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Twitch To Ban Users For 'Hate' on Other Platforms (bbc.com)

Twitch has updated its guidelines so that abuse taking place on other platforms can contribute to a suspension on the streaming site. From a report: Directing "hate or harassment" towards someone on Twitch using other services will be considered a policy violation. Conduct Twitch deems "hateful" on any platform will result in an "immediate indefinite suspension." Sexual conduct rules have also been changed to consider the "context" of a stream. Moderators will pay attention to clothing, the title of a stream, camera angles and chat moderation when deciding whether something is sexually inappropriate.

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  1. Good idea by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    This should cut down on the instances of female gamers with suspiciously low cut tops and suspiciously high camera angles.

    1. Re:Good idea by RedK · · Score: 2

      This should cut down on the instances of female gamers with suspiciously low cut tops and suspiciously high camera angles.

      Yeah, stop showing those heels off! You'll make yourself unfit to marry!

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      "Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
      Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
    2. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I once posted here that I thought windows was a fine OS for desktop computing and twitch banned me

    3. Re:Good idea by Woldscum · · Score: 1

      Will not do damned thing. If Twitch wanted to stop it. They only need to ban cleavage and muscle/spaghetti strap shirts. For both males and females. Problem would be solved. But they want the Boob streams on Twitch. Think Corporate work casual Friday.

    4. Re:Good idea by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Funny

      No one in 2018 uses sexuality for personal gain. That would be exploitation and no modern company would support exploitation of their customers and content creators.

    5. Re:Good idea by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      It is about getting the Riff-Raff out. So they can get serious investors money in it.

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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    6. Re: Good idea by c6gunner · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It was only a matter of time until democrats ended up pursuing their own version of McCarthyism.

    7. Re:Good idea by Thruen · · Score: 1

      You have been a comment hero lately, good sir. Thanks for your contributions! You'd get all my mod points if I had any.

    8. Re: Good idea by Train0987 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      The best thing Trump has ever done is exposing the tyranny of the Left.

    9. Re: Good idea by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, that's changing. Look at marriage rates and even sex rates in the newer generations.

    10. Re:Good idea by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Twitch is popular with the kids, whose parents get them the subscriptions... So they want to different themselves from camgirl sites.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    11. Re:Good idea by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      Cleveland has nothing to do with cleavage

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    12. Re:Good idea by nnet · · Score: 1

      Of course he does.

    13. Re: Good idea by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Killing off both the Clinton and the Bush dynasty was a real and positive accomplishment, too.

    14. Re:Good idea by Cederic · · Score: 1

      I find it dishonest. Just take your fucking bra off and stream on a porn service.

      Leave games to people that actually like them. I hate twitch streams that include video of the person playing the game because I'm there to see the fucking game, not the person playing it, whatever gender they are.

    15. Re:Good idea by Cederic · · Score: 1

      The financial services company I recently worked at had people wearing spaghetti straps on Fridays.

      Some of the girls, too.

  2. Re:Consistency? by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    Twich, not Twitter. You are my brother, but you need to learn to read the headline!

  3. Re:Consistency? by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    If insulting a world leaders was seen as a violation of this policy, pretty much anyone who posts about politics would be muted.

  4. Re:Consistency? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2

    Son of a.

    Yep. I was wrong. Apparently I can't even read TFH these days.

    Nothing else. I was wrong.

  5. Re:Consistency? by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    It is OK. Soon AI will take over the world and all of your problems will disappear.

  6. Benevolent Overloards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Good thing there's no disagreement on the internet what the definition of hate speech is and the benevolent overloads over at twitch will adhere to the strict definition and show no cultural or PC bias in how they dole out justice.

    Another platform about to be ruined by PC hysteria.

    1. Re:Benevolent Overloards by Z80a · · Score: 1

      And then you get banned from twitch anyway.
      To not mention that this could slip down to stuff like "hate speech against corporations", such as telling how your phone exploded on your face, or sent all your personal data to some advertising company.

  7. Wikipedia does the same thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They have their own BADSITES policy meaning if you talk bad about the power hungry admins on another site they will ban you.

    1. Re:Wikipedia does the same thing by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      This is known as "taking responsibility for your actions".

      Yes if you act like an utter arse in one pub, people who know you're an utter arse aren't going to magically treat you as a new person when you try another pub. The same applies online and I'm honestly surprised to find that people seem to think otherwise.

      You have a right to free speech, yu don't have a right to insist that people forget what you said and treat you as if you haven't said it.

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    2. Re:Wikipedia does the same thing by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

      How would they know, assuming you're not stupid enough to use the same username on another site?

    3. Re:Wikipedia does the same thing by Cederic · · Score: 2

      If I act like an utter arse at the pub my employer doesn't sack me.
      If I act like an utter arse in the office, my friends still go to the pub with me.

      I'm still the same person, I look the same, I use the same name. My behaviour is differentiated by where I am and the context.

      If I call you a cunt on Slashdot it's because I feel you've been acting like a cunt and Slashdot (mostly) doesn't censor its users language. Why the fuck should that get me banned from Twitch?

    4. Re:Wikipedia does the same thing by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      If I act like an utter arse at the pub my employer doesn't sack me.

      I don't think the conversation is about being denied employment, merely access to social spaces on the basis of behavior in other social spaces. Most social spaces have some degree of gatekeeping taking place, and it's not unknown for pubs to ban people on the basis of extreme "acting like an utter arse" in other pubs.

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      You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
  8. Game Experience May Change During Online Play by bigmacx · · Score: 5, Funny

    We really, really shouldn't shed light on the world of text chat and voip in online gaming.

    All you're gonna find is a toxic anti-world where we act in ways we're nothing like in RL and there's a periodic appearance of a squeaker using a surprisingly well-versed foul mouth completely inappropriate for their level of life-experience. I always ask them to put their hot single mom on the headset.

    Squeakers, the Easter Eggs of online gaming.

    1. Re:Game Experience May Change During Online Play by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      A lot of channels have their own moderators, and add generally quite civil and fun. Check out streamers like Grand Poo Bear and Barbarian, for example.

      YouTube style cesspools are not inevitable it seems. Oh, and the mods are fans working for free, like many forums.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    2. Re:Game Experience May Change During Online Play by bigmacx · · Score: 1

      Put your hot single mom on the Slashdot

    3. Re:Game Experience May Change During Online Play by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      "Warning: this stream may include language you heard on the bus as a kindergartner."

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      -Styopa
    4. Re:Game Experience May Change During Online Play by Cederic · · Score: 1

      I do swear in front of friends' children, but since some people think their precious little darlings must be protected from all that is evil my twitch stream is marked as 'adult' - purely and entirely because if you listen to me playing computer games, you will hear the full range of anglo-saxon and occasional French and German.

  9. Anything can be sexualized by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Some people would be more turned on by seeing a bare foot than a full nude wearing socks. Good luck determining what is sexual content. Also hope no one streams the Witcher or Mass Effect series. A whole lot of boning goes on in those games.

    1. Re:Anything can be sexualized by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      Sexual content is whatever they say it is. Muslim thinks any woman showing more than eyes is displaying sexual content. This TOS is just an excuse to ban anyone or anything and have something to point to when they're sued.

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    2. Re:Anything can be sexualized by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      Some people would be more turned on by seeing a bare foot than a full nude wearing socks.

      How is this even a thing? How do these "want to have sex with a foot" genes get passed on?

      Probably same way as the "want to have sex with same sex" or "I want my sexual organs cut off" gene

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      my karma will be here long after I'm gone
  10. Re:Consistency? by darkain · · Score: 1

    Admittedly, I read it wrong too... And was wondering why they were talking about streamers on Twitter. Which I think is even worse, since I use Twitch more than Twitter.

  11. Since Every Tech Company Is Doing This by Kneo24 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sometime soon in the near future, everyone will be banned from everything for something they did that one time, that ultimately, no one gives a shit about.

    1. Re:Since Every Tech Company Is Doing This by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I used to read about Victorian culture and boggle at how closeted and demanding it was, how rigid facades were required to get anywhere in life and wonder how the fuck a society could ever get that way.

      Yeah, I don't wonder about that shit anymore...

      When the new counter-culture hits (as it must) it's going to make the 60s look sedate.

    2. Re:Since Every Tech Company Is Doing This by Cederic · · Score: 2

      I used to read about Victorian culture and boggle at how closeted and demanding it was, how rigid facades were required to get anywhere in life and wonder how the fuck a society could ever get that way.

      Mainly through constant and (this is the important bit) socially acceptable hypocrisy. e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      There's still a fair amount of book form Victorian erotica around - mostly involving spanking and other forms of chastisement. Or maybe that's just a subset I encountered.

  12. Re:THOUGHT EXPERIMENT by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    Farmville 2 on an old Windows Vista PC. He would arrange the crops to draw Stormy Daniels' boobs.

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    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
  13. Re: Consistency? by omnichad · · Score: 1

    Well...maybe Twitter will decide to look at their users' activities on Twitch to decide whether to ban them.

  14. Re:THOUGHT EXPERIMENT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's obvious you've got a hard-on for Trump's side boob as much you rant and rave all day.
    The things you hate the most are really the things you love the most aren't they?

  15. Re:THOUGHT EXPERIMENT by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's obvious you've got a hard-on for Trump's side boob

    You mean Pence?

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    You are welcome on my lawn.
  16. They just HATE it when people do that !! by micahraleigh · · Score: 2

    Whoops ... an institutionalized double-standard.

  17. Re:Funny by omnichad · · Score: 1

    They're not being removed from Twitch for sexual assault. You're really oversimplifying things here.

  18. Re:Funny by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    Ok, the rules are very simple.
    1. You don't assault women.

    If a woman is dressing inappropriately that can be called out, however it isn't an excuse to assault women.

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    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  19. Speech != Hate by bryanandaimee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This would be less troublesome if Hate had not become synonymous with

    Conservative opinion
    Religious opinion
    Liberal opinion
    Biology
    Logic
    Statistics
    Independent thought

    The only thing you can say these days that is not considered hate speech is up-to-the-nanosecond left wing (not liberal) PC group-speak.

    1. Re:Speech != Hate by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

      The subjectiveness of hate is not a bug, it is a feature.

    2. Re:Speech != Hate by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      For those in power, sure.

      But the entire concept of hate speech was to help the powerless.

    3. Re:Speech != Hate by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

      The entire concept of hate speech was to be a tool for the powerful to control speech.

  20. Re:Funny by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If a woman is dressing inappropriately that can be called out

    No, it can't. Watch out, or you'll be sent to the SJW reeducation camp..

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    Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
  21. Yeah. Fuck that noise. by Chas · · Score: 1

    Sorry. I don't need Twitch, or anyone else Big Mother'ing me on every platform I happen to use.

    Additionally, I'm not going to subscribe to a moving target like the chimera that is "Hate".

    No.

    If that means I don't use their shit, I don't use their shit. Fuck them.

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    Chas - The one, the only.
    THANK GOD!!!
  22. Re:THOUGHT EXPERIMENT by lgw · · Score: 1

    Well played, sir.

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    Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
  23. Re: Funny by c6gunner · · Score: 1

    So you can assault men?

    Your rules suck.

  24. PC Police round 2 by torkus · · Score: 2

    Welcome to the PC Police folks. Now anything "bad" you say, think, do, display, endorse, allow, don't challenge, or otherwise are in any associated with is reason to hang you out to dry everywhere forever in a fit of righteousness.

    Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain who decides what and when something is bad with very little 'why' involved. Oh crap...I mean person of unknown gender located in a region generally near an item of environmentally friendly, non-GMO, vegan cloth-like covering which may or may not be protecting their privacy or identity as it best suits them.

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    1. Re:PC Police round 2 by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The slippery slope is an easily debunked logical fallacy.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    2. Re:PC Police round 2 by bryanandaimee · · Score: 1

      It's not a slippery slope argument if you are talking about current conditions.

    3. Re:PC Police round 2 by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      True, that's a delusional argument.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
  25. Frosty Piss by negRo_slim · · Score: 2

    Censorship is terrible. To think otherwise is baffling, what went so wrong to encourage your kind of mind set?

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    1. Re:Frosty Piss by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Censorship is terrible. To think otherwise is baffling, what went so wrong to encourage your kind of mind set?

      Censorship is terrible. However, not providing people with a free platform is not censorship.

      There is no censorship here. Twitch doesn't want them, but they have plenty of other places to go including ponying up a tiny amount of cash and hosting it themselves.

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
  26. Dangerous precedent by edgedmurasame · · Score: 1

    They want to invite a bit of Orwell by going beyond platform conduct.

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    "Forget the engineers." -Carly Fiorina, briber of MIT Technology Review.
  27. Re:Funny by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    If it's wrong for SJWs to criticise slut shaming, why is it okay for you to criticise criticism of slut shaming?

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    const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
    SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
  28. Re:Funny by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

    Because SJWs don't exist. It's the same reason why it's not OK to make movies where hoards of black people/women/French people/etc attack and are gunned down, but it's OK to have zombies in that role.

    SJWs are more or less a figment of the average alt-righter's imagination. That's why they call people SJWs and then describe things SJWs supposedly do that the people they called SJWs would never do in a million years. Being fictional beings, it's absolutely fine to treat them as the enemy and attack them. It's just a shame people who do keep mixing them up with, you know, ordinary people who believe women should be treated as human beings, and black people probably shouldn't be killed for reaching for their driver's licenses.

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    You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
  29. Re:Funny by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    So, you're accusing the 'average alt-righter' of generalizing about the people they disagree with and promulgating stereotypes about them.

    Huh.

  30. Re:Funny by epyT-R · · Score: 1

    That depends on which feminist you ask.

  31. Re:What the Hell is "TWITCH"??? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    Twitch is where dorks go to watch other play video games.

    Yeah. People actually do that, for some reason.

  32. it's their platform etc etc by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

    All hail private property - Big Corporate Brother we love you - MOAR CENSORSHIP NOW!!!!!!

  33. Re:Funny by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    I've noticed that a lot of conservatives get labelled as SJWs now. It really is a completely meaningless phrase.

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    const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
    SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
  34. Re:Funny by Cederic · · Score: 1

    So if you stare at the harassing article, whose harassment wins the case? Or is the company fucked on both fronts?

  35. Re:"Content & context" by Cederic · · Score: 1

    People can get turned on by fucking door knobs.

    Is a door knob still a door knob if it's not on a door? Just that if it's on the door there are some logistical challenges here.