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Why Is 'Blade Runner' the Title of 'Blade Runner'? (vulture.com)

Why is Blade Runner called Blade Runner? Though the viewer is told in the opening text of Ridley Scott's 1982 original that "special Blade Runner units" hunt renegade replicants -- and though the term "Blade Runner" is applied to Harrison Ford's Rick Deckard a few times in the film -- we're never given an explanation of where the proper noun comes from. The novel upon which Blade Runner was based, Philip K. Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, offers no clues either.
Readers share a report: Our story begins with a mysterious writer by the name of Alan E. Nourse. According to the Des Moines Register, he was born in that city in 1928 to Bell Telephone Company engineer Benjamin Nourse and a woman named Grace Ogg. Young Alan moved to Long Island with his family at age 15, attended Rutgers, served for a couple of years in the Navy as a hospital corpsman, and was awarded a medical degree from the University of Pennsylvania in 1955 before moving to Washington state to practice medicine. Whatever Nourse's skills as a doctor may have been, they were outweighed in the scales of history by his other passion: writing about the medical profession and fantastical worlds of the future. Before he was even done with medical school, he was publishing sci-fi on the side: first came short pieces in anthology magazines like Astounding Science Fiction and Galaxy Science Fiction, then he started publishing novels with titles like Trouble on Titan (1954), Rocket to Limbo (1957), and Scavengers in Space (1959). In 1963, he retired from medicine to focus on his writing, but wrote about learning the healing arts in a 1965 nonfiction book called Intern, published under the intimidating pseudonym "Dr. X." Sci-fi author-editor Robert Silverberg, who knew Nourse, tells me the latter book "brought him much repute and fortune," but in general, he just "wrote a lot of very good science fiction that no one seemed to notice." That changed on October 28, 1974. Sort of. On that day, publishing house David McKay released a Nourse novel that combined the author's two areas of expertise into a single magnum opus: The Bladerunner. It follows the adventures of a young man known as Billy Gimp and his partner in crime, Doc, as they navigate a health-care dystopia. It's the near future, and eugenics has become a guiding American philosophy. Universal health care has been enacted, but in order to cull the herd of the weak, the "Health Control laws" -- enforced by the office of a draconian "Secretary of Health Control" -- dictate that anyone who wants medical care must undergo sterilization first. As a result, a system of black-market health care has emerged in which suppliers obtain medical equipment, doctors use it to illegally heal those who don't want to be sterilized, and there are people who covertly transport the equipment to the doctors. Since that equipment often includes scalpels and other instruments of incision, the transporters are known as "bladerunners." Et voila, the origin of a term that went on to change sci-fi.

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  1. I can't even remember now... by taiwanjohn · · Score: 0

    It's been so long since I read the book... were they called "Bladerunners" in the book too?

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    1. Re:I can't even remember now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, Blade Runner does not occur in the original book. I think Ridley Scott or whoever titled the movie got it from a completely unrelated book and used it just because they liked the name. Ok, found it. Author of unrelated book is William S. Burroughs.

    2. Re:I can't even remember now... by MightyYar · · Score: 3

      That is actually a screenplay version of the earlier novel. In any event, "blade runner" refers to smugglers of medical supplies (like, scalpels). I have to admit, it is a cool name.

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    3. Re:I can't even remember now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The author was actually Alan E. Nourse, and Burroughs wrote a film adaptation from it.

    4. Re:I can't even remember now... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Ah. You read the write-up.

      Or not.

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    5. Re:I can't even remember now... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      In the book, they are referred to as bounty hunters throughout. I guess 'Do androids dream of electric sheep?' was too long for a film poster and 'bounty hunter' didn't sound very science fictiony.

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    6. Re:I can't even remember now... by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 2

      No, Blade Runner does not occur in the original book. I think Ridley Scott or whoever titled the movie got it from a completely unrelated book and used it just because they liked the name. Ok, found it. Author of unrelated book is William S. Burroughs.

      Uh, why are you repeating information that is in the summary, instead of just scrolling up to read it (or better yet, actually reading TFA)?

      Summarizing the summary: The title came from the book The Bladerunner by Alan Nourse, as adapted into an unproduced screenplay by William S. Burroughs.

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    7. Re:I can't even remember now... by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      it was much more loosely based. The big scandal in the book was that replicants were treated differently, but one of their big radio Icons was revealed to be a replicant and it was part of an underground movement for acceptance. What happened in Blade Runner is basically a story that takes place during the universe created by Philip K Dick. The protagonist ends up sleeping with one of the replicants (they used relationships and sex as tools to gain equal status). The 'electric sheep' actually appears in the story, as the protagonist had allowed their sheep to get sick and die and to spare them the scrutiny and loss of status, they replaced it with an android/replicant. In the book, the earth is a dying world and the evolving religion is based around caring for the animals. This is touched on briefly in the first movie where Harrison Ford is searching for a replicant in a marketplace and you see Ostrich and other animals being sold. It's also touched on with the mention of the Off World Colonies advertisements and the reference to the replicant snake the dancer used in her performance when the scales were being analyzed.

    8. Re:I can't even remember now... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      The protagonist ends up sleeping with one of the replicants (they used relationships and sex as tools to gain equal status)

      This event happens in both, but in the book it makes more sense because Rachel and Pris are the same model of replicant. Rachel sleeps with Deckard to try to make him feel empathy towards Pris, so that he'll hesitate before shooting her.

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    9. Re:I can't even remember now... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

      In any event, "blade runner" refers to smugglers of medical supplies (like, scalpels). I have to admit, it is a cool name.

      Or, now, people who smuggle servers (computers, not waiters).

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    10. Re:I can't even remember now... by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

      (computers, not waiters).

      Hey, when I tell a waiter that "this knife is dirty, I want another", I sure as heck expect him to be snappy in getting me a clean one. That makes him a blade runner, too.

    11. Re:I can't even remember now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Decker identifies as a teenage girl, she is a "cutter".

    12. Re:I can't even remember now... by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      You didn't even READ the summary!!!

    13. Re:I can't even remember now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Blade Runner does not occur in the original book. I think Ridley Scott or whoever titled the movie got it from a completely unrelated book and used it just because they liked the name. Ok, found it. Author of unrelated book is William S. Burroughs.

      Yes, that is correct. OF course the dumbass editors here can't be bothered to included that important bit of information in their absurdly long, convoluted summary.

    14. Re:I can't even remember now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They’re Androids or Andys in the book not replicants.

    15. Re:I can't even remember now... by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Hey, when I tell a waiter that "this knife is dirty, I want another", I sure as heck expect him to be snappy in getting me a clean one. That makes him a blade runner

      In that case Podrick Payne is a blade runner too...

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    16. Re:I can't even remember now... by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

      But Nourse wrote an entirely different story. Why would the title of Nouse's story be used in the movie?

    17. Re:I can't even remember now... by dfsmith · · Score: 1

      So Mungo was a blade runner too? “Mungo! Never kill a customer!

    18. Re:I can't even remember now... by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 2

      "this knife is dirty, I want another"

      I will not buy this record, it is scratched. Do you want to come back to my place, bouncy bouncy?

    19. Re:I can't even remember now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it sounded cool. Much cooler than "electric sheep".

    20. Re:I can't even remember now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember at the time a paperback of Nourse's book which had the blub on it "Soon to be a Major Motion Picture!" When Scott's Blade Runner came out I figured that was it. To say I was mildly surprised to find out the movie was actually based on Dick's book was an understatement. Later when I got more wise about how Hollywood worked I figured that some studio probably bought the rights to Nourse's book (including it's title.) The book itself was an anti-Medicare/anti-socialized medicine propaganda piece, though fairly well written for what it was. I suspect they didn't like the politics and so it languished. Scott probably liked the title as the piece says and since the studio owned it he used it.

    21. Re:I can't even remember now... by Larry+Lightbulb · · Score: 1

      Only if you clean out your hovercraft first.

  2. They were going to go with "fucking moron" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And nobody can deny it.

  3. Obligatory Star Trek by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Funny

    Damnit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a transporter!

    No! Damnit Jim, not that kind of transporter!

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    1. Re:Obligatory Star Trek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It's not "Damnit" you fucking moron.

      It's "Dammit" or "Damn it".

    2. Re:Obligatory Star Trek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      please mod this up.

    3. Re:Obligatory Star Trek by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Maybe OP was complaining about those little bugs in his hair.

      Sure he was spelling it wrong, but that doesn't make him a moron.

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    4. Re:Obligatory Star Trek by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      OP was complaining about those little bugs in his hair.

      Nits are the eggs of hair lice, not the lice themselves.

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    5. Re:Obligatory Star Trek by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Oh, OK. I didn't realize that. Thanks for nit-picking my nit joke. :-)

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    6. Re:Obligatory Star Trek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Thanks for nit-picking my nit joke. :-)

      "Have you gone berserk?? Can't you see that this man is a nit?"

  4. Well... by fieldstone · · Score: 1

    Because a blade runner runs around, looking for lost replicants, and then literally or figuratively stabs them until they stop moving.

  5. interesting, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, it seems the question remains: why was Deckard called a 'Blade Runner'? He wasn't smuggling scalpels to black-market doctors.

    1. Re: interesting, but... by Leninix · · Score: 1

      Because heâ(TM)s a killer like Oscar Pistarius

    2. Re: interesting, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Oscar is different. He shoots through bathroom doors because he is a helpless cripple. In the end, he has money and connections so he is better (off) than us.

    3. Re:interesting, but... by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      purely a guess, but perhaps Ridley Scott drew a parallel between this dystopia of a dying world painted by Philip K Dick, and its off world colonies, and the dying world in the book about universal healthcare where everyone is being culled via sterilization?

    4. Re: interesting, but... by losfromla · · Score: 1

      No. I'm happy with my non-blade legs and feet. Is he really better off than you?

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    5. Re: interesting, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Oscar is different. He shoots through bathroom doors because he is a helpless cripple. In the end, he has money and connections so he is better (off) than us.

      No he's not.

      The moment he got beat in the paraolympics, he started bitching about how the guy who beat him had an unfair advantage with "better prosthetics" and actually filed a protest.

      Thus proving right every damn person who said Pistorus had no right to run in the real Olympics with fake legs.

  6. Detailed Explanation at StackExchange by ytene · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Detailed Explanation at StackExchange by argStyopa · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why not just link what stack links to? The ACTUAL explanation:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Quote:
      Blade Runner (a movie) is a science fiction novella by Beat Generation author William S. Burroughs, first published in 1979.[1]
      The novella began as a story treatment for a proposed film adaptation of Alan E. Nourse's novel The Bladerunner. (Some sources describe Burroughs' work as a closet screenplay.) A later edition published in the 1980s changed the formatting of the title to Blade Runner, a movie.
      Burroughs' treatment is set in early 21st century and involves mutated viruses and "a medical-care apocalypse". The term "blade runner" referred to a smuggler of medical supplies, e.g. scalpels.
      No film was ever made; the title Blade Runner was later bought for use in Ridley Scott's 1982 science fiction film, Blade Runner.[1] The plot of that film was based on Philip K. Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? and not the Nourse, Burroughs source material, although the film does incorporate the term "blade runner" into dialogue.

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    2. Re:Detailed Explanation at StackExchange by losfromla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't get why this would be the trait of a Democrap. Isn't it the Repugnicans that are all about enriching the already wealthy and thus would be against giving something away that could alternatively be sold?

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    3. Re:Detailed Explanation at StackExchange by Darkness+Of+Course · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I prefer to get to the source without having to click through some other site. And this was after I had an Amazon link to the book up.

    4. Re:Detailed Explanation at StackExchange by Kellamity · · Score: 1

      Also thanks, Stack is blocked on my work network (don't even ask...)

      So the definitive answer is: 'It's called Blade Runner because that sounded totally cool.'

    5. Re:Detailed Explanation at StackExchange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Democrats like for everyone to do what they tell them to, and use guise of both "the greater good" and victimhood to rationalize about any means to an end.

      Republicans like to have more stuff than other people, and use the logic of them being better people because they have more stuff to rationalize their means to their ends.

      All the rest of us really see little difference between the two, because it simply results in Control Of Us, which we really don't want to hand out, but doritos taste so good and american idol is so shiny.

  7. Money grab by 110010001000 · · Score: 1, Troll

    The Blade Runner sequel is just a money grab, like Prometheus. It is used to setup multiple sequels for the franchise. People who are saying it was an amazing movie are delusional.

    1. Re:Money grab by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 2

      Meh. It's not great, but it is waaayy better than Prometheus.

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    2. Re:Money grab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      really? $30 million box office first weekend and it costs $150. hardly a recipe for a money grab.

    3. Re:Money grab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you actually seen it?

    4. Re: Money grab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Compared to Covenant, Prometheus is High Art.

      The levitating cartography drones are cool, satisfying tech!!

      Almost as kewl as /Red Planet/'s AMEE!!!

      King Fucker Chicken

    5. Re: Money grab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nahhhh. AMEE is a class-of-it's-own.

      KFC

    6. Re:Money grab by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      I thoroughly enjoyed it, loved the deafening soundtrack, and can see the premise for the third installment, making more sense than another Star Trek reboot.

      It doesn't take much to make me happy with a movie, and this has such cinematography that I'm pleased. The lousy opening weekend ticket sales are as much the overstatement of Blade Runner fandom as anything, but patience - this is at least as good as anything from Marvel.

      Oh, and Flame On!

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    7. Re:Money grab by penandpaper · · Score: 1

      As in, worth to go see or wait until Blade Runner 2364?

    8. Re:Money grab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean this film is a 'money grab' and is completely unlike all the other Hollywood films that were apparently made to uplift humanity?

      All films are money grabs. Money is the wind on which the wings of the world flies. If you did not have all the left leaning Hollywood types grabbing money by making movies , the Hollywood types would not be able to afford to keep their high minded disdain for everything that smacks of capitalism and middle america.

    9. Re:Money grab by Misagon · · Score: 1

      It wasn't bad, and it has its moments.

      But everything is relative. There have been a bunch of sequels or reboots to classic movies from the '80s and '90s recently, of which Harrison Ford has starred in two.
      I would say that, what sets Blade Runner 2049 apart the most from the others is that it does not insult its audience, which is primarily the fans of the original movie.

      Too bad that it took this long for Hollywood to finally realise that if you are going to reinvigorate an old franchise - and to successfully play on nostalgia to sell it - you will have to respect the original.

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    10. Re:Money grab by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1

      As much as the film was essentially a failure, I at least felt like I got my money's worth. I kind of feel the same way about it as I did the Robocop remake: Great movies if you have no knowledge of the originals.

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    11. Re:Money grab by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      >if you are going to reinvigorate an old franchise - and to successfully play on nostalgia to sell it - you will have to respect the original.

      I've never understood why you wouldn't. When you don't, you're essentially starting a new franchise, while simultaneously limiting your creative scope AND pissing off the previous incarnation's fans.

      Either make something new (which can often mean nothing more than a new title and switching the character names if you're not particularly inspired), or make something that fits with what's gone before.

      If you respect the past, you have a chance of keeping the old fan base in addition to whoever is newly exposed to your production.

    12. Re:Money grab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Methinks you don't fully understand what "money grab" means...

    13. Re:Money grab by Dantoo · · Score: 1

      I loved it. It further raises and enhances the questions about what defines a human from any other organism.

      Where really is the right of a human to confer "rights" upon their kind and deny them to all others? What is it about humans that both defines them and makes them special beyond reproach?

      When one goal is met by artificial intelligence for immediate bestowal of human rights then what further barriers can we throw down?
      Is having a soul enough? And what is that anyway?
      Being "born of woman"? Can that be a factor?
      What if you don't even exist beyond an AI program but are still able to be self-aware and interact with human emotion?

      What happens when sentient beings (or non-beings) can no longer progress within a society that is closed to them; that remains determined to aggressively deprive them of freedom, peace and ambition?

      When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    14. Re:Money grab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But obviously Hollywood doesn't get it. Look at the long string of movies based on 1980's and 1990's treatments that have basically been turned into irreverent satires where the original property is basically mocked and satirized. And then they wonder why the movies don't do well. Modern audiences have no interests in them and fans resent seeing the properties that they love treated like garbage so a few intellectual elites can make fun of them and the people who have an emotional attachment to the old franchise. Basically they are making fun of your nostalgia. And they wonder why their remakes fail.

  8. I've answered this question yesterday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The title was licensed from "The Bladerunner" by Alan E. Nourse, which is a story about illegal surgical implements.

    The story is based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" by Philip K. Dick, about a cop "retiring" androids.

    Source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083658/trivia?item=tr0753900

    CAP: selfsame

    1. Re:I've answered this question yesterday... by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      I think the cop retiring androids was merely a sub plot for android acceptance and people have really screwed our planet up to the point the animals are all dying

    2. Re:I've answered this question yesterday... by Arab · · Score: 1

      You mean it wasn't about Mercerism and the propensity for people to blindly accept religion?

  9. Alan Nourse, Man of Mystery? by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm baffled that Alan Nourse is refered to as "a mysterious writer by the name of Alan E. Nourse"-- mysterious? Nourse?

    There's nothing mysterious about Alan Nourse, who is pretty well documented. He was a quite popular writer mostly of juveniles (*) back in the 50s and 60s.

    The only mysterious thing was how his name was pronounced: "nurse." Which was apparently amusing, since he interned with a doctor whose family name was "doctor", leading to paging over the intercom of "Paging Doctor Doctor, Doctor Nurse."

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    1. Re:Alan Nourse, Man of Mystery? by Jake+Griffin · · Score: 1

      It's a 1,000 word minimum high school english paper, and "Our story begins with author Alan E. Nourse" wasn't verbose enough.

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    2. Re:Alan Nourse, Man of Mystery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doctor Doctor, tell me the news...

    3. Re:Alan Nourse, Man of Mystery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I keep thinking that the whole thing is just Nourse Mythology.

    4. Re:Alan Nourse, Man of Mystery? by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 1

      I'm baffled that Alan Nourse is refered to as "a mysterious writer by the name of Alan E. Nourse"-- mysterious? Nourse?

      There's nothing mysterious about Alan Nourse, who is pretty well documented. He was a quite popular writer mostly of juveniles (*) back in the 50s and 60s.

      Ah, I'd forgotten that he wrote "A Tiger by the Tail"... Cool story, that.

      He also at one time wrote a medical column for one of the glossy magazines. One of the "Womens' Magazines", I think.

      (Paging Doctor Google....) Yep. "Good Housekeeping."

    5. Re:Alan Nourse, Man of Mystery? by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

      Agreed. He was very well known back when he was writing. I devoured his stuff back in the early sixties when I was in junior high. The list of his works in Wikipedia is by no means complete.

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    6. Re:Alan Nourse, Man of Mystery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember a Reader's Digest humorous article about names and professions. It had Doctor Doctor and Nurse Nurse as well as several other name/profession combinations.

    7. Re:Alan Nourse, Man of Mystery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doctor Doctor is an evil villain pursued by Anita Knight and Victor Volt, assisted by Professor Professor and someone else who's name is Changed Daily...

  10. Because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They didn't want to call it Sling Blade Runner.

  11. Asian stereotyping of course by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

    Originally it was "Braid Runner" after Deckard's fabulous locks but Hollywood kept it after the old Asian guy's stereotyped mispronunciation. :P I kid, I kid!

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    1. Re:Asian stereotyping of course by amicusNYCL · · Score: 0

      How do people keep getting the stereotype so wrong? The languages that are being stereotyped (e.g. Japanese) do not have an L sound, they do have an R sound. People replace L sounds with R sounds, not the other way around. It's not even funny in the first place, and when you get it wrong it's just stupid at that point.

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    2. Re:Asian stereotyping of course by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      The stereotype is that a Japanese person in the future living in a cosmopolitan city like Los Angeles would have any sort of accent. This is what an Asian from LA really sounds like.

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    3. Re:Asian stereotyping of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Japanese certainly does have an "L" sound. I was talking to a co-worker from Japan in a research lab once, and mentioned the movie Ran. He pronounced it Lan.

      The "R" sound in Japanese is a tongue "flap" against the palate behind the teeth, sort of like the "r" in Spanish "para." The catch is, the Japanese consider these the same sound, and they don't have anything like the English "R" to make a distinction.

    4. Re:Asian stereotyping of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Asians don't exist.

    5. Re:Asian stereotyping of course by Megol · · Score: 1

      Nor do Belgians.

    6. Re:Asian stereotyping of course by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      An Asian, you mean like someone from India, or Pakistan?

      The stereotype is that a Japanese person in the future living in a cosmopolitan city like Los Angeles would have any sort of accent.

      Ooh, my mistake, see I thought you were trying to play on the "they can't pronounce this letter, so they pronounce this one instead" stereotype except you got it wrong.

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    7. Re:Asian stereotyping of course by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      I see you missed the whole point in a way. An Asian woman raised in LA probably won't have an Asian accent. An Asian man raised in the UK probably won't have an Asian accent. Asians everywhere will not necessarily have an Asian accent. That was my whole point. Film and TV shows somehow depict them always with accents for no reason. For example Arnold from Happy Days played by Pat Morita had an accent even though Pat Morita does not. The Asian cantina owner from The Fifth Element has an accent: "You are FIR-LED". The Asian cafe owner in 2 Broke Girls has an accent. I could go on.

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    8. Re:Asian stereotyping of course by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      except you got it wrong.

      No I did not. Japanese people have issues pronouncing "L"s. Chinese people have issues with pronouncing "R"s. The character in Blade Runner is wearing an outfit that is closer to Japanese than Chinese.

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  12. Proper Noun? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 0

    Bladerunner is a proper noun.
    Blade runner is a noun and a verb.

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    1. Re:Proper Noun? by Tale+Surovi · · Score: 2

      Blade runner is a noun and a verb.

      No. Both are nouns.

    2. Re:Proper Noun? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Technically, the latter is a noun phrase.

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    3. Re:Proper Noun? by mr_mischief · · Score: 3, Informative

      You and https://slashdot.org/~Tale+Sur... may both be right from different points of view. It seems you may have intended a different context from the actual context of the person to whom you replied.

      "Bladerunner" is a noun.
      "Blade runner" is a noun phrase.

      However, the grandparent post to yours was saying that "blade" is a noun and "runner" is a verb. Tale Surovi quoted that and said "No. Both are nouns.".

      Both "blade" and "runner" are in fact nouns. The root "run" would commonly be a verb (although it can be a noun in "going for a run"). The form "runner", being defined as "one who runs" is a noun.

      I know this is "THE INTERNET" and people don't like to take the time to be thorough. However, if you're taking enough time to be pedantic in the comments try to take enough time to read two whole comments consisting of a total of four short lines of text before correcting someone who is already correct.

      HTH. HAND.

    4. Re:Proper Noun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like to runner around the block with my dog. It's great exercise.

    5. Re:Proper Noun? by dfsmith · · Score: 1

      ‘Dog Runner’---mashup of Marathon Man and Reservoir Dogs?

    6. Re:Proper Noun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > ‘Dog Runner’---mashup of Marathon Man and Reservoir Dogs?

      Or mashup of "The Running Man" and "Best in Show?" :D

  13. Nourse, "mysterious"? by whitroth · · Score: 2

    Is the author of the article A. Idiot? What's "mysterious" about Nourse? Don't think I ever met him at a con, but... oh, right, maybe what's "mysterious" is that the author doesn't actually know diddly-squat about SF, and hasn't actually read anything that doesn't tie to a movie or tv show.

    1. Re:Nourse, "mysterious"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is PR disguised as an article. It was written to advertise the movie, which hasn't does as well as expected - despite many excellent reviews from so-called professional reviewers, and a generally well received reception by the public.

    2. Re:Nourse, "mysterious"? by NewAccount · · Score: 0

      OTOH, it's much nicer than saying "obscure, unknown or forgotten," which I think might also might fit. Frankly there's no requirement that the article author needs to be a science fiction fan at all. Don't get your panties in a bunch!

  14. They're in charge of running blades by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Still need server admins in the future.

    1. Re:They're in charge of running blades by rickb928 · · Score: 2

      And backups.

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  15. The comic tried to explain it by dirk · · Score: 1

    I just read this bit (http://www.cbr.com/marvel-solved-blade-runner-title/) on CBR. The comic book tried to put in an explanation for the phrase (and did a pretty good job of it), but of course that doesn't make it canon.

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  16. Who's on first? by Stavr0 · · Score: 1

    "Yes, I know about the nurse, but who's the doctor?"

    "Doctor Nourse"

    "He can't be a doctor and a nurse at the same time."

    "No, he's the doctor. Doctor Nourse."

    "That doesn't make any sense!"

    1. Re:Who's on first? by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      The assistant's name is Paging. The office manager is named Stat.

    2. Re:Who's on first? by Megane · · Score: 1

      Surely you must be joking.

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    3. Re:Who's on first? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you can go on for dessert to figure out how you address a practitioner who has earned the degree of Doctorate of Nursing Practice (DNP.) :)

    4. Re:Who's on first? by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      Who's the doctor attending today?

    5. Re:Who's on first? by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      I am serious... and don't call me Shirley.

    6. Re:Who's on first? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me doctor, you patient, she nurse.
      Be patient, she nurse your wife.

    7. Re:Who's on first? by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

      "No, he's the doctor. Doctor Nourse."

      No, me doctor, you Mr. Bertenshaw.

  17. Based on old saying? by magusxxx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I always thought it was an updated term for 'walking on a razor's edge.' - Someone who is precariously balanced between safety and danger. And between being human or a replicant.

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    1. Re: Based on old saying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope.

    2. Re:Based on old saying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's as good a reason as any, in a retcon sort of way.

    3. Re:Based on old saying? by ScooterComputer · · Score: 2

      I also had always inferred a similar concept with the title. It might not have been THE reason, but, to me, IMHO, it bespeaks a certain "tell" of the morality of the story. Excepting for the discussion the nonsense of Ridley Scott saying Deckard was a replicant, the role of a "blade runner" was effectively that of a stone-cold killer operating under the color of law. Even in the opening crawl that moral quandary is pretty directly alluded to: "This was not called execution. It was called retirement."

      I always took "blade runner" to have a dual-meaning whereby those cops were effectively running on the fine edge of what society could accept as legal, and was legal; they're out there "retiring" replicants, with extreme prejudice, and it is "OK" only because no one really has stopped to think about why ethically it shouldn't be. And I think that is reflected in Deckard's story... he's reached the end of it, he's seen the moral failure in the act of what amounts to murdering replicants who are showing very "human" responses and emotions. Therein reveals a further hidden irony: "blade runners" aren't merely appropriately named because of the dangerousness of their actions, or the razor-thin morality of their actions, but also perhaps for how far out on the edge of human tolerance for suffering they must run. Deckard is clearly spent--physically, emotionally, morally--and by the end of the movie is clearly able to see how psychotic he had become. And breaks. Which obviously leads to the sequel.

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    4. Re:Based on old saying? by volmtech · · Score: 1

      While visually stunning I can't suspend my disbelief of the premise. Why couldn't the replicants have a serial number encoded into their DNA? Why not simply take a photograph of each one before they were turned loose and use facial recognition to identify them?

  18. 20% return in a few days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish I could make back 20% of my investments in a weekend. Also nobody says that a money grab has to be successful to be called a money grab.

    1. Re:20% return in a few days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop by my house on Saturday. Invest your $100K with me and I'll give you $20K of it back. Seems like you'd be happy with me keeping the other $80K.

    2. Re: 20% return in a few days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, sounds like I'll expect you to immediately repay 1/5of the loan, then by about six months, you're paying me sfour times what I loaned you, and you still haven't paid down the principal.

  19. Because someone liked the name by Baleet · · Score: 1

    "[Hampton] Fancher found a cinema treatment by William S. Burroughs for Alan E. Nourse's novel The Bladerunner (1974), titled Blade Runner (a movie).[nb 2] Scott liked the name, so Deeley obtained the rights to the titles."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    In other words, no logical reason. They just liked the way it sounded.

  20. From the mystery-solved department? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More like "from the stupid question department."

    Why the hell do you Google the answer to your question, then post the answer to Slashdot in the form of a question?

    Do you really think anyone here is going to have a better answer?

    (Answer: no. But they will click on the story to say it's stupid, like I did, and maybe accidentally click on the slow-loading ad at the top of the story... like I did.)

  21. Bow Street Runners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_Street_Runners

    Runner was slang for the early London police.

  22. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  23. And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The author was actually Alan E. Nourse, and Burroughs wrote a film adaptation from it.

    And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent.

    Setting: Dystopia with eugenics gone wrong: If you want to get medical treatment (from the official sources) you have to get sterilized, too. So there's an underground of illegal doctors, surgeons, etc. (A "Blade runner" is a courier for a supplier of loaner surgical kits.)

    Along comes a really nasty flu - with essentially 100% lethaltity if you don't get an immunization. Oops! Complications ensue.

    (This is becoming topical again, with the government taking control of medical care and both parties using it for social policy implementation. Though the original Eugenics craze went away when the NAZIs ran it into the ground, some of its ideas are resurfacing.)

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    1. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by sound+vision · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Where and how has the government tried to use the medical system to implement social policy? The only significant intersection between social issues and medicine I can think of is abortion, and in most cases the religious radicals have failed to get the government to do their bidding in those clinics. (Unfortunately not here in Texas, where in the past decade pregnancy related deaths have risen to the level of an African nation.)

    2. Re:And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you want to get medical treatment (from the official sources) you have to get sterilized, too.

      I think that's also in the recent Republican ACA repeal and replace plans.

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    3. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by ScentCone · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Last spring my 80-something mom came back from a doctor's appointment mentioning that the nurse who checked her in and asked the usual questions about her daily health also, clipboard in hand, asked her if there were guns in the house, how they were stored, and who (including names and relationships) had access to them. Even my mom, who normally has a completely deferential reaction to authority figures ("the doctor" or "the guy directing traffic around the pothole crew" or "the assistant manager at the grocery store") was (as a girl raised in a household where everybody hunted, and guns were a normal tool found in everyday life) was so surprised at the questions that she actually pushed back and said, "Why are you asking that?"

      She said she was expecting some remark about older people and suicide prevention or something, but the nurse said, "It's something we have to ask now. It's part of all the public health reporting we have to do." Considering how often some activists talk about trying to get around the Bill of Rights by treating gun ownership as a disease, I'd say that there were indeed policy fingerprints all over that one.

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    4. Re:And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by MoaDweeb · · Score: 2

      Really? I live in a civilised country that has State funded health care and there is nothing in the line of compulsory state directed policy of this nature.

      Our Government set up a programme for voluntary sterlisation for benficaries however the take up rate has been very, very low. 10's of people over a number of years in a country with a pop of 5M+.

      You really need to get out more.

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    5. Re:And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by tobiah · · Score: 2

      Setting: Dystopia with eugenics gone wrong:

      Still waiting for a "eugenics gone right" story..

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    6. Re:And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by iserlohn · · Score: 1

      Why deal with hypotheticals and FUD. Move to one of the many developed countries that has universal healthcare and experience it yourself. Heathcare actually works in a lot of places once freed from the shackles of the market.

    7. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by netizen_james · · Score: 3, Informative

      Someone isn't being above board here see http://www.snopes.com/politics... There is no such requirement, for 'public health reporting' or otherwise.

    8. Re:And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      Still waiting for a "eugenics gone right" story..

      Aren't we all? B-b

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    9. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by ScentCone · · Score: 1, Informative

      Regardless of whether or not there was pressure from the previous administration for health care providers to stick their noses into and make their patients feel uncomfortable about it, someone with the notion that asking a patient for the names and relationships of people who had access to guns in the house, and where and how they're kept instructed this nurse to go down that road. That pressure could have come from her own political agenda, that of her employer or nurses' association, or from insurers, or state licensing bodies, or from any of a number of federal agencies to which everyone downstream has to answer. The person delivering health services was reading from a clipboard and looking to gather that information. Her explanation as to why was suitably vague (having "to report it") as to sound meant to shut down whoever might ask about it. No doubt banking on seniors' general go-along-with-it disposition. No matter how you slice it, it doesn't pass the smell test.

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    10. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      whether they're above board or not, I've also been asked that. And felt that my refusal to reply was probably marked as a "yes".

    11. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the solution is to just say 'nope - never seen a gun in my life'.

    12. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by willy_me · · Score: 1

      If true, it will not be due to "government" requirements. If anything, the hospital would be acting privately, gathering information, and selling it privately. Capitalism run amok. If required by government regulations then those regulations would be public. Any attempt to hide this sort of thing is bound to fail if every person in the hospital is aware of it.

    13. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by reboot246 · · Score: 0

      It may not be "official" law, but they damned sure ask the questions. Not every doctor, but at least two I've seen in the past few years asked the questions. I simply refused to answer and quickly found other doctors. It's none of their business if it's not related to the reason for the office visit.

      And you really, seriously need to find another source for your "fact checking". Snopes is as biased as they come.

    14. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Xylantiel · · Score: 1

      Well if there are guns in the house and she doesn't know who has access to them, that's kind of a problem. I'm sure other questions included "are you eating your vegetables" and "how many times a day do you brush your teeth". These are usually questions for which the answer itself doesn't actually matter in some sense (people often lie), they're intended to make the patient think about what the answer SHOULD be and maybe give the doctor an idea of how attentive the person is to basic health and safety practices. I would argue that this specific question represents one of the problems with American gun culture in some circles, i.e. access to firearms is not handled appropriately. And don't give the song and dance about kitchen knives being dangerous, it's pretty tough to accidentally kill someone with a kitchen knife, not so hard with a gun. With all the hype around mass shootings, inappropriate access to guns and the resulting accidents or otherwise avoidable incidents kill a lot more people. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to set some basic regulations, like is done for, say, fire alarms, without people like you denouncing it as a conspiracy to take away your guns.

    15. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or it could be state, county, or city. There's several thousand governments in the US. Nobody has the ability to track what all of them are doing.

    16. Re:And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      - The green revolution
      - Modern agriculture and our food supply

    17. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure; when you have a big, broken, complicated, inefficient, expensive system like the US, that sill manages the majority of health care innovation, underwriting your system.

    18. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think that the government only asks for what they're "required by law to ask" and no more... I've got a nice bridge to sell you.

      Troll included.

    19. Re:And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      Still waiting for a "eugenics gone right" story..

      Aren't we all? B-b

      - The green revolution
      - Modern agriculture and our food supply

      You're confusing "genetics" (the overall science of genes and their manipulation) with "eugenics" (the attempt to "improve" human populations by such means as selective breeding and culling of "defectives".)

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    20. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by dmr001 · · Score: 2

      In my primary care practice in the US, we’ve been asking about firearms since I started (in the Clinton administration). Not by government mandate or guideline, but suggestions from specialty societies, like the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Academy of Family Physicians. We sit around in meetings and discuss this sort of stuff a couple of times a month and it gets added to the (ever lengthening) questionnaire.

      This, in turn, is based on . Here’s your top 10 for 2014:

      • 1. Diseases of heart (heart disease)
      • 2. Malignant neoplasms (cancer)
      • 3. Chronic lower respiratory diseases
      • 4. Accidents (unintentional injuries)
      • 5. Cerebrovascular diseases (stroke)
      • 6. Alzheimer’s disease
      • 7. Diabetes mellitus (diabetes)
      • 8. Influenza and pneumonia
      • 9. Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis (kidney disease)
      • 10. Intentional self-harm (suicide)

      Out of 199,972 injury deaths during the last reporting year (62.6 per 100k population), 51,966 went by poisoning, 33,736 by motor vehicle accident, and 33,594 by firearms, most of that accidental. (Out of 15.872 homicides, 11,008 were by firearms, so two thirds of firearms deaths are accidents.)

      So, we ask if you have a gun, and if you do, we ask if you have it properly locked up so no one accidentally shoots themselves (like your kids), just like we ask about seatbelt and carseats and smoke detectors. If it’s toward the top of the list of preventable deaths, we try to ask you about it to see if we have an opportunity to prevent you from dying—simple as that.

    21. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      Funny how Snopes has been investigating myths, including the political, for something like 20 years, but you never heard a whisper about this supposed bias until the Trumpkins got some skin in the game. The mountain of bullshit surrounding Trump is so high that any organization doing reporting or fact-checking will have to tackle it sooner or later. That's going to be a problem for Dear Leader, so trust in these organizations needs to be eroded. Stay tuned instead to your 4chan, Twitter, and YouTube filter bubbles for reliable, alternative facts.

    22. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

      [2014 numbers]... 33,594 [deaths] by firearms, most of that accidental. (Out of 15.872 homicides, 11,008 were by firearms, so two thirds of firearms deaths are accidents.)

      the 2013 numbers on wikipedia have almost ALL the non-homicide deaths due to suicide, a small fraction due to accident:

      These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides, 21,175 suicides, 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent". Of the 2,596,993 total deaths in the US in 2013, 1.3% were related to firearms.

      Little secret about "deaths by gun accidents": MOST of them are suicides.

      Police usually report a suicide as an accident, both to save the feelings of the family members and to help them avoid difficulty collecting on any life insurance. (Suicide voids a life insurance policy, so the family may both lose a loved one and be impoverished if the police or coroner's report mentions the "s" word in the cause-of-death slot.)

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    23. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by ddyer-bennet · · Score: 1

      The whole eugenics movement in the 50s

    24. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where "biased" means: Does tell me things I don't want to hear.

    25. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want another source? Why not check the sources helpfully linked directly from the Snopes article?

      That's a big part of what separates a genuine fact-checking site like Snopes from the run-of-the-mill bullshit posts - they *always* link to their sources, and are thus entirely verifiable (unlike your own unsourced accusations).

    26. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ignoring the suicide=accident angle, why would you want names?

    27. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by rhazz · · Score: 1

      Police usually report a suicide as an accident, both to save the feelings of the family members and to help them avoid difficulty collecting on any life insurance. (Suicide voids a life insurance policy, so the family may both lose a loved one and be impoverished if the police or coroner's report mentions the "s" word in the cause-of-death slot.)

      You should stop pretending like you know what you're talking about.

      The federal 1996 Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) prohibits discrimination against a person covered by a group health insurance policy based on health factors (29 USC 1182). Interim final regulations interpreting the law specifies that a health insurance plan cannot exclude coverage for an injury resulting from a medical condition, whether physical or mental, if it is an injury the policy would otherwise cover (26 C.F.R. 54.9802-1T(b)(2)(iii)).

      Self-inflicted injuries, such as injuries resulting from attempted suicide, are presumed to be the result of a mental illness, such as depression, and therefore coverage for treatment of self-inflicted injuries cannot be excluded, according to Insurance Department staff. The only exception is if the person is covered by an individual policy that excludes coverage for pre-existing conditions and the person had a prior history of mental illness. (For more information on HIPAA and prior medical conditions, see the enclosed OLR report, 2003-R-0778.)

    28. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good boy !

      Now get back to work, slave.

      Make more healthcare !

      You go now....you hurry !
      Chop chop.

    29. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Immerman · · Score: 1

      What does health insurance have to do with anything? After a successful suicide your health insurance coverage isn't going to matter anymore.

      What will matter is the caveats in your *life insurance* policy. And I'm willing to bet there's no regulations preventing such limitations there - "buy expensive life insurance policy and off yourself" would otherwise be an *excellent* way for conscientious folks at the end of their rope to help their families immensely while relieving their own suffering. In fact, I'm quite certain a number of people I know have anti-suicide clauses in their life insurance policies.

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    30. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The whole eugenics movement in the 50s

      1920s and 30s, surely?

    31. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that might be because the half of the couple that ran Snopes and ensured things stayed unbiased has been pushed out, and the one remaining, who did the pushing, is not quite as unbiased as he would like people to believe.
      So comparing Snopes in 2002 or even 2014 is not the same as Snopes today.

    32. Re:And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have government run health care in the United States. Its called the VA and a review of the headlines of the operation of the VA over the last decade or so shows why Americans are suspicious about government run healthcare.
      You can also see how many Canadians seek treatment abroad. That bastion of the alt-right, the Huffington Post claims 50,000 Canadians crossed the border to seek treatment in the U.S. even though they had to pay for it themselves. They claim patients are waiting up to 20 weeks for medically necessary procedures.
      The article quotes a Canadian doctor who says, "Everyone has access to free medical care that is ‘good enough.’ If you want to pay for better health care, you can’t,” he said. “That’s why those who can afford to, tend to go down to the U.S. for care if they have anything serious happen to them. You can have the greatest doctors in the world, but if the bureaucrats that run the system are making them treat patients with one hand tied behind their back, are they going to be delivering the best possible care?”
      I don't call that working, especially when what's 'good enough' is a subjective term.
      Plus don't fool yourself. Politicians and insiders probably get better treatment by default, even if people with just more money don't. But of course they can find somewhere where the government doesn't hobble the system to get their health care. Only the middle class gets screwed.

    33. Re:And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by tbannist · · Score: 2

      We have government run health care in the United States. Its called the VA and a review of the headlines of the operation of the VA over the last decade or so shows why Americans are suspicious about government run healthcare.

      Reviewing headlines about anything is a terrible way to learn anything of substance.

      You can also see how many Canadians seek treatment abroad. That bastion of the alt-right, the Huffington Post claims 50,000 Canadians crossed the border to seek treatment in the U.S. even though they had to pay for it themselves. They claim patients are waiting up to 20 weeks for medically necessary procedures.

      Actually, that number comes from the Fraser institute, and I'm not sure if it's trustworthy because I've caught them telling lies to further their right-wing political goals before. The Chair of Canadian Doctors for Medicare has inidcated that she believes there are a lot of flaws in teh way the Fraser Institute reached it numbers. Additionally, the number may be misleading because it's measured from the time from when you see your regular doctor, so it includes the time between being sent for a referral, having the meeting with the specialist, and then the time to schedule the surgery afterwards. Many people would likely imagine that it means you're waiting 20 weeks from when you're told you need an operation to when it occurs. Also, medically necessary does not include emergency life-saving treatment where you need to have the operation now (or the wait time figure would be much, much lower). Medically necessary generally means lower priority treatment that has been prescribed by a doctor. It tends to be things like knee surgery.

      The article quotes a Canadian doctor who says, "Everyone has access to free medical care that is ‘good enough.’ If you want to pay for better health care, you can’t,” he said. “That’s why those who can afford to, tend to go down to the U.S. for care if they have anything serious happen to them. You can have the greatest doctors in the world, but if the bureaucrats that run the system are making them treat patients with one hand tied behind their back, are they going to be delivering the best possible care?”
      I don't call that working, especially when what's 'good enough' is a subjective term.

      And yet it delivers better results than the American system and is less expensive. The Canadians who travel to the U.S. for treatment are people who don't want to wait a few weeks and can afford to pay so they don't have to wait. If you've got the money, that's an option.

      Plus don't fool yourself. Politicians and insiders probably get better treatment by default, even if people with just more money don't. But of course they can find somewhere where the government doesn't hobble the system to get their health care. Only the middle class gets screwed.

      That has happened, of course, and it helped bring down the longest running conservative government in Canada (in Alberta). It's illegal and when it's revealed heads roll. Even with insiders occasionally getting better treatment, the middle class doesn't get screwed nearly as badly as it does in the U.S. Medical bankruptcies are unheard of in Canada. There are very few cases where lifesaving medical treatment is not available in Canada, and usually if it's not available the provincial health care system will send the patient to where it is available at no additional cost to the patient.

      On the other hand, the American system is objectively terrible, it rations health care based on who can afford to pay the most, and who can prevent their health insurance company from denying them coverage. The Canadian system may not be the best in the world, but it does better than the American system on every measure except one: the American system does a better job of caring for multi-millionaire patients who don't need health insurance.

      Y

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    34. Re:And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      Bujold's Vorkosigan Saga is arguably that. Not to the extent of breeding supermen, but her showcase liberal utopia (Beta Colony) does prescreen for and fix genetic defects, and people can get a "certified clean genes" certificate if they want to. It's implied that the same technology is broadly used on other developed worlds in the universe.

      Furthermore, there's a case of an "eugenics done wrong" transitioning to "eugenics done right" in the books, as well. The primary setting - a backwards planet of Barrayar recently reintegrated into the broader galactic economy - has a spartan-like cultural attitudes towards mutations (and any physical defects they suspect of being such, even when they really aren't), where mothers are expected to kill such children at birth. By the beginning of the series, it's already officially outlawed, and not widely practiced in the cities, but prevalent in rural areas. By the end of the series, some 40 years later, it's mostly stamped out in rural areas, and galactic genetic screening and treatment technologies are broadly used by the urban middle class.

    35. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by dgallard · · Score: 1

      > asked her [my mom] if there were guns in the house, how they were stored, and who (including names and relationships) had access to them

      And the appropriate answer to that would be: "None of your business".

    36. Re:And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by MercTech · · Score: 1

      Since the script is based on Philip K Dick's "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" and not the Nourse tale of "Bladrunner" nothing has been said of how "Bladerunner" came to be associated with the movie.

      Did someone have two scripts and was so clueless about scifi they couldn't tell the two stories apart?

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    37. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should stop pretending like you know what you're talking about--life insurance is not health insurance. Life insurance is not covered by HIPAA--note that it is named the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.

      There's also some pretty...disturbing stats on how accurate a suicide ruling may actually be, which has resulted in some places flat out requiring that you rule homicide out in order to rule it a suicide. This makes it harder to pass a homicide off as a suicide, because typically if the police think it's a suicide they don't even pause to think about such things as "The deceased managed to shot themselves in the head from 3 feet away, doing sufficient damage to their brain as to result in immediate paralysis, meaning that the only way they would have gotten the gun into their hand is telekinesis." (This is actually less absurd than what would be required for some known cases of 'suicides' later realized to be murders to have actually been a suicide.)

      That said: Some life insurance policies will still pay off in case of suicide as long as it happens sufficiently after the policy is bought, and it's going to generally be easier to get an accident ruling...corrected, later, especially if it turns out to be less "Bob shot himself" and more something along the lines of "Bob's spouse feels that murder was just so much better a solution than divorcing him."

    38. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 1

      That's actually exactly why the standard boilerplate on life insurance policies is that at least a minimum amount of time--usually in the years range--has to have passed after you got it, if it's not a "does not pay off after suicide ever" type of policy. It's pretty effective against the 'buy large policy, off self' plan and I suspect that the insurance companies figure that the rare person who manages to follow all the steps including the required delay deserves the payoff.

    39. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by darth.hunterix · · Score: 1

      Unless you keep the gun loaded (some people do, some people don't) it's much easier to accidentally kill someone with a knife than with a gun.

      While I don't own a gun myself I am no stranger to them and I know plenty of gun owners or people who live with gun owners. Most of them had more or less serious accident with a knife, none of them had any accident with a gun. Partly due to the fact that guns get more respectful treatment, partly because there is no way to "unload" a knife. Hell, it doesn't event have a safety!

      And as to knowledge who has access to guns you missed two important factors:

      1. When I lived with a gun owner I also wasn't sure who has access, because they weren't mine and I didn't have an access myself. I trusted the owner to take care of them and apparently he did, since we never had any accident.
      2. When you go to hospital you probably have something else on mind than a guns, like an injury or an illness. Imagine if they asked her about the colour of her underwear. While she probably knows it, she wouldn't be able to answer the question because of hospital-related stress.

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    40. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Interesting, I hadn't heard that, but I'm fairly certain many of them are indefinitely void on suicide...

      Yeah, from what I can find on Google, it's very policy-specific, some have an initial no-suicide "probation" period, and others don't cover suicide at all.

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    41. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by rhazz · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes I did mistake the health insurance regulations and life insurance, my bad. However it is still bollocks about most police reporting suicides as accidents for claim purposes. Yes there is a 2 to 3 year contestability period on most policies where they would deny the claim due to suicide. However insurance companies don't need the police to identify a death as suicide to deny the claim, they can have their own finding of suicide (e.g. Heath Ledger).

    42. Re: And Nourse's _Blade Runer_ was excellent. by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 1

      Yep. I can believe it happens, but for entirely different reasons--the logistics of arranging the funeral and corpse-disposal of somebody who committed suicide can be decidedly complex, especially if cremation is not an option. However, if the death certificate doesn't say suicide, most of those problems won't exist.

      Really, if you want to be somewhat polite about your suicide, pick something nicely heroic to die in the process of doing. There will be very few fucks given that you had no expectation of surviving it--and the insurance company may even still pay out, even if for no other reason than avoiding bad PR.

  24. Interesting sidebar by rpresser · · Score: 1

    The concept of a "bladerunner", bootlegging vital medical supplies to those who can't afford them, showed up in another movie based on a different Philip K. Dick story: "Impostor". While it occupies a few characters and a fair amount of screen time in that movie, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the print story.

  25. Junky on hard times and DMT by NewAccount · · Score: 0

    My understanding was always that this was a way for Scott to throw some money at W.S.Burroughs, who was in debt, and maintaining his heroin addiction. That is why the background story about Nourse and the relevance of the name in the film hasn't often been explored. Hollywood definitely wasn't going to finance a film titled "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" so just about anything would do and Burroughs was known for crazy-off-the-wall writing- that usually ends the exploration. This is a little off-topic, but the bizarre, darkly creative nature of Burrough's writing is usually credited to hallucinations from withdrawals, or heroin itself. But not only did Burroughs did DMT-containing Yagé (better known now as ayahuasca) in the Amazon, but he continued to occasionally use the synthetic version cooked up back in the states, including some reportedly heroic doses (injecting hundreds of doses at once) To anyone familiar with this hallucinogen, it clearly inspires his nightmare visions. Heroin does nothing of the sort, and could even be described as anti-hallucinogenic. I haven't read this anywhere and it surprises me.

    1. Re:Junky on hard times and DMT by NewAccount · · Score: 0

      Ooops, I just read the "Vulture" article and apparently Burroughs was sober, "in Recovery," at the time. Everything else I said stands, however

    2. Re:Junky on hard times and DMT by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      with only a couple exceptions, damn near _every_ Philip K Dick story has been renamed and often changed to only be loosely based in the real story.

      Some exceptions:
      A scanner darkly - damn near the exact same story. Also a really fucked up thing to do to a cop just to figure out where the drug was being grown.

      Imposter - very close to the same, then again it was a pretty short story

      Radio Free Albemuth - I didnt get to see this one but the summary sounds nearly the same as my memory of the book

      Im still waiting for The Man in High Castle to eventually getting around to its conclusion. Theyved added a ton of other shit to fill up a tv series. The trade minister medatating his way into our version of the 1960s SF was a good indication that they may, eventually, delve more deeply into the parallel universes.

  26. Genius was Crazy by gurps_npc · · Score: 1

    Philip K Dick was a certifiable genius, but he was also certifiably insane.

    Trying to comprehend his world is a lot of fun, but trying to understand his naming convention is to a certain extent an exercise in futility.

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    1. Re:Genius was Crazy by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Can you certify someone as insane when they're tripping balls? If not, he wasn't certifiable :-P

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    2. Re:Genius was Crazy by gurps_npc · · Score: 1

      Many people with mental issues self-medicate to varying degrees of success.

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    3. Re:Genius was Crazy by Megol · · Score: 1

      Substance induced psychosis is a thing, so yes.

  27. Duh. Because it sounds cool. by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    This question is straight from the Captain Obvious department IMHO.

    Besides, the "Blade Runners" are mentioned in a dialog in the opening scene.

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  28. And yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... doesn't do a single f*** to explain why Blade Runner ended up as the title of a script based of "Do Androids Dream of Electronic Sheep". Don't get me wrong, nice backstory (although whoever wrote the article is an absolute idiot... Alan Nourse "mysterious" and "unknown"? Are you on drugs?!) but doesn't answer the question "why is blade runner the title of blade runner" as it set out it the title of this dumb article...

  29. Sand Spider... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    The short version of the explanation:

    From the movie "True Lies"

    Faisil: [in a conference room in their counter terrorism sector] They call him the Sand Spider.
    Spencer Trilby: Why?
    Faisil: Probably because it sounds scary.

    i.e. because it sounds cool.

  30. Marketing gone wrong by Tablizer · · Score: 0

    Marketer(s) probably made or influenced the ultimate decision. "Blade Runner" sounds "actiony", and young restless males purchase most movie tickets. However, one of the reasons the first film had relatively poor revenues is that ticket buyers expected more action because both the title and the way it was marketed in pre-release materials. But it wasn't really an action flick, more of a drama. Therefore, the marketing gimmicks backfired because the audience was mismatched with the picture type, and thus gave it bad reviews.

  31. Because it sounds cool. by Yunzil · · Score: 1

    Seriously, not everything has to have a detailed backstory.

    1. Re:Because it sounds cool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Why is it called 'TAKING a dump' and not 'LEAVING a dump'?"

  32. Eugenics by fish_in_the_c · · Score: 0

    The founders of NARAL and Planned Parenthood were big supports of Eugenics. They wanted to ensure that there were fewer 'minority babies' and didn't think you could expect minorities to use proper birth control. Of coarse population control is Eugenics more pleasant younger brother, but if you are going to reduce the population, you have to ask ( of what group? and who gets to pick?) because unless you can somehow enforce unilateral fertility drops across all demographic groups you natural create 'selection pressure' that favors specific characteristics.

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    1. Re:Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The founders of NARAL and Planned Parenthood were big supports of Eugenics. They wanted to ensure that there were fewer 'minority babies' and didn't think you could expect minorities to use proper birth control. Of coarse population control is Eugenics more pleasant younger brother, but if you are going to reduce the population, you have to ask ( of what group? and who gets to pick?) because unless you can somehow enforce unilateral fertility drops across all demographic groups you natural create 'selection pressure' that favors specific characteristics.

      The founders of NARAL and Planned Parenthood were big supports of Eugenics. They wanted to ensure that there were fewer 'minority babies' and didn't think you could expect minorities to use proper birth control. Of coarse population control is Eugenics more pleasant younger brother, but if you are going to reduce the population, you have to ask ( of what group? and who gets to pick?) because unless you can somehow enforce unilateral fertility drops across all demographic groups you natural create 'selection pressure' that favors specific characteristics.

      You don't really have to - the best way to reduce population is make sure people are educated and relatively well off. Population growth drops off rapidly once people don't need large families to look after them in their old age, or run the farm, and once they have access to reliable contraceptives.

    2. Re:Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with that theory is that what results is a situation where the people you most want to reproduce, the well educated and high IQ folks are the ones who reproduce least. While those with lower IQs reproduce the most.
      That doesn't even address the problems which result from collapsing populations. People are social wealth. Places like Japan with their collapsing population and China with their large gender imbalance are in for a rough ride.

  33. Definition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A person who runs BladeOS to capture replicas.

  34. Why is a Janitor called a Janitor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is a Janitor called a Janitor? Why is Police called Police? Yes, there must be a reason for these words, there must be an origin for everything but as time passes, the origins are often forgotten. A good story does not have to explain everything, as even in reality, not everything can be explained.

  35. Hollywood titles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The work that goes into a title is huge. They engineer it like an OCD tweeker re-arranges toothpicks, or a rocket scientist tests his system for failure.

    They have to be poetic. They have to have no less than 3 meanings relevant to different takes on the plot. It has to work in with key-phrases in the dialog, and imaging. They have to sell, and appeal to the right demographic. There are copyright and marketing issues.

    A blade runner runs on the edge of a blade. Madness and genius. The razors edge. What is that blade? Life and death? Madness and genius? Love and hate?
    The blade cuts. Who is cut? The victim. The runner. Who is the real runner?
    Is the runner running along as in to run a race, or as in to carry something? In this case both. What are the running after? What are they bringing as they run?

    There is probably more legal wrangling over the title of a movie, than the legal wrangling it takes to get congress to pass a new law. Seriously, and in terms of person hours.

    -EngrStudent

  36. Wait, this is a question? by Derec01 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had always assumed (I suppose without justification) that this was a direct reference to all of the sci-fi/horror (e.g. the Thing) in which the humans run a blade across their hand or body to show that they have flesh and bleed, and are thus truly human and not a robot.

    This was probably a reasonable tactic for early replicants that may have used more artificial components or a blood-like substance that was less like blood. Later replicants were "more human than human", but the name would stick for the group that was meant to ferret out replicants amongst the human population.

    I always liked that origin as it implied some very interesting, untold replicant horror stories.

  37. Its all just a bunch of kipple. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Noise on the channel, put there just to make it harder to hear what is important.

  38. Replecants are trying to "Avoid the Blade" by bitbrain · · Score: 1

    Seems pretty obvious to me. Replecants are "slaves" and try running to avoid the blade or oppression.
    Also, and likely more importantly: "Blade Runner" sounds cool

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  40. the one who makes the blade to run (on the skin) by LavouraArcaica · · Score: 1

    I always assumed that name as a synonym of 'assassin'. (blade runner = making the blade to run on someone's skin)

  41. Ockham's Razor or Gardening? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've generally interpreted it in two different ways, neither of which is this accepted version (though I would not contest that the title must've originated as described in this article).

    First, as in reference to gardening, where a blade may be run along a stem to remove undesired branches or buds. This especially fits with the "tree" motif that features through the second film.

    Secondly, as a roundabout reference to Ockham's Razor, in that Blade Runners have a responsibility to make sure that the "official explanation" (most likely to be believed) for something is the "simplest possible" explanation for something - i.e., they cover up what is a complex situation for the public by eliminating the source of moral or ethical complexity (specifically, by "retiring" replicants).

  42. DERP! by DaMattster · · Score: 1

    Newsflash: It's a remake!

  43. Gattaca once the patent expires by tepples · · Score: 1

    Still waiting for a "eugenics gone right" story..

    It'd probably take place 20 years after a Gattaca-like scenario, once the patent on editing deleterious alleles out of germline chromosomes has expired, and the procedure becomes affordable to the working class.

    1. Re:Gattaca once the patent expires by reve_etrange · · Score: 1

      editing deleterious alleles out of germline chromosomes

      I don't think that will be that popular (on humans). Embyro selection - which is what they actually appear to use in Gattaca - on the other hand will probably be common place.

      I do think gene editing in agricultural plants and animals will be common, but it's pretty risky and expensive compared to just sequencing a bunch of embryos and picking the good ones (in most cases).

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    2. Re:Gattaca once the patent expires by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

      In my Head Canon I've always assumed he had a heart attack from the rocket launch.

    3. Re:Gattaca once the patent expires by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Embryo selection though runs afoul of all the same objections as early-term abortion - a choice that's usually emotionally fraught even for most of those who completely support it's legality. Basically it's parallel abortion on a massive scale. From the movie "you could conceive naturally a thousand times, and never get such a result", which of course implies that more than a thousand fertilizations occurred, and all but the chosen one were terminated.

      An alternative hypothetical option is gamete selection before fertilization. But that would require a non-destructive method of DNA analysis, since unlike in an embryo or blastocyst you're dealing with single cells carrying unique DNA rather than a mass of copies. If you could pull it off though, it would be much more effective since you could analyze all the possible ways those thousands of gametes could combine, and find the most appealing combination.

      Alternatively, and even more powerfully (and almost within range of modern technology), you could simply do a complete DNA sequence of both parents, analyze that to find the best gamete combination theoretically possible, and then synthesize the associated DNA and implant it within a donor egg. I don't think we know how to replace DNA within a nucleus yet, but am fairly certain we've successfully replaced bacterial DNA that way.

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    4. Re:Gattaca once the patent expires by reve_etrange · · Score: 1

      Embryo selection though runs afoul of all the same objections as early-term abortion

      True, but in practice editing will also require multiple tries, at least for a very long time. There will always be some risk of off-target effects, and it can't be perfectly efficient. People will want to give a few tries and use a validated result.

      synthesize the associated DNA and implant it within a donor egg

      Whole chromosomes are way, way bigger than any DNA molecules we know how to synthesize right now (by around 5 orders of magnitude). The second step is possible though, we do it with current editing technologies. One of my friends/colleagues even does it to zebra fish zygotes. We've already made it into vertebrates.

      Incidentally, zebra fish will also express plasmids, which I thought was completely insane until I learned the injection volume is more than 50% that of the cell. The trick is not to bust 'em open when you do it.

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    5. Re:Gattaca once the patent expires by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Really?!? We've actually managed nucleus modification? That *is* impressive. Are you certain it's not just nucleus transfer? That's comparatively simple and old news.

      I believe I heard just a few weeks ago of the first use of CRISPR (I think) to repair embryonic genetic defects. I suppose if you're committed to having a child that's otherwise destined for serious problems it's maybe worth the risk. Certainly off-target effects are a valid concern, especially given the fact that (last I heard) there's only been one study to even *look* for such a thing with full-genome sequencing of the modified organism, and they found considerable evidence for it (as I recall their results were rapidly called into question, but they're still the only study to even address the issue)

      As for DNA synthesis limits, you're a few orders of magnitude off - "The 582,970 base pair M. genitalium bacterial genome is the largest chemically defined structure synthesized in the lab," - Scientific American circa 2008 (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/longest-piece-of-dna-yet/). I'm sure that number has gone up considerably since then, but that was the most recent claim I turned up in Google. Meanwhile, the human genome is 3 billion base pairs divided into 46 chromosomes, or ~65 million base pairs on average That's only 2 orders of magnitude larger. Still won't be doing it tomorrow, but it's right around the corner.

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    6. Re:Gattaca once the patent expires by reve_etrange · · Score: 1

      The 582,970 base pair M. genitalium bacterial genome

      That's a huge synthesis, we routinely synthesize much smaller pieces. I think it's about a grand for a custom ~5 kbp construct. I guess it's just a matter of time until such large sequences can be synthesized with reasonable time/money investments though.

      nucleus modification

      The zebra fish labs are definitely injecting CRISPR into zygotes to try and create stable edited lines. It doesn't work very well, but it's because zebra fish don't do homology directed repair, and non-homologous end joining is much less efficient. I think the microinjection isn't that bad since the eggs aren't that small. I also know someone who uses a micro needle to poke mammalian cells and - without lysing them - pluck their microtubules in order to measure their viscoelastic properties as they bounce back. I think that's much more difficult.

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    7. Re:Gattaca once the patent expires by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Ah, okay. CRISPR is a much different thing than chromosome replacement. (I was picturing the next step beyond relatively crude whole-nucleus replacement) It's also not nearly as impressive when you're using technology stolen from a much more advanced species (bacteria have us totally outclassed on the gene-editing scene. Amazing what a few thousand/million times more generations of evolution can do for a species).

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    8. Re:Gattaca once the patent expires by reve_etrange · · Score: 1

      They arguably don't use it for editing, just for cutting and degradation to protect against phage. There was recently even published a viral CRISPR-like system, which functions in immunity against viruses that infect other viruses. See "MIMIVIRE is a defence system in mimivirus that confers resistance to virophage."

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  44. My assumption by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    I'd assumed "blade runner" was a reference to that act, trying to run along a sharp edge, being extremely difficult and dangerous, as was identifying and terminating replications.

  45. Global Warming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The answer is simple - global warming. In the future we are in an ice age thanks to global warming and everyone gets around on ice skates. Calling them ice skates just sounded "lame" so that's where the term "blade runner" came in. Unfortunately this gets little attention in the movie. In fact, during shooting, it was the actors' lack of skating skills that led to the decision to film everyone from the knees up as the constant slipping around and falling was a little too slapstick for what the director wanted.

  46. Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because in the future, razor blades are rationed, and so any self respecting police detective has a sideline selling black market razor blades.

  47. Does fear matter more than human life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Alcohol in the US kills 88,000 people a year. Guns kill 30,000 and half of those are suicides. The FBI has reported that about 40% of violent crime includes alcohol in some way. The problem is far worse in Europe where around 290,000 people per year die due to alcohol. And that doesn't even begin to see the true cost in human suffering due to miscarriages, fetal alcohol syndrome, and the people that die earlier through indirect health problems.

    If you really care about human life, push for at-the-register background checks, ability-to-purchase licenses, waiting periods, greatly heightened taxes, and volume restrictions on the purchase or ownership of alcohol. Far more lives will be saved.

    1. Re: Does fear matter more than human life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tried.
      Made criminals extremely rich and powerful.

    2. Re: Does fear matter more than human life? by oobayly · · Score: 2

      And guess what, your doctor is very likely to ask you about your alcohol intake too. According to a medical friend of mine they also tend to double what the patient says

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  49. Replicants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And replicants were called andys in the book.

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  51. Alan E. Nourse by thomst · · Score: 1

    I remember Alan E. Nourse's medicine-centric science fiction as uniformly excellent. The man could write, and, being an M.D., he knew medicine, too. His novel The Bladefunner was first published as a series of short stories and novelettes in Analog that were later reworked into a novel.

    I also read his non-fiction book The Intern (although, because it was published under a pseudonym, I had no idea it was by Alan Nourse). As I recall it was something of a bestseller. I found it engrossing. It was really the first work to expose the reading public to the brutal working conditions that medical interns (and, to an only slightly lesser extent, residents) must endure - in particular, the 48-hour shifts that somehow have become a sacrosanct centerpiece of the interning experience.

    That practice - of forcing interns to work 48 consecutive hours at a time - has always seemed to me to be directly contrary to the best interests of both the interns themselves and the patients for whom they care. YMMV, of course, but even as a 20-something, being awake for two full days just burned me to the ground, physically and mentally. It's terrible for a young doctor's health and much, much worse for the standard of care he or she is physically capable of providing to patients. My judgement, memory, and attention all suffer markedly after just 24 hours without sleep. After 48, I wouldn't trust myself with a butter knife, much less a scalpel ...

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  52. Is that where your mailorder bride is from? LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hahahahaha you fucking grimy lil' pimp loser behind a fake name for your fake life https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11212619&cid=55346093/ seeing your post history showed me it.

  53. SKIN JOBS by Mike+Greaves · · Score: 1

    I've never read the book. From the book title I assumed the androids were mechanical robots with rubbery skins. In the film, Deckard refers to them as "skin jobs", and this reinforced my original assumption.

    Hence, running a blade meaning to (obviously metaphorically) slice off their skins, and thus reveal their true nature.

    Interestingly, in "The Terminator II", Arnold slices open his organic skin with a large knife, to prove that he's a robot underneath.

    I figure that the idea was so compelling that Scott kept the jargon, even though the replicants in the film were genetically-engineered organisms, and not robots.

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    1. Re:SKIN JOBS by Mike+Greaves · · Score: 1

      Actually, I stand corrected, it was Deckard's *commander* that used the term "skin jobs", and Deckard was clearly disgusted by the term. That's an important distinction, since Deckard may have been a replicant himself, among many other reasons.

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  54. It's because of the ice skating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Originally, the plot involved Harrison ford going undercover at an ice rink. The replicants were hiding out as a troupe of itinerant Ice skates. The voight-kamph test was the ebility to do a triple axle.

  55. Marvel solved this years ago... by valley · · Score: 1

    Marvel Comics solved this question in their adaptation: http://www.cbr.com/marvel-solv...

  56. Alan E. Nourse also wrote Star Surgeon by Babel-17 · · Score: 1

    It has a very nice forerunner to Star Trek vibe to it. The symbiote to the protagonist was like an intelligent Tribble that nestled on his arm, and the starship he served on could have been a medical relief oriented one in Star Fleet. Oh sure, it had its cheesy elements, but the story holds up. It reminds me that Star Trek also flat out adapted an older SF story for use with Kirk and the Enterprise. The one where Kirk has to battle the lizard like captain (a Gorn?) of another ship on the surface of a planet is immediately recognizable if you read the short story it credits. Boy I enjoyed reading SF during the golden age! :) lol P.S. The sex scene in Do Androids ... is painfully, realistically, awkward. These weren't "humlons", these were robots with human skin, and not really made to have sex, with all its inherent fluids. PKD compares the androids to those suffering from a mental illness that diminishes empathy. They were literally cutting the legs off a spider because, wtf, let's see what happens. But they aspired to more, which made them sometimes better than the humans who willingly closed themselves off. Pris (in all three iterations) is an interesting case. In We Can Build You PKD names a major character Pris, and she's very bright, manipulative, and damaged. She's representative for some of the women he knew. https://www.shmoop.com/do-andr... http://www.warpcoresf.co.uk/we... "Federal Mental Health Clinics are busy, with screening for mental health disorders for everyone, and compulsory attendance for anyone found to be mentally ill. One in four people spend some time in one of these institutions. Pris Frauenzimmer is one such person. Diagnosed with schizophrenia, she is on release and in remission when she helps to build one of the first simulacra, based on a historical person. The simulacra has all of the personality, appearance and memories of Edwin Stanton, a civil war era politician. Lifelike and able to hold a conversation, the artificial humans open up a lot of possibilities for the ailing company. One of these possibilities is the opportunity to work with the millionaire Sam Barrows. But Barrows' plans for the simulacra are altogether less straightforward, and less ethical, than those of MASA Associates. Louis and his partner, Maury Rock, are thrown into disarray over which course they should take in order to stay in business. Barrows is a risk-taker, and in spite of his wealth he isn't the kind of man Louis or Maury had expected him to be. To complicate matters further Louis develops a strange relationship with Pris, who also happens to be Maury's daughter. Pris is barely grown up, and she is an acid-tongued beauty with a complete disregard for anyone else's feelings. She is creative but detached from other people, and possibly as crazy as an ice fireplace." It has a clear connection to Do Androids, though it has a different feel, and dissimilar plot. Being damaged, but not giving up, is a hallmark of PKD, imo. Whether machine or human PKD sees within the connection to a higher power, and he was a very spiritual man. Sorry for rambling in a disconnected fashion, but hey, we're all nerds, right? :) Just making with the SF chatter.

  57. Thus the Seattle-Vancouver study was repudiated by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    the solution is to just say 'nope - never seen a gun in my life'.

    And in the gun culture it's considered moral to lie in that way to such an improper question, even by people who consider lying to be improper in essentially every other context. (If somebody is asking that, the assumption is the information may be used for is to enable confiscating the gun(s), leaving the family defenceless. So telling the truth is enabling crime and/or tyranny.)

    This, by the way, is why Kellerman's Seattle-Vancouver study was so thoroughly debunked that even Kellerman retracted it. (That's the source of many of the pithy, but utterly bogus, statistical soundbites, such as "A gun kept in the house is 21 times more likely to kill a family member ...")

    Guess what: If you ask people in the emergency room whether there's a gun in the house, you're only likely to get a "yes" when they're in the E-room because somebody was shot by it, so "no" is obviously false. That's the most extreme case of "selection bias" you're ever likely to see.

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    1. Re:Thus the Seattle-Vancouver study was repudiated by skids · · Score: 1

      even by people who consider lying to be improper in essentially every other context.

      I'm sorry, I am having a really hard time.. having observed this country first-hand for all of my adult life... believing there is any significant number of Americans who value honesty so highly. Plenty who give it lip service, plenty who scream invectives about something that was dishonest only when it suits them, but I've found even the more "law-abiding and decent" people have no qualms, for example, about returning the latest gadget which they dropped on the floor days after purchasing it as a DOA. Most people would think you stupid for not doing so. I'm sure we are not the only country with this level of culturally ingrained mendacity... I'm sure a lot of other cultures have their own P.T. Barnum ethos... but we should own up to being a nation of con-artists because we pretty much are.

      So it's not just a "gun culture" thing... Americans just lie... all the time.

    2. Re:Thus the Seattle-Vancouver study was repudiated by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's more a cultural bias against telling the truth when asked an improper question, and an awareness that you can typically expect the person to (incorrectly) assume anything other than a 'no' is a 'yes.' Incidentally, it's...not wise for them to push it, especially if somebody flat-out tells them that it's an improper question. (If you want lots of fun? Repeat that, unless they're cops in which case you end it the first time with "If I am not under arrest, I'm leaving" and if they say you're under arrest or refuse to let you leave? The answer to everything afterwards is "I want a lawyer" unless the question is directly related to getting you said lawyer.)

    3. Re:Thus the Seattle-Vancouver study was repudiated by darth.hunterix · · Score: 1

      When people flat out state that they are honest, they usually lie. Only self-admitted liars can be trusted.

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  58. Simple explanation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All of this is explained in the excellent 'Future noir' book by Paul M. Sammon, and it's been replicated in countless websites. So not much of a mystery, only a google search away.

    Ridley Scott neither wanted to use 'android' or 'detective' on his movie (which was called Dangerous Days in an early draft). Then someone found a book by William S. Burroughs called 'Blade runner: a movie', which sounded ok, and they bought the rights to it for using in the movie.

    The term 'replicant' was invented by David Peoples while having a phone call with his daughter, a biologist, about cellular replication.

  59. Am I the only one who read Jeter's sequel? by sabbede · · Score: 1
    Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human, by KW Jeter, has it as distorted German (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_2:_The_Edge_of_Human):

    The etymology of the term "blade runner" is revealed to come from the German phrase bleib ruhig, meaning "remain calm." It was supposedly developed by the Tyrell Corporation to prevent news about replicants malfunctioning

    1. Re:Am I the only one who read Jeter's sequel? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The etymology of the term "blade runner" is revealed to come from the German phrase bleib ruhig, meaning "remain calm."

      That seems like a stretch...

      Reminds me of the Rutles:

      "Nasty supposedly sings 'I buried Stig' on the song I Am The Waitress from the Tragical History Tour album. In fact he sings 'E burres stigano' which is very bad Spanish for 'Have you a water buffalo?'"

  60. Boring Robot 2049 - See It As Cheaply As Possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ridley Scott is following George Lucas in making films based on older franchises - and doing it badly.

    Boring Robot 2049 has visually interesting scenes, but the plodding and overdrawn pacing totally kills any sense of tension in the story. You could easily cut it in half, taking out any number of over-dwelling shots and actor "reactions" that go nowhere.

    But fanboys will no doubt freak out and insist its "just fine", because it has flying cars and some virtual boobies.

  61. Blade runner 2 Has the Answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the book, "Blade runner 2", which came out in the 1990s, they're called Blade runners because they act like very sharp precision instruments of death.