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Amazon Is Making a 'Lord of the Rings' Prequel Series (techcrunch.com)

Amazon is making a Lord of the Rings prequel TV series for its Amazon Instant streaming service. The show, which already carries a multi-season commitment, will "explore new storylines preceding J.R.R. Tolkien's The Fellowship of the Ring." TechCrunch reports: It's possible the new series will mine the ponderous but rich Silmarillion for material, as fan fiction writers and lore aficionados have done for decades. The exploits of the Elf-Lords of old would make for a stirring epic, while many would thrill at the possibility of seeing Moria at the height of its grandeur. So much depends on the quality of the adaptation, though. Amazon has been pretty good about its Originals, but this will be an undertaking far beyond the scope of anything its studios and partners have yet attempted. Amazon is partnering with New Line Cinema, which of course was the film company behind the much-loved trilogy that began in 2001, and the Tolkien Estate, as well as HarperCollins for some reason. The deal also "includes a potential additional spin-off series," presumably if it's popular enough.

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  1. Peter Jackson by neoRUR · · Score: 1, Insightful

    And I hope Peter will be involved somehow..

    1. Re: Peter Jackson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only respectful movie directed by Peter Jackson: http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0103873/

    2. Re:Peter Jackson by xevioso · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm sure Perter Jackson's ears perked up at this announcement. He loves to put a lot of bloat into his movies, which translates well to TV. A lot of the stuff in NZ is probably still intact and would make for great sets I'm sure. The problem is that if they were to work with him he would probably demand a lot of benefits for NZ; the Hobbit movies were *expensive* but they made a ton, so...

      Guilermo Del Toro was supposed to do the Hobbit before PJ took over, so they might be able to get him involved...

    3. Re:Peter Jackson by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1, Troll

      And I hope Peter will be involved somehow..

      Oh, I can think of another New Zealander who I would love to see in the film!

      Kim Dotcom!

      Yes, he is tanned and rested, and through and through ready for the job.

      Although, he is a bit creepy, but that what Tolkien was all about anyway.

      Just stuff his fat, hairy ass into a Elf costume, and he will be a hit.

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    4. Re: Peter Jackson by youngone · · Score: 1

      Actually, this is the best thing he ever did.
      In my opinion, of course.

    5. Re: Peter Jackson by meglon · · Score: 1

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00... I call yours and raise you... um.. one...

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    6. Re:Peter Jackson by Calydor · · Score: 1

      Bilbo was Sauron all along?

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    7. Re:Peter Jackson by nnet · · Score: 1

      I thought tobacco companies couldn't do that anymore.../s

    8. Re:Peter Jackson by wisnoskij · · Score: 4, Insightful

      After the travesty of the Hobbit. I would not wish for this.

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    9. Re:Peter Jackson by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      NZ wanted to maintain the beauty of the landscape, so a lot of the land the sets were made on had to be transformed back to their original state.

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    10. Re:Peter Jackson by Moheeheeko · · Score: 1

      WHAT A TWEEST

    11. Re:Peter Jackson by xevioso · · Score: 1

      I suspect that it wouldn't be hard for him to convince them to do it again on the same land.

      And it looks like the Shire is doing well for itself as a major tourist attraction...

      http://www.hobbitontours.com/e...

    12. Re: Peter Jackson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm rather fond of Forgotten Silver. Partially because I stumbled upon it on TV and didn't know anything about it.

    13. Re:Peter Jackson by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Yes and Orcs die if you splash them with water.

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    14. Re:Peter Jackson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. The LotR trilogy was good. I don't know why the Hobbit trilogy (I only saw 1.5 of them) was so poor.

    15. Re:Peter Jackson by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      I never understood the complaint about that weakness. It said the aliens where aware of there weakness and avoided water areas.

      When we look at planets to settle, they are all hostile to us. I imagine the aliens should have worn protective gear but as far as weaknesses goes, this was fairly reasonable.

    16. Re:Peter Jackson by MitchDev · · Score: 2

      Bloat... LotR turned three dense books into three movies.

      The Hobbit turned one smallish book into three over-drawn-out slogs....

    17. Re:Peter Jackson by MBGMorden · · Score: 2

      Stretching it too thin. The Hobbit would have been OK as two movies, and could probably have been done in one There wasn't enough source material for three.

      Also, for a lot of people whose primary exposure to LOTR was through the original movies, the Hobbit changed certain aesthetics. IE, the dwarves had a markedly different style in The Hobbit. The goblins also were very, very different, and they used a good deal more CGI in The Hobbit versus LOTR.

      Plus - and this is somewhat the "fault" of the source material - The Hobbit just came off as more childish. That makes sense - The Hobbit book came first and was intended for a younger audience. Tolkein wrote The LOTR afterwards and just decided to continue on with that story but with a more mature theme intended for a slightly older audience.

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    18. Re:Peter Jackson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Humidity = moisture in the air. So at minimum the aliens were suicidal for not wearing protective suits. It would be like if we sent off a bunch of people to Mars without suits and then wondered why they died.

    19. Re:Peter Jackson by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      I don't see it. The main problem areas of The Hobbit trilogy were not particularly long. And where it really shines in my opinion were some of the more fleshed out added content. The 5 second part where an Elf falls in love with a dwarf because he made a joke about his penis was not necessitated by the trilogy, Their is loads of ways they could of included those elves, if anything they needed to spend more time fleshing out whatever relationship their was instead of providing the entire motivation in that one 5 second joke. Furthermore, Legolas did not need to be 10 times the warrior he was in the LOTRs, making him a superhero did nothing for the story, he could of taken just as long to kill 5% of the number of orcs that he did and it would of made for a better movie.

      And we still missed out on many songs.

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  2. do not want! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    do not want!

    1. Re:do not want! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never fear. You will not be required to watch it.

  3. Just more Piling On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone even go see The Hobbit? After LotR I and many other people were pretty much burned out on the whole thing. Does anyone even actually GAF about this?

    1. Re:Just more Piling On by mfh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hobbit was a tale of small town heroes adventuring away, whereas LotR was an epic tale of the plight of humanity against malicious and demonic adversaries. Huge scale difference.

      With this prequel, they could potentially create something on par with LotR in terms of scale. However, few of the original LotR actors would be involved in the prequel... so the success or failure is going to depend upon the direction, the story and the casting. The LotR franchise (including The Hobbit) are on thin ice though. If there is a whiff of any garbage getting into this new series, it will lose its audience faster than Sauron losing everything with the loss of his ring finger.

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    2. Re:Just more Piling On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LoTR makes sense for a movie. Not so much for a TV series.

      Pick any episode of any shitty TV series, substitute LoTR characters, and that's what you're going to get.

    3. Re:Just more Piling On by vux984 · · Score: 1

      Did anyone even go see The Hobbit?

      They were a blockbuster success. $3 billion gross box office. A lot of people saw them.

      I personally enjoyed them, but didn't really like them. I liked parts of them, and even enjoyed some of the changes they made, and backstory bits they added in.

      But even with the additions it felt like butter scraped over too much bread. ;)

    4. Re:Just more Piling On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm imagining "Three's Company". Any episode would do. Lesseee, a dwarf, an elf, and a hobbit...

    5. Re:Just more Piling On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or a dwarf and two elf-lords

    6. Re:Just more Piling On by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If they're actually going to the Silmarillion, then that could be something. It would be quite something to see Tuor's journey to Nevrast and meeting with Ulmo, Lord of the Waters, or Ungoliant's poisoning of the Two Trees, and Nírnaeth Arnoediad, the Battle of Unnumbered Tears, would make any other filmed fantasy battle look like a game of Stratego in comparison. Go to the Second Age, a full recounting of the Fall of Numenor would make for an extraordinary sequence.

      But probably it will just be about young Thorin traipsing about Middle Earth, or Bullroarer's licentious joinings with busty Hobbit lasses.

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    7. Re:Just more Piling On by Gussington · · Score: 1

      LotR was an epic tale of the plight of humanity against malicious and demonic adversaries.

      What humans? LotR was just a never ending borefest of ghosts and goblins. I didn't get what anyone got excited about. The material while original in it's day (ie the book in the 50's), has been retold so many times in every fantasy/sci-fi genre ever since that it was all a bit predictable.
      I watched the trilogy but baulked at the thought of doing it all again for the Hobbit. Enough flogging, the horse is dead...

    8. Re: Just more Piling On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't actually go to see the Hobbit, but it was on TV here a couple of weeks ago.
      I still haven't seen it though.
      I tried, but it sent me to sleep in all three of the episodes.

    9. Re:Just more Piling On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A dwarf and two elf-lords walk into a bar. They order two beers and a whisky, but only the beers arrive. "You forgot something!", they say.

      The bartender replies "Sorry, we don't serve shorts".

    10. Re:Just more Piling On by MBGMorden · · Score: 2

      Depends. TV as a medium has shifted DRAMATICALLY in the last few decades.

      If it's 1980's style "self contained story every episode" type TV then yeah, it'll be stupid. If it's the more modern format of it essentially just being one huge story chopped into 1-hour long chunks then that will work fine.

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  4. um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you mean The Hobbit?

  5. Hobbit by taylorius · · Score: 1, Funny

    If I recall,they filmed the Hobbit at an unusually high framerate. At last, their genius becomes apparent. Simply play back the Hobbit films at a far lower framerate, and hey presto - a 250 hour Netflix series, ready for release!

    1. Re:Hobbit by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1, Informative

      > If I recall, they filmed the Hobbit at an unusually high framerate.

      Yes, they did at 48 FPS. They made two mistakes:

      * 48 fps STILL looks like shit since it is sub 60 FPS. There is a reason VR try to aim for 96 FPS as a minimum. The sweet spot is between 96 Hz and 120 Hz for _smooth_ motion.
      * A high frame can't save crappy directing. They had TWO directors due to the extreme workload -- Peter almost suffered complete burn-out due to Warner Bros fucking them over.

    2. Re:Hobbit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the main reason VR aims so high is because they include needing to render each frame twice - once for each eye. 96 FPS stereoscopic is exactly as smooth as 48 FPS, except that you see a different image in each eye.

    3. Re:Hobbit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're not talking about shutter 3D systems where the FPS is halved. With VR you have 1 display with 2 logical displays or 2 full displays. There is no halving of FPS. There is a halving of available GPU power yes. But you're not halving the FPS.

    4. Re:Hobbit by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Twice as many frames of crap than the usual. The Hobbit was the last movie I saw in theater and made me swear it off for good.

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    5. Re:Hobbit by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Your information is out-of-date. You are talking about old school VR from the 90's.

      In contradistinction, VR today renders each frame for each eye. And that was THREE years ago.

      http://www.anandtech.com/show/...

      "Lastly, NVIDIAâ(TM)s fourth and final latency optimization for VR Direct is VR SLI. And this feature is simple enough: rather than using alternate frame rendering (AFR) to render both eyes at once on one GPU, split up the workload such that each GPU is working on each eye simultaneously. AFR, though highly compatible with traditional monoscopic rendering, introduces additional latency that would be undesirable for VR. By rendering each eye separately on each GPU, NVIDIA is able to apply the performance benefits of SLI to VR without creating additional latency. Given the very high performance and low latencies required for VR, itâ(TM)s currently expected that most high-end games supporting VR headsets will need SLI to achieve their necessary performance, so being able to use SLI without a latency penalty will be an important part of making VR gaming commercially viable."

  6. Silmarillion? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Personally, I loved reading it - but I'm not sure there's a huge television market of people wanting to watch stories where everyone eventually gets killed by the bad guys.

    In comparison to The Silmarillion, the Game of Thrones is a feel-good epic.

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    1. Re:Silmarillion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally, I loved reading it - but I'm not sure there's a huge television market of people wanting to watch stories where everyone eventually gets killed by the bad guys.

      In comparison to The Silmarillion, the Game of Thrones is a feel-good epic.

      Indeed. Imagine just doing Children of Hurin.

      Incest, betrayal, dragons, and literally mountains of dead.

    2. Re: Silmarillion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You had me at ince....I mean dragons.

    3. Re:Silmarillion? by taustin · · Score: 2

      Personally, I'd rather see "Gollum: The Early Years." When he's hiding in the case, with no light. Hopefully, while he's going through a mute phase.

      Because the black filler between the commercials sounds more interesting than this.

    4. Re:Silmarillion? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I just read the wiki synopsis. A barrel of laughs, are the children of Hurin. I bet Game of Thrones fans would love it, though.

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    5. Re:Silmarillion? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      I guess it'll depend who all's alive after the upcoming final season. In Children of Hurin, it's basically no one.

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    6. Re:Silmarillion? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      I don't really see the point. It makes no sense to do prequels of that, basically throwing away money. Going to make up new stories, might just as well create a whole new story theme, it seems a waste of money to pay for basically hobbits (elves and everything else are licence free, only the hobbits ties it to Lord of the Rings, so you basically pay licence fees for pretty much nothing but limiting the story).

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    7. Re:Silmarillion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Games of Elves?

    8. Re:Silmarillion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HEY!

      Galadriel wins

      admittedly she's only a walk on extra in Children of Hurin, but she does survive

  7. too many streaming platforms by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are just to many too many streaming platforms out there. Much less a lot of HBO like ones that have shows on them I don't want to have to buy / deal with 4-5 different stores / ui's / apps / offline rules.

    HBO
    amazon prime
    youtube red
    CBS All Access
    netflix
    etc

    1. Re:too many streaming platforms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You ain't seen nothin' yet. Soon every media brand will have its own streaming service with exclusive content and a monthly subscription charge.

    2. Re:too many streaming platforms by taustin · · Score: 2

      And when that happens (and it will), I'll still have seen nothing.

      Because I won't be bothering.

    3. Re:too many streaming platforms by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Everyone bitches that the cable monthly bill costs too much.

      Welcome to TV a la carte.

      And yes, it sucks.

    4. Re:too many streaming platforms by WrongMonkey · · Score: 1
      Step 1: Make two friends.

      Step 2: Each subscribe to one or two streaming platforms.

      Step 3: Share your passwords.

    5. Re:too many streaming platforms by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Welcome to TV a la carte.

      This is one a la carte model, but we could easily have it per-show. The technology exists to make it happen, and it probably will happen eventually. There are lots of reasons why the current distributors don't want it to happen, but if you look at TPB you will rapidly see that lots of people want to get their content per-episode and finding a way to get them to pay for it is potentially lucrative.

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    6. Re:too many streaming platforms by mjwx · · Score: 1

      There are just to many too many streaming platforms out there. Much less a lot of HBO like ones that have shows on them I don't want to have to buy / deal with 4-5 different stores / ui's / apps / offline rules.

      HBO
      amazon prime
      youtube red
      CBS All Access
      netflix
      etc

      Predicted this a while back, a service will come along and combine all of these services into one package that you can access through a single device connected to a cable. All that has happened before will happen again... except we'll herald it as NEW and EXCITING because its ON THE INTERWEBS !1!!11!ONE!!1!ELEVEN!!!

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    7. Re:too many streaming platforms by MitchDev · · Score: 1

      This.
      They are going to kill the "golden goose" with their greed. We don't need tons of separate (with their own charges, and software interfaces) streaming services with their own exclusives that might be worth watching, buts tons of crap not worth anyone's time as the bulk...

    8. Re:too many streaming platforms by hipp5 · · Score: 1

      There are just to many too many streaming platforms out there.

      It's almost like we need one platform to rule them all...

    9. Re:too many streaming platforms by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      It isn't like CBS or HBO would have enough stuff that you'd want to subscribe year round.

    10. Re:too many streaming platforms by maelkum · · Score: 1

      At the very moment these media brands all set up their own streaming services they will see a curious thing: instead of setting up N monthly $10 subscriptions, people will rediscover the wonders of torrents...

      I don't know what they are thinking.

    11. Re:too many streaming platforms by maelkum · · Score: 1

      That service already exists. Ever heard of TPB?

      When Netflix came their influence faded a bit because people were able to get their content easily, legally, and *now* instead of waiting for a torrent to download. But the greed of media companies may well reverse the trend.

  8. I'd rather watch Wile E. Coyote by timmee · · Score: 0

    defy physics in a cartoon. At least it was all in the name of humor. I naively went to the Peter Jackson movies hoping to see my favorite fantasy novel brought to life and instead saw my favorite Warner Bros cartoons translated into CGI Middle Earth action scenes.

    1. Re:I'd rather watch Wile E. Coyote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Those three LotR films were ponderous, long winded and felt like they would never end.

      Seems like they nailed it to me.

    2. Re:I'd rather watch Wile E. Coyote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, the books had some good serious themes that somehow didn't quite make it into the movie: the importance of knowledge, perseverance, humility, mercy, etc.

  9. HarperCollins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    HarperCollins has the print publishing rights to Tolkein's work, so if there are any books to come out of this....

    1. Re:HarperCollins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost right. The print publishing rights to Tolkien's works are owned by the Tolkien Estate (Christopher Tolkien and others). The rights are managed (not owned) by Harper Collins.

  10. Arfghhghhj by jocarren · · Score: 1

    Get Blind Guardian to make the soundtrack!!

  11. Hopefully it will be written by J.R.R Tolkien by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Otherwise, pass. Not interested in another Hollywood knockoff.

  12. Milk by backslashdot · · Score: 1

    Someone call PETA itâ(TM)s animal abuse to milk this poor cow so many times.

  13. One does not simply by cyber-vandal · · Score: 4, Funny

    Never mind...

  14. As long as there is no "Jar Jar" syndrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The closer they stay to Tolkien the better. . .

  15. Could be great, could be terrible by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

    Anything less than production values equal to the movies won't do well.

    Aside from that, it'll depend on the writing. A TV adaptation of the tale of Lúthien and Beren could be very cool. Tolkien wrote the bare outline in the Silmarillion, but no dialog and not a whole lot of detail. It's a love story, so Hollywood can just use it, rather than shoehorning in a bullshit love story of their own (thanks for nothing, Hobbit). It also fits well in the current zeitgeist, since Lúthien does a lot of the heavy lifting, again without any shoehorning of bullshit.

    Now as another poster has pointed out, it's a tragedy. Everybody dies. More than once, in Beren's case. (Yay for divine intervention.) That plays well in Asian markets, but not so well in the West. There is a happily-ever-after for the pair though, so good enough.

    Done well, it could work. Done badly, it could look and feel like MTV's travesty of an adaptation of the Elfstones of Shannara. We can expect Netflix to do a better job than MTV. How much better remains to be seen.

    1. Re:Could be great, could be terrible by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      We can expect Netflix to do a better job than MTV.

      Crap. Of course I meant Amazon, not Netflix. Still better than MTV, if not quite as good as Netflix.

    2. Re:Could be great, could be terrible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Done badly, it could look and feel like MTV's travesty of an adaptation of the Elfstones of Shannara.

      I didn't think MTV's Shannara Chronicles were all that bad, myself. The Shannara books are more like pop music whereas the LOTR books are more like opera music - lighter versus more serious. MTV's adaption had a pop music feel - but so do the books. On the other hand, Peter Jackson's adaption of LOTR was like Britany Spears performing Wagner - or fish flavored ice cream - leaving me feeling like I needed a shower to get the weirdness off.

    3. Re:Could be great, could be terrible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That plays well in Asian markets, but not so well in the West.

      WTF? It would flop in Asian market, you racist

    4. Re:Could be great, could be terrible by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      >travesty of an adaptation of the Elfstones of Shannara

      You mean, "Pretty Young People With Pointy Ears (and not a hell of a lot else going for it)"?

      Yeah, sad they botched it. But that's the market these days - forget the premise, are the actors young, pretty, and the characters in constant relationship drama regardless of logic?

    5. Re:Could be great, could be terrible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now as another poster has pointed out, it's a tragedy. Everybody dies. More than once, in Beren's case. (Yay for divine intervention.)

      Dragon Ball fans will be all over it.

  16. Re:No one cares. by meglon · · Score: 3, Informative

    Don't knock it, Bored of the Rings was hilarious... although it was a better read in the late 70's than it would be now; it really didn't age well.

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  17. Spoken like someone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I hope Peter will be involved somehow..

    who didn't read the books.

  18. Looks like they're out to ruin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    all our childhood memories.

  19. Isnt it... by meglon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And i always thought the name of the prequel to the Lord of the Rings was: The Hobbit.

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    1. Re:Isnt it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They want to make a 5 season series because they felt the 3 movies were too rushed.

  20. I would like to see the War of the Last Alliance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That would explain (to some) why Elrond is such an asshole (especially when it comes to Man).

  21. why?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    good grief. we need another one of these like we need another star warz. jesus save us from mediocrity.

  22. Not live action, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Animation. Expensive, high-quality animation for many many hours.

  23. Re:No one cares. by sconeu · · Score: 1

    I agree with this.... [a shadow seems to pass over sconeu's face]. I would say more, but a shadow seems to have passed over my face.

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  24. "Bad Taste" - Full movie on Youtube link by mha · · Score: 1

    https://youtu.be/t6AHCK3if-I

    I only watched the first five minutes but that's enough.

    1. Re:"Bad Taste" - Full movie on Youtube link by MoaDweeb · · Score: 1

      Bad Taste is my favourite just ahead of Meet the Feebles.

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  25. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's endlessly milk the "Tolkien Franchise" until nobody gives a damn about his fantasy world.

    Just like Star Wars.

    1. Re:Great by Moheeheeko · · Score: 1

      seems to be working for George R R Martin.

  26. wait, what? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    This really puzzles me. Christopher Tolkien has said many times, some in court, that no further words of his father's will ever be filmed. That LotR and The Hobbit were exceptions because JRRT sold the rights while he was still alive, but no more under any circumstances. This is why Jackson had The Hobbit and some material from the appendices at the end of Return of the King (if you haven't read them, you should -- there are stories in there) instead of filming "The Quest of Erebor", the larger, more serious version of The Hobbit that was supposed to align more completely with LotR, which JRRT hadn't finished prior to his death. QoE is told from Frodo's perspective, as he receives the tale from Gandalf.

    So why, after all these years of feeding off his father's works, and hamstringing further attempts at filming his father's works, does Christopher suddenly give the ok to film other stories, to his old nemesis New Line, of all people?

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    1. Re:wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That may be why they announced a LOTR prequel instead of a Silmarillion series, because the licencing terms dictate they're allowed to.

    2. Re:wait, what? by Gussington · · Score: 1

      This really puzzles me. Christopher Tolkien has said many times, some in court, that no further words of his father's will ever be filmed.

      Who said it's his words? As with things like Riverdale, they could just buy the rights to the characters (if they haven't already) and do whatever they like with them

    3. Re:wait, what? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      This really puzzles me. Christopher Tolkien has said many times, some in court, that no further words of his father's will ever be filmed.

      Who said it's his words? As with things like Riverdale, they could just buy the rights to the characters (if they haven't already) and do whatever they like with them

      Fair enough. (And incidentally, I'd have no interest in watching that.) But then, in what capacity is the Tolkien estate (which means Christopher, let's face it) involved?

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    4. Re:wait, what? by MitchDev · · Score: 1

      "So why, after all these years of feeding off his father's works, and hamstringing further attempts at filming his father's works, does Christopher suddenly give the ok to film other stories, to his old nemesis New Line, of all people?"

      Chris has no talent to write on his own, so it's the standard reason... $$$$$$$

    5. Re:wait, what? by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      So why, after all these years of feeding off his father's works, and hamstringing further attempts at filming his father's works, does Christopher suddenly give the ok to film other stories, to his old nemesis New Line, of all people?

      Christopher Tolkien is resigning from his position with his father's estate. A new regime is taking control.

  27. If it's an interesting story who cares? by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    The Hobbit should have never been 3 2 hour movies. Especially as LoTR was 3 2 hour moves.

    That said, if Netflix can bring interesting stories to the canon, who the hell cares? Good stories are good, bad stories are bad.

    1. Re: If it's an interesting story who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think Netflix is producing 'good stories'. I would revisit your definition of good. Did you accidentally type 'good' instead of 'poop'? Autocorrect, maybe? If so, my bad.

    2. Re:If it's an interesting story who cares? by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      The Hobbit should have never been 3 2 hour movies. Especially as LoTR was 3 2 hour moves.

      That said, if Netflix can bring interesting stories to the canon, who the hell cares? Good stories are good, bad stories are bad.

      Netflixs series were great when the first started making original series. Now it is mostly what ever crap they can get thee hands on to prop up there library (because the studios are trying to rape them on the licencing of there back catalogs). There are still a few gems comming out everynow and then but you cant count on everything they do to be amazing anymore.
            However this is Amazon making these not Netflix and none of thier original series have been that great in my opinion.

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  28. Hey, great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another property I have enjoyed my whole life ruined by a greedy corporation headed by a CEO with a tiny pee pee in the name of $$$. Thanks, Jeff, thanks a lot.

  29. Silmarillion? by JumbleGuy · · Score: 1

    It's possible the new series will mine the ponderous but rich Silmarillion for material...

    Not while Christopher Tolkien is alive.

  30. Jeff Bezos... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Owns one of the rings!

  31. Hasn't this already been done? by The123king · · Score: 1

    Surely The Hobbit was the prequel to Lord of the Rings...

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  32. Re:No one cares. by syn3rg · · Score: 1

    +1

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  33. Re:I would like to see the War of the Last Allianc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ??? Elrond is the friendliest of the Eldar to man by a long shot (especially being half one himself