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Windows 10 Will Soon Let Users Track the Data Microsoft Collects (thurrott.com)
Windows 10 will soon get a new application that will allow users to keep track of the data that Microsoft collects from their device. From a report: Ahead of the Data Privacy Day, Microsoft today introduced a new Diagnostic Data Viewer app for Windows 10 -- first coming to Windows Insiders -- that enables users to view all the diagnostic data that's being collected by Windows 10. The new Diagnostic Data Viewer will display different types of diagnostic data collected by the OS. This includes Common Data (your OS version, device ID/type, etc.), Device Connectivity and Configuration data (device capabilities, user settings, peripherals and network info), Product and Service Performance (device health, performance, reliability data), Product and Service Usage (data on usage of device, apps, OS), and Software Setup and Inventory (update information). The app includes a search feature that lets you search for specific items.
They specifically say we can view the diagnostic data, but they do not mention the user profiling data that is used for advertising or the data that is provided to the NSA. I applaud this first step but it's really just a feel-good type of thing. The community needs to keep on Microsoft for full transparency.
Will they be able to see all the data before it is sent in a format that guarantees there is nothing else to it?
What about all the rest that is not diagnostic?
This is the killer feature that will give Microsoft a foothold over its greatest competitor, Linus Torvalds.
Well, that and FISA Section 702.
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It's time this unbridled data collecting by companies becomes outlawed.Of course this isn't as simple as it looks but please make a serious start.
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Windows 10 Will Soon Let Users Track the Data Microsoft admits that it Collects (thurrott.com)
Track? How about stop?
How useful is seeing the data if I can't stop them? At best it may be an eye opener. But that is far from the ideal situation.
Tracking what they track is nice, but what people really want/need is an option to turn off tracking altogether?
It will show the data that Microsoft wants you to know that it is taking. Unless this tool is open source you would be unwise to assume that it was showing you everything; even then: does the operating system keep (or make visible) all the files that it sends ?
Exactly. We need complete transparency. Corporate lying destroys credibility, and degrades the quality of the lives of those who engage in it.
The overall story: Microsoft and Windows cannot be trusted. Windows 10 is possibly the worst spyware ever made. And: 7 ways Windows 10 pushes ads at you...
Intel CPUs cannot be trusted: We translated Intel's attempt to spin its way out of the CPU security bug PR nightmare.
Articles about spyware in CPUs
I would be very interested to know the sociology behind Microsoft's adoption of the abusive methods of Google's Android operating system.
Don't collect data from my devices. No ifs and buts. Don't.
Who says that's ALL they really collect?
Sounds like it'll shut a few people up but overall nothing changes.
Nobody's forcing anyone to use products that collect information on you. Why is everyone so uptight about having their dick pics scanned by "Company X" anyways? If you want to get something somewhere in a safe and secure manner, there are ways to do it; or just don't put extremely sensitive stuff on your daily device of choice.
Sure this post can be read as flame bait but let's be honest here, unless they start using said data to put people in jail over some very questionable Google searches, who fucking cares what they know about you? If *they* REALLY want to know who you are, they'll find out. Otherwise it's just a way for them to cater to their audiences/market their products better. A *competent* criminal in today's world wouldn't dump everything about them in digital format anyways.
I'll worry when they feed it all to an A.I. that spits out something along the lines of "I've concluded person X is a danger to society and should be incarcerated." and we actually treat that as absolute truth by going ahead and doing it. THEN people should flip their shit.
I tend to rant.
What they are doing is trying to mislead you into thinking that diagnostic data is the only thing they are collecting. The truth is they are collecting a whole lot more and selling it to advertisers but they aren't giving you a tool to see that data.
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Track the user, report to Microsoft
Track the tracking, report to user
Track the user checking the tracking, report to Microsoft
Track the user not checking the tracking, report to Microsoft
Track the tracking checking the user tracking the tracking, report to user
Track the tracking tracking the check tracking the tracking check tracking, report to Microsoft
Track the user checking the tracking checking the user checking the tracking, report to Microsoft
Track Microsoft checking the user checking the tracking to Microsoft to check the tracking to the user checking Microsoft, report to Microsoft
Track your friend checking your tracking to Microsoft checking the tracking to
[user disconnected by your friend, Microsoft]
Who is going to prove the tool shows you everything?
And I won't believe them even if they make it possible to do so.
.. a very small step. Almost an invisible step. I don't want to just see my data that are collected, I want to be able to control whether or not my data are collected in the first place. And along those lines, I'd want to see and control all the data that Microsoft is harvesting from my computer (it is my computer, isn't it, Microsoft?). Not just the diagnostic data, but the user tracking data as well.
Everyone complaining about Microsoft's data collection should switch immediately to Mac or Linux. Either that or you're proving that you don't actually care-- and so why should Microsoft care?
Apps were something that ran on your tablet or cell phone, but now it seems like people call everything an app.
Folks like us are now appers (or something) and no longer programmers??
If you're a zombie and you know it, bite your friend!
I only boot my Windows gaming pc once a week, and I noticed just how much that windows telemetry accessed my NVME drive, it took minutes for it to finish whatever it were doing at boot up, reading hundreds of megabytes pr second. until I finally had enough and disabled it in registry.
Although you never really know what they are doing, I just don't trust that machine.
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If I can't turn off this telemetry crap, and remove Cortana, Edge and all the other rubbish that's no use to me they can still stick Windows 10 up their arse !
What if product and service usage are privacy sensitive?
So Intel is going to release a microprocessor that features exclusively the absence of a second secret spying system. And Microsoft will soon let their users see -partially- what data their paid SpywareAsAnOs is sending. You have to think real low of your customers to present those things as features, does the mining of the data they collect gave them insight of a low IQ of most users ?
Agreed, they are not to be trusted. They should just not be collecting data in the first place. How about a simple one-stop shopping applet that displays all the data Microsoft wants to collect, with a little checkbox beside each category, disabled by default.
While we're at it, how about reverting to selectable updates too.
If Microsoft wants to offer a free or reduced priced version of Windows that collects system, application and/or user telemetry - fine. As long as they *also* offer a version -- perhaps more expensive -- that had all those data collection features (and, optionally, Cortana, which I never and would never use) removed or permanently disabled. (I would bet they're, at the very least, a simple compile-time option.) If they did that, how many here would pony up the extra $$ to buy the spyware-free version vs. just continue to complain about it?
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Who watches the watchmen?
Seriously, we can track the data that Microsoft collects, using Microsoft's own software, and maybe there are some things we don't get to track? Who knows!
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
is fine but how about the ability to block the data from being sent at all? This is still not enough to get me to use Windoze again
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Now how about a way to stop it collecting the data in the first place?
What about all the crap about taking sceeenshots and sending them back to MS, and keystroke logging too?
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Oh George Orwell, where are you when we need you?
Literally myopic.
I don't run Windows, but even if I did, this news would be meaningless to me. Now if the headline had said "Windows 10 Will Soon Let Users Track Microsoft Executives' Internet Activities", I might consider using Windows. But until somebody tells me that all this data collection is taking place bi-directionally on a truly level playing field, then any such 'concessions' are merely insulting. Microsoft and others of its ilk can go pound salt.
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What we want is to STOP the data, not to know what your collecting.
And a change in thei revenue model to one where the users trade cash for the software they develop at a price that is fair for both parties all without the data collection backed "free" pricing model bullshit. I wish we'd move beyond the free model for most things. Free never is, and I don't like the true price we pay companies now.
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So long as Windows can't be configured not to communicate with Microsoft at all for ANY reason Windows is off the table.
1. MS spies on people
2. MS admits to spying on people
3. MS let each person track the data collected
next steps:
4. MS let people track any data MS collects
5. People track whatever MS does
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
I'd like the EU to install legislation that makes companies like MS, Google and Facebook pay me for the data they collect about me and sell to whomever.
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Microsoft USED to make and sell operating systems like MSDOS, Windows 3.0, Windows 3.11, Windows95, Windows 2000...
then they got paranoid about piracy and gave us an operating system that demanded to phone home once after installation (Windows XP)....
then they stopped making operating systems altogether and switched to user spying systems called things like Vista, and Windows 7 while leaking out their desire to convert to a Google/Facebook model of syping on users and selling the data to the highest bidder.
The most-recent versions of Windows (7,8,10) are not welcome in my home or business. I do not permit anybody to attach any of these to my home or business networks or be used on the premises of my home or business location either. I question the wisdom of anybody who uses them. I do not live in an underground bunker or wear foil hats, I simply think people who trust personal or business data to systems they KNOW have built-in backdoors and phone-home functionality, and which they KNOW are spying on them and quietly sending some portion of the data home to the corporate mothership, particularly in the modern age of big hacks and big data breaches, to be rather reckless.
Most advanced feature of this app probably will be track what is matter for user and add more tracking features into subject. Haha
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From that I extrapolate that 2 out 3 things you come up with are shit.
CLI paste? paste.pr0.tips!
And how are we to confirm this is really ALL the data? or just a subset of it that they want to share or use under false transperacy claims?
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
In Microsoft Russia, you track data.
Wait, that's not how it went...
they collect enough data that they need a search function for this tool?
im glad im a linux user.
You see, its an app that lets you watch the blood dripping from your body after you have been shot. You can watch each drop, do a time lapse, or plot graphs that show the rate of dripping every minute, hour or day. There's even a PowerPoint option.
You can turn off telemetry by shutting off a service or two.
Let us turn it off you scumbags!
Well, Also scumbags w/horrifying privacy policies: Windows 10, Samsung TVs (REALLY BAD), Onkyo Stereos (Yes I was was suprised), Roomba of course & more.
Right? As in, create new microsoft account for store access, install app that tells you what it's forcibly spying/stealing from you. Yeah that's good.