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'A Fresh, Clean Look.' Gmail Is About To Get a Makeover (fortune.com)
Google says it is working on a big refresh for Gmail on the web. From a report: The upgrade was revealed in a message from Google to administrators of G Suite accounts -- G Suite being the suite of Google services that organizations can use on their own web domains, rather than Google's. The message stated that the changes would be coming to consumer Gmail accounts, as well as G Suite accounts. Google said the refresh would include not only a "fresh, clean look for Gmail on the web," but also easy ways to access other Google services, such as Google Calendar, from the Gmail web app. The company recently started winding down its Chrome apps for all platforms but Google's own Chrome OS. Windows, Mac and Linux users are now being encouraged to instead use Google's web apps, and it's only logical that those interfaces are now getting upgraded to include the functionality that would otherwise be lost. The Verge has screenshots of the new interface.
Don't touch GMail. It is your only product still worth half a damn. Your Material Design system sucks. No one but you wants this refresh
Anyone have a different/better free email service.
The millennial that doesn't like most of the stuff designed for millennials.
Anyone here use Inbox?
That regulation will keep Google from reading everything you send and receive.
I don't really see a difference.
"Google is implementing smart replies for Gmail on the web, the same feature from mobile Gmail that provides suggestions to quickly reply to emails."
I don't like that but if is easy to switch off I could live with it.
I HATE EVERYTHING
Web apps never function properly unless I connect to the internet. How useless is that? I have to shut down my application whenever my mom needs to use the phone.
Plus I like to use my own computer and storage instead of googles.
I sure can't wait for an oversized design full of useless whitespace, flat design and no affordances with 50% of the content hidden.
Now with 99% more spying on you
Using wordless icons makes sense in a 5 inch mobile screen. Here I have two 24 inch full def screens, and I need to guess "will this create a new message? or this? Or will it reply all? Where is that stupid gear icon? Oh, they changed it to ham-sandwich. Now ham-sandwich is gone and we got kebab. There is a + in a circle. Or sometimes there is a pencil. "
There is no clear demarkation of where the clickable area ends. There is no delineation of clickable areas. Who designs these swipe gestures? swipe up down left right pinch and expand roll ....
They will not rest till we all spend all our days learning new GUI every day.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
If it does it's for the worse, seems it's just a modern curse
--Oingo Boingo
Dear Google,
Please don't touch the plain HTML web client.
It's the one part of Gmail which is fast and efficient and doesn't need Javascript.
Thanks. (Signed, a guy who just wants to send email without having to fight a "modern" UI.)
While composing if you press TAB then the [Send] button will get focus which is to be expected.
Except Gmail has this annoying "feature/bug" that it does NOT colorize the [Send] button with a different background color -- except with a thin dotted rectangle that is bloody hard to see. It is too easy to then press Enter thinking you are going to indent the current line except you accidently fire off the email. Thank God for the Undo at the top.
Since Google still doesn't understand good UI here is a console snippet that will color-code the [Send] button red when it has focus.
for( var i = 0; i < document.styleSheets.length; i++ )
for( var j = 0; j < document.styleSheets[i].cssRules.length; j++ )
if( document.styleSheets[i].cssRules[j].selectorText === ".T-I-atl:focus" )
document.styleSheets[i].cssRules[j].style.backgroundImage = "-webkit-linear-gradient(top,#F48,#F00)";
WTF is Gmail being re-designed when they don't even understand _basic_ UI ?
Google just finally killed their old Finance page. The new one is a complete POS. Let's hope the guys in charge of that 'improvement" don't get anywhere near Gmail.
To cover up the fact they haven't made a decent product in years if not decades.
Its the same with Apple and M$ at the least. Lets shiny up are stuff without fixing it. The users won't know and we will get paid.
The millennial that doesn't like most of the stuff designed for millennials.
He (Anand Paka) fucked up G News because he didn't have a clue about what the users want (No sorting by date for News WTF !!)
I hope they won't do the same with gmail.
Howabout everyone stop using these surveillance company oriented centralized services like gmail and move back to a decentralized internet?
Boring.
After years of terrible UI....Google decided to change GMail interface to be laid out like Outlook has been since 1995. LOL wtf?
The jack offs already ruined calendar, now they're ruining Gmail?
Change for the sake of change. I hate it! Silicon valley and it's adhd on design changes ffs. Let it go! If it ain't broke don't fix it.
I don't care what they want to do with it, so long as they either leave the themes as a feature or offer a dark background. I've had a dark theme applied to my personal account for years now and prefer it that way.
Somehow I suspect I'm going to be forced to go with the white background though, since contemporary designer types just absolutely adore white for UI - and tend to ignore user preferences.
Anyone knows a freemail provider I could move to?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
God Damn idiots thing I'm going to buy another effen monitor? Hell I have enough trouble at 1600x900 due to my eyes (damn near blind now) so anything that needs more screen real estate (stinking sidebars) just takes from the important part.
Graphic designers can fall into the trap of thinking that their work can somehow change the world through good design, so they get tempted to try to apply that to everything.... Yet not realize when it didn't work or that (amount of effort) != (amount of good).
In this case Google's designers have gone crazy. I am absolutely incensed with them for rolling out this ridiculous tile-laden, cluttered redesign of Google Flights, for example: https://www.google.com/flights
when the old version was clean, functional, and unconfusing: https://www.google.com/flights...
(by the way, you can revert to the old version by clicking the "running man" in th lower left of the window).
Graphic designers -- please moderate yourselves and realize when too far is too far!
Why the F is the class for the Send button named .T-I-atl, that is the question.
I will welcome any Gmail redesign that will rename classes to readable, understandable English words accurately reflecting their functions.
Over they ears we have learned that software hits its functionality high point... but the company still employs people who are supposed to make it better.
After the high point all they can do is make it worse. It is like paying cooks to make cookies and after they have the perfect dough, you tell them to keep adding ingredients. "Dog ownership is trending right now so please add stuff that is dog related to the dough.", "DIY bathroom fixes are trending right now so please add something toilet related to the dough." "My nephew is taking art classes at college and is really into driving and animals. add some roadkill related stuff to the dough", "The CEO has to have a colon exam this week, add something colon related to the dough." "... hey composting is trending right now.."
"Man are our customers going to LOVE these cookies!"
We call this the "Microsoft Method". Hide, remove, or break the tools. Add "pretty" and with it double the number of steps to do something. More shiny and less functionality!
Fucking "designers" are getting way too full of themselves. Look, I grant that good industrial design is a hugely useful and can add a lot of value to a product. But WAY too many products these days (software especially) have changes for the sake of changes so designers can collect a paycheck and keep busy. My smartphone has WAY too many applications with needlessly obtuse interface decision because the "designer" thought they looked cool or wanted things to be needlessly minimalistic. It's function following form when it should be the other way around.
It seems pretty clear that usability testing is no longer a thing in software interface design. I am SO tired of incomprehensible icons, unintuitive gestures, blind navigation spaces, hidden design elements, lack of written labels, inconsistent interfaces, and needless changes to perfectly functional software. I hate web pages that put information that should fit on one screen in a huge page forcing me to scroll endlessly over needlessly large graphics that convey little information. (Apple I'm look at you here)
I hate it when companies spin dumbing down as cleaning up.
You people who believe that government actually solves problems (despite 5,000 years of historical evidence to the contrary) are amazing. Google is one of the biggest companies on Earth and is vastly more powerful than any member of Congress. "Regulation" means Google will write the regulations to their benefit and to crush the competition.
If you want to make a difference, VOTE WITH YOUR MONEY and use private technology that doesn't track you. Start by ditching Gmail for an alternative like ProtonMail or StartMail, and ditching Google search for DuckDuckGo or StartPage.
It's intrinsically insecure based on the way it was designed 30+ years ago. Securing e-mail would require a wholesale reprogramming of the entire protocol. You'd then have to find a way to roll it out to billions of people using tens of thousands of different service providers almost simultaneously. This huge, gigantic flaw in e-mail is the chief example of why federation doesn't work.
I hope the new GMail is not worse. Google now seems poorly managed in many ways.
Fresh and Clean look == More white space, new icons with no labels, no clear clickable areas, flat blue on white color scheme you can't change.....
I fuckin hate this new flat shit
Sometimes I think these UI guys are sitting around like this scene from Total Recall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
To hell with that. I use Thunderbird, and for good reason. It's one extra measure of control for me, one less for Google.
But rest assured this will be even less contrast, even less user friendly... no words will be displayed in favor of icons (since modern youth use only short written word and occasional vocal grunting to communicate, right "brah?")
I can't wait..
I don't think that word means what they think it means. I took a look at the screen shots in TFA and really it looks like they just added a side bar, changed some icons and maybe switched to a different shade of white for the background...
This all sounds like job creationism, someone is making changes just to justify their job and usually that doesn't end well, especially when the actual users are not consulted about such changes....
Google does (ironically, since these postings were extremely difficult to find for most users between 2011-14).
If I know Google, it will definitely involve arbitrary changes with no plan to extend the most desirable UX features that currently exist.
Some dipfshit "Designers" are going to fuck it up and make it horrible to look at, horrible to use, and drive me to go back to using "elm" or something like that.
All the better to collect your personal data.with my dear
The Gmail Android app is already unusable due to the retarded thread view that gives no information about whether or not you're looking at a draft or not, whether it has been sent or not, and what chronological order the messages are in.
Can't wait for the web interface to look the same.
While I have no vested interest in Gmail, using it sporadically and for nothing really all that important, I resent this penchant for GUI makeovers just for the sake of it. I am already familiar with the interface; I do not have the need or desire to become familiar with a new interface, which probably will allow me to do the same things, with pretty much the same level of ease or difficulty, only in a different way. I'd rather devote my time to learning other, more interesting and personally rewarding things. I am all for change and innovation, but with a purpose other than just change and innovation.
Same monkeys, new tree
Gmail has had a garbage UI for years. I just forward my gmail to where I can pick it up with Thunderbird, which still has a decent UI, probably because they simply haven't changed it that much in 20 years. (When they do, it's for the worse.) Sometimes lack of resources is a good thing. (Or, you can just get your gmail with POP, until they disable that, too.)
I avoid using mobile devices to read email, so I'm not beholden to crap-apps.
"The new Gmail We intercept even more of your personal data."
If they are going to make gmail as slow as their recently redesigned Calendar, I will be mad. I hate the slower calendar web page. It was better before. I really need to accelerate setting up my own groupware server. Any ideas for which open source projects I should try?
Malibu Stacy has a New Hat!
How else could crap like this get voted up to the front page?! Somebody! Please! Tell me!
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Any user interface that changes is automatically bad in my opinion. Innovation is a barrier to us mundane computer users that want to do a few basic tasks then move on with our life.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
UI designers are a cancer on the industry, and the death knell for so many formerly great applications. :(
A government is a body of people notably ungoverned - AC
Google should take a long hard look at its employee base and try to figure out who is behind the "remove functionality and flatten interface to win over young children and the elderly" campaign. They're destroying their products one by one.
A government is a body of people notably ungoverned - AC
To hell with that. I use alpine and fetchmail, and for good reason. It's one extra measure of control for me. And it's just as fast as it's always been.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
I don't think you need to prefix "-webkit-" on linear gradients anymore.
You gotta be crazy to use a "free" email service for anything. Email is $2/month.
I don't respond to AC's.
Will we finally be able to do simple things like sort by sender or subject? (and no filtering by either of those two is not the same thing)
Google's scripting has been obfuscated and "compressed to optimize bandwidth usage" for over a decade.
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Every time Google "improves" one of their products with a UI, it typically ends up:
1) Removing useful features
2) Reducing user customization
3) Hiding other features
4) Replacing things with stupid icons that mean nothing
5) Generally making things non-intuitive
6) Includes no help or manual
7) Adding more "social" sh** that I don't want and can't remove
I don't know about the typical user, but don't want "clean", I want "useful", "customization", and "powerful."
Oh, and it is not just Google, either...
although it might be wise to find a different server in the future, the email client would let me important mail I already have.
Will the issue of getting OTHER peoples emails in my Gmail inbox be fixed? If not, I still won't take them seriously as a useful service. It's for that reason I'd never trust them with sensitive emails. No telling WHO would get my email. This NEVER happens with the other two services I use, ONLY Gmail. Their algorithm is seriously borked.
"A Bird In The Hand Will Poop On Your Wrist"-Benny Hill,1982
WTF is Gmail being re-designed when they don't even understand _basic_ UI ?
Is this a trick question?
Why changing web design when current design is absolutely fine? I don't see people around me using Gmail ever complain about the "old" interface...
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