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Analysts Cut iPhone X Shipment Forecasts, Citing Lukewarm Demand (bloomberg.com)
According to Bloomberg, analysts have lowered iPhone X shipment projections for the first quarter of next year, citing signs of lackluster demand at the end of the holiday shopping season. From the report: Sinolink Securities Co. analyst Zhang Bin said in a report Monday that handset shipments in the period may be as low as 35 million, or 10 million less than he previously estimated. "After the first wave of demand has been fulfilled, the market now worries that the high price of the iPhone X may weaken demand in the first quarter," Zhang wrote. JL Warren Capital LLC said shipments will drop to 25 million units in the first quarter of 2018 from 30 million units in the fourth quarter, citing reduced orders at some Apple suppliers. The drop reflects "weak demand because of the iPhone X's high price point and a lack of interesting innovations," the New York-based research firm said in note to clients Friday. "Bad news here is that highly publicized and promoted X did not boost the global demand for iPhone X," according to the note. Apple is said to have trimmed its first-quarter sales forecast to 30 million units from 50 million, Taiwanese newspaper Economic Daily News reported, citing unidentified supply chain officials. It also said Hon Hai Precision Industry Co.'s main iPhone X manufacturing hub in Zhengzhou, China, stopped recruiting workers. The company also known as Foxconn is the sole iPhone X assembler, and also makes the handsets in Shenzhen and Chengdu.
Buy your own spy equipment with FaceID and TouchID and always-on always-locating tech with your own money, not with ours.
Besides, why would I want a bigger phone with a camera?
Wake me when you issue the iPhone 9 SE, the iPhone 8 version intended for India and China, with a smaller form and none of the FaceID stuff I don't want.
And forget about that Watch stuff, if I want to wear jewelry, I'll buy it myself.
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I was told Face ID would change everything!
You can help this situation by stopping by your local Apple store and purchasing multiple Iphone Xs. Only you can help Apple make its forecast. They are only $1000+ each. Have a heart this Christmas and help them out. Think of the Apple employees and their families.
Demand after the last quarter in the year with the iPhone X being new and around Xmas will drop the first quarter of the new year? Unheard of!
A $1000 phone? What exactly did they expect? There are only so many fanbois. If you want an iPhone that does the job, you get an iPhone SE. I still find that a bit pricey, but on the Android side you won’t find anything decent below that price point anyway and I like to get upgrades from the manufacturer for longer than six months. Something that is not a given with most Android phones. (The Google handsets are not available in my country)
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Wow, you really understand how climate works.
The habitual Apple doomsayers are claiming with zero proof that iPhone X sales are below expectation. Even if that iPhone sales are down, nobody but Apple knows how it is spread over their (currently uncharacteristically large) number of iPhone models. Apple currently sells the X, the 8+ the 8, the 7+, the 7, the 6+, the 6 and the SE. So who's to say which model production is below expectations?
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And it could be argued that spending $1000 on a phone when you can get a perfectly serviceable one for a third of that is a form of gluttony.
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didn't you get the memo? bwm's are okay now, it's the audi owners you need to be mindful of.
...my next iPhone will be an 8 or 8s (depending on how long current one holds out), not a X. Uh uh, no way. Too much money, not enough differentiation between the two (facial recognition and animated poo are NOT selling points to me).
Are they really cutting the forecast rather than simply cutting the price?!
Insecurity is.
Only Apple knows for sure what they have sold so far in iPhones and how itâ(TM)s distributed among X, 8, 8 Plus, 7, 7 Plus, SE, 6s, and 6 Plus for this quarter. (Apple improves its product production ramp/forecast so they donâ(TM)t run out on products due to high demand every year.) I have been using an iPhone X for 19 days. It works great for me. I upgraded from a 6s. (Which never had any battery or crashing problems) Mainly for: better cameras, OLED screen, the A11, the relatively large screen size in relation to actual phone size (the 8 plus is too big for me), faceID I live in Silicon Valley and have seen a fair number of iPhone Xâ(TM)s in the wild.
People call it a $1000 phone. Not in Canada it isn't. If I want a phone that has at least as much storage space as my old iPhone 6, and has the two year warranty, Apple wants $2,044.26 CAD after tax for it.
If the iPhone X cost just $1000, you know what? I'd probably buy it. I'd get a two-year contract with my carrier and probably pay $500 out of pocket.
I wouldn't be surprised that Apple will soon announce price cuts on the iPhone X. A US price of US$899 for the 64 GB model and $1,049 for the 256 GB model could happen as early as January 2018, and anyone who bought an iPhone X after December 1, 2017 couple possibly (though probably not likely) even get monetary compensation (either $100 rebate, $100 Apple Store gift certificate, or $100 iTunes card).
You'll notice the term was changed to 'climate change' due to the non-simplistic consequences.
Study. By the way, this has nothing to do with iphones.
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As an iphone user who has used android many times and found it didn't fit my needs or lifestyle, I can tell you exactly why this happened.
For the same reason I don't have an iPhone X... PRICE. (as everyone goes, duh, but wait...)
It's not about the price being high, it's about the price being imbalanced. Sure, I don't agree with it being a grand, but if it is going to be a grand then they shouldn't have a damned iMac 21 inch for only $99 more...
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The MacPro is a perfect example of this. Iâ(TM)ve been saying for years that Cook has been overseeing an shift from technical innovation to a logistical innovation and dramatic product margins increase.
Well not really a logistical innovation, common sense really if you look at the cost of shipping the trash can MacPro compared with the previous tower MacPro. Not to mention the reduction in COGs (cost of the materials to make a MacPro).
But you cannot really blame him, heâ(TM)s a logistics guy, heâ(TM)s doing what he knows. And investors have loved him for it.
My iPhone 6 still works just fine thank you, though I will need a new battery soon (my second replacement). My life would not enhanced by any of the new hardware dependent feature that requires a new phone.
With little to no growth or mainly declining market share from hereon?
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The iPhone X is a really good phone. However they sold it a nearly the same time as the iPhone 8. While the X had a big initial push for all those who wanted the premium phone. After the initial rush and Christmas season is over. We get the people who wants to upgrade their old phones the version 6 and under. And may figure they want the with the 8 or even go with the cheaper 7.
What should had been the iPhone 8 should had been sold next year this year should had been the 7s. So this is an off year.
All in all it wasn’t anything an engineer like Woz is qualified to handle. The phone itself is fine on par with the premium phones of its time. This decline in sales is due to over expectations in the current market where you have other premium phones on the market. While the X is good it isn’t light years ahead.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Shouldn't reply but...
AGW means a more unstable climate hence the "climate change". Global warming means that that temperatures are globally increasing _but_ it doesn't mean that local temperatures can't decrease. Look for instance on the Scandinavian climate - the temperatures there will decrease drastically if the Gulf stream wasn't there pumping heat. The temperatures of Russia wouldn't be similarly affected by a decrease/reversal of the stream due to continental effects, the same applies to mainland Europe.
Unstable climate can lead to rapid changes in weather patterns and that also means uncommon events causing local cooling will be more common, the same applies to local heating. But that is still uncommon exceptions to the main pattern - that of a global temperature increase.
People talking about short-term local temperatures as related directly to AGW don't know what they are talking about. Yes that includes you. The summer isn't warmer because of AGW but because it was warmer caused by extremely complex systems causing what we call weather. But see the previous chunk of text ^.
If you'd actually read up on the research you'd know that ice cores doesn't tell this as anything normal. The change is very rapid compared to normal climate change. But it's easier being an anonymous idiot.
Also the iPhones are going to have significantly more profit per volume and weight in shipping than the BMW. You could probably fit over 1000 iPhones in the volume of space it would take to ship a single car overseas and the shipment would probably still weigh less. Assuming apple taking $500 in profit per device and you potentially have $500,000 profit in the same place of a car that maybe brings in midish double digits thousands in profit.
The iPhone X and Galaxy Note 8 are $50 difference in price. Yet no one on Slashdot excoriates Samsung for the profit margin on their phones.
Why?
So I guess the need for a $1000 phone is not as high as apple expected. Guess the disciples of Job's are growing up a bit? Or maybe their mommy's and daddy's are not willing to support their habit any longer.
Funny, Samsung must've made the exact-same calculation for the GN8. It is only $50 less than the iPhone X (which, at around $1k, is insignificant), and Samsung doesn't have to buy its display (probably the most expensive single component), and its Flash (another pricey component) from anyone else, like Apple does.
ROTFLMFAO!
a $1000.00 phone?
Particularly a me-too one with no differentiating features. And no headphone jack, maybe that comes with the $2000 model.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
There's a far more alarming trend than global warming but it's actually correlated to simply talking about global warming. What will kill us is not temperature rise but rather the sharp increase in ignorance per comment.
"finance for 1% or lower. Invest the cash in something and earn 9%" In which parallel universe?
The last new car I bought was financed at 0.9%. My 401(k) has averaged over 20% annual returns for over 5 years, and the year just ending is over 30%. Who''s living in the parallel universe?
Neither is the Samsung worth that kind of money, either. Supply and demand. soft demand + high inventory = lower prices
I don't know. I use 6% as my typical investment growth. It's a little conservative, but it works.
Therefore, I'd lose money if I paid off my 0% loan early, unless the investments in question lose value (which isn't impossible, of course).
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Have you seen all the extras you get with the various Samsung devices? We're not talking about a $5 pair of iBuds and a "free" USB dongle.
One of the offers for the Note 8 was either:
1) a free Gear 360 camera, or
2) a free 128GB memory card and Fast Wireless Charging Convertible
Another offer for the Galaxy S8 included the Desktop dock, Gear VR, etc. Hundreds of dollars of accessories -- it would be like if Apple offered it's $169 bluetooth AirPods for free, which will never happen.
Have you seen all the extras you get with the various Samsung devices? We're not talking about a $5 pair of iBuds and a "free" USB dongle.
One of the offers for the Note 8 was either:
1) a free Gear 360 camera, or
2) a free 128GB memory card and Fast Wireless Charging Convertible
Another offer for the Galaxy S8 included the Desktop dock, Gear VR, etc. Hundreds of dollars of accessories -- it would be like if Apple offered it's $169 bluetooth AirPods for free, which will never happen.
Giveaways are the sure sign that a Company has no faith in the desirability of their product on its own, and/or the sales numbers suck.
Take your pick.
Apple doesn't generally do Giveaways because their products stand on their own. And before you are tempted to reply with some ridiculous, snarky remark about Apple Fanbois mindlessly lapping-up anything Apple sells, keep in mind we're talking about dozens and dozens of millions of units-sold. That's an AWFUL lot of "Fanbois". Perhaps maybe, just maybe, Apple's products are, wait for it... ACTUALLY DESIRABLE TO MANY, MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!!!
Nah, that CAN'T be it, right?
Moron.
Fuck off dude. I don't buy Samsung devices. The most I'll pay for a phone is $400, and the most I've paid thus far is $350 (Moto X4, which is overpriced as is) -- of which I only bothered with that due to the wife's phone breaking, my Nexus 6 going to her, and preferring to stay on Project-Fi with a supported device that can actually use Sprint's network where necessary.
Otherwise I'd get another $150 - $250 Xiaomi. The Xiaomi Redmi 3s Pro Prime was fantastic for $160 2 years ago.