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Sweden Considers Six Years in Jail For Online Pirates (torrentfreak.com)
Sweden's Minister for Justice has received recommendations as to how the country should punish online pirates. From a report: Helene Fritzon received a proposal which would create crimes of gross infringement under both copyright and trademark law, leading to sentences of up to six years in prison. The changes would also ensure that non-physical property, such as domain names, can be seized.
.... for those that falsely claim copyright infringement on stuff that they don’t own copyright on to begin with?
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Why not just make them do community service instead? I don't think it's really in the interest of the taxpayers to spend tens of thousands of dollars (or Swedish Krona I suppose) to lock up non-violent individuals who are committing what would be best regarded as civil offenses.
In neighboring Norway you can get less time in prison for first degree murder.
It seems a bit harsh.
Than consuming content from the big distributors... They wont be missing much in jail. :P
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Why do I think this is mostly aimed at stopping the Pirate party. Life in prison in Sweden is 10 year, And proposed for piracy is 6? That sounds pretty political.
Also, It's not like Sweden would use politics, for let's say, to go after a person so they could try to extradite him to the US for leaking documents. /s
Mean-while Afghan men can murder people in Sweden and get a punishment of less than 2 years of prison.
That's because among the adults of Afghans hardly anyone got the right of asylum so they lie and claim they are children. And while applying for asylum it's kinda ok to lie and the Migration office may believe them.
But then when they actually do kill someone else then it become up to the court to show that they are adults and good luck with that since you don't even know who the fuck they are in the first place.
And since Sweden don't have the same sentences for actual youth (and even less for people below 15 years old) as for adults they get a very low punishment.
https://petterssonsblogg.se/20...
"16" years now, supposedly "15" then.
So less than two years for knife murder.
Up to six years for breaking copyright.
Make sense. The idiots in charge and those who want to keep all the afghans for instance claim we must have rule of law as far as immigration and peopleÂs behavior in response to criminality goes. But it's of course only valid when it benefit the invaders and destroy the life of Swedes. But the system definitely isn't fair or just and we don't have equality against the law in Sweden because the immigrants can do whatever the fuck they want since they can just claim to not be responsibility because they are children whereas actual Swedes can't even if they behaved like the filth coming here which by itself would be very unlikely. So far.
I was trying to find Swedish sentencing guidelines for rape. The maximum seems to be either 4 years or 10 years, with actual time served possibly as low as 16 months. I may be wrong, but it seems this recommendation for this non-physical crime makes it worse than rape in the eyes of the law.
Don't you get television, movies, video games, et cetera in Swedish prison? So if you pirate those things and get caught you'll wind up getting them all paid for by the state? Along with room and board? Am I missing something here?
Sweden is generally pretty lenient on crime. Unless you do something which offends, Muslims, LGBT, or the honer of a woman. Such as not getting written permission everytime you want sex. Or not having a corporate board with a certain percentage of females no matter how unqualified they are. Then they'll come down on you like a ton of bricks.
Just because he holed hisself up in a foreign consulate closet. Fuck Sweden and then moose they rided in on.
No wonder that country's turned into a gigantic sh*thole in few decades. They have so many terrorism incidents there that their newspapers have to hide it in back pages. This is what happens when leftists run your country.
RIP Sweden.
Housing some for six years for a twenty dollar video? Really. How about a good beating in public?
I'm sure you're very familiar with Swedish law and the outcomes of their court cases. You're totally not another dumb right wing reactionary.
I'm surprised you didn't start ranting about gangs of muslims enforcing Sharia law and public beheadings. Shouldn't you be watching a Jordan Peterson video or something?
Maybe we should punish the heads of corporations for minor civil violations like they seem to want to the proletariat.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
ninjas never get caught...just blame it all on pirates. and Jebus.
... the sentences imposed on pirates for similar crimes range from four years to life in prison. The average sentence globally is 16 years ...
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Shut up, Amimojo. Nobody likes you.
Forget The Pirate Bay. We need a new torrent site: BLACK LGBT MUSLIM BAY. Untouchable. Unquestionable. That or JEW BAY.
Helene Fritzon received a proposal which would create crimes of gross infringement under both copyright and trademark law, leading to sentences of up to six years in prison.
You can get a lot of political contributions from copyright holders; hardly any from murderers.
~Loyal
I aim to misbehave.
Considering life sentence in Sweden is 10 years, seems kind of disproportionate.
Is the United States' bitch.
Isn't an afghan a rug, or a carpet, or a drape or something. I assume dark colored so the carpet and drapes match. But then the drapes and carpet are all covered, so maybe not?
What exactly would you like changed? Would you like Sweden to stop accepting refugees? Do you have some way to stop adult migrants from successfully claiming a younger age? Should there be stricter sentences for refugee minors vs native-born minors?
Yes. In extreme cases, maybe some women and children can temporarily stay in specific areas. Full grown men with beards that are pretending to be children should be sent back and that's currently the vast majority of the "refugees." They most definitely should not be given even more benefits than people that have been contributing to the Swedish system for their entire lives.
Send in a non-violent offender, get back a hardened criminal six years later.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
That's midway to Sharia Law.
all the afghans
Why?
Sometimes it is the best solution.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one.
I agree. The system in Sweden is idiotic. It needs to quickly close this loophole, and especially since it takes several weeks to get the medical results back on determining one's age, Sweden needs to promptly fly back anyone who lied about their age directly to their home country (to at least make an example of them).
That being said, I'm not sure if this blog you linked to is true. And if true, I'm not too concerned about Ahmad only doing two years. He only killed another guy who had previously raped him (assuming the story is true and assuming Google translate translated the blog post accurately). I don't think he should be put in prison for 12 years for that. And the other guy he killed was also technically 17 years old (but that too is probably a fabrication because everyone else thought that he was an adult too).
Women and children can get help, the Muslim men can go back and fight for their country. It's not reasonable to ask us to pay for tons of refugees every time the US and Israel decides to destabilize another country. It should be the dumbass Americans and Israelis paying for all of it since they caused the problem.
So, how DO we help the Swedes escape the terrible situation their government and the EU globalist masters are forcing upon them?
Do you seriously think turning away all refugees would benefit more humans than it would harm? Or do only native born Europeans count?
Another nation the net needs to route around.
Prison time and the risk of extradition? Who wants to risk Sweden digitally?
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
> Women and children can get help, the Muslim men can go back and fight for their country
But we already know that some refugee men will claim to be children. Do you have a way to allow children but not men? Like is there a certain rate of facial hair growth that you'd like as a cutoff?
You know those "you have to be this tall to get on the ride" signs at amusement parks? I do it like that. We might let in a few manlets but they're relatively harmless and would eventually be weeded out by their crippling insecurity.
That may be the main reason for massive importation of unassimilatable peoples. Drive crime up, destroys community cohesion(documented in a major study by a left winger who didn't want to release it; go find it). Then the rulers are free to implement totalitarian polices as they are.
When your worried about who your neighbors are, your less likely to look at what your leaders are actually doing.
This is a war on freedom itself to secure power for the few. ...
6 years in prison for copyright? How easy is it to put that on anyones computer and get them jailed? Easy
Remember when copyright was a civil/economic matter? That's what it should be today at most. It is essentially theft of ideas not material.
I wonder how many years prison Sweden assigns Muzzi-wogs who rape white women ? Gotta guess par're ?
Unfortunately, it is, and Trump isn't making things better.
If only Russia hadn't installed him, we would have Hillary, and things would be A-OK.
Do you seriously think turning away all refugees would benefit more humans than it would harm?
Long term - quite possibly. Depending how well the refugee population integrates, depending how well the existing residents sort out their own prejudices, depending how many more refugees get dumped in without any thought or planning.
It's entirely feasible that yes turning away all refugees could benefit more humans than it would harm. Europe is a big place after all, with quite a lot of people...
Or do only native born Europeans count?
Irrelevant dog whistle, but thanks for playing.
The thing is that there are different kinds of bad situations.
People who are actually running away from war and fear of death? Sure, give them a helping hand.
People who walk all the way up through Europe to get to the country with the best financial benefits available? Send them back where they came from. You do NOT call yourself a refugee after crossing through a handful of peaceful European countries just to get to where you wanted to go.
Sweden, unfortunately, is paralyzed with political correctness. Police officers that finally speak up about crime rates inflating out of control in muslim-heavy parts of the country are fired for subverting the public's faith in the authorities.
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So when a big company get caught stealing picture from photographer and use them in commercial ads, do Sweden put those company CEO in jail for six years too? Or this kind of law only apply to poor and middle class people?
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Considering this will make piracy of porn less harshly punished than aggravated rape, I think the message from the govt is clear.
Not stop accepting refugees, but stop accepting grown men who pretend to be children. If you arrive at the border without any documents, put them in jail until their identity can be proven. Refugees who commit serious crimes, i.e. robbery, rape, murder or other violent crimes should immediately have their stay revoked and returned. That would be a good start at least.
How many millions of refugees are there in the world? Do you even comprehend how big the problem of poverty is in this world? It would be impossible to move all these people to Europe/USA and expect that to be a sustainable solution. If anything, you should be advocating to help those who cannot reach Sweden, Norway, England or USA(only to name a few) because those who are still trapped in their home, war ridden countries, those are the real refugees! Those are the poorest people, the defenseless. Those who actually manage to get here can not be considered poor, if they were, they couldn't afford the trip, nor the false documents needed to travel.
It's incomprehensible to me, that this paradox has not occurred to you.
Basically the proposition raises the maximum punishment and divides it into 2 categories
1. If you download something at home for "private use", the punishment will be fines and possibly UP TO MAXIMUM 2 years of prison.
2. If you start a business where you make money of pirating content, you may go to prison 6 month UP TO MAXIMUM 6 years.
Original proposition + google translate. https://translate.google.com/t...
If you come back from fighting in Syria the Swedes'll fall over themselves to give you a new identity.
Provided you talk sufficiently funny and aren't as milky white as a native, of course.
Because Sweden has gone totally insane on the political correctness front. And if a muslim murders somebody, doing something against this muslim is racist, and xenowassname, and other things that the SJW-idiots usually scream about.
Sweden agreed to take people from other EU countries, as part of an EU plan to lessen the burden on those countries that are geographically close to the problem by distributing the refugees.
If the EU didn't try to do this then the frontier countries would just hand those people visas and tell them to leave for other EU countries anyway, and it would be chaotic and create huge problems. It's not been perfect but it's been far better than it would have been if they had done nothing.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I have my suspicions as to the real origins of such "recommendations" and I am not thinking of the Swedish police or civil service,
Such ideas could ultimately have come from some criminal organisation that is legal in its home country of "not Sweden". That organisation is well known for theft of copyright itself. It only steals from the people who actually create music so feels that doesn't count.
I'll see your Constitution and raise you a Queen.
What a surprise... Sweden has been totally destroyed by Jews and their endless lust for mass immigration of non-whites, and now more attacks on their 'goyim' for not paying the Jews for their bullshit 'media'...
people can get away with less for rape.
It's also paralysed by people not understanding the rules and getting angry about things they don't understand. You seem to be such a person.
Is there a link to this report?
is trying to bring into reality their deeply buried, unconscious and socially verbotten rape fantasies by pouring into their country millions of rapists hailing from the most rapey culture in human history.
Feminism is cancer.
The link leads to a racist/white supremacist propaganda site, and nothing on it should be trusted. And the comment itself reeks of uninformed/misinformed hate towards immigrants (probably from spending too much time on racist propaganda sites). To anyone considering upvoting this comment, please be aware that you are supporting white supremacist and racist propaganda when doing it.
Can't be arsed to deal with their refugee rapist problem though, can they?
2 years of prison for a civil case of copyright infringement. Awesome!
Sweden used to be a model country. Their copyright laws were reasonable, their views on intellectual property forward-thinking and liberal. But then Nobel Peace Prize Recipient President Barack Hussein Obama laid down the law.
Another law to toss them in prison.
All western mmmaalallleesss are ruled over by women.
(This is why child brides are illegal)
another fool talking sanctimoniously
Kill Michael Jackson: Two years in jail
Copy his songs: Six years in jail
I'm not sure if you meant to reply to my post or another one. But I was responding to someone who said they'd like Sweden to stop accepting refugees.
Stop using knowledge and logic, its not allowed. I can sell you 3 cans of mouth foam for the price of 2.
Diddums. Did you make up that story all by yourself? What a clever boy.
What is all this racist bullshit on this site all of a sudden?
Criminal 1: What are you in for?
Criminal 2: Murder, you?
Criminal 1: Rape, what about you over there?
Criminal 3: I sent my friend a Taylor Swift song
Oh, now I understand. The real problem is that the EU was founded on emotional responses to the tyranny that Europeans visit on each other whenever given half a chance and now you can't even give a refugee a sandwich* without the entire continent having to line up and suck his dick.
*That he immediately throws away because he would prefer something else.
And my point is that the 'refugee' descriptor has been muddied a lot in the last few years, with migrants, immigrants, refugees, anyone-not-natively-from-this-country being a 'refugee' (and 17 years old always, WTF happened 18 years ago to cause this baby boom?!) because of the legal protections that status grants.
The very first step to solving this problem is to clean up the definitions between refugees, migrants, immigrants, opportunists, etc.
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They most definitely should not be given even more benefits than people that have been contributing to the Swedish system for their entire lives.
Hey we have that blatant lie over here in Canada too. People generally throw in "Veteran's benefits" to really get people riled up.
So, someone from Syria who is demonstrably fleeing death and war, showing up in the UK should be sent back, because they happened to show up in the UK?
In the Netherlands the refugee procedures were often years long; this wasn't due to the refugees prolonging the procedure, it was due to the lawyers handling the application were paid per refugee, per month. So prolonging the procedure, meant more $$ for the lawyer handling the procedure. In some exceptional cases refugees were in limbo for 12 years. Unable to work, unable to develop themselves through education.
At the same time there were lots of dutch people who were actually misinformed and blamed the refugees for the huge expense of the cost of handling refugees, while all that time it was the incompetent bureaucracy and often greedy lawyers who were to blame.
The mountains of madness have many little plateaus of sanity - Terry Pratchett.
You used to be so enlightened.
Refugees are, by definition, persons who, "owing to well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country."
Note the lack of reference to poverty.
You might start with yourself.
There's a legal definition of refugee, and a broadly-signed treaty detailing any individual country's responsibilities, and thus far you've failed to show any indication of any country not following these.
The U.S., for instance, denies about 50% of asylum claims presented by people who HAVE immigration lawyers. Any guess how likely it is you get to stay without one?
So the Swedish xenophobes have found their way to Slashdot too. How about you take your race biology and go back to the 1930's?
Copyright Infringement is a victimless crime.
Example: A is copied and becomes A2.
Facts:
1) The owner of A still has A and A is the exactly the same as A before it was copied.
2) The owner of A may never know that A was copied. There is zero impact on A and its owner as a result of the copying.
The owner of A may claim that the person holding A2 would (with 100% certainty) have bought a legal copy of A if A2 wasn't available. This claim requires:
1) The holder of A2 would have legal access to buy A.
2) The holder of A2 would to able to afford A.
3) The holder of A2 wants to buy A if A2 wasn't available.
None of these three has ever been validated in court. Lots of piracy is about availability and cheaper alternatives, yet holders of A2 would be prosecuted even if A isn't available for legal purchase and/or is so expensive that it is impossible for the holder of A2 to afford A.
Final fact: The creation of A2 has not cost the owner of A anything in most cases, simply because almost no sale of A is replaced by getting A2 elsewhere.
"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) --
As a Syrian refugee in Sweden pointed out Greece cannot even take care of their own people let alone refugees and there is no work.
The Syrian refugee who says: 'Don't come to Sweden... or think carefully about it' - BBC Trending
That title is a bit tongue-in-cheek but he does say Syrians have unrealistic expectations of Sweden. Not that he's complaining.
Most people in "bad" countries have silly ideas about "good" countries. The poor here are pretty much assured existence and that's it. It's more than youre guaranteed most places but if you were successfully existing somewhere before and now you come to the US or Sweden or wherever expecting that now a reasonable income, friends, and a generally better life is assured, you'll be disappointed. Instead you might find that you live off welfare, in a bad part of town, have no friends and no idea how to meet any, and people only hire you to exploit your ignorance of local laws and customs. Surrounded by people who think you must feel so fortunate. Maybe you've been saved from starvation but now you'll die alone one day with a belly full dollar store groceries.