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Microsoft's Fall Creators Update Already on More Than Half of All Windows 10 PCs (betanews.com)
Wayne Williams, writing for BetaNews: Microsoft releases two big feature updates a year for Windows 10. 2017 saw the arrival of the Creators Update in April, followed by the Fall Creators Update in October. The Creators Update was a slow and at times problematic release. A quarter of Windows 10 users still didn't have it by the time its successor rolled out. Thankfully, Microsoft seems to have learned some important lessons, and the Fall Creators Update is being installed at a much faster rate. According to the latest figures from AdDuplex, a mere two months after it launched, the Fall Creators Update (1709) is already on more than half of the Windows 10 PCs in use -- 53.6 percent to be precise. That's up from 20.5 percent a mere month ago.
I think I'll wait and let everyone else take the brunt of the damage.
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That is big news.
My Dell laptop won't upgrade to the latest and greatest version of Windows 10. I have to do a fresh install every time. Meh... I needed a larger SSD anyway.
Ergo there must be a lot of creating going on
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I remember it telling me it was going to update. I spent a half hour trying to figure out where to disable it before turning to the web where I spent another wasted two hours before I just gave up. I feel very violated.
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Their dev tools don't even fully support targeting the 16299 SDK.
What a joke. Scratch the surface even a teensy tiny bit and you find that every computing platform: Windows, MacOS, and Linux - they're all in a total state of disrepair.
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Trying to make Windows seem like less of a platform for spreadsheet jockeys and gamer dweebs?
Seems most major windows 10 updates are pieces of shit that won’t install anyway, without manually flushing the update repository folder and stopping services.
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Have they fixed the NVME bug that prevents installation on certain machines?
This update is actually a good one, it finally fixes the Diagonal Tearing Problem with Nvidia Optimus Laptops.
Three of my 9 computers would not update. Two of them failed and rolled back. The third got stuck in a boot loop. However, when I formatted the hd and clean install 1709, they run just fine now. Four pc updated just fine and the other two I am still putting off.
When you force people to update their systems, regardless if it destroys their configurations or mangles their programs, machines get the update.
It's almost as if not giving people a choice whether to upgrade means they're going to get the update.
Microsoft add/changes features too often in Windows 10. This has caused some really strange behavior on my Windows 10 machines. Some things it has done:
- I have specifically set my lock screen background image to "image 1". Sometimes when I boot my machine, the lock screen background has been changed to "image 2". Often, another reboot sets it back to "image 1". What's the point in having a setting if the system doesn't always honor it?
- When the Creator's Update was installed, I noticed that it looked like one of my desktop icons was missing. Upon further inspection, it just looked like some (but not all) of my desktop icons were moved around a little, and a gap left at the top.
- I have never joined any of my home machines to a Windows domain or workgroup, but on some reboots, there is an icon on my desktop called HOMEGROUP. It cannot be moved or deleted. Only stopping the "Homegroup Provider" service causes the icon to vanish, and then it stays away until some other random time.
The language nazi in me can stay quiet and not go into an "It's Autumn, idiots!" rant.
Personally I'd have called it the "Crash Update", but Fall Update is close enough.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
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Who's AdDuplex and why should we trust them?
Looks like it's an online advertising company and by default those outfits aren't to be trusted unless the opposite is proven.
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
I had successfully avoided it until I stupidly installed Malwarebytes and it enabled the windows update service and associated scheduled tasks, without asking my permission to do so or even notifying me.
Malwarebytes used to be a good scanner. Now it is completely useless to me, they can't be trusted anymore.
The reach and scope of this Windows 10 botnet is truly shocking. Can't we shut down the C&C servers before it impacts more machines?
It must be wonderful to get a new version of Windows packed with great new features.
When you have some time in your busy schedule waiting for updates to finish installing, interrupting boot loops, reinstalling software Microsoft doesn't want you to use, dodging regressions and restoring all of your settings (again) send me a postcard of all those amazing new features that makes Windows 10 so much better.
Microsoft is shady as shit and despite disabling the Windows Update service on my Pro machines I find it re-enables and demanding restarts, even restarting in violation of the "no auto-restart with logged on user" group policy, so here's a solution to blocking Windows 10 updates that works.
.reg file somewhere, open an admin command prompt and "net stop wuauserv" and then DELETE that key. This disables and deletes the entire Windows Update service from the system. If you want to update, import that .reg file you saved and update. "net stop wuauserv" and delete it again when finished (you don't even need it once the settings panel indicates it needs a restart, the post-update work is done by internal Windows components.)
.reg file with these contents as a companion to your "install wuauserv.reg" and call it "delete wuauserv.reg":
Go to regedit, find HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\wuauserv, export that key to a
Make a
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\wuauserv]
No, it's not a pretty solution and won't work for your mom and dad, but it keeps Microsoft from shooting update torpedoes up your computer's buttpipes.
come 2019 it will go to a subscription model. Pay up or they brick your computer...
This doesn't sound so bad given current malware as a service model Microsoft has adopted for Windows 10.
We had some friends and family over for the holidays. One of them brought his laptop over so we could play some online PvE games together. After about 3 or 4 hours, we both needed a break and went into the kitchen to grab some apple pie and go watch a movie.
I remember jokingly saying "you sure we can leave that Win 10 system alone?" and he replied with "yeah, I killed Windows Update, it'll be fine".
Two and a half hours later, he's running the Fall Creators Update. It not only broke the game we were playing (instant crash on launch), but fucked up about a dozen different 3D programs in various ways, uninstalled several of his applications, and broke the system audio output.
To say he was livid was an understatement. He had a full system image at home so it wasn't that big of a deal, but it totally fucked up our night regardless. He swears WU and every other idiot auto-updating process was disabled or neutered, and yet the FCU still made it's way onto that system- almost purposefully waiting for the computer to go idle and for us to walk away before it did anything.
Last I heard, he was looking into replacing that laptop with something that could boot Linux and run Windows 7 under a VM. It's pretty fucking clear you don't own a a Windows 10 system, and you'd have to be a moron to assume that such a computer could be relied upon in any way.
It's a shame ReactOS isn't further along than it is. If they had decent Windows 7 x64 compatibility and domain support, they'd probably wipe Microsoft off the face of the planet right about now.
Can no longer mirror to Roku 2 (driver error) and have to relearn the idiosyncrasies of the touchpad all over over again. That is just for starters.
Betanews this, Betanews that. It's all about directing traffic to Betanews so Betanews can get some advert revenue. Does Slashdot get a nice "thank you" envelope handed over at the end of the month?
I don't know if its a lot of devices, but I know that at least several users report being upgraded to Fall Creator that had devices, software or apps that were not supported. Of course with software and apps sometimes the update simply disables or uninstalls it. There is some hardware that appears to not support Fall Creator too. I don't know if half is a really good number since so many get pushed this update automatically. Or if plenty of devices are either preventing the upgrade or simply not capable of accepting it? More then half would be great on a voluntary upgrade path for a OS. But clearly a forced upgrade probably by now should see something a bit more then a little over half.
Maybe we should request North Korea turn their hackers on Microsoft, and offer to crowdfund via virtual currency different levels of attacks against Microsoft infrastructure in exchange for helping North Korea stay financed in spite of international embargoes against them.
Sounds like a win-win situation to me.
come 2019 it will go to a subscription model. Pay up or they brick your computer...
I am seven days away from Cisco bricking a gigabit switch I thought I bought but apparently only rented, because I am not going to pay a surprise maintenance fee to keep it working. "That's some nice PoE switch you've got there, t'd be a terrible thing if somethin' happened to it..." After a year of no mention of a maintenance fee, suddenly I get a "pay up or we turn it off" demand, every few days for the last two months.
The maintenance fee is large enough that I can buy 8 Netgear switches that do the same thing. My Netgear switch can fail seven times over the next three years and I'll come out even, and Netgear has never threatened to brick something I bought from them because I won't pay them more.
Proudly windows free for 5 years.
In seven days or less I will be proudly Cisco free.
How about test your update thoroughly prior to release with and deploy it to all systems as soon as possible?
Nor could I, on my (Home Version) Asus ultrabook with wifi-only. It eventually forced the update. The update broke the wifi. "Let's cross this one off your list". It was never on MY LIST. HOW CAN YOU PRESUME TO KNOW WHAT'S ON MY LIST?
Might wanna check out the not-so-widely known 'Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB'. By default, there's no metro crap, no windows app store, no edge browser, no installed bullshit "apps", no cortana, full control over telemetry, full control over Windows Update (as in not temporary postpone, indefinitely--entirely up to you), no random reboots, no unremovable tiles in the Start menu. This edition also doesn't get horseshit like "creators updates", it's updated entirely differently; 10 years of support for security patches/fixes.
Keep in mind "Enterprise" is _NOT_ the same as "Enterprise LTSB" (Long term service branch); it's intended for "mission critical" machines as MS puts it, machines that require stability over all the above listed BS anti-features. Sadly enough, and to their loss, Microsoft doesn't sell these editions to individuals/general public, so you'll have to be a little creative and acquire it by other means.
This is what a real upgrade from Windows 7 SHOULD have been all along.
The real sad part is, MS doesn't want people running Enterprise editions, not sure how to justify creating what basically everyone has cried about since the release of 10, and continue serving up crap to the consumer editions... I'd say its almost an identical situation as Vista vs Server 2008, the difference was night and day.
*infecting more than half
Youâ(TM)re welcome.
Please share what model, or is it pretty much any Cisco product?