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Tumblr Has a Massive Creepshots Problem (vice.com)

After Reddit famously banned the creepshots sub-reddit, which shared non-consensual, revealing photos of women, Tumblr now has a slew of users pushing out similar photos across at least dozens of dedicated blogs, a Motherboard investigation has found. From the report: Simply typing 'creepshot' or related terms into Tumblr's built-in search function returns a steady stream of tagged posts, and Google queries easily reveal links to relevant Tumblr blogs. Motherboard found just under 70 Tumblr blogs focused on sharing creepshots, most with a bevy of content. In some cases, the Tumblrs also host 'upskirt' photos or videos, where a camera is deliberately, and stealthily, positioned to look up an unsuspecting person's skirt. Some of the subjects of these images, as well as many of the clothed creepshots, appear to be young, possibly teenagers.

"This is only the tip of the iceberg, there are probably hundreds of these accounts filming in high schools, college campuses, in malls, and on the streets. And Tumblr seems to not care at all about the problem," an anonymous tipster, who first alerted Motherboard to the issue, wrote in an email. One of the most popular creepshot Tumblrs has some 11,000 followers, and one of its posts has over 53,000 interactions linked to it, including reblogs, where the video or picture then appears on the user's own Tumblr, spreading the content further.

122 comments

  1. Goddan tumblr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    if it's not one thing it's another.

    Get on board and start cracking down on your users and tell them how to behave!

    We have to get rid of all the russian nazis before they influence any more elections

    1. Re: Goddan tumblr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you can't disprove that you did it, just have 100 people mock the idea of it to make it seem like people consider it a joke.

    2. Re: Goddan tumblr by turp182 · · Score: 2

      You point this out the day before St. Patrick's Day celebrations...

      There will be many men about in skirts/kilts tomorrow.

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    3. Re: Goddan tumblr by sycodon · · Score: 1

      Traps?

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    4. Re: Goddan tumblr by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Is there some reason that they can't say women's skirts??

      Is there a reason you specifically are suggesting that non-women don't wear skirts? Person's skirts is not only politically correct, it's also pretty damn accurate given what pictures are available on the internet.

    5. Re: Goddan tumblr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scottish people wear kilts. St. Patrick's Day is Irish.

    6. Re: Goddan tumblr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, the usual 2 top AC comments to instigate hate and disagreement! Thanks, comrades!

    7. Re: Goddan tumblr by cayenne8 · · Score: 0

      Is there a reason you specifically are suggesting that non-women don't wear skirts?

      Women wearing skirts are the norm....are you denying that, or are the majority of skirt wearers where you live non-female?

      Common sense and all that you know.

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    8. Re: Goddan tumblr by Baton+Rogue · · Score: 1
    9. Re: Goddan tumblr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good show, Ivan!

    10. Re: Goddan tumblr by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Women wearing skirts are the norm....are you denying that

      If you don't know how logic or language works then yes, I'm denying that. Or you could re-read what I said and try to make sense of English.

      where you live

      Where I live has nothing to do with the location I specified : Internet.

      Do you even English man?

    11. Re: Goddan tumblr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The phrase doesn't imply only women wear them. If I say I enjoy women's asses, I don't claim that men don't have them too, just that I don't really like looking at those.

      If a man wants to wear a skirt, good for him. But let's face it, fewer people will be trying to peek up it.

  2. Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was looking for a good source of creepshots. Time to start mirroring.

    1. Re:Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Type Creepshot into Bing and you just get a bunch of pics of females in public.

      So the big deal is that someone is taking your picture as you walk around where everyone can see you?

    2. Re:Thanks by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 1

      Don't bother. Nothing "creepy" about yoga pants butts. Searched tumblr hoping for ecchi, found only yawn.

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  3. Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If a group of users who like posting pictures like this just move from one site to another like locusts, it's not really a problem with wherever they land - it's a social and people problem.

    What can you do about it? Nothing at all, that's what. They will just go somewhere else even if you somehow managed to block them from whatever site they are on now.

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    1. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by rickb928 · · Score: 0

      The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

      - John Gilmore, 1993.

      Much wisdom from the key developers of the early Internet has been lost or ignored, to our detriment.

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    2. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes you can do something, a .357-sized hole ought to do nicely

    3. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here here, technology is meant to empower human nature. Sexuality being a large component of human nature it makes little to no sense to view it as a problem so much as a reflection of us as a large super organism with this being a definitive component of that nature.

      I'd be more likely to look at the censors than the users in these cases, sexual frustrations and hangups are generally found in those who engage in such behavior the most prevalently fueled by shame causing it to be naughty causing it to be yet more desirable in a mobius strip. This is where you will find the people who marry children and scream about it being 'for the children' or homosexuals actively attacking the homosexual community. Our censors are the most insane of us one and all.

    4. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by snookerdoodle · · Score: 1

      It's not a tech problem, but it is a character problem. The reddit folks didn't ban this because they cared about the victims. They did it because of public pressure.

      Tumblr (and previously reddit) could have taken a stand that the victims' rights outweighed the posters' rights and gained some respect. Could have.

      Of course it doesn't make it go away. But it could remove one "legitimate" (ok, it's Tumblr) source of implied approval.

    5. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Kjella · · Score: 1, Interesting

      What can you do about it? Nothing at all, that's what. They will just go somewhere else even if you somehow managed to block them from whatever site they are on now.

      You're assuming that the point of these smear campaigns is to make people stop taking and sharing creepshots. It's about trying to discredit and kill sites that allow user-supplied content, or if not that then to give corporations and special interest organizations free reign to install automated content scanners, issue take downs and block whatever it is they don't like. Or just spinning up rumors to smear competing services even though your photo sharing service has many creepshots of its own, because most people think where there's smoke there's fire. You'd be surprised how many people just mind blank and start raging against one particular company or service if you just pick the right trigger.

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    6. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah? How do ya route around your ISP when they snip your cable and jam your wifi? You gonna start up yer own? Until we get ad hoc P2P, you're barking up a tree without a paddle.

    7. Re: Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What?

    8. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      That only solves the problem for you though, not in the general case. :-)

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    9. Re: Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by liefer · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Let's just abandon all social etiquette and ask laws. Since there's nothing we can do about human behavior anyway

    10. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

      - John Gilmore, 1993.

      Much wisdom from the key developers of the early Internet has been lost or ignored, to our detriment.

      Which is why twitter and Facebook will cease to be relevant in the near future

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    11. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not a tech problem, but it is a character problem. The reddit folks didn't ban this because they cared about the victims. They did it because of public pressure.

      Tumblr (and previously reddit) could have taken a stand that the victims' rights outweighed the posters' rights and gained some respect. Could have.

      Of course it doesn't make it go away. But it could remove one "legitimate" (ok, it's Tumblr) source of implied approval.

      If you set the precedent that a forum operator is responsible for all user content, you may not like the result.

      I am old enough to remember the 1990s, a time when the existence of transgendered people was not a topic one could discuss in front of children. If the internet had existed in its current form, Reddit and Tumblr would have faced significant pressure to disallow forums that discussed the existence of transgendered people. Should they have caved to that pressure? I would say "no", because I don't think a forum opperor should have to make sure all user content meets the demands of everyone everywhere. Please don't set the opposite precedent!

      You may think that the moral standards you have are those that people should have for the rest of time. Every generation does, and every generation so far has been wrong. The particular case identified here may be horrible, and I would not blame Tumblr for trying to excise the content from its servers. However, be careful that in your zeal to stop one terrible idea, you don't let them set a precedent that will stop any future social movement from expressing good ideas that happen to be unpopular.

    12. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People can reduce their risk of being victimized by such shots by:

      1) Dressing conservatively.
      2) Behaving conservatively.
      3) Taking careful stock of public restrooms before using them.

      I am not blaming the victim. I am just pointing out a simple strategy to help reduce the degree to which this happens to you, and that is entirely under your control.

    13. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This isn't about censorship and you know it. This is about consent. The subjects of these pictures did not give consent, and it is totally reasonable for a person to expect that such pictures of themselves will not be taken in the absence of consent.

    14. Re: Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In before "virtue signaling".

    15. Re: Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Feminism has taught me anything, it is that the entire site needs to be taken down! Who cares if it is only a small fraction of the users doing something wrong- EVERYONE on the site is guilty. Hell. Even people who simply visit Tumblr are guilty. Not just guilty either, but GUILTY guilty. We should smear their names on the internet, and tell their boss(es), friends, neighbors, and significant others about just how guilty they are. We should run them out of town guilty. Maybe even look into changing the laws so they are felons now, and no I am not talking about those who took the photos: EVERYBODY on the site. Don't wait for evidence, we must act now while the outrage is still white hot, innocent people be damned! #Feminism #YesEverybody

    16. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm surprised you didn't blame everything on nebulous 'leftists'.

    17. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      No, the story here is that as one site forces them out it just relocates the problem somewhere else. Same as in real life.

      Companies apparently need to be on the lookout for migrating swarms of arseholes looking to turn their site into something creepy or illegal. None of them are motivated to do more than move them on.

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    18. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's reasonable for me to expect it, but not anticipate success. My pie-in-the-sky hopes are safe to dream about because I don't have a naive worldview that extends to me and my possessions.

      My defenses against a world of logging and dragnets aren't navel-gazing and outrage. My defenses against license plate readers, drones (state or private) and the OCEAN of invisible databases that we're in yet oblivious to, etc - against those I will look for tools more substantial than vilification.

      But someone takes a shitty vertical phone picture of my butt in yoga pants and the city needs to come to a screeching halt while I employ a tantrum that definitely makes a relapse impossible.

    19. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is about consent.

      Let's say I was frolicking at the beach and some random woman, who was sexually attracted to my flabby middle-aged male body, took some photos of me without my knowledge or consent. Well, if my wife somehow become aware of it then my wife wouldn't be particularly happy about but she wouldn't be all that upset either: it's OK for random women to think that I'm sexually attractive.

      But let's say that, instead, I took some photos of myself frolicking at the beach and sent them to a random woman who happened to be sexually attracted to me. Well, if my wife somehow became aware of that, wow, she would be upset beyond all reason: to the extent that I think other women are sexually attractive, it's definitely not OK to let them know about it.

      Or what if some woman came up to me on the beach and asked my consent - whether, since she was sexually attractive to my luscious middled-age body, it would be OK for her to take a few photos for her later enjoyment - perhaps even sharing the photos with a few of her closest online friends who happened to have similar taste in men's bodies. If I gave consent and my wife found out about it, I would definitely be on shaky ground.

      TL;DR sometimes consent makes it better and sometimes it doesn't. :)

    20. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a girl watcher
      I'm a girl watcher
      Watchin' girls go by
      My, my, my

    21. Re:Or maybe it's not a tech problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't about censorship and you know it. This is about consent.

      The internet can't tell the difference.

  4. Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Slashdot appears to have a liberal bias problem, because we keep on getting stories about how tech sites are victimizing those poor, helpless, vulnerable women who are also incredibly powerful but that we're apparently harassing out of tech despite the fact that merely looking at a woman is enough to get you fired these days.

    People are posting pictures of people that they took in public. Who cares? Apparently the whining liberals who are constantly on the lookout for things to be outraged over, unable to figure out why the rest of the world hates them.

    1. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Millennium · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is why you can't get a date.

    2. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go to hell, baizuo, and stop harassing other people. The mangina here is you, only real men get dates, fucker. Now go get your butt plug and put it in your mouth after taking it out of your ass, as the sissy bitch you are.

    3. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a liberal conspiracy?

    4. Re:Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol fag

      liberals are awesome, the world actually hates you

    5. Re:Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Liberals are a shit.

    6. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      ... liberal bias ...

      Let me see; 'liberal' means an ideology tasked 'to tolerate and to protect'. So you're suggesting women prefer intolerant, negligent men. Well, Slashdot doesn't want that sort of woman.

      Oh, you're a uneducated American who doesn't know that 'liberal' is related to Authoritarian (protective, no tolerance) and Anarchist (tolerant, no protection).

      George Orwell was correct: Controlling the words is controlling what people think. Many Americans demonstrate they don't understand any ideology not connected to greed, self-importance and a vague promise of meritocracy.

    7. Re:Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      James Damore - you forgot to login again dude.

    8. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by dbrueck · · Score: 1

      Oh, this is rich: you're criticizing someone and simultaneously making the very same mistake that they are allegedly making.

    9. Re:Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound like a Lavrov. Are you a Lavrov?

    10. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Millennium · · Score: 2

      I understand. It's hard when nobody wants you around. Have you tried not being creepy? That usually works.

    11. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boy I'm glad we solved that mystery that clearly had everyone stuped and scratching their heads, here's another +1 insightful for your dissertation

    12. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Millennium · · Score: 1

      When you seek to destroy people, you lose any claim to protection: you become the thing people need protectiob from. Nothing but a common bully, who deserves what all bullies deserve.

    13. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many Americans demonstrate they don't understand any ideology not connected to greed, self-importance and a vague promise of meritocracy.

      I've been trying for a while now to come up with a succinct way of describing the political and social malaise that is currently infecting this country. I think you just nailed it.

      Well done.

    14. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why you can't get a date.

      The liberal/conservative bullshit is as moronic as it always is but the OP is right about the rest. These are pictures of these people out in public places, dressing how they chose to dress and often not even showing faces. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Guys are just told to get over it if it's even mentioned at all. And both men and women creep on other guys as well though admittedly not as often. Maybe that's because most guys don't dress for attention.

      If I were to walk around a mall in hot shorts and a tank top or yoga pants and a thong people would look. Someone might even take pictures. That's a predictable result and arguably the intended behavior. Despite what some people claim, tight clothing is not more comfortable. It's worn because it gets attention. Yoga pants are just not more comfortable than sweats but they do look better. We lost a reasonable expectation of public privacy around the same time camera phones were released. Assume when you're in public that you might be checked out or photographed and dress accordingly. You're much less likely to be ogled if wear non-skinny jeans and normal fit t-shirt.

    15. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Dread_ed · · Score: 2

      Creepy is only a problem if you are ugly. No one thinks you're creepy if they think you're hot. So, don't try to not be creepy, that is impossible. Instead, try being hot.

      Barring that, keep an attorney around and have him do everything for you, as your council.

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    16. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is the pinnacle of sexism of the left. Have no argument against what a man says? Attack his social status and be praised for doing so.

      The left is not about the truth, or argumentation, or the benefit of society. The left has moved away from liberalism long ago. Today, the left is about gaining control for the left. Facts that conflict don't matter. Argumentation doesn't matter. Even being hypocritical doesn't matter. Only group cohesion.

      The tribe is absolute.

    17. Re:Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by magarity · · Score: 1

      People are posting pictures of people that they took in public

      ... with mini cameras attached to their shoes.

    18. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You all known a gay cuckold like you only takes it up the ass. And you call creepy to others? I date women, hot women as real macho man, not other men like you.

    19. Re:Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most things that involve intellectual debate, writing, spelling, etc. do. Site design for certain types of accessibility is tough. Perhaps as AI advances it can replace what is missing and open up the world for those less enabled.

    20. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Millennium · · Score: 0

      Here's a hint: it's not your looks. You just can't hide it. If you could stand to do what that takes, you wouldn't need to. Which isn't to say that you'll never be non-creepy; it just means that you'll first have to recognize your own need to change and grow as a person.

    21. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      No one thinks you're creepy if they think you're hot. So, don't try to not be creepy, that is impossible.

      Huh, I didn't realise I'm incredibly hot. I mean I guess I must be since I'm not creepy.

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    22. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Millennium · · Score: 1

      This is the pinnacle of sexism of the left. Have no argument against what a man says? Attack his social status and be praised for doing so.

      Dude, they're called creepshots for a reason. They're taken by creeps, for creeps, and the fan community openly embraces this. What exactly did you expect?

      The left is not about the truth, or argumentation, or the benefit of society. The left has moved away from liberalism long ago. Today, the left is about gaining control for the left. Facts that conflict don't matter. Argumentation doesn't matter. Even being hypocritical doesn't matter. Only group cohesion.

      The tribe is absolute.
      You've made one very flawed assumption: I'm not a leftist. I don't claim all paths are equally true, or that all feelings are valid, or that all people deserve protection. To me, you are not an exception to any rules, nor do you represent an inconsistency in my worldview. You're merely the worst of the worst, and perhaps the only threat that warrants this particular kind of harshness. Casting you out is a civic duty.

    23. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Millennium · · Score: 1

      That contraption you built out of pillows and a fleshlight doesn't count, you know.

    24. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Millennium · · Score: 1

      These are pictures of these people out in public places, dressing how they chose to dress and often not even showing faces.

      This is irrelevant. Failing to understand this is a large part of what makes you so creepy.

    25. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by liefer · · Score: 2

      I understand that you'll probably take some pride and find some validation in being modded up here. But consider who are agreeing with you: nerds. Nerds who have never been successful with women. So they'll agree with you, because it's comforting while still hitting their deepest fear (and reality for most): sex being inaccessible. For men who are actually successful with women it's obvious that the guy you are replying to is absolutely correct in everything he said

    26. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Creepy is only a problem if you are ugly. No one thinks you're creepy if they think you're hot.

      No, it's your behaviour. I'm on the autistic spectrum. In my younger days I was often regarded as creepy due to lack of social skills. As I've learned more social skills as I got older I got to the stage where I'm reasonably popular with women. I don't think I've become more physically attractive.

      There could be things about the way you interact that you don't understand. For me in particular it was making eye contact in ways women are comfortable with that made a big difference.

    27. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by Millennium · · Score: 1

      I understand that you'll probably take some pride and find some validation in being modded up here.

      I actually prefer the down-mods. They're how I know I'm striking nerves.

      But consider who are agreeing with you: nerds. Nerds who have never been successful with women.

      Well, nerds are this site's core target audience. Are you admitting that you don't belong here?

      But "nerds who have never been successful with women"? Man, I remember my own unsuccessful phase. I was a total creep, just like you and your fellow foreveralones, and for many of the same reasons. I wasn't as far along the path of bitterness, but I was on it. This was a long time ago, before /r9k/ or even the red pill, but you'd have recognized me.

      What changed? Well, I did, but more to the point, someone found a way to force me to stop ignoring the truth. And even now, decades later, I still call that the worst day of my life. I mean, think about it: all those years of hating your ostracizers, lumping them in with the bullies, and then yoy find out the ostracizers were right all along? That's going to suck for anybody.

      But the funny thing about the worst day of your life is that it stops getting worse. The results were almost as quick as they were dramatic. The bullying stopped within weeks, the ostracism stopped within months. Women started to notice, and in a year I had my first girlfriend, all without any of that PUA garbage (the only thing any PUA ever said that is not bullshit is that rejection is not worth your fear). Nowadays I'm happily married. And all I ever really had to do was listen. The rest followed from there.

      So they'll agree with you, because it's comforting while still hitting their deepest fear (and reality for most): sex being inaccessible.

      Ah, but I'm not saying sex is inaccessible. Quite the opposite. Yes, I'm saying that women can sense that sex with you is a bad idea, and this is your fault, but I'm saying that you can change all that. And you can do it without elaborate acts or training regimes, because phoniness is another kind of creepiness so those things are actually counterproductive. I'm not asking you to become someone else; I'm only asking you to grow.

      For men who are actually successful with women it's obvious that the guy you are replying to is absolutely correct in everything he said

      Then why haven't you been successful with women? Why have things only been failure after failure for, despite your supposedly doing everything right?

    28. Re: Slashdot has a liberal bias problem by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      Creepy is only a problem if you are ugly. No one thinks you're creepy if they think you're hot.

      Ya, but then the problem just escalates from creepy to inappropriate behavior, abusive, or some other worse issue. Being "creepy" is usually a sign of even more deep problems, not just some quirk. The same things shows up when the genders are reversed. The first thing other guys ask when they hear some other guy had a "stalker" was if she was good looking. I usually interject the answer "No, otherwise she'd be a "psycho ex-girlfriend", to the agreement of the guy that had the stalker.

  5. They will just move to the dark web by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you ban it on the light web, the streisand effect will take it underground.

  6. 99% of creepshots are from teenagers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just sayin if you search that on tumblr you will notice nearly every person pictured is high school aged or from a foreign country (usually brazil for obvious reasons)

    1. Re:99% of creepshots are from teenagers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  7. They're not very revealing though. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just searched tumblr for this 'creepshot' thing and all I got was shots of butts clad in jeans or whatever. They're barely sexual if you ask me, despite what the summary tells us.

    Do I need to disable some NSFW filter to see worse stuff?

  8. not a tumblr problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can go on usenet 20 years ago and find this.
    This is a "internet is serious business" problem.
    Idiots are discovering for the first time that there are no rules online, and that everything that can be shared will be shared.

  9. Tumblr seems to not care at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Content is not their business. They provide a communication service, not a babysitting service. Fuck all the people that want more censorship here also. Unfortunately they have too much clout, and Tumblr will probably cave. After all, it is a business, and I don't believe they want to throw good money at litigation, no matter the principle of the thing. The real goal we need to pursue without further discussion is to make the internet truly decentralized and impossible to censor. Fuck all the crybabies who want control!

    1. Re:Tumblr seems to not care at all by deong · · Score: 1

      What litigation? No one is being prosecuted or sued here. The government isn't stepping in and telling anyone what they can or cannot say or do. Users have the right to criticize Tumblr for what they perceive Tumblr to be falling down at. Tumblr has the right to control how its property is used and how its brand is presented.

      You sound really fired up about free speech, right up to the part where you'd prefer no one else have any of it.

    2. Re:Tumblr seems to not care at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Users have the right to criticize Tumblr for what they perceive Tumblr to be falling down at.

      Yes, people are entitled to be whiny little bitches, but that's all they are as they continue elect and reelect psychopaths into our government. Fuck them! We need to harden our technology against these dweebs, not cripple it for their appeasement.

  10. Gotta say it. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Pics or it didn't happen.

    [ What? Don't look at me like that; you were thinking it too. :-) ]

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    1. Re:Gotta say it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  11. OMG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please censor this ASAP, it is discussing.
    https://creepshotcandid.tumblr...

    Let me have a peek to complain to the L'Osservatore Romano....
    Horrible!
    Let me have another peek to call the Sharia police....
    Thats bad really.
    Hmmmmm, let me have another pic just because some sin might have escaped me....

  12. Define "creepshot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For those of us who are not in fact creeps and don't necessarily want first-hand exposure to it, what _is_ a "creepshot" and why is it assumed that all readers of this site already know the term?

    1. Re:Define "creepshot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For those of us who are not in fact creeps and don't necessarily want first-hand exposure to it, what _is_ a "creepshot" and why is it assumed that all readers of this site already know the term?

      Literally the first line of the summary should make that clear? "[...] non-consensual, revealing photos of women"

    2. Re:Define "creepshot" by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 1

      Pics of girls in yoga pants mixed with obviously porn posed-for upskirts.

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      "Prediction: within 10 years, Windows will be a Linux distribution." Me, 7-6-2016
    3. Re:Define "creepshot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A creep shot is a picture of a woman taken by an man without the woman's consent. Most of these pictures happen in public or a public space where consent isn't required. There is nothing illegal about the pictures, including those of children. However, many of these pictures are cropped to focus on the breasts, butt, or crotch.

      As an amateur photographer, I have often been told to stop taking pictures when I am out and about with my DSLR. Some people call the police to report me for a perfectly legal activity. Walking around with a camera is like walking around with a rifle, it brings out the fear in people.

    4. Re:Define "creepshot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Walking around with a camera is like walking around with a rifle
      Then you mention anything about their shitty phone practices and they go full LET THEM WATCH I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE

      You're a pleb, there isn't a human looking at your selfies (I mean covert, but overt too). Monitoring != Logging

    5. Re:Define "creepshot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pics of girls in yoga pants mixed with obviously porn posed-for upskirts.

      Don't forget the short shorts and two size too small tops

    6. Re:Define "creepshot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because guys are too lazy to do yoga, apparently.

    7. Re:Define "creepshot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see. Given that, from my experience, most women leave the house in revealing clothing, this is then a new term to mean "candid" photos? Why make everything sound creepy?

    8. Re:Define "creepshot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes it is.

      Because a story about street photography is of no interest to the general public.

      Clicks = $$$$$

  13. Continued objectification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... a camera is deliberately, and stealthily, positioned ...

    There are plenty of photos where the woman knew she was photographed, many times, taking the photograph herself: But did she know the photograph would be publicly available on Tumblr or other web-sites? Most women aren't famous like Paris Hilton or Pamela Anderson, so the damage from such theft of privacy, is negligible. The issue isn't peeping-toms spying on schoolgirls, or peeping-toms with cameras as everyone thinks, it's the continued objectification of women, many times, perpetrated by the woman herself. Part of this is biological: Women have something men can't access on demand. Part of this is sociological: Standards of beauty promote that biological power structure.

    Tumblr seems to not care...

    The only power Tumblr has is censoring such images, which seems like a no-brainer to enforce. But, like on Facebook, it's people behaving badly that creates traffic, which is what free web-sites need. While Facebook is a bulletin board of fake news shoved under subscriber's noses, Tumblr tends to carry true images of (naked) people, hidden from view until demanded. Information wants to be free, so if Tumblr doesn't provide the content, someone else, will. Besides, there are plenty of web-sites censoring photos, so a web-site full of uncensored truth has much credibility. Thus, Tumblr must balance their truth-on-demand service with the cost of that truth, the objectification of females. It's difficult to justify the stalking of schoolgirls, so public disapproval will fix the creep-shot part of the problem.

  14. The good news is... by nightfire-unique · · Score: 2

    ... we'll probably be okay.

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    A government is a body of people notably ungoverned - AC
  15. Well Actually... by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    Yeah? How do ya route around your ISP when they snip your cable and jam your wifi?

    VPN
    Cell Internet
    Satellite Internet
    Library Internet
    Library Internet in other states
    Move to one of many countries that welcome pervs/pedophiles.
    and so on.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re: Well Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Library? So, in full view of an entire room of other people and these days monitoring devices, you're going to set up a VPN to surf whatever?

      Yeah, ok.

      ISP also included cell carriers. That's the Internet part of the Service they are Providing.

    2. Re:Well Actually... by darth.hunterix · · Score: 1

      You forgot Avian Carriers: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rf...

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    3. Re: Well Actually... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Library? So, in full view of an entire room of other people

      Ask me how I know you have NEVER seen the computer room in a library in recent years.

      Yes, people really do view ANYTHING there. Even if they are not supposed to... why does this surprise anyone at all???

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      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  16. BINGO by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    These Creep-Shot people are just being used as tools to try and kill off free and open expression. It's impossible to say which of these are jerks, and which are false flag operations trying to present the problem as worse than it really is.

    I don't like creep shots but I hate censorship far more.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:BINGO by deong · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So you don't like "censorship".

      Great. Here's what actually happened. Third parties did some basic research and found the existence of this material on Tumblr's site. Other people then pressure Tumblr to remove that content. Tumblr will presumably then remove this content. If you find this series of events objectionable, what's your preferred alternative? Should Tumblr be compelled by law to host them? Should third parties be prevented from pointing them out? Are you just saying you'd prefer Tumblr ignore them?

      I have a hard time seeing any censorship here. This appears to be a bunch of people using their freedom to speak their mind, and (presumably) a company agreeing with them. It's not really censorship for me to paint over your graffiti on my wall. It's my wall. I get to decide what I want it to say. You can go paint your own wall. You may wish Tumblr would do otherwise, but it's their wall. They aren't obligated, legally or ethically, to display anything they don't want on that wall.

  17. More than that! by slashmydots · · Score: 0

    They also have an absolutely loonie far leftist nut job problem but they aren't doing anything about that either because that's who runs the company.

  18. Tumblr? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tumblr gets most of their traffic due to the huge variety of niche pornography that they host. Why is anyone surprised that they are specifically hosting creepshot pics?

  19. Why is this a problem? by cyn1c77 · · Score: 1

    The upskirt images are not appropriate or legal, but it is legal to take images of people in public settings, isn't it?

    We have no reasonable expectation of privacy in public, as the US government and the media industry has made quite clear.

    Also, while it is amazing what some of these woman are wearing in public, presumably they were aware of their appearance when they left the house?

    1. Re:Why is this a problem? by chiefcrash · · Score: 2

      Depending on where they were taken, the upskirt images are likely perfectly legal: http://helloflo.com/perfectly-...

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  20. And nor should they by thegarbz · · Score: 0

    Maybe if people stop expecting that they have a right to privacy when out in public they can stop getting angry when someone sees them. Seriously google creepshot. If the resulting photo of normally fully dressed women viewed from public and obvious places annoys you then maybe you are part of the problem. If finding a picture of yourself pointing your g-string in the direction of a camera through skin tight leggings which are about 4 sizes too small disturbs you, maybe you shouldn't dress that way in public if you don't want people to see you that way.

  21. Reap what you sow by erapert · · Score: 0

    tl;dr: the creeps and the girls flaunting their sexuality are both assholes and idiots.

    Wear revealing clothes and do your absolute best to flaunt your sexuality in public?
    People ("creeps") will take notice. Why are you mad? Attention is exactly what you wanted isn't it?
    Oh, wait, I know why you're mad. It's because you feel humiliated when people just take pictures of what you're flaunting.
    Well you can't have your cake and eat it too, princess. Wear a whore's uniform and try to get extra attention from being sexy and then you'll be treated like a sexual object-- but it's you that's making yourself a sexual object so you have no right to complain.

    So, presuming that this is a problem, what should be done about this?

    I only see two ways to go:
    1. Burqas or some similar regulation to prevent people of both sexes from flaunting their sexuality (and thus getting extra attention or whatever from it).
    2. Everyone shut up and let those who choose to play such games reap what they sow and don't give them any sympathy or attention or help.

    My vote is for #2
    Let the creeps and the attention whores play their stupid games and generate their dumb little drama and get this stupid shit off /.

    1. Re:Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been on tumblr since 2009 and holy hell you have no idea how far down the rabbit hole this kind of attitude goes.

      You have people who go out of their way to tell you how flamboyantly they choose to appear in public and without skipping a beat complain about how people treat them differently. "Why can't I be accepted" people lament as they meticulously buck social convention.

      The longer I am online the sadder humanity seems.

    2. Re:Reap what you sow by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Wear revealing clothes and do your absolute best to flaunt your sexuality in public?

      If someone has to take a picture secretly, and that picture is not being taken for the express and specific purpose of uncovering some misdeed, then that's a sign that they are doing something wrong. The standard has always been that you don't look up people's skirts. If you're talking about pictures of people in public which are taken without deception or disguise, then I'm actually with you (although not quite so frothy about it) but if you're talking about upskirts and the like, you're off your nut.

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  22. Maybe if women were dressed more modestly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there wouldn't be a creep shot issue at all. You might even say they deserved it for what they were wearing.

    1. Re:Maybe if women were dressed more modestly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Were they asking for it?

    2. Re:Maybe if women were dressed more modestly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they didn't want to dress that way, they shouldn't have been asking for so many creepshots!

  23. Re:vice.com has a Soros problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    kike

  24. No, Tumblr doesn't care by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2

    And Tumblr seems to not care at all about the problem,

    It's the same with their rape videos, or videos showing torture. And no, I don't mean the simulated ones. I mean women who are unconscious being raped, one on a kitchen counter fighting off her attacker, and so on.

    That's the real reason Tumblr forced people to get an account. They think they're hiding these photos/videos but as this story shows, it's really just a shell game.

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    We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
  25. Oh tumblr! by OrangeTide · · Score: 2

    You're like the parking lot behind the Dollar General where all the degenerates hang out.

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    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
  26. Lost me there by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Tumblr will presumably then remove this content.

    Presumably? It's Tumblr. 10% chance it's gone, 15% chance it's highlighted.

    If you find this series of events objectionable, what's your preferred alternative? Should Tumblr be compelled by law to host them?

    Yep, if you are going to run an image hosting site, cannot discriminate based on content, only illegal materials get removed. If someone wants to say creepy images are illegal, fine, but they have to codify what that MEANS.

    They aren't obligated, legally or ethically, to display anything they don't want on that wall.

    Legally? No. Ethically? There I would argue they do have an obligation to host the material, no matter how distasteful.

    A whole other level of problem related to the content being removed is, how much of it is staged... at this point there is nothing you would consider immoral or creepy that does not have a large number of people producing porn and other images based around the concept.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  27. "Just under 70 Tumblr blogs", huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Just under 70" (i.e., "69") blogs about sexual images?

    This comedy writes itself...

  28. Re:vice.com has a Soros problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Capitalist stooges both of you.

  29. what is this SJW bullshit doing on here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    stories that have nothing to do with news for nerds. site is basically dead. all the posts are shit and nobody actually uses accounts anymore.

  30. Oh the humanity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup. You can move along now.

  31. No expectations of privacy when out in public by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry, but there is no fucking expectation of 'privacy' when out in public. So if females are showing tit or cameltoe or their ass poured into yoga pants....guess what...tough shit. You no likely?...then cover up in public. Wear fucking panties or shorts under a skirt.
    As a male, if I don't want to show the outline of my cock in public, I don't dress like fucking Peter Pan...no pun intended.
    This isn't a hard concept to grasp...also no pun intended. Lol.

  32. Problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see a problem Girls go out dressed like this to be seen. Of course SJW have to make a big fuss about it.