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Android Always Beats the iPhone To New Features, Qualcomm Says (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Qualcomm has published a somewhat self-congratulatory blog post that lauds the company and its Android partners for achieving a series of industry firsts that include wireless charging, dual-camera systems, OLED smartphone screens, edge-to-edge displays, and more -- features that the upcoming iPhone is expected to have. Apple and Qualcomm are currently embroiled in what's turning into a vicious, global patent licensing dispute. So the timing of this adulation for Android -- hours before Apple's big September event -- doesn't really strike me as coincidental. It can't be. Qualcomm never mentions Apple by name; the closest the company ever comes is with this line: Inventions from Qualcomm lay the foundation for so many technologies and experiences we value in our smartphones today -- on Android and other platforms.

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  1. True... but so what? by Kenja · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Am I the only one who is kind of tired of feature creep and the constant upgrade treadmill?

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    1. Re:True... but so what? by toonces33 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I still have an S5. And I replaced the battery not that long ago. There are no real features that excite me about newer phones, and given the lack of replaceable batteries in newer models, it could be a while before I get another.

    2. Re:True... but so what? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

      Well with the battery glued in on all the models YOU WILL UPGRADE whether you like it or not.

      I guess Apple is good at innovating with this wonderful idea. Thanks Apple. Grrrr

    3. Re:True... but so what? by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      Am I the only one who is kind of tired of feature creep and the constant upgrade treadmill?

      Because we are older, wiser, and rational. Young whippersnappers get laid by having the latest toys and fashion because they think with their under-parts, not brains.

      Yes, and do get off my lawn.

       

    4. Re:True... but so what? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well with the battery glued in on all the models YOU WILL UPGRADE whether you like it or not.

      I guess Apple is good at innovating with this wonderful idea. Thanks Apple. Grrrr

      It's not like Apple made the battery part of the outer-shell of the phone.

      Jeezus, this is supposed to be a TECH site, and people are scared of a little GLUE??? Hand in your Geek Cards immediately!!!

      Also, Apple has STOPPED gluing batteries in; so although you do have disassemble the phone to replace the battery in an iPhone, you no longer have to fight the glue demons. There are 3 adhesive strips; but they aren't as mean as glue.

      But, if you're squeamish about messing around inside of a device like a smartphone, Apple and several third-party vendors will be happy to do that battery replacement for you for about $100 (including the battery).

  2. To be fair, who cares? by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 2

    Honestly, some of these ballyhooed features are a big yawn. Edge-to-edge display? Why? Your hand will be covering some of it. Wireless charging? Meh. Until it can charge from across the room, it's not that important. Dual cameras? What are you doing with them? The magic is in the software. OLED should have been ubiquitous by now. I saw OLED displays 10+ years ago. Make me one for my MacBook Pro (and make it 17 inches, please).

    1. Re:To be fair, who cares? by avandesande · · Score: 2

      OLED uses more power that's probably why they haven't been used in portables.

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    2. Re:To be fair, who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually wireless charging is a big thing for the automotive use case. With the advent of WiFi and BT wireless communication, you can just throw your phone in a wireless charging cubby hole and away you go..I agree on the edge display.. it's a gimmick, since the cost of the device is so high people are adding cases, negating the utility of edge displays.

    3. Re:To be fair, who cares? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

      (and make it 17 inches, please).

      I hope you're referring to the screen on your MacBook Pro.

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  3. Not always by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apple had rounded corners first. Suck that Android scum.

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  4. Re:Yippee Kai-ya by raburton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Perhaps you forgot to read even the summary, this is a hardware maker talking about hardware features. IOS updates, however rapidly and widely distributed, are never going to be able to add any of the features listed above.

  5. Android makes it first, Apple makes it best by jandrese · · Score: 2

    It really shouldn't be a surprise that Android phones usually come out with features first, there are many companies making the phones and on aggregate have a much more frequent release cycle than Apple. Apple however usually puts in the time to make sure a feature is useful and well considered before adding it to the phone. So it's late getting an OLED phone, but Apple's probably won't turn yellow after a year or two.

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  6. Meaningless by JohnFen · · Score: 2

    This is just a standard corporate pissing contest, which has no actual meaning to anyone else.

  7. OLED by backslashdot · · Score: 2

    OLED suffers from burn-in -- which means a "ghost image" gets permanently imprinted if the same image is displayed for too long. That's because OLED color pixels degrade disproportionately over time. An issue last seen in the 1990s CRT monitors. It's not a good technology if you want your phone to last a few years. Hopefully Micro LED will be along soon if they can work out its mass production issues. I am waiting on that.

  8. OS security upgrades by tepples · · Score: 2

    You chose to upgrade.

    Only because the alternative to upgrade is remote exploitation when an intruder uses a vulnerability in system software that has reached its end of official support on hardware that has reached its end of official support. Or is Lineage OS recommended?

  9. Build apps from source on your Mac by tepples · · Score: 2

    iOS isn't even a serious option as long as it forces users to use Apple's repository

    Technically, you don't absolutely have to use Apple's repository. Instead, you can download an app's source code to your Mac and use Xcode to build it for testing on your iPod, iPhone, or iPad.

  10. Re:Iphone by CrazyBusError · · Score: 2

    Well yes - it's not often that Android users get to brag about that, is it?

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  11. Always? by theurge14 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The first iPhone was unveiled in January of 2007.

    At the time Qualcomm and Android were protyping Blackberry-looking phones.

    It wasn't until late 2008 until the first Android smartphone came out, with a slide-out keyboard looking like an old T-Mobile Sidekick. And it was still a few years after that until we got the slick Samsung phones that people now associate as "Android phones".

    I know 10 years ago is foggy distant old-timer memory for many of the younger tech industry types, but let's get a bit of perspective here.

    1. Re:Always? by rjstanford · · Score: 2

      Don't forget functional visual voicemail either. Its fun to go back and rewatch the old release keynote to see the gasps and remember just how much of what was being released with the first iPhone really was staggeringly more advanced and usable than the competition. If anything the other "smart phones" were really just PDAs with a scary "internet" button.

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  12. Security by michael_cain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hardware support for encrypted user data that not even Apple can break short of disassembling the chip?

  13. Awww, someone's jelaous by Imazalil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is the point of Qualcomm posting this? If they listed things they themselves "invented" then I can sort of understand, but this is just smells of teenage angst, jealousy, and desperation.

    We all know Apple's new chips will spank Qualcomm once again, and this is not how your PR department responds? Sigh.

  14. Re:Iphone by JohnFen · · Score: 4, Informative

    Other than feature phones, then yes, only an Apple fan *can* say their phone is still working fine.

    Pure BS. My Android phone is over four years old, and is working just fine.

  15. Re:Iphone by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2

    I assume you are being sarcastic in your post, because nothing there looks like an original idea. If you look at the market, everyone is borrowing from each other. Apple is not always about being there first, but getting the packaging in a way people want to use.

    The myOrigo looks like the interface was essentially a Java Swing implementation, with elements borrowed from MacOS and Windows. Before the iPhone there was the Newton, Symbian, PalmOS and Windows CE, amongst others. They each had technology elements that the iPhone would incorporate, but they failed to package it in a way that got the attention of the non-engineer market. According to online sources the first smartphone was released around 1993, with the term being coined around 1995.

    Microsoft made the first tablet, but didn't get it packaged in a way that had mass market appeal. One of the issues seems to be wanting to have the Windows branding everywhere, even where it doesn't make sense.

    You can have the best gizmo, but if you can't appeal to the market, does it matter? Sometimes the first mover advantage can be a disadvantage.

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  16. That's a common misconception by Solandri · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You do realize Apple doesn't actually make any of this stuff, right? They buy them from the same suppliers who make it for Android phones. They get their flash memory from Toshiba and Samsung (the Samsung memory is slightly faster). RAM is from SK Hynix. They get their LED screens from LG, and will get their OLED screens from Samsung. Their camera is sourced from Sony. The cellular and wireless chipsets are from Qualcomm. The much-hyped headphone jack-less audio is by Cirrus Logic. Same with virtually every component that goes into the iPhone.

    The only things which are Apple's are the CPU (which they designed, although they use third party fabs to manufacture it - Samsung and TSMC), the fingerprint scanner (they bought the company which makes them back around 2012), and the software.

    So the Apple fans who tell themselves that "Apple makes it best" are deluding themselves as a way to rationalize paying an exorbitant price for the same components which go into Android phones.

  17. Is Qualcomm getting desperate? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2

    Qualcomm seems to be desperate for someone to notice them? They lost the CDMA market in favour of GSMA based communication, they complain that Apple is limiting the capability of their chips and now they want to put down Apple. Does it matter who gets to market first, especially if the technology is rushed to market? Sometimes waiting and getting the kinks sorted matters more.

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  18. Re:Yippee Kai-ya by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 2

    My Commodore 64 has '64' right in it's brand name.

    Same deal with my Nintendo 64.

  19. 64 Bit by pebbert · · Score: 2

    Apple beat Qualcomm to 64 bit processors by years. Major black eye for Qualcomm.

  20. Re:Iphone by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 2

    Almost by definition, any company that uses an ARM chip has their own ARM chip design.

    But you apparently don't know jack shit about how ARM licenses the CPU core.

    Apple is just 'special' in your mind, because, again, you don't know jack shit about how ARM licenses the CPU core.

  21. Re:Who can suck the most? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    iOS isn't even a serious option as long as it forces users to use Apple's repository

    It doesn't. As an individual, you can install anything that you build yourself. As a company, you can set up your own internal distribution if you enrol in the iOS Developer Enterprise Programme.

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  22. Re:Who can suck the most? by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    So as a non programmer who's device isn't managed by a company like 99.9% of the iPhone users, it still does?

    Thanks for clarifying.

  23. Re:Who can suck the most? by rjstanford · · Score: 2

    There's an interesting Venn diagram there though. Anyone who's a developer can drop software that they compile onto their iPhone. Anyone who's part of the general public gets a remarkably secure (and surprisingly spacious) Walled Garden. The gap that Android etc do fill better can be represented by folk who think they want to disable all of the safeties but don't actually want to (or know how to) take the simple steps to show that they understand them.

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  24. Re:Iphone by jon3k · · Score: 2
    You think you invented touch screen cell phones in 2005?

    FingerWorks, a gesture recognition company, produced a line of multi-touch products in 1998, including the iGesture Pad and TouchStream keyboard. The company was acquired by Apple in 2005.

    Not to mention the real innovation was multi-touch. Touchscreens were nothing new.