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EU Presidency Calls For Massive Internet Filtering, Leaked Document Shows (edri.org)
An anonymous reader shares a report: A Council of the European Union document leaked by Statewatch on 30 August reveals that during the summer months, that Estonia (current EU Presidency) has been pushing the other Member States to strengthen indiscriminate internet surveillance, and to follow in the footsteps of China regarding online censorship. Standing firmly behind its belief that filtering the uploads is the way to go, the Presidency has worked hard in order to make the proposal for the new copyright Directive even more harmful than the Commission's original proposal, and pushing it further into the realms of illegality. According to the leaked document, the text suggests two options for each of the two most controversial proposals: the so-called "link tax" or ancillary copyright and the upload filter.
They're really going to need a filter now or all kinds of people in the EU are going to be reading web comments about what a bunch of wankers these asshats are.
The Great Firewall will be extended to include all!
Wait...
What will we keep out, if we already are eradicating the innovative ideas? Quickly! Suppress art!
Those of us in the tech sector need to be seriously talking about building a new layer of internet on top of the old one.
Human expression and dignity is under assault by fascists cloaked in the sheepskin of virtue.
Google, Facebook, Cloudflare, are now marching lockstep with the oppressive regimes of China and the EU.
It's becoming clearer and clearer that the UK is making the right decision by aiming to cut as many ties as possible with the EU. It just isn't worth being involved with them if it potentially exposes a nation to nonsense like this, or worse, to the hordes of illegal aliens from some of the worst places imaginable who have essentially invaded Europe without any real resistance these past few years. Whatever short-term pain there might be from Brexit is well worth it.
To fight Russia, we must become Russia ?
Sure lets put in more surveillance than Russia and China.
Any dissenting opinion can be blocked.
That's what they will call a brief period of 15 years.
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The EU apologists are downplaying this by pointing out that the current EU president (Estonia) is merely agenda setting and not a powerful executive. People that understand the malice of big government recognize this for what it is; the camel's nose. It will survive the transition to the next unelected EU president, and the one after and so on, until its on the docket in Brussel's various commissions and parliament.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
the Nazis had newspaper censorship and now EU wants that for the net?? what is next???
there is only one reason for using China's system for control data/opinions shows: To guarantee the status quo and minimize or eliminate any threat to your current power structure. Unless the world wants their governments run like China, those that don't like it need to speak up, openly, now....because once it's in, it will be a lot harder to remove. (as per design)
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Einstein
So what harm has the EU done exactly? Other than not be the subject of some obscure cartoon about politicians in the USA? And compaired to the USSR that murdered people or exiled others to Siberia or threatened word destruction to name just the top of the iceberg?
In Capitalist US, the commerce controls the Government.
The EU is and isn't what anyone wants it to be (or not to be). It is a vague confederation of states.
So, it all depends on the question, whether or not it makes the EU look good/bad and whether or not you want it to look that way.
Petty dictators need to be exposed for what they are. This is such a case. So, it is or isn't a reflection on the EU, again depending on your support (or not) of the EU. So, you'll have to figure out if the EU is good or bad, and if you like this idea or not, before you can actually say if this is harm or not. ;-)
See how that works?
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
Estonia is the only remaining country in Europe where SS (yes, _that_ SS) veterans march on main streets. I guess it's hard to let go of Nazi past.
Oh yes, the EU is soooooo eeeeevil. It's not that a subgroup of idiots in this large diverse group have stupid censorship ideas, oh no, the whole thing must go!
Spoken like a true Briton (True Scotsmen are actually economically minded and didn't want to torpedo their economy like you.)
So should we be upset about copyright or internet surveillance or filtering or something else? All those are big topics to discuss, argue and have fun with.
As for the technical (in)capacity of the Eurocrats
The Council of Ministers are not Eurocrats. The Council of Ministers is literally a collection of ministers from the national governments of the countries in the EU. Depending on the topic at hand, different ministers meet under this umbrella name.
In fact, the Council of Ministers is the one branch of the EU that is supposed to prevent the EU from being too Euro-centric and to forget about national interests. In practice, of course, national governments use it to introduce positions that are unpopular at home, so they can then blame them on the evil EU. Fortunately, it is often (but definitely not always) the European Parliament that blocks, or at least weakens these things (although I know that part of this is a political game, where extremes are introduced so that later supposed "compromises" can be reached that are still horribly bad).
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With a population of 1.3 million, it is one of the least-populous member states of the European Union, Eurozone, North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), OECD and Schengen Area.
Why should the rest of the EU even listen to them? 'President of the EU' or not? Also, good luck censoring the rest of the non-EU world.
Politicians, when will they learn?
So what harm has the EU done exactly?
The EU eroded border security and caused a mass influx of criminal migrants and terrorists. While simultaneously prohibiting member countries from policing their own borders.
Not to mention that the whole thing is designed to be an end run around democracy: power lies with the appointed commission, not the elected parliament. It's a lobbyist's and career politician's wet dream.
Between fucktarded politicians 'legislating' more and more restrictions, monitoring, and censoring, and greedy nosy corporations 'monetizing' the ever-loving fuck out of it, they'll kill the Internet by driving everyone away from it; that's what I see happening in a possible future, the Internet being such an absolute unusable sewer that nobody even bothers anymore.
As a vague confederation of states they are the most opaque. They must choose so that I can properly align my outrage meters to their actions!
Could you measure their good/bad as compared to Obama drinking Coke or Pepsi as a moral issue? I need help. :-(
We could have 1TBs of fiber up to everyone's home and 10GB speeds on phones someday. None of that bandwidth will matter, however, if the only true value of the Internet - the uncensored, uninhibited flow of ALL 0s and 1s - is lost. "We need to be able to regulate what goes across our pipes because of X," in any form for any reason, is ultimately bad for the health of the internet.
Yeah, we can wrap it up in "national security", "copyright holders protections", "good business sense", etc., but it's all still the digital equivalent of wholesale, Internet-wide chemo for an Internet "cancer" that is harming specific interests.
The only cure for those Internet issues like what this Estonian douchebag wants to help "fix" is personal responsibility. Anything else will ultimately fail.
Do they not hear how the rest of the world makes fun of, and puts down China for their massive firewall? Are they racing to the bottom?
Progressivist Libtards of Bruxelles want to impose everybody a new EUrss ? Only in their Neo-Marxist dreams!
Really a BIG No Thx. But unlinke classical USSR, they don't have military power to stop _Exit!
Estonia is far and away the most "digitally transformed" state, or at least that's what they want to be seen as. Yet in secret they're in collusion with the entertainment mafia and working to reduce freedoms. This is troubling.
Bitching about the Brits here is a little silly, since they actually lead the pack regarding censorship laws. They currently have not one, but at least three different censorship systems in deployment.
As someone living inside Euro-land, native of this here country, somewhat like but not quite the same as England, I've come to the conclusion that while working together is a lofty goal, this isn't what the Eurocrats bring us. Their only option is failure and their only solution to failure is "more Europe". I didn't get to vote but my vote would have been "aye and yay" to Brexit. Because it really is the only way short of war to solve this problem.
The EU/EC/EP/E... is unfixable and unwilling to admit it could do with improvement. It must go in its entirety. So that if one silly country wants to fsck itself up, the rest of us needn't suffer. We should probably limit ourselves to joint defense, only without the Americans making us all dance this time. Instead we're getting nannyed to death and we have no defense left. No wonder we're already buckling under the strain from the assault of... penniless refugees^Wfortune seekers. Thanks, Eurocrats.
The EU allowed German car companies to cheat test.
The EU allowed Merkel to invite every third world inhabitant and did nothing to protect its external borders or to stop anarchist sympathizing NGO's who collaborate with human traffickers and slave traders.
The EU forced poorer east European countries to open their borders for Muslim immigrants.
The EU forced austerity on all member states even when the population of the individual states voted something else.
The EU forced socialization of pension funds even when the individual states had an elected government that opposed this socialization.
The EU encourages low wage workers to compete local workers out of the market, increasing unemployment among workers who are in high demand, but who are considered too expensive according to their nationality.
The EU doesn't do anything against millions of illegal immigrants, and funds NGO's who attract even more illegal immigrants with their charity.
The EU forces more and more freedom limiting and privacy invading laws upon the member states in an attempt to stop the rise of Eurosceptic politicians. They even make propaganda movies now, using people who died during the devastating world wars as martyrs for the EU. Those people died fighting for their freedom against an enemy who wanted to 'unite' the states and didn't even know anything about a political European Union.
The list goes on and on. The EU started to go wrong when a couple of leaders decided that the entire EU should be Socialist welfare state in the early 2000's.
Those government helpers ... always helping us make correct choices about what we watch and who to believe and what to listen to and enjoy.
Makes me just wish they had more of their fingers in my pocket helping me make more decisions.
If only free market companies were so helpful!
Brexit isn't sounding so bad now, is it....?
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
Heard of 5 eyes? Go look at how many member-states it has now (>40).
Go look at how many of those are European in origin.
Then consider how much privacy you really have, if all those guys are sharing your internet traffic back and forth to get around jurisdicitonal legal limitations.
If the EU" was serious about privacy protections they would be censuring basically every member state for colluding with the US government to spy on their citizens. But since they haven't....
Wait, are you saying the USSR is also responsible for sinking the RMS Titanic?
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And neither should anybody else, It is my duty as a loyal citizen of the European Union to obey without question the orders of the European institutions. To discuss or debate those orders is tantamount to treason. I am ready to inform on any acquaintances or relatives of mine that might engage on treasonous activities. Europe, and only Europe, united from the Atlantic to the Urals, will decide the fate of the world! Pour l'Europe, toujours! A nous la victoire!
" is unfixable and unwilling to admit it could do with improvement. It must go in its entirety " = BOLLOCKS, because you have no replacement to offer and you need the functionality the EU provides, if you don't like everything that's reasonable. Running away suddenly in the middle of the night and joining the circus-economy, that's not going to crush the EU, that's going to crush the UK.
Face facts, UK cannot survive as an island apart. You are headed for decline if you wish to relive the empire of the past.
For the Brits, yea. Unfortunately Brexit and Trump's victory have politicians and media so spooked they circled the wagons and went into propaganda mode. They're making sure there won't be any repeats, and unfortunately it's working.
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o/~ Here comes a candle to light you to bed. Here comes a chopper to chop off your head. o/~
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Internet surveillance and censorship is exactly what gets Prime Minister May foaming at the gash. She'll hate missing out on this.......
The media seem to be deluded into thinking that getting rid of Trump would magically make the massive percentage of populists go away,
populists who are not on a decline but rather on a rise, ergo populism made its stamp. The media think they operage like some deity, with a swipe of their hands and people will cease to exist magically and divinely.
In the past 30 years, i have never seen the field of journalism decline to such a state that it is in itself a parody of Trump now, in opinion pieces, in trying to play bias police, in producing clickbait (even BBC these few years is allowing the most ridiculous idiotic news on its front page such as that firemen sausage shit).
At this point the only difference between big news brands and bloggers is a presence of tax subsidy for news companies and a more lavish brand of blogging.
By controlling speech critical of the state, cracking down on public assembly and the tool to organize an assembly. There is a reason why the US explicitly protects these freedoms.
" is unfixable and unwilling to admit it could do with improvement. It must go in its entirety " = BOLLOCKS, because you have no replacement to offer and you need the functionality the EU provides, if you don't like everything that's reasonable. Running away suddenly in the middle of the night and joining the circus-economy, that's not going to crush the EU, that's going to crush the UK.
Face facts, UK cannot survive as an island apart. You are headed for decline if you wish to relive the empire of the past.
There's a reason the pound is still a thing and they never adopted the Euro. The EU is France, Germany, and the UK, plus a bunch of troublesome leeches. If the UK actually follows through and leaves, France and Germany are going to be playing chicken to see who stays in the longest. The instant one of them leaves, the EU is dead, and Europe will go back to doing what it does best - warring with itself. The scaremongering about the UK economy isn't about the UK, it's FUD meant to keep France and Germany on the hook as long as possible.
Nope. EU expected that everyone attempting to cross the border will try to do so at a border crossing - you know, like in a civilized world. And the numbers attempting to cross the border somewhere else would be in range of hundreds or thousands per year, not millions. There is an option how to stop people crossing the border in the fields or in the woods. Look up Iron Curtain to see what it would look like. Fences, barbed wires, minefields, dogs, patrols with automatic guns shooting without warning ... it isn't pretty. I know that, because live on the other side. EU though that we, as civilization, have moved pass that. They were wrong, but I can't really blame them.
EU did not cause that. You could claim that soldiers, from some member states, took part in some activity that caused that. But EU? No. The influx happens because some parts of the world were turned into a shithole while at the same time EU represents much nicer place to live just a few thousands kilometers away. We can talk about why those places were turned into a shithole, but EU never said it has "strategic interest" in Middle East. EU never sent troops there in the name of "national security". That was some other country.
But most of the population is in favor of more censorship. Liberalism is dead. It never really had a chance. All due to personal avarice. True change, for better or worse, will only happen on an evolutionary time scale. We desperately need a technological solution to create an indelible, universally accessible internet. The law of corrupt society can't be rendered impotent any other way.
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You're a fucking moron cayenne. Go suck Putin's cock on your way to a ruined UK economy.
Brexit isn't sounding so bad now, is it....?
Yeah 100% of deaf people agree.
Why is populism such a buzzword lately? It has always been a thing in democracies. Anybody who thinks Trump is populist and Obama wasn't obviously doesn't remember that nauseating Demi/Ashton "I pledge allegiance to Obama" video.
The EU eroded border security and caused a mass influx of criminal migrants and terrorists.
Personally I blame them for the rise of racist fuckwits on the internet.
It started becoming a shithole after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, and has been on a steady decline ever since. Secularism really started to take a nosedive during the 60's. If you look at photographs of universities and politicians prior to that, you don't see muslim attire (i.e. hijabs) very much, and you'd easily confuse many of them with westerners.
You assume either Germany or France is DUMB ENOUGH to think they'd gain something from leaving a 40~ year trade settlement overnight with NOTHING TO REPLACE IT WITH? The EU is better without you, frankly. You want to rule instead of be part of a federation, old habits die hard I guess. We'll see it sooner than later, most Britons realize they made a huge mistake with Brexit even though the pain has scarcely been felt yet. There is due course ahead.
Now, continue bragging about isolationism as an economic boon, lol.
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There's no reason why France of Germany would want to give up the economic benefits of being in the largest free trade bloc in the world, and one that works very well for them, and gives them tremendous advantages in negotiating trade agreements with other nations in the world. Whilst the UK will be able to negotiate its own trade deals, it will be in a much weaker negotiating position with India, China, USA,Brazil, etc. as even as a large economy overall, it is a fraction of the size of the EU. Even if negotiating with the EU takes twice as long, the value is ten times as big.
The people you elect to represent you can not spell Potato nor tell the difference between Austria and Australia.
But you will do the same thing again and again and expect a different result this time.
How can this be moderated -1???
Tell is what's not true about the above.
EU is not a real democracy.. Just look at how presidents of the institutions are elected.. Not much of it is done in the open, and probably less than 1% knows who, and what, have those positions or what their responsibilities are..
Feel free to educate yourself a bit more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
I would not oppose EU that much if.
* Less overhead..... ~30000 people at the moment with all the politicians and public officials. It should just be an oversight over the other countries..
* More transparency... There are too many things happening in the shadows without a chance for input from ordinary people. (most of the time anyway..)
* The "EU President" (please read the link above!) was elected by the people thru a public election.
* EU laws should only be to prevent countries from limiting peoples freedoms, not imposing laws that does limit freedoms.
* EU should not have aid programs like they do for farming etc. Except for helping out in severe crisis situations.
* EU should not have aid programs to redistribute wealth to poorer countries. Possible it could have programs where they make it more beneficial for companies to invest in those countries to allow for a more natural growth in the country.
This could be to make it more economical to do production in those countries by lowering taxation for goods produced in those countries.
* EU should not force countries to take in migrants. Refugees yes, migrants no.
* Stop limiting countries from implementing border-checks when it's been proven that the external checks don't work and that illegal migrants continues..
* Free movement - fine.. But it should not be allowed to move to a new country without a way to support yourself there. It should work like a automatic work-permit but with the previous requirements we had before the EU.
Eh, no. And no again
Germany, France and the UK (in that order) are the 3 largest economies in the Union by far, but combined their GDP currently makes up around 51,2 % of that of the whole union. The UK by itself represents around 14,4 % of the total economy, France is 16 % and Germany is 20 %.
The remaining 24 countries are miniscule in size compared to these 3, but in total are roughly as big as these three. After the UK leaves, the shares will change so that Germany will grow to be around 24 % of the whole economy, while France's share goes up to around 19. This means that the other remaining EU countries together actually dwarf Germany and France in size.
Secondly, there are currently 10 member states that pay into the union more than they take out of it. In addition to Germany, France and the UK these include the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Austria, Italy and Ireland (granted Ireland and Italy pretty much break even so their contribution is not major). Spain (5th largest economy in the union after Italy) also pretty much breaks even although they still currently receive slightly more than they pay in.
What? The EU, for all its numerous flaws is still a succesful economic zone with a total GDP second only to the US once the UK leaves, so thinking that France or Germany would want to leave/shatter the union when it has benefited them the most as the biggest economies in the zone, or that 1 of them leaving would automatically trigger the collapse of the whole union and/or massive war is misguided. Especially now with the situation of Russia being what it is, there are very few leaders on a national level that would even want to leave, because reverting back to a bunch of solitary nation states is both economically damaging and is also essentially equal to surrending massive amounts of influence and control over to Russia, US and China, which from a purely game theory point of view of (geo)politics is a dumb as fuck move (for both the smaller states who will then be at the mercy of these larger players, as well as the big economies like France and Germany whose global influence/power would be greatly diminished if the Union stopped existing). This is something that both France and Germany understand well.
Think of it is this way: after the UK goes, the choice faced by Germany and France will be the following: they can either continue as the 2 major rulers of the 2nd largest economy in the world 7 times the size of Russia, or they can choose to return to a situation in which they control only their own economies that are roughly equal to that of Russia and are massive dwarfed by the US and China thereby essentially sidelining themselves from the big league of the world economies,
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous" -Alfred North Whitehead
So people who are legitimate European copyright holders are going to get paid. That notion must suck for Facebook and other US companies. Shame on you Slashdot.
Because in the past, wars were fought over resources ands "lebensraum"; farmland, living space, resources. At the national level, these wars could be avoided if countries cooperated and agreed to share resources (fishery stocks, mineral resources, farmland, river waterflow). So the EU seemed a good idea for 50 years after World War II.
We're still having those fights but now but on a smaller scale; affordable housing, green spaces, rights of way along new property developments.
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The EU managed to grind along, until one country decided unilaterally they they would invite millions of people in from the South Mediterranean, they discovered that they didn't have the resources to handle this, and would the rest of Europe please take their fair share. At the same time, it's getting increasingly obvious that the EU is one giant gravy train for ex-national politicians (MEP's) lobbyists and euro-corporations, especially through alternative media like forums and blogs.
When the population starts seeking their news from alternative sources where everyone can join in the discussion, the incumbents suddenly decide that this is "fake news" and start to campaign to have it blocked. Then nationalist parties are starting to question all the money being sent to the EU in return for economic policies being decided hundreds of miles away that have no benefit for the local population. That is then labelled "populism" and a return to the 1930's.
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You're a moron. Your "populist revolution" is a joke 30% of trolls and inbred nitwit racists upset they're being passed over by the world. Wah. The reason Clinton lost is because PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE HILLARY CLINTON. That's really it. She wasn't even responsible for all of that, maybe 1/2. Trump committed high crimes and was in violation of emoluments on day 1, he's done. Your tongue waggery changes nothing, the GOP has stared your insanity in the mouth and decided it's probably not worth going batshit crazy when they can just give themselves tax breaks and call it a day.
You assume either Germany or France is DUMB ENOUGH to think they'd gain something from leaving a 40~ year trade settlement overnight with NOTHING TO REPLACE IT WITH? The EU is better without you, frankly. You want to rule instead of be part of a federation, old habits die hard I guess. We'll see it sooner than later, most Britons realize they made a huge mistake with Brexit even though the pain has scarcely been felt yet. There is due course ahead.
Now, continue bragging about isolationism as an economic boon, lol.
They'd gain sovereignty and security. Who says they wouldn't have anything to replace it with? They'd simply renegotiate trade at better (for them) terms. The rest of the EU is entirely dependent upon the big three, and they know it.
" is unfixable and unwilling to admit it could do with improvement. It must go in its entirety " = BOLLOCKS, because you have no replacement to offer and you need the functionality the EU provides, if you don't like everything that's reasonable.
In a word, no. There are more ways to work together than the One True Blessed Way that the Eurocrats offer^Wforce everyone to accept OR ELSE.
So no, I don't agree we can't live without the EU. And that's as a citizen of one of the founding members. Again, I'm not in the UK, TYVM.
Running away suddenly in the middle of the night and joining the circus-economy, that's not going to crush the EU, that's going to crush the UK.
The UK will probably be better off by a large margin, actually. The Eurocrats really don't want to admit it, but just like the American patent system as it is today is as bad as or worse than having no patent system at all (see relevant science on the topic), the totality of the EU superstructure is actually costing more than it pays.
Face facts, UK cannot survive as an island apart. You are headed for decline if you wish to relive the empire of the past.
The world is rather bigger than the EU. For example: The EU still has no free trade treaty with India. The UK outside the EU could get one in a hartbeat, opening up a humongous and growing market for all sorts of goods and services. If they play their cards right, they'll be much, much better off.
There's a reason the pound is still a thing and they never adopted the Euro. The EU is France, Germany, and the UK, plus a bunch of troublesome leeches.
Go take a look at the net contributions (ie contributions minus subsidies) per capita.
If the UK actually follows through and leaves, France and Germany are going to be playing chicken to see who stays in the longest. The instant one of them leaves, the EU is dead,
It's a dead man walking as is. The question is how long before it'll collapse, not whether it will.
and Europe will go back to doing what it does best - warring with itself.
Eh, I think we can find more ways to make love instead of war even without the EU. The idea of working together is a fine one, but the Eurocratic execution leaves a lot to be desired, and the overpaid shmucks in Brussels won't learn.
The scaremongering about the UK economy isn't about the UK, it's FUD meant to keep France and Germany on the hook as long as possible.
Not just France and Germany, but yes, ideology before reality.
Nope. EU expected that everyone attempting to cross the border will try to do so at a border crossing - you know, like in a civilized world.
This is not remotely a valid counter. Nor is the rest. It's an admision of utter incompetence.
EU though that we, as civilization, have moved pass that. They were wrong, but I can't really blame them.
I can, and do. You don't move past hurdles by pretending they aren't there.
EU did not cause that.
They did nothing to stop it and everything to cause the influx to increase, despite the lick of paint they attempted to give it.
They ought to have simply sent everyone coming in back, dragged the boats right back to the other shore, and so on. You know, like Australia does. Instead the EU forced member countries to accept more fortune seeking shmucks, and some Eurocrats even went there and distributed propaganda about how wonderful living in the EU would be, as a "refugee".
So yeah, this is squarely on the head of the EU, no question.
[...] EU never said it has "strategic interest" in Middle East.
Rather they have a "strategic interest" in "rejuvenating the aging population". They just fumbled the details with the cultural differences, is all.
EU never sent troops there in the name of "national security". That was some other country.
The member states willingly assisted on "evidence" that was laughable on its face. They knew or at least ought to have known that going there would destabilise the region, creating opportunity for the violent radicals they said they were there to get rid of. It's the sort of thing you get when you let incomptetents run the show.
Racists upset they're being passed over by the world?
The world? I don't think if you've noticed, but the only part of the world that gives a single toss about racism is a western white minority with negative birth rates. The rest of the world enjoys being openly racist against neighbors as well as Westerners (except being racist against white westerners is politically sanctioned as a correct and just move). The Arabs and generally all Semite people still refer to blacks with their words for the term "slave", China and East Asia have only ever-increasingly horrible things to say about blacks the more they involve themselves in Africa for economic reasons, Slavs i'm not even going to discuss since they hate leftism as much as they hate nazism out of historical reasons of both fucking them up, Indians and surrounding people (China and Pakis) are all at each others throats with Sikhs and Buddhists in the middle, Africa itself is also a giant jumble, while Japs, Koreans and Chinese hate each other and all think the South-East islanders are inferior monkeys. South America has more segregation than 60's USA while we hear of Mexicans and Latinos trying to ethnically cleanse blacks from US cities on a yearly basis. All the world is racist without giving a toss, while you are stuck in a minority anti-racist population my little friend.
You're missing the obvious common principle that unites the beliefs: "I deserve free money."
Right. Democracy can't exist without populism. One is integral to the other. Democracies need to take the concerns of average people seriously or the government is not behaving democratically. This has been happening more and more over the last 35 years. Now we are seeing people electing those they hate just to shout "We still exist!"
Unfortunately the response by many that are doing well to people ignored and desperate for a voice is: "You are deplorable, less than human [bigots | racists | Nazis etc.]. Kindly die in silence."
Not a particularly persuasive argument. And now Brexit and Trump. The road will only continue until those "deplorables" are no longer ignored and belittled.
Explained joke is explained.
ROFLMA. St Theresa went out there a few months ago and they told her to jolly well do the fucking off. There is so much protectionism in the Indian economy it's beyond a joke.
If anything happens at all it'll be tiny minor concessions for the Ruperts in the banks in return for something like H1B on steroids.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Just wait. It will be the Firewall of Mecca, eventually.
Have they already forgotten about Stalin?
Also another reason to ditch the EU.
the Presidency has worked hard in order to make the proposal for the new copyright Directive even more harmful than the Commission's original proposal, and pushing it further into the realms of illegality
"Illegality" is the wrong word, as these people are writing what will become the law. "Illegitimacy" seems a better word to describe laws decided on behalf of the People but against its will.
they have all been bought by murican ip corporate nazis anyways,
Hahahahaha being this delusional...
Russia didn't elect Trump. I did.
Getting rid of Trump won't get rid of me.
You Bernie Bros like to whine about revolution. It already happened. You were just on the wrong side.
Everyone I disagree with is a racist fuckwit too!
You are seriously a fucking moron.
Also "Racist" doesn't mean what you think it means, dipshit
We (the UK) don't want to rule anyone but ourselves. We refuse to be ruled by anyone else however.
48% of us aren't realising we made a huge mistake. We've known it all along.
No, your children are not the special ones. Nor are your pets.
Speak for yourself. I'd rather be ruled by people who actually care about me and my rights. They could be Martians for all it matters.
No, your children are not the special ones. Nor are your pets.
Please get your chronology right! The USSR was formed 10 years after the Titanic sank. The ship's sinking was actually a Bolshevik plot.
We need more, many more, .onion domains hosted. It should be a matter of principle to have a regular WWW/TLD and the same content served as .onion.
Technical drawbacks, that in my opinion hold back wider adoption are:
1. Unreadibility/lack of memorability of the URL's, that are just hashes. DNS is friendlier for humans.
2. Direct tie of key to domain (hash). Can't periodically change the key, which is good hygiene, without changing the site name.
Still, it's probably the best way to focus on, all things considered.
You're confusing the word populist, as it's applied to politicians, and populist, as it's applied to an ideologue. They're really used in very different ways.
A populist ideologue is someone who believes in popular rule. This could be anything from a direct democracy advocate to an anarchist. These people are generally left of center.
When a politician is called a populist, it's an insult. It doesn't imply any political ideology, be it left or right or other, it just means that they're catering to the lowest common denominator. They make lots of promises in order to gain power, promises which are generally infeasible if not outright impossible. Their supporters are either too ignorant to know they're being lied to, or too desperate to care.
But Avarist said the USSR was responsible for the tip of the iceberg!
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The emoluments lause is about bribery not businesses operating as they normally do. Do you think Jefferson's farm ever sold goods to a foreigner?
The Trump base is very significant, but hardly a majority, and it's getting smaller demographically. It's in something of a panic now that the world is changing in ways it doesn't like. I sympathize with some (not nearly all) of their concerns, but they're trying to turn the calendar back and that simply isn't going to work.
The media seems to be largely what it was in the 1960s and 1970s, except that there's less money in it and hence fewer big stories and exposes. It's not in a major decline. It always was like this. The difference is that there's lots of other sources of more or less news, and a large number of people have found the mainstream media saying things they don't like.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
The EU needs the UK less than the UK needs the EU, and there will be political pressure to make the new trade agreements less favorable.
In the meantime,the UK has been getting a lot of US business because it's an English-speaking country with a large economy that's in the EU. The EU is a far larger market than the UK, so it's more important for businesses to have offices somewhere in the EU than the UK.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
It's lack of financial responsibility and stuff like this and the 27 states wonder why the UK is leaving. Well the answer is that we hate the lack of control of our own borders, the lack of democracy and the enormous bills.
..was an optimist. He failed to forsee the Internet and the power it gives to governments.
Indians do like it. Payback time or karma as they would call it.
The harm it has done probably mostly lies in the fact that it has done nothing. ... more or less... supposing you're american, the EU is nothing like the united lobbies of the free world or mother russia-conglomerate ... it's a paper union, a dream, no one has ever in 2000 years of local history (definitely not before that) actually conquered and united europe whereas the other 'unions' were all forged and baptised in blood and fire (this might still be an option it seems b/c everyone is crying for strong men) . If i go out here and ask 100 people on the EU, i think about 90 will shrug it off due to severe apathy on politics and/or call it "just another layer of taxes". The forced help on member states from anything , greece, whatnot has not gone down very well in a period where cost of life goes up, wages dont and unemployemnt actually goes down. They have virtually handed the place on a silver platter to extremists and now try to combat it with censorship and even raids for speaking out in "hate speech" online and what not and what not
... they seem to be lofty on human rights but not very shy to break rules for raison d'état. This censorship thing doesnt surprise me at all. I doubt it will pass but the lords of mordor are scared of the monster they created by being very pc-principal
if that makes any sense at all , merkel is euhm, definitely not the new hitler but in her attempts to unify she missed a few rotting spots lol ... its a bad economic climate to go save the world and expect a few to carry a lot and its somewhat hard to just turn back ... brexit ... maybe frexit ... if the flemish nationalists had their way they'd not only split from the wallons and brussels, but also from europe (i dont know this works in their dreamworld economically b/c there's virtually no actual production and the bit of tourism certainly cant carry so its services, services services, and logistics ... i can see that here in hickville .. the industrial zone maybe has two or three actual production facilities, the rest is all office and distribution centers)
meaning less jobs on the same amount of space
people here arent really ashamed to call themselves racist a lot of the time and some arent really ashamed to call out loud how nice it would be if "uncle Dolf" came back
and this is not really the hard core of europe so ....
if they think censorship is going to fix it, it should show how well they're doing (but maybe i should be careful what i say hahah)
most crying for a breakup don't really see the whole consequence of a broken euro and back to the original currency i once read an article on how if greece were to go back to drachme, effective capital of people would be halved, as in can buy half for the money they have now after conversion, im not an economist but i have no reason to disbelieve that either
in soviet hellgium, you need a license to wipe your ass, CO-tax soon applied for breathing out ...
if it were to break it would be a financial disaster for all but the rich ones (mostly those who kept their own currency i suppose) xept luxembourg, no idea how they would be affected by going back to the franc. And theres the thing with refugees (which also was like giving it up to the rightwing on a gold platter) where they just keep taking more than they can afford and every member state just has to go with it. Again, in times where life is costly and income is hard to get, solidarity has its limits , and so on
Free speech was meant to be free for all... how can anyone grow up in a nanny state ?
Says a fuckwit asshole who's paid by the Chinese government to spread destabilization propaganda to his own people.