if it wasn't for the 3 hours I spent on paperwork so that we could bid directly.

    12. Re:Officially Pissed Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's actually just another example of how Hollywood doesn't know a damned thing about the military.

      Here's just one example of how this "$20,000 hammer" story can happen. The hammer cost $10. But it is part of a large supply contract that employs hundreds of people and sells the government everything from staples to trucks. The overhead cost of the contract (all the people, the offices, the warehouses, the transportation, etc) is split evenly across each order made. Order 100 trucks? That's $10 million + $20,000 overhead. Order 1 hammer? That's $10 + $20,000 overhead.

      There's also the averaged cost method, where the cost of an entire program is just averaged over the items it produces.
      Then there's the "custom item" situation, where the hammer is actually made is rear materials to a custom spec that took 10 years of research to develop, plus only four of them were ever made...

      In other words, Hollywood (famous for it's own magical accounting practices) is stupid, and people that quote Hollywood are even dumber.

    13. Re:Officially Pissed Off by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      To test this method of search, you need very obscure subjects who are nevertheless identifiable by some other means.

    14. Re:Officially Pissed Off by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      Because they're not, it's a ripping yarn though.

    15. Re:Officially Pissed Off by atherophage · · Score: 1

      Did anyone think to ask Satoshi to just come forward before launching this expensive operation? Maybe Satoshi would have, saving tax payers a bundle - not saying the choice was, say, find Satoshi or build a library.

    16. Re:Officially Pissed Off by Normal_Deviate · · Score: 1

      Willie Sutton.

    17. Re:Officially Pissed Off by Gussington · · Score: 1

      If this is true, it begs the question: why is the NSA looking for Satoshi? Where are the warrants to do this kind of search?

      Um, last time I checked you don't need a warrant to do writing analysis

      As a taxpayer, there be something pretty fuckin important they need to ask Satoshi personally to justify this waste of my tax money.

      Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. But your concerns of how your tax is spent is dealt with at election time. Unless you think every tax payer should be consulted for every single operational decision for every government department at every level, all the time? Good luck with that....

    18. Re:Officially Pissed Off by laddiebuck · · Score: 4, Informative

      I know it's out of fashion to read TFA, but you could have just scrolled right to the end:

      "But why? Why go to so much trouble to identify Satoshi? My source tells me that the Obama administration was concerned that Satoshi was an agent of Russia or China—that Bitcoin might be weaponized against us in the future. Knowing the source would help the administration understand their motives. As far as I can tell Satoshi hasn’t violated any laws and I have no idea if the NSA determined he was an agent of Russia or China or just a Japanese crypto hacker."

      Oh and also, this report is literally just a self-sourced blog post.

      "Sources: Many readers have asked that I provide third party citations to ‘prove’ the NSA identified Satoshi using stylometry. Unfortunately, I cannot as I haven’t read this anywhere else—hence the reason I wrote this post. I’m not trying to convince the reader of anything, instead my goal is to share the information I received and make the reader aware of the possibility that the NSA can easily determine the authorship of any email through the use of their various sources, methods, and resources."

    19. Re:Officially Pissed Off by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Easy. To get the private keys to bitcoin

    20. Re:Officially Pissed Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      why is the NSA looking for Satoshi?

      There has been a strong push over the last 6-12 months to bring Bitcoin into the global financial fold. Ben Bernake is due to speak in support of Bitcoin at an upcoming Blockchain conference soon. Let that sink in.

      Obviously, Banks and Governments desire to get this Bitcoin thing under control. This will not be done by outright bans, or technological restriction/hacks/attacks. It will be done in the same way the post War Elite have gotten everything else under control. Social Influence. Networking, fawning praise, meetings, love-bombing, deals, conferences, NYT articles, fancy diners, meeting famous people, interviews, all making sure everyone is "part of the team" and on the same page. Indirect monetary rewards, and of course cold shoulders and consequences for the Bitcoin community members who do not capitulate to induction programme.

      This will not work without Satoshi. If he calls out the co-option of Bitcoin, it's all over. The banks need him, otherwise they won't have the clout to get the bt community to alter the algorithms favorably. Best way to get him is to set the Media on him until he cracks or gives in. To do that, they have to find him: Enter the Surveillance state.

      It's still possible they don't have him and the article is a bluff, to pressure him to to the dinner table. Either way they want him, they need him, otherwise Bitcoin remains outside the financial fold, and the banks and their governments can't abide that.

    21. Re:Officially Pissed Off by TheCastro1689 · · Score: 1

      We just need gov apps, where everyone gets to vote on how money is spent, you'll need 65% or more to get the money spent. Watch how everyone ends up wanting a smaller government because we can't agree on much except a few things to fund.

    22. Re:Officially Pissed Off by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Where are the warrants to do this kind of search?

      None needed. This is all publicly available information. Lots of people publish things on the internet, such as Slashdot posts. They collected everything that they could find was published, picked out Satoshi's published material, and had no need for anything private.

      If this is true, it begs the question: why is the NSA looking for Satoshi?

      First, if I didn't correct you to "raises the question", I'd have my grammar nazi membership revoked, so forgive me.

      Second, I can think of reasons. They may have wanted to test this stylometric stuff, and Satoshi was convenient. With the increasing acceptance of Bitcoin, they might want to know who's got loads of them, or trace who originated them.

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    23. Re:Officially Pissed Off by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

      why is the NSA looking for Satoshi?

      There is someone in the world with a net worth of up to $5 Billion USD and is one of the top 500 richest people in the world and nobody knows for sure who they are, what they might intend to do with that money, who they are affiliated with or what their ideology is.

      Identifying an anonymous multi-billionaire and compiling a dossier on them is a pretty good use of tax money. There is a track record in recent American history where zealots with access to enormous financial resources cause a number of security concerns to the US...
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Even if Satoshi is perfectly benign to American interests, *that* information is incredibly valuable national security intelligence. Knowing who not to worry about is useful information.

    24. Re:Officially Pissed Off by Gussington · · Score: 1

      We just need gov apps, where everyone gets to vote on how money is spent,

      You have this, it's called an election. Unless you are suggesting that every level of a million-person+ government workforce needs every single purchase approved by popular vote?
      Should we buy the 1 ply or 2 ply toilet paper this week? Let's hold a public vote!
      Are we deploying the F-16's for the F-22's for this sortie? Let's see what the public thinks!

    25. Re: Officially Pissed Off by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Why the fuck do you need a warrant to find someone? When you want to search someone's property or arrest them, yeah. To fucking find someone? Fucking dumb people.

  34. And the point of this effort? by whoever57 · · Score: 1

    What's the point of this effort? Did he break any laws?

    Or is this just more dick-waving by the NSA?

    More proof that the security services are out of control?

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  35. Re: Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 1

    I would also add that, Canadian money or not, I do not have to wait for more than an hour to confirm a transaction.

  36. Re: BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    When two men claim they are Jesus, at least one of them must be wrong.

    But when four AC's claim to be old queens, we gotta figure they are all correct.

  37. Re:And when they found he was a US citizen? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    Did they stop investigating?

    Only if he supports Donald Trump.

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  38. IRS by eric31415927 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I imagine the IRS wants his name and a good chunk of any cash it feels entitled to.

    1. Re:IRS by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      I imagine the IRS wants his name and a good chunk of any cash it feels entitled to.

      That's a very good point. Is income earned from bitcoin mining tax collectible (I'm sure it is); and how many people report that?

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    2. Re:IRS by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Unrealized gains are just ... paper gains. They have no right until he cashes in the coins. And since they don't know which coins are his, and which ones aren't, I suspect that they don't have any way to actually get anything. Sucks for them.

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    3. Re:IRS by hackel · · Score: 1

      No, it sucks for the taxpayers who are owed that money wherever he lives.

    4. Re:IRS by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Taxpayers don't ever see the money. You're under the false assumption that the government has a right to unrealized gains, under threat of government guns.

      Thansk

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    5. Re:IRS by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      Unrealized gains are just ... paper gains.

      Until you sell, at which point they are realized gains. And you have to pay taxes.

      They have no right [to go investigate and identify the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto] until he cashes in the coins.

      It's investigation. As a government agency or service, they can investigate whomever they want. They probably can't go get a warrant though. SHOULD they be? Well, that's up to their boss and a lot more subjective. You'd argue "no", and that's a fine stance, but I'd say that unless they know otherwise there's an obvious potential for a ton of tax dodging. It's the sort of thing the IRS is supposed to go investigate. ...Not typically with the NSA's help. That part is worrisome.

      But realize that they can do anything that you or I can do. I'm free to try and find him. I have that right. You can't illegalize investigation.

      And since they don't know which coins are his, and which ones aren't, I suspect that they don't have any way to actually get anything.

      Right. Unless they... you know... figured out who he was and then AUDITED HIM. Like normal. Fuck if they care what coins he has, they care about CASH. Realized income. That thing they tax and the sole purpose for their existence.

      Sucks for them.

      HAHAHAHA, that's adorable that you think "sucks to be them" is how any story involving the IRS actually ends. I mean, you know, on the side of the IRS. That's how most stories with the IRS actually end, but with checks being made out to the feds.

      . . . Is the bitcoin ID of Satoshi also unknown? Isn't there a log of every bitcoin ever sold? Wouldn't it be pretty trivial so see how many coins have come from his bitcoin ID, and when, and then get an estimate of how much he's cashed out?

  39. Re: Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by cunina · · Score: 2

    But Canadian money does have a real and considerable threat physical force behind it, unlike Bitcoin. If you don't think it does, try counterfeiting the Canadian dollar in any useful quantity and see what happens.

  40. unreliable by doctorvo · · Score: 1

    The effort took less than a month and resulted in positive match.

    Yes, and nobody knows what the false positive or false negative rates are. Stylometry is not a reliable way of identifying people, and it is quite disturbing that people pretend it is.

    This is just as bad as the lie detector scam. The real objective of such announcements it to create fear and doubt among the population; they want to be able to bully suspects into saying "come on, admit you're guilty, stylometry/lie detectors already prove it, but we'll give you a lighter sentence if you cooperate".

  41. Re: Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Try to send CAD or USD or any other currency from America to Asia... Probably you will have to wait longer than one hour unless you pay some crazy fees to WU or some other monopol ( which also doesnt' work in all parts of the world ).

  42. ac by trb · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder how long it will take the NSA to unmask Slashdot's Anonymous Coward.

    1. Re:ac by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      I wonder how long it will take the NSA to unmask Slashdot's Anonymous Coward.

      Shouldn't be too hard. They only need to compare AC to people who are current residents of mental institutions.

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    2. Re:ac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      We had anecdote in Soviet Union about KGB. The conversation taking place in public phone booth in the middle of the night somewhere on side road having no single person around in vicenty.

      The guys is dialing number using coins a has following conversation:

      - Hello
      - Hello
      - Is this KGB
      - Yes
      - You work poorly!
      (Somebody pats on his shoulder behind)
      - We work as we can ...

  43. Re:so? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    Aaand? Who is it?

    Al Gore. Al Gore invented bit coin.

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  44. Re: Anyone who believes this is a cow. by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    A 50-dimensional cow. Okay, now I am worried

    What if all cows have 50 dimensions but we can only perceive 3 of them?

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  45. And to think by jayhawk88 · · Score: 1

    It was Rusty Foster the whole time! Who would have thought?

  46. Re: Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by Joce640k · · Score: 2

    Real money also doesn't use 170kW/h of electricity for every transaction.

    (current power usage of the Bitcoin network is 0.08% of the worlds production)

    https://digiconomist.net/bitco...

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  47. Re:Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    I can't think of too many drug dealers that accept monopoly money.

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  48. Re: Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 1

    If only kW/h was an unit of energy...

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  49. Bullshit method by Khyber · · Score: 1

    Stylometry is a useless tool that works by racial and cultural stereotypes. Anyone with a half-decent education will stymie this system almost immediately.

    Take two students from the same school, whom have had the same classes, especially the language classes, right to the same teacher.

    Odds are quite high that they will phrase things quite similarly.

    As if this weren't evident enough in the amount of cheating that happens in middle and high school.

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    1. Re:Bullshit method by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      "stymie" = slashdot user "Khybar".

      Cataloged for future doxing efforts.

      Carry on citizen.

  50. Re: Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't need to! I earn Canadian Tire money with every purchase I make on my MasterCard!

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  51. Re: Anyone who believes this is a cow. by Migraineman · · Score: 1

    Well, that's the way mice work.

  52. did he commit a crime?? by zantafio · · Score: 1

    If this story is not BS, then I would like to know why is the NSA spending taxpayer dollars on this fishing expedition. Is Satoshi wanted for a crime? which one(s)?

  53. Re:How to stay anonymous by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

    Going through an automatic translator probably works.
    I don't really believe that stylometry is as effective as the article says though.

  54. Re:you will hate me but it'll be in your head all by diesalesmandie · · Score: 1

    ...will the real Satoshi please stand up

    please stand up

    please stand up ....ducks!......

    Satoshi don't mess around because he loves bitcoin and this we know for sho!

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  55. kWh is not kW/h though. The GP said kW/h. He probably meant kWh though.

  56. True, but, by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

    Canadian and U.S. Money, like all fiat currencies, can be instantly devalued simply by the gov't choosing to print more at any time. It IS NOT a guaranteed store of stable value.

    1. Re:True, but, by careysub · · Score: 1

      Canadian and U.S. Money, like all fiat currencies, can be instantly devalued simply by the gov't choosing to print more at any time. It IS NOT a guaranteed store of stable value.

      Now what would a "guaranteed store of stable value" be?

      Who pays out the guarantee?

      Not precious metals that had real price collapses between 1915-1933, 1941-1972, 1975-1978, 1981-2010 (with several smaller peaks and collapses since then), we are still down sharply since 2012. Nothing stable about this.

      The dollar on the other hand declines in value (if you are foolish enough to hold "paper") at a usually predictable rate and gradual rate (no inflation jump in the last 100 years is remotely like the price fluctuations of metals) and allow you to offset inflation with Federal bond purchases. U.S. Federal bonds have never been defaulted on, even interest payments have only been delayed (for a short time, a technical default) a couple of times. So far.

      To answer my rhetorical question above, it is the U.S. Government.

      Hard money cults do not trump actual data. (No I used that word in an ordinary sense, he does not own the word).

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  57. Why would he bother selling? by DMJC · · Score: 1

    Think about it, this is the guy who invented bitcoin. He would know better than anyone that it's a deflationary currency and the longer he holds onto his pile of coins the richer he will get. Why bother selling until you're worth more than Bill Gates? The NSA probably want to unmask him to determine if he's funding terrorists/who the hell he is. I don't think they should be conducting surveillance/this sort of analysis against this particular target because the methods being used are wrong. However I can understand the interest in him. This is someone who is using up to date encryption methods. It's basically someone the NSA would be targeting anyway to try and stay ahead in electronic warfare techniques. When your entire reason for existence is to decode intelligence communication, it's a requirement you can/try to break all encryption methods available/potentially available to your adversaries.

  58. Re: Anyone who believes this is a cow. by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

    You DO realize that we can perceive 4 dimensions, right? Width, Height, Depth, and Time.

    It is pretty trivial to do when you group the related ones. At work I visualize 20+ dimensions.

    i.e. 14 Dimensions:

    * X, Y
    * Width, Height
    * r,g,b,a
    * Rot X, Y, Z
    * Scale X, Y, Z

    There are numerous videos on how to visualize higher dimensions

    * Jos Leys - Ãtienne Ghys - Aurélien Alvarez (Dimensions - A walk through mathematics)
    * Rob Bryanton (Imagining 10 Dimensions - the Movie)

  59. Translator Chains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you try to anonymize your writing by running it through hained translations you had better have those translators running on yiur own hw else you are just moving part of the tracing problem to the traffic analysis space

  60. Hype detection by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

    By taking Satoshi's texts and finding the 50 most common words, the NSA was able to break down his text into 5,000 word chunks and analyse each to find the frequency of those 50 words. This would result in a unique 50-number identifier for each chunk.

    ok.

    The NSA then placed each of these numbers into a 50-dimensional space and flatten them into a plane using principal components analysis.

    That's purposely sounding complex to make it look more impressive than it is. Fuck that hype. Strive for quality journalism and stop bullshitting us.

    The result is a 'fingerprint' for anything written by Satoshi that could easily be compared to any other writing

    ok. But really it just means there's another layer of obfuscation required. If you really want to be anonymous, now you need to pass everything you write through a SIMPLE-WORDS filter. Parish the thought of giving the NSA even a modicum of tyranny inducing panopicon. ....OH SHIT!

    1. Re:Hype detection by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      Despite the constant negative press covfefe

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  61. meh by retchdog · · Score: 1

    eh, just restrict yourself to Simplified Technical English or basic English when writing your manifesto, and be sure to randomize both sentence length and word choices.

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  62. Re:Tax fraud. by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

    Any time he sells a bitcoin and doesn't declare the gain on his quarterly taxes, it is called tax fraud.

    Good point. People are wondering why the NSA would bother with this but it's easy to see why they might. Currently no country can tax him because they have no idea who he is. If his real life identity is connected to his wallet identity then whatever government he lives under can tax the billions he made from his pyramid scheme currency. The problem is it must be definitive and this method doesn't sound like it is. Although there probably aren't many billionaires without any obvious source of hundreds of millions of dollars or pounds or whatever who also got caught in their net. They could also rule out a lot of rich businessmen because they are rarely the type to do something like this. Although they may fund it. Of course it could be a group of people.

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  63. Is this real? by ChristopherCelaya · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a Philip Dick novel. Why is everybody arguing about whether currencies are valuable instead of discussing the inability to stay anonymous?

  64. Re:I don't doubt that being a billionaire by InfiniteLoopCounter · · Score: 1

    The parent comment seems particularly insightful and reminds me of former USA president Barack Obama's detailed description for the cameras of the operation to take out terrorist Osama Bin Laden. The idea if I get it right was to project that this country was so far ahead of others it could say openly what its intelligence services were doing. I wonder if this might ironically make it weak long term if this keeps happening and other countries don't do this.

  65. South Park's Emoji Analysis by AlexDelphino · · Score: 1

    enuf said

  66. Re: BS by careysub · · Score: 1

    Come on someone, mod this funny!

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  67. Re: Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by FuzzyDaddy2 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, what's weird is that it doesn't seem to matter and enough people believe in it to drive up the value. Just finished "cryptonimocon", in which the premise of the story is people want to set up a digital currency backed by a hoard of WW2 gold they were hunting for. It seems quaint now because it turns out you don't even need the gold. (Although it's an awesome book)

  68. Re:Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    Most? meaning more than half. I'm skeptical an average drug dealer would barter with collectibles given that I don't think I could properly identify a first edition board game even though I'm a member of my work's board game club and my Mom is an antique dealer.

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  69. Re: Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by NitroWolf · · Score: 1

    Try counterfeiting bitcoin in any useful quantity and see what happens. I guarantee you far more than if you counterfeit Canadian money.

  70. TFA explains why by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 1

    TFA explains why:

    Why go to so much trouble to identify Satoshi? My source tells me that the Obama administration was concerned that Satoshi was an agent of Russia or China -- that Bitcoin might be weaponized against us in the future.

    Whether you agree with what that motive or not, it's good someone was concerned about such things.

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  71. Had to pick some anon person for research by drnb · · Score: 1

    If this is true, it begs the question: why is the NSA looking for Satoshi?

    Its a research project, you have to look for someone attempting anonymity. Satoshi would be a fun target. Also an anonymous person with a larger collection of public writing would be make the research easier.

  72. Wow. I mean effing wow by mnemotronic · · Score: 1

    With all that power, why can't we get a copy of the medical tests confirming Alzheimers or a list of off-shore tax avoidance bank accounts of .... a certain reality TV bimbo-in-chief.

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  73. Think about it. by wkwilley2 · · Score: 2

    Satoshi is a serious threat to any large government since he/she/they single-handedly created the most popular and valuable de-centralized currency in the world.

    Currency in any form is one that any government wants exclusive control over.

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  74. Re:Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    There aren't many people crazy enough to pay over $4,000 each for Monopoly dollars, though.

    Like it or not, any item (even Bitcoin) is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Whether or not it will still be worth $4,000 a year from now it anyone's guess at this point. It could become the next Mastercard, or the various world governments might outlaw the currency and start prosecuting enough users to make it's value plummet.

    Personally, the lack of certainty either way is enough to make me stay away at this point.

    You mean like stocks. More specifically stocks that don't pay dividends

  75. Dubious by rkordmaa · · Score: 1

    Eh... if you are going to look through billion people for any match you are going to get some, probably thousands, doesn't mean you found the person you were looking for. Can't say I'm surprised about intelligence agencies looking for the fella, but it's kind of late now, bitcoin is fart in the wind by now, there is no catching it anymore, getting paws on Satoshis personal bitcoin cache might be important in the long run tho. Governments can only hope it will fail on its own, if it doesn't... that wouldn't bode well for world economy. My personal opinion is that Satoshi, whoever he may be, purposefully designed the thing to be an economical doomsday device.

  76. Re:rhwy are probably an/are Aussie(s) by jabuzz · · Score: 1

    Depends a lot of spelling checkers set to a British dictionary will mark an word with a ize ending as wrong and want to change it to an ise ending. Stupid thing is that the ize ending is a perfectly correct British spelling, as can be determined by a quick check in the OED.

  77. seems like a PR article for anonymouth by darkeye · · Score: 1

    without any substantiation of the main claim

    wonder how this got through the /. content selection process

  78. What's his crime? Does it matter ... tax evasion by lpq · · Score: 1

    They might not like him for creating a new currency -- If he's a US citizen, that is likely illegal. They can claim he is supporting terrorism by creating an untraceable currency. They can point to an increase in untraceable transactions -- money laundering -- supporting and an all crimes -- they can blame almost anything -- and then ....

    If they can't prove it, they can do to him what they did to Capone and hit this "millionaire" for tax evasion.

    Or do you think he paid taxes on all his bitcoins?

  79. Re: Does the NSA follow Milton-Bradley? by Gonoff · · Score: 1

    I don't think nearly as many people use Monopoly money for money laundering and ransomware, though.

    Agreed. The vast majority of criminals use US dollars.
    Perhaps someone should investigate the shady groups behind this hugely overvalued national currency? I suggest they start with the NSA, CIA, US Treasury and the US "Federal Reserve". They could then expand their enquiry to The US oil industry and the petrodollar.

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  80. Thought by Gonoff · · Score: 1

    What gave this bunch the impression that they had the need or right to do this?

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    1. Re:Thought by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      TFS suggests that the NSA went through publicly available writings. Anyone has the right to do that.

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  81. Re:rhwy are probably an/are Aussie(s) by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

    Going off the mixture of British and American spellings they are probably an Aussie!!

    Nakamoto is Craig Wright, confirmed!

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  82. So What? by tmjva · · Score: 1

    All these questions of why, why, why?  I say so what?

    Now that they found him, what are they going to do with him?  That's the real question.

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  83. Wow ... who knew... by endoflife · · Score: 1

    Who knew the NSA was having so much trouble locating it's employees?

  84. Re: BS by KingBenny · · Score: 1

    somewhat funny, i read this in a years old book named "bitcoin : the future of money" in that case satoshi must have been identifierd for years by now ... and also , this is not confirmed ? hmz ...

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