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Female Uber Drivers Get Paid Less Than Men, Says Study (recode.net)
According to a new study by Uber and Stanford economists, male Uber drivers get paid 7 percent more than their female counterparts in the U.S. "That's surprising, because Uber's driver assignments and pay are gender-blind, meaning a driver's gender isn't considered when matching riders or assigning fares," reports Recode. "Rather, pay has to do with trip length, distance and whether it's happening during surge-price hours or not." From the report: There are more male drivers -- women make up 27 percent of Uber drivers in the U.S. -- and male drivers tend to work longer hours. However, on an hourly rate, women still make less, according to the data, which measured trips by 1.8 million drivers from 2015 to 2017. According to the study, discrimination on the customer side isn't the reason for the pay gap, either. So why are female Uber drivers paid less than men? The study points to three reasons that make the gap disappear:
When and where: The times and places female Uber drivers work seem to be less profitable. That could be fewer overnight shifts, shifts with shorter wait times or surge-price shifts than men.
Driver experience: Drivers who've been with Uber longer get paid more, on account of knowing which routes and times tend to pay more. In general, men work for Uber longer than women so they are more experienced. The attrition rate after six months is 77 percent for women and 65 percent for men.
Speed: Male Uber drivers conduct more trips per hour than women, meaning they're actually driving faster, according to the data. More trips mean more money. About 50 percent of the earnings gap is explained away by differences in driving speed.
When and where: The times and places female Uber drivers work seem to be less profitable. That could be fewer overnight shifts, shifts with shorter wait times or surge-price shifts than men.
Driver experience: Drivers who've been with Uber longer get paid more, on account of knowing which routes and times tend to pay more. In general, men work for Uber longer than women so they are more experienced. The attrition rate after six months is 77 percent for women and 65 percent for men.
Speed: Male Uber drivers conduct more trips per hour than women, meaning they're actually driving faster, according to the data. More trips mean more money. About 50 percent of the earnings gap is explained away by differences in driving speed.
Turns out the wage gap really is simply because of personal choices.
Just because you disagree doesn't mean it's not true.
About 50 percent of the earnings gap is explained away by differences in driving speed.
In general, men work for Uber longer than women so they are more experienced.
Simple biology.
But no, we'll be told that this is proof of unfair compensation practices by Uber and they should change their algorithms to compensate or force men not to speed by monitoring their GPS while driving.
Alternate headline: Data Proves Male Uber Drivers Should Have Their Licenses Revoked
But besides not being able to afford me, the passengers would need a diaper.
The Stig
If you do the same analysis in the workplace you come up with no gender pay gap as well.
Good info though for why no equal pay laws are needed.
Wow, it turns out women and men are different. Are we on the verge of finding a way to tell a man from a woman?
So in a completely gender blind pay scheme, women still manage to make less then men?
Can all of you please shut the fuck up about the pay gap now?
It's clear that any remaining difference is caused by women themselves.
Glancing quickly at the headline, "Even female Uber drivers get paid less", one may get the impression that women drivers are discriminated against. The article could have gone with "Even female Uber drivers earn less than male drivers", but that phrase doesn't carry the same biting edge, does it..
Equal opportunity does not guarantee equal results.
Unequal results does not necessarily mean there's a bias.
Make one girl dollar equal to 1/.78 of a man dollar. That'll even things out.
Holy crap, people, I'm kidding!
Do you have ESP?
Female Uber Drivers EARN Less Than Men, Says Study
Too many lobsters.
I knew that. You knew that. But somewhere out on the internets an army of SJWs are about to crown you their emperor.
Apparently not, given the number of people here who don't believe in gender dysphoria. That would require acknowledging that there are more than the obvious physical differences between men and women.
Ever watch a lot of Football? European or the American variety... it plays the same. I give you, the the makeup call. Sometimes, official calls are muffed due to the inherent imperfections of the human referees. When the call is appreciably unfair, the human refs remember and there's a makeup call a comin'. You'll also see this when one team's player maliciously fouls an opponent and stands over him briefly in impolite, rather demeaning, celebration.
The women, finally, are getting their makeup call. As long as the window of advantage is limited fairly, I'm cool with it. Just remember, like the player who lingers over his vanquished opponent a smidge too long, there is a shelf life before it begins to stink.
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"The real question is, how are we going to fix this problem?"
There you go assuming there is a problem. Nothing here demonstrates a problem that needs any fixing.
There are all sorts of things where group X is different than group Y but that does not mean there is a problem.
Men on average have greater muscle power, can lift more weight than women, but that does not mean that women are discriminated against. It is just biology.
Women on average have less heart attacks and live longer than men, but that does not mean that men are being discriminated against. It is just biology (for the most part). When women stop producing as much female hormones they begin catching up with the men who stop producing as much male hormones which is really much of the issue. Not really an injustice problem that needs "fixing" by PCers.
accepting less desirable routes shouldn't earn you more. This is how men earn more in general by staying on the job for more years and working more hours a week.
It's an artifact of cultural influence, and it is not news. Insurance companies have known this for decades.
That's easy, #KILLALLMEN
Waiting for some mouth-breathing drool-fountain to start claiming gender wage gap and sexism.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
Female Uber Drivers Get Paid Less Than Men - Mostly Because They Drive Slower
Men drive faster and get more fares in over the same timeframe, making roughly 3.5% more cash. (The other 3.5% is postulated to be a combination of more work experience due to higher female job attrition, and women working at less profitable times.)
It has nothing to do with a battle of the sexes going on - no matter how inflammatory it can be for some to speculate about.
Equality does not mean "equal outcomes", it means "equal opportunities". Results should never be taken as confirmation of bias, but rather as a starting point to ask "Why?".
This situation is a great bite-sized example of the wage gap, which itself is explained largely through personal choice.
Mod me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
Or pick up random drunk men when the bars close.
I don't blame them.
I don't doubt that female and male Uber drivers might have different driving profiles. That's fine, but when I drove for Uber (briefly) that was how you made money in my area - ferrying drunks to and from bars. Otherwise it meant waiting a while between trips, sometimes quite a long time. Uber was new here at the time and demand during more reasonable times of day has certainly increased, but I'd guess 9pm - 2:30am is probably still the peak time anywhere there is a bar scene, at least.
If you don't want to drive at peak times, that's perfectly acceptable, but the days of the week and times of day need to be factored into any statistical analysis before drawing any conclusions about gender inequity with a company that allows workers to choose when, where and largely how they work. I'm not trying to be contrary or sexist at all, just hoping for good science and statistics.
This is a hacked account, for which the owner can not be held responsible.
Just because it's true in this situation, doesn't make it true in others.
There was a farmer had a dog...
Of course we'll never convince sexists that this does not negate an unjustified gender gap in many other areas.
This is a hacked account, for which the owner can not be held responsible.
Do you really care about this sort of trivia?
I really don't care about this sort of trivia. I hate that, much as spam drowns out the email you want to get, the blathering from the Rust community seems intent on making me have to care by flooding out the useful things with their social justice coding PR.
Hire a Linux system administrator, systems engineer,
Good to see honest statistics about the pay gap.
Interestingly there is an 800% prison gap. That is there are 9 times more men in prison than women. And when convicted of the same crime, men are sentenced 60% longer.
This is proof that those who scream for "equality" between the sexes don't actually care about it. If they did, they would look for equality where it matters most - the courtroom.
They get payed the same, but choose to work less...
Obviously to solve this inequality problem, women should be required to wear shock collars, that shock them if they're not working the same hours as men. We need to solve this inequality problem - to help women!
There is actually a problem there, if I get a Uber driver at those times he will tell me he has been driving for 10-12 hours.
It does matter.
I won't risk the future of my business (and those who rely on me to pay their bills and feed their families) on decisions made by illogical and deeply emotionally unstable people.
The code might be great until they get pissy and do something stupid like kick out a great contributor because his private consensual sexual activities don't align with the politically correct safe space sensitivities of some other developers.
But that could never happen, right?
Who are these sexists that support an unjustified gender gap?
Most of us are wandering around trying to see where the fuck this supposed gender gap actually is.
This illustrates quite clearly that one can't measure performance unless it's quantifiable. The blanket statement that women make less than men because of sexism isn't quantifiable. Performance on jobs like driving for Uber or producing physical products is easy to measure. How many widgets did you make? How many miles did you drive? Most jobs aren't like that. Two graphic artists can't be measured against each other regardless of the gender of the artist because they don't work on the same project and with the same team of marketing flakes. Some team members may be more demanding than others and some projects may be more complex than others. Ergo, you have to resort to more subjective means to evaluate performance.
FORCE WOMEN TO WORK EQUALLY...
I mean, my ex-wife is taking $2,000/month. By choosing to work part-time, she gains herself more free money.
No more stay at home moms, make them work.
Or the fact, that even when a father receives primary custody, or makes less than the mother. Mothers are often assigned lower child support payments for equivalent wages. Furthermore, mother's are less likely to pay their support obligations than fathers.
It's a really good example of a wage gap with a good breakdown of how that gap occurs. What you make of that is another discussion, but at least there is now some robust data to fuel that discussion.
It's fairly obvious that people fighting for these kinds of issues are focused on some specific group or another. It's beside the point to get uptight because they might use the word "equality". That reduces it to some petty argument over semantics when I think we can mostly all admit that each of us is focused on helping ourselves and whatever groups we identify with. The important issues are the ones that highlight a genuine inequality, and the sentencing and incarceration rates for men are a genuine inequality. That isn't going to get addressed by heckling feminists and complaining that they're not universally addressing every possible instance of gender inequality in the world. If you think something should be done, get on it yourself. It's taken women 100s of years of activism to get to where they are today, it's not necessarily going to be any easier for men to get the same results.
there are already apps for that, it's just that you don't get to ride in a car