YouTube's New Moderators Mistakenly Pull Right-Wing Channels (bloomberg.com)
In December, said it would assign more than 10,000 people to moderate content in an attempt to curb its child exploitation problem. Today, Bloomberg reports that those new moderators mistakenly removed several videos and some channels from right-wing, pro-gun video producers and outlets in the midst of a nationwide debate on gun control. From the report: Some YouTube channels recently complained about their accounts being pulled entirely. On Wednesday, the Outline highlighted accounts, including Titus Frost, that were banned from the video site. Frost tweeted on Wednesday that a survivor of the shooting, David Hogg, is an actor. Jerome Corsi of right-wing conspiracy website Infowars said on Tuesday that YouTube had taken down one of his videos and disabled his live stream. Shutting entire channels would have marked a sweeping policy change for YouTube, which typically only removes channels in extreme circumstances and focuses most disciplinary action on specific videos. But YouTube said some content was taken down by mistake. The site didn't address specific cases and it's unclear if it meant to take action on the accounts of Frost and Corsi. "As we work to hire rapidly and ramp up our policy enforcement teams throughout 2018, newer members may misapply some of our policies resulting in mistaken removals," a YouTube spokeswoman wrote in an email. "We're continuing to enforce our existing policies regarding harmful and dangerous content, they have not changed. We'll reinstate any videos that were removed in error."
About pulling right-wing channels. Just mistaken about which ones.
YouTube certainly trademarked the hell out of that email.
Seriously, just goto no ip dot com, setup your own website, point it at a tiny 35 dollar raspberry pi, then stream YOUR videos to YOUR hearts content.
If you guys want to stop being the butt rape fun time of corporations then just stop being it. It is not hard, it is not expensive, and it is not difficult.
You just want to show off your silly shit to the world in a way the other sheeple are doing so that your a special snowflake like the other 10 trillion special snowflakes, just stop for gods sakes. Have dignity ownership and responsibility.
It boggles the mind just how absurd all of this is, people are utilizing these services to the point where they imagine using these things isn't just a right but a necessity.
I cannot even....jesus wept...fucking hell...
I can't possibly imagine how that happened!
Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.
However, this isn't the first time youtube has screwed up like this.
Why the hell are they allowing obviously untrained people the power to wipe out entire channels on a whim?
-- Will program for bandwidth
Mistakenly?
-- Cheers!
Aren't you late for a Bund meeting?
Well, you libturds still fail to read between the lines. When will you migrate to Canada as you pledged before Hillary lost?
promoting the conspiracy theory that the kids caught up in the last school shooting were "crisis actors" and that the shooting was a "false flag" (e.g. it never really happened).
Personally if I were Youtube I wouldn't want to be associated with those kind of nut jobs (if they believe it) or bastards (if they don't believe it and are just passing it around to get a rise out of the nut jobs). Remember kiddies, it's not censorship if the government didn't do it. You have a right to speak, you do not have a right to make google pay for your megaphone.
Meanwhile Youtube continue to de-rank left wing media in favor of corporate media (CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, etc).
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when Facebook, Twitter, etc creates a new policy to deal with troublesome speech. The first thing that happens is the Right is taken out big time ;)
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Then there is the oops, and the just a coincidence responses and over time some are brought back.
What a bogus hoot
just my 2 cents
At least say something about how Google is the new Microshaft. "Do no evil"--LOL!
They also banned the Moon Man videos as "hate speech." The time is ripe for someone to replace YouTube. Especially on top of the demonetization scam as of late.
--UCiS--
Facebook rolled out its new algorithm in January.
Due to the algorithm, Trump's total engagement dropped by about half, while the engagements of left-wing people such as Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren stayed largely the same.
I don't mind healthy competition between political viewpoints, but why does "oops, we're having some trouble with the algorithm" always seem to be in favor of the left?
PopeRatzo railed:
Today, CNN was lying about President Trump saying that he wanted to confiscate guns without due process. More fake news. We all know our President would never ever say such a thing!
The phony quote, if you can possibly believe it, was, "I like taking the guns early...Take the guns first. Go through due process second,” They even had some CGI version of President Trump speaking these words in a supposed meeting with members of congress.
We're not going to fall for it, no sir. We're way to smart for that. YOU DON'T GET TO SLANDER OUR PRESIDENT THAT WAY, LIBS.
Moderate parent +1 Funny, please ...
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"We fired an engineer for being aware of basic biology and psychology, and we constantly curate the front page and trending vidlist to exclude viewpoints we don't like. Oh, and we also hired 10,000 thought police. How could this happen???" -Youtube
Well, you say that, but when Google controls the narrative and buys congresscritters, the difference between Google's censorship and federal censorship becomes meaningless.
Where do you draw the line when we also value freedom of speech? People like Alex jones are nucking futs but pulling down a channel like that only makes it worse by lending credibility and showing its worthy of attention. I completely disagree with nearly anything out of that mans mouth but banning him from YouTube is something I would not be ok with. If people can't tell reality from fiction then the problem is worse than the internet police can address.
Google should have given a quick glance at Lois Lerner's resume before hiring her to run their Department Of Capricious Silencing. Or, maybe they did!
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
Pop on over to Reddit where The Donald subreddit has gone nuts banning long time posters as the mods rage against anyone and everyone. It's a slugfest of deleted posts and reposts, gun nuts against conservative zealots, people calling trump obama, it's a grade A gilded shitstorm.
FTA:
YouTube’s new moderators, brought in to spot fake, misleading and extreme videos, stumbled in one of their first major tests, mistakenly removing some clips and channels in the midst of a nationwide debate on gun control.
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On Wednesday, the Outline highlighted accounts, including Titus Frost, that were banned from the video site. Frost tweeted on Wednesday that a survivor of the shooting, David Hogg, is an actor. Jerome Corsi of right-wing conspiracy website Infowars said on Tuesday that YouTube had taken down one of his videos and disabled his live stream.
If Frost and Corsi don't qualify as fake, misleading, and extreme then those words have lost meaning.
ps. Has anyone else noticed /. being slow and intermittent the last few days? I wonder if they're on the receiving of a DDOS or something.
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At some point, pornhub is going to have this problem too. They've already got a movie pirating problem.
I'm nearly falling out of my chair right now laughing as I type this: behold the newest porn genre: Right-Wing Porn! It can't be transphobic or homophobic or islamophobic if the actor/actress of the necessary background is the one telling you to build the wall, keep a lid on refugees from backward countries, and respect the Bill of Rights.
In that case, Trump didn't really mean it because he was actually playing 12-dimensional chess and owning the libs.
You are welcome on my lawn.
That would make sense. Seems like they scraped up the editors at a bus station.
And you need a permit to operate a car. Look there are many many reason all those car/cooking knife (or heck swimming pool) comparison to gun death are utterly stupid. For one we have accepted that some objects have a primary useful activity which the general public enjoy making our capitalist societies better : transportation (car) cooking/preparing/cutting (knife) and entertainment (swimming pool). When accident do happen we try as a society to make up new law enforcing certain protection or minimum standard to help increase security lower death count, e.g. seat belt, e.g. baby seat placement instruction on car seat. Killing is at best a bar far secondary objective of such items (combat knife) or even never the objective (car, pool). But with gun it is different. The primary reason of the guns, is that they were invented to kill more efficiently. Forget the BS about sport , that did not happen in the 18th century for your average person in the US, at the time of the framing of the second amendment. And yet contrary to car, you don't have anywhere near the regulation for an instrument made up primary to kill. You don't even have nearly the same training, and you have not even the same follow up on ownership.
Every attempt at having a minimum , heck like car tracking ownership or having non discriminatory permit/training is met by a "they want to get uuuuur guuuunns" lobby of the NRA which says "no" to EVERYTHING. As long as you let those fuckers block everything with a "no", even something as simple as allowing : 1) tracking ownership electronically 2) enforce having a real training with permit like a car (that does not infringe the general population right of ownership IMO if it stops you getting one because you are too fucked up to pass the permit, as long as the exams is not the stupid 4h training the NRA offer anybody can pass with the finger in the nose) 3) allow again the CDC to study gun violence and/or solution , then the situation will get fucked up. Look up the statistics : while gun violence dropped in the last 3 decades, mass shooting actually rose. Sharply. That should tell you something right there.
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Google et al that owns youtube is a public corporation. While it may set the rules for how its site is used, that does not place it beyond long overdue anti-trust examination.
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These bans were probably done by a machine-learning computer program.
The real dangers of automation are not in job losses, but loss of the ability to live our lives in the face of monolithic corporations usurping proper governmental authority.
Humanity is in the midst of a speciation event.
On one hand, you have traditional human beings, with intelligence, wisdom, spirituality, etc.
On the other hand, you have an elite that have self-selected their genetics, culture, personality, etc. for blind, all-consuming greed, and their hordes of brainwashed slaves.
You have to pick a side.
... lol!
Suuuuuure they "mistakenly" pulled them.
Well, you say that, but when Google controls the narrative and buys congresscritters, the difference between Google's censorship and federal censorship becomes meaningless.
That works both ways. Congresscritters (and governments in Europe) are increasingly leaning on social media behemoths to curb hate speech and "fake news". Which is more than a little bit scary. What is "fake"? Recently some EU task force accused a couple of newspapers and websites of spreading fake news. In a few cases they retracted the accusation, but not until the websites themselves pointed out the articles in question were wholly factual, and threatened legal action. I really don't want that sort of stuff going on behind the scenes, where websites might not even know they were cut from the news feeds and penalized in page rankings.
There's much talk these days about the influence of large social media companies. But if these companies can be called upon to fight "fake news", by the same token they can be called upon to uphold principles of free speech. I am in favour of applying some additional "common carrier"-like rules to the larger social media sites, not to enforce censorship but to prevent it. When these companies grow to a certain size, they should be considered a "public space" and forced to offer their services indiscriminately... just like many other services are. And to be clear, in my country "indiscriminately" by law doesn't just mean race or gender or religion, it also applies to political conviction.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
SJW activist were seen and screenshotted to be talking about joining the youtube heroes program and the moderation contractors to purposely only take down anti-conservative content and let absolutely anything liberal through, even massively perverted gay and trans content. This is NO ACCIDENT.
Yes. A new moderator mistakenly believed that a channel was against Youtube's content policy and removed the channel. This isn't a "Whoops! Wrong button!" mistake.
I am ranting with "uuur guuuns" because people spout excuse for the gun lobby without thinking twice and I am an old coger enough that those issue were clarified again and again and again but the same BS keep cropping up (see same thing with global warming). Looking at *absolute* number of death is one of those tactic. Yes cars kill more people in absolute. But this is a wrong number to compare, you have to compare per hour of driving usage, to per hour of gun usage or a similar statistic. Cars are used far far more per capita than guns are carried. Thus what appears in absolute a bigger number, is actually factually per capita/per hours usage a much lower number. So the 12 fatality per 100K for car comapred to the suicide+murder of In 2013 the United States' firearm-related death rate was 10.7 deaths for every 100K inhabitants , or murder solely 3.5K per 100K you quickly see that due to the huge usage per hours of day of cars, or even their *predominant* presence in every corner city or rural, that gun are far far far more dangerous than cars by order of magnitude.
Facit : compare what is comparable. If you start comparing absolute number, then chance is that you are trying to push an agenda. You gotta make sure numbers are on a valid scale. Nuff said. Feel free to rant about me.
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Facebook is international and, as far as I know, pretty well every country in the world is happy to have - or wished it had - effective gun controls so there's not a lot of debate.
"Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"
Don't hold us accountable for our actions, we have an excuse!
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Look up the following on images.google.com
American inventors
white inventors
white couples
white women with children
white man and white woman
European history people
If you think the search results are coincidental, try searching "Asian couples" or "black inventors" or something.
I think of it as comedy.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
but they're not very noticeable. Right wing media has heavy duty backing from wealthy interests who want to see deregulation happen. The left wing media is just a bunch of guys with patreon accounts and a few donations. And no, MSNBC is not left wing.
So you hear about the right wing media because they've got the money to get noticed. As always, follow the money.
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Google can do what they want with their private service. It's not a free speech issue until the government censors.
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Nothing to see here, move along. It's just Alphabet outsourced labor enforcing the views given to them by their tech overlords.
This happened during the last election and will happen during the next one and for any other issue Alphabets overlords deem necessary.
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” - George Orwell
My ass
You do realize that the worse mass murder in a US school did not involve a gun, don't you?
There is no such thing as hate-speech....
There is ONLY speech.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
I'm pretty sure APK is my first wife doing performance art.
APK
P.S.=>PopeRatdick has a tiny pecker and tried to mack on my best friend.
You are welcome on my lawn.
We're on the same page,
The first line of my previous post was a quote from the one I was replying to (with me pointing out other reasons that starting your own was impractical)
Sorry for any confusion.
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The first one is easily explained "African-American Inventor" contains the substring "American Inventor". The problem with the rest is that most of the time none of them are identified as "white". Take Alexander Graham Bell's wikipedia page, for example. The word "white" only appears in name of a plane that Bell helped to develop, meanwhile the top result for "white inventor" is a black man who had to hire a white actor to pretend to be him to sell his inventions. It's not notable to most people that a couple is white, or that a woman with children is white, or that a man and a woman are white. The last term is more of the same, if you understand that Europeans do not often consider themselves to be "European" and instead they are British, French, German, etc. then the results again make sense because the term European is again used most often to identify historical figures who are not European.
Try searching for:
famous inventor (inventor just returns CAD images)
couples
women with children
man and woman
history people
And you'll see that most of the pictures are white people.
This doesn't look like result manipulation, it looks like the terms that you listed are most often used when the picture does not conform to the terms. It's certain counter-intuitive, but it's what anyone with an actual understanding of exactly how dumb algorithms can be would expect from page rank in these circumstances. Contrary to your claim, the results actually seem to be pretty clear evidence that Google is not manipulating these search results or the results would be better.
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