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In China's Booming Tech Scene, Women Battle Sexism and Conservative Values (reuters.com)
In recent years, even as China's tech industry has boomed, many women say they make far less than their male counterpart for the same job. An anonymous reader shares a report: Reuters spoke to more than a dozen women -- and some men -- in the sector, from entry-level employees to executives, who described an industry where female engineers and coders battle against ingrained biases favoring men. "The traditional view is simply to think that women aren't suitable to be programmers," said Chen Bin, a former Microsoft engineer and the Beijing-based founder of Teach Girls Coding, a campaign to get more women into the sector. "Things are better now than ten years ago, but overall the number of women getting into tech is really small," he said.
China is not the only country where the tech industry has faced heat over a lack of diversity in the workplace. But unlike U.S. peers that have faced legal action over discrimination, including Uber, Alphabet's Google and Microsoft, Chinese technology companies are relatively opaque about gender issues. Most give little data on hiring and none of the industry leaders share the diversity reports that are now customary in the United States, shedding doubt on whether women in Chinese firms hold a comparable number of technical or leadership roles.
China is not the only country where the tech industry has faced heat over a lack of diversity in the workplace. But unlike U.S. peers that have faced legal action over discrimination, including Uber, Alphabet's Google and Microsoft, Chinese technology companies are relatively opaque about gender issues. Most give little data on hiring and none of the industry leaders share the diversity reports that are now customary in the United States, shedding doubt on whether women in Chinese firms hold a comparable number of technical or leadership roles.
Obvious article is obvious. /. too!
See, I can write news on
But studies show that on many occasions women don't know what they are talking about.
Had to hear it for years from this side of the pond, now I have to listen to these fake stories from the other side of the pond?
From my observation, 99% of the time it was due to innate gender differences (guys will geek out over shit much more easily and spend an inordinate amount of time on it while even Asperger girls are more social than their male counterparts). As well as genders valuing different things and taking different career paths and willing to make different sacrifices.
But whatever, I'm sure I will get enough flak for my view here, but the last 20 years of fake Gamergate/Anita Sarkeesian bullshit was enough. Now I have to hear about it from China. Fuck you clickbait editors.
" Remember #gamergate?"
Yes, and I remember it started with a woman who made a game sleeping around with game reviewers, and getting outed for it by none other than one of her exes.
Apparently, you failed to be present at the beginning of the whole thing, so you're brainwashed by the false narratives put forth by Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, and more.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Ever heard of false rape accusations where the female accusers almost never get punished?
There are certainly CLAIMS of death threats recieved, generally by 3rd generation feminists who themselves have shown to be less than credible. So where is the proof of these death threats, were any of them in the least bit credible (even obscure youtubers get a number of them), and where are the convictions?
I think DNS-and-BIND doth white knight too much.
Yes, damn that Gamergate crowd for demanding that games be reviewed on their merit and not on the basis of what sexual favours the developer has offered the reviewer.
And yes, you should be moderated to -1 for your comment that misrepresents Gamergate. You apparently don't even know what it was about and seem to believe it was about Anita Sarkeesian. It's clear that you have preconceived ideas about Gamergate and have decided that gamers are a bunch of misogynists without even investigating what happened.
Obviously you assume that, in any situation involving a woman, the woman is always innocent and the men are always guilty. It is you who is the sexist.
and not dead like all the other no-son-yet daughters.
Can't speak as to technology companies but authoritarian government tends to result in more women in the workforce, China shows this trend.
So she is actually saying that women choose not to go into coding. There is no evidence that once they do, they are evaluated or treated unfairly.
Comparing to America? Why? It is supremely idiotic to believe America is some shining beacon of women's rights.
Compared to China, it is. America has its "#metoo" movement, while China has its "#woyeshi" movement. But there is a big difference: The Chinese women that have outed sexual abusers in powerful positions have nearly all done it from OUTSIDE CHINA, where they feel safe from retaliation. It is only after they have permanent residency overseas that they finally feel free to speak out.
Ever heard of false rape accusations where the female accusers almost never get punished?
This seems to be a common misconception.
In a rape case it is often very hard to prove what happened. There is often little or no evidence and witnesses. The standard for criminal convictions is "beyond a reasonable doubt" in most places and it can be quite hard to reach that bar.
But that also means that if the accused is found not guilty, it doesn't necessarily mean that the accuser lied, and even if they did it would have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt for them to be punished. Since most of these cases are just two opposing accounts of events being tested through questioning, it is rare for there to be provable lies that cannot be accounted for as poor memory or stress under questioning.
So the very same rules that are there to protect the accused also protect the accuser, even if the allegation is false.
Prosecutions for fake allegations, "perverting the course of justice" as it is known in the UK, and purgery do happen. But the bar for conviction has to be high, and has to be the same for everyone. Ironically you seem to be feeling the same frustration that rape victims often do, i.e. that it is so hard to prove and get a conviction.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Just stop.
If video games influenced behavior the Pac Man generation would be eating pills and running away from their problems.
There is gamergate related harassment today.
Check what happened to Vavra just because he was going to a game conference in Spain.
Harassment is pretty much alive.
Everything you just wrote is a lie.
actually he nailed the whole thing square on the head
It's hilarious to hear AMERICANS get up on a high horse about rights vs. CHINA, their ECONOMIC MASTERS.
TOPKEK.
Except....
They hate Netanyahu and the former Sharon even more
And they hate YOU for electing people who do their bidding even more than that
Think you are in a war with Islam?
Alll 1.6 billion of them?
No. and pray to your invisible sky daddy that it never comes to that.
Forgive the colloquialism
Word!!!
Erin Pizzey, the founder of the first shelter for the victims of domestic violence, had to run after getting death threats from the feminists for daring to state that violence is not a gender issue and more than 60% of women in her shelters where themselves violent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Now, applying "gamergate was about harassing some random people out there including those who have literally nothing to do with anything, bar being victims" logic, we can conclude, that feminist movement is about harassment.
Nascent Trumpism.
Girlfriend, if you haven't seen the evidence, you've had your hands placed firmly over your eyes the entire time.
People need to realize the financial scale of SJW business. Since mid 90th USA alone spends more than 1.5 billion dollars on fighting "domestic violence against women", a case founded on outhright lies, called out in Christina Sommer's book, "Who Stole Feminism". It's one out of endless government programs spent with zero or even negative effectiveness.
It isn't just someone out there with some crazy ideas, ignoring glaring evidence, it is mostly people and organizations who are paid for solving made up problems it is people who would lose their jobs if we finally figure what is going on.
This is Anita Sarkeesian endorsing Alex Mandossian. Alex Madnossian is basically a pick-up artist of Internet marketing. His attitude towards his victims is completely fucked up. He is a manipulative scammer and it is not hard to find the parallels in what Sarkeesian has been doing to get her position. That is a very manipulative and dishonest woman. It speaks volumes about you that you defend her.
Like a cat shedding fur all over the carpet ?
Perhaps you were looking for "casting doubt".
many women say they make far less than their male counterpart for the same job
They say, they think, they feel... But the point is. Is it true?
That any culture that doesn't have female engineers is thriving?
Moment UK got chem engineers mostly females - their chem industry went down hill, AFAIK, coincidence?
US has got all sorts of advantages for females in STEM. And their engineering force is getting worse compared to China's. Coincidence?
First, I'm atheist.
And second, Islamics have figured out long ago that it's too backwards to conquer by force. They just overrun their targets by invitation and as the country grows more and more Muslim, the louder they get, and the more we have to accomodate.
Until we wake up and find that Freedom of Speech contains an asterisk on portraying Mohammed or criticizing Allah.
Our own machinery will be used against us by people who don't care a wit about the enlightenment. And people like you will be cheering them on as the useful idiots cheered on communist takeovers until you found yourselfs put up against a wall and shot by the new regime once your utility has expired.
I don't wanna sound racist or anything, but unfortunately I think China will have a very long way 'till it gets even close to western countries on this matter, which is still not ideal.
Setting US aside, let's consider some european countries and whatnot. There are very few countries that are really getting there, but still not quite.
Currently, China as a society has evolved at unprecedented speeds in comparison to the history of evolution of other societies.
I still remember a time when China was mostly rural, exporting mostly primary resources, and didn't have much in the way of technology to talk about. This was the case not that long ago. If you are too young to remember this, probably your parents will know.
Over just a few decades, less than a lifetime, China went rushing through industrial revolution, raising extremely modern metropolis in cities formerly pretty run down and primitive, and now the country is activelly participating at the forefront of technology and research in some areas.
Some people might not realize this, but it's because lots of people don't really know China. There are cities there that are basically on par with Japan in terms of technology, public transportation, technology in common spaces and whatnot. There are research areas like biomedicine and genetics that China is arguably ahead. Read some of the recent news... China just launched a communication probe in space to aid a mission that will be launched still this year to explore the dark side of the moon.
It's crazy how fast it has evolved. It almost doesn't make sense when you think about the comparison on how technology evolves versus societies.
But all that has a huge side effect. China did not evolve uniformly, these transformations had and still has huge costs, and of course things are not that simple.
It became a country of enormous contrasts. You have cities that look like Tokyo or modern european capitals, while you have towns in the countryside with people starving and living a life of subsistence. You have billionaires and huge investment groups that are among the richest in the world while you have multitude of workers slaving away to a state they prefer suicide instead of living like that. Most of western societies also have huge wage gaps and inequalities, but it kinda pales in comparison to China when looking at extremes.
Sexism can't be seen and treated in isolation, and people should not have some fantasy that it's gonna be solved anytime soon there because there are major shifts yet to happen before it even starts being addressed.
Remember people, China is a country where not that long ago, baby boys were hugely favored over baby girls. And this is a cultural phenomena that endured over decades.
https://www.theguardian.com/wo...
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/0...
This is a huge problem that cannot be solved in few years time, and it has massive cultural effects. Because it effectively created an artificial distortion... there are way more men than women in China when compared to proportions of other countries.
It's not only China too, it's just something that happens a lot in poor countries or developing countries all over the world.
https://www.npr.org/sections/g...
http://www.ibtimes.com/deadly-...
Even though some of these countries don't necessarily have a majority of people of faith in patriarcal religions and systems, it's just a matter of favoring boys because of base manual labor necessities and a prejudiced view that comes with it. The concept also became ingrained in culture, so up to this decade the tendency still remains.
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How the fuck do you think "real rape" it's easy to prove?
Finland literally just had a case where man sat in prison for nine months for rape before his accuser according to the biggest newspaper in the country "found God and confessed to the police that she lied about it".
He's still fighting in court to get his criminal record expunged of this. She was just given a small fine, told to return some of the money he had to pay her for her suffering and a suspended sentence with some community service on top of it. She won't spend a day in jail over this.
https://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/art-...
Welcome to progressive concept of "equality" of sexes, where there's the arbeit macht frei men and ubermensch women.
[1st Daily Reminder] - The Gender Pay Gap is a misnomer and doesn't exist, and the real term is Redistribution Pay Gap where a percentage of salary from irrelevant women is redistributed into the hands of women who matter in our lives: Grandmothers, Mothers, Wives/GFs, Daughters, Sisters even. Therefore it has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with prioritization.
[2nd Daily Reminder] - Feminism is a scam to brainwash you into selling yourself as free labor, slave labor, to random women unrelated to you who are not the grandmother who took care of you, the mother who fed and clothed you, the wife/GF who loves you, the sister who is bonded to you by blood. They are instead crazy bitches who either look down upon you or hate you like most feminists, or parasites looking to suck your limited lifespan and energy to their benefits when you could be doing better things with the limited lifespan you have.
[3rd Daily Reminder] - Western white women should be banned/excluded from Feminism. Western white women are 80% of the economic spending/wasting force, spending/wasting and buying what was ill-gotten from Colonialism and Imperialism. Served on a silver platter to them over the ages by the white men who died to feed into the white female Princess/Queen Complex. The reason the western white female is the face of Feminism is that they were struck with fear once minorities started rising up demanding reparation, and to avoid paying reparation and giving up their western white female wealth and inheritance, they formed Feminism to invent victimhood for themselves through any possible scam, deceit, trick, blackmail, and way that can be conceived which would detract minorities from demanding what they are due. Therefore white whores should be excluded from all matters and opinion-giving on feminism, with only women from the rest of the world qualified.
As usual, SJW-ism has an effect of demonetization and loss of trust from the normal majority consumers, leading to loss.
- FreeBSD suddenly forcibly coercing/demanding from users to become political "ambassadors" by a Code of Conduct copy pasted from some feminist wiki, completely unrelated to the object of the community or their initial interests in becoming part of it. Result? Skilled staff loss.
- SJW publications such as Salon forced into adwall.
- The GNOME Foundation running short on money because they wasted it on a "Outreach Program for Women".
- Ayo.js forked themselves from node.js over a white male. They spent a lot of time on making sure everyone declared their preferred pronouns and setting up a CoC and working on such fine slogans like "Humans before technology" and making a logo.
Almost NO actual programmers joined and after a couple of months this became obvious since the changes brought by the project were comical and completely lacking in any showcase of programming education, and the thing started to lose steam.
So despite all these stupid articles from polygon and gizmodo about the impending doom of node.js, Ayo.js is dead after 5 months.
- Firefox seeing a continual loss of support from its userbase because Mozilla misappropriated donations for Firefox into social justice socio-political bullcrap, because if users wanted to donate into such garbage they would have gone to specialized organizations and not Mozilla where they expect that funding a piece of software funds that and only that.
- GitHub. Go to the explore page and you'll see it overtaken by "a showcase of diverse developers" which is just a list of black women and white knights either doing simple ruby crap or writing ideas in text files on a repo and calling themselves developers.
Form over function, outnumbering of normal developers who do what they do best by idiotic rainbow-goggle SJWs who care more about changing wording to please their little virtue-signaling egos than making anything functional. Their mantra: "I'm a programmer if i feel like it, not if i know how to program."
Examples keep on appearing exponentially with each day.
- Hasbro for example managed to bankrupt the GI Joe brand by employing SJW writers into their comic, ruining the brand value.
- Marvel keeps losing money over the new female "muh womyn power" Captain Marvel, who keeps being rehashed and forced in apparent desperation yet keeps failing and not making returns.
- Disney's Star Wars has now lost trust among prop sellers, a first in the brand's history. Shelves are filled with unsold TLJ "womyn powa" toys which are going to be written off as a major financial loss for both the sellers and Disney. Now sellers have no alternative but to scrutinize all future Disney's Bolshevik marketing projections and force increased costs on Disney as a risk tax. Disney even lost a potential market of 1.3 billion people in China which cites "Baizuo" and "Low IQ (SJW) writing" as critiques.
- Video Game developers appealing to a vocal minority of SJW's who don't even pay for games but rather gather around a single "representative" professional critic/influencer via bubbled social contacts to engage in mob criticism/coercion, who are merely there to support that one career critic against products they don't even care about; resulting in a loss of the core majority of consumers and a net loss in revenue due to appeal to vocal minority over majority.
It's like the religious preachers who exist to preach against products they don't use with fellow church member mobs, yet who are mistaken in ignorance by the object of criticism as consumers.
A reminder also that over 80% of threats and bullying against women on the Internet comes from other women, a simple scroll through social media platforms and shitflinging on their selfies from other women always sufficing as examples. Feminist deceit only shifts the paradigm from the real problem - themselves.
SHit like that is very easy to prove.
Woman who ants not sex has to move away aggressively, so physical strength has to be used to confine her.
If man holds hand strong enough there will be physical damage to hand. Which can be used as evidence.
Because its listen and believe clearly innocent man go to jail today. What happened to, 'if we catch 20 criminals and one of them is not guilty'? Do we still let them all go or what?
Keep going LALALA with your hands over your ears. You are pathetic.
Ironically you seem to be feeling the same frustration that rape victims often do, i.e. that it is so hard to prove and get a conviction.
Good observation.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
When it only is happening in the Tech Scene, it means that it is not happening anywhere else.
Or has tech Scene added so it would be more likely to being posted on /. ? Because I somehow doubt that the tech scene is in any way different from any other scene.
Writing it to be just about the tech scene removes from the importance of the real issue.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN0B4mOtwX0
If you look at Gayles videos most comments are about her looks and guys feeling insecure because she a woman and might know better than them. There used to be ALOT of harassing comments on her videos that seemed to have been disappeared. But shes pretty well respected and you can see a whole bunch of noobs disrespecting her. Just think a little about that and you can extrapolate to other qualified women who are getting harassed in industry.
In some EU contries, critizice the king and see what happens. And it's the alt-right conservatives enforcing it.
That "asterisk" has existed long before all of these.
However I think they have other more pressing priorities than coding. Last time I checked men can't have babies and for women who want to figure out if they want kids they have to have everything in place before they're 35 at the very latest before it becomes dangerous for them to give birth.
So I'm gonna suggest that maybe, at the time of peak neuroplasticity when men can take their time to master IT, women have to answer a fundamental question and factor if their career path is compatible with having children. Let's work the numbers. Young woman completes degree by 21-22 years old, get's entry level jobs, has no set backs works for 8 years getting good, in demand OH OH 30. Do you want to continue your IT career or have children? Not impossible, just really really hard work and the women that I have met with both are married to guys in IT who understand how to support them because they are cool women, not demanding entitled brats.
For the women I've met in IT who could get past that and do IT work, they were exceptional, great to work with because they were good at what they do and committed. When gender, sexuality, ethnicity and all the rest of the bullshit falls away you get to meet exceptional people which is the thing I liked about IT for a along time until someone came and told me there was a problem because no one was expecting the nerds to take over the world.
So to those seeking equal representation for women in IT let's see you push equal representation for women in mining, logging, riggers, sewer workers, road workers, roofers, builders or many of the other shitty crappy physically demanding fucked up dangerous jobs that men do and get paid more for because they are jobs that truly SUCK. I'm told women can do anything men can so let's get some equality there too!
Seriously, someone please tell me what female is going to be interested in coding, operating systems and databases when they are 15, 25, 35, 45? Tell me how her peers will treat her? Doesn't mean they can't or won't but let's nip down to Sephora with the latest copy of "Programming Python" and explain to them just how cool it would be to program in python and see how that goes down.
Yep - mod me troll for pointing out reality.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
There is a difference between allegations that are very hard to prove (which is most of them), and rape allegations that are later retracted, which are also quite common, and often do go unpunished. Motives for the false allegation in these retraction cases are well-researched, in multiple countries. Most common is to provide an alibi (covering up adultery or skipping school), and less common is retroactively relabeling what happened, to get sympathy or attention, or for material gain. Some people even file false allegations repeatedly for attention. In for instance alibi cases the accuser may be pressured by others to go to the police or give up the alibi, and regret the consequences of sticking to the alibi later.
See for instance De Zutter, A. W. E. A., Horselenberg, R., & van Koppen, P. J. (2018). Motives for Filing a False Allegation of Rape. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 47(2), 457–464. http://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-017-0951-3
What "conservative values" are they battling? Sexism isn't a conservative value you twat.
Iâ(TM)ve never heard of anyone that described themself as alt-right that didnâ(TM)t enshrine free speech as one of the foremost things they wish to preserve.
I have lived and worked in China for a number of years, though I am not Chinese. At two large multi-nationals (who ought to know better) I saw numerous instances where positions earmarked for women were filled with young/single/attractive candidates rather than even take interviews from women who appeared to have the most relevant resumes. And that was trivial to pull off since most of the candidates (men and women) put their pictures, age, and marital status on their resume since that is the norm in China.
Why does their modding down have to be from gamergaters? I was going to mod the above post down despite having absolutly no love for those trolls as the post is just blatant flamebait or perhaps off topic. While there is still more to be done towards gender equality in the US, we're not that bad, especially when compared to the vast majority of Asian nations.
More importantly though, it just makes sense to compare the US and China on such things. China is the emerging super power and the US is the established one. It makes for a compelling comparison. Comparing China to Iceland (top ranked by the UN for gender equality) isn't going to generate the interest that a comparison to the US will.
The article is a comparison between super powers on gender equality
Maybe think outside the PC box sometimes.
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had to run after getting death threats from the feminists for daring to state that violence is not a gender issue
That's double irony:
- As feminist, they should be compelled to prove that women are equally violent than man, thus having no reason to threaten her
- And by threatening her, they prove that violence is not only a male issue, thereby proving her point
> "Online mobs regularly go after any woman who dares stand up for herself"
Online mobs regularly go after people who dare stand up for themselves.
FTFY.
Do you honestly believe no one attacks men on the internet? If you ignore attacks on men then, yes, women get attacked more, but why ignore attacks on men? Is it okay to attack men?
According to your own link she had received a similar jail sentence to the accused, and much larger fines. Since the accused's conviction is still pending revocation then presumably this is not the end of the compensation he will receive (I don't know about Finland but in the UK there is compensation for wrongful imprisonment, loss of earnings, consequential losses etc. from the state).
Presumably there will also be a review to determine what went wrong and to prevent it happening again. Those involved may be sanctioned. This is far from over.
Look, mistakes are going to be made in any criminal justice system. It's impossible to have a 100% perfect system. A single anecdote is worthless though, what we need to see is data showing how often this happens. It's also important to look at how the situation is corrected, so it might be useful to know how quickly his conviction will be removed and what the total amount of compensation will be.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I'd like to remind everyone that the claim about sexual favours in exchange for positive reviews or coverage is a long debunked lie.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Comparing to America? Why? It is supremely idiotic to believe America is some shining beacon of women's rights.
Have you been to the rest of the world?
Online mobs regularly go after any woman who dares stand up for herself. Hate speech and death threats are common. Remember #gamergate?
...apparently not.
Ezekiel 23:20
It turned out that the original shitstorm was exactly that, a shitstorm. But perhaps not too surprisingly, the issue of substandard journalism reappeared in other cases - not too surprisingly because the so-called "game journalists" unsurprisingly don't really have WaPo or NYT-level credentials, nor skills, nor level of integrity.
Ezekiel 23:20
I put my photo on my resume.
At vidcon 2017 Anita Sarkeesian proved herself to be a terrible person. And I'm not talking about the unprovoked attack she made on Sargon and his crowd, as that's arguably warranted. No, I'm talking about the unprovoked attack she did to one of her fellow panelists about internet bullying because he dared to say that "I'm sure men don't get it as bad as women, but men do still get it". Yeah, I can't remember the guys name but saw a video he posted in response and he'd spent two days running it past people to see if there'd be anything that might be offensive to women, they all said no, but she still attacked him, because she's a terrible person. Even more damning was the third parties who witnessed it and said how fucked up it was that she'd do such a thing.
What's funny is, by the SJW definition of rape, women have raped me. Seriously. They say "if you're too drunk to drive, you're too drunk to consent". Laci Green touts that one all the time. Well, I'll have gone out, gotten drunk to the point where I don't feel it's safe to drive, the women I've been with have not had anything to drink, go home and sleep together.
Oddly enough, despite the SJW definition of rape, I personally don't feel I've been raped as I consented at the time, as did they. And it was a good time.
Where is the line between fabricated sexism and actual sexism?
Fabricated sexism: Women complaining about being paid less for 35 hours than men get paid for 48 hours.
Actual sexism: Paying men the same for 48 hours as women get paid for 35 hours.
>Promote female genitalia mutilation
While most muricans see mutilating boys as normal...
I think that's a large part of government spending in general and not limited to the social justice crowd. Look at the various military contractors or education in general to realize that nearly everyone's got their fingers in the pot. Various other subsidies in the form of tax breaks amount to similarly large figures. Government spending as a % of GDP is slowly creeping up towards levels seen during the second world war.
Not that you really need to debunk this. It's simply irrelevant. People like Sarkesian simply engage in selective outrage. They see women being treated the same as men and screech discrimination. Her own complaints of games are a classic example of this.
She reviews a murder simulator and screeches "women are being abused".
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
> Girlfriend, if you haven't seen the evidence, you've had your hands placed firmly over your eyes the entire time.
People that defy Sturgeon's law move up quickly and get paid well. It doesn't matter what they have between their legs. The professional offended class has just convinced one group of losers that they have something besides themselves to blame.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
This seems to be a common misconception.
In a rape case it is often very hard to prove what happened. There is often little or no evidence and witnesses. The standard for criminal convictions is "beyond a reasonable doubt" in most places and it can be quite hard to reach that bar.
No, that's not the reason false rape accusers get away with it at all, as could be easily demonstrated:
Girl made false accusation of rape after her ex-boyfriend rejected her
As far as punishment goes, there is a which is, of course, overlooked, for reasons not that widely known and even contrary to the mainstream narrative.
It's just not perceived as such a big problem (as made up statements about such false accusations "rarely happening" were repeated so many times, people started to believe it was true).
Fabricated sexism is when you are uneducated about basic economics and don't have the basic literacy and common sense to understand that a general statistic is a result of a sum of individual statistics averaged out. Because you are incapable of comprehending this and lack education, and because mathematics is a Patriarchal mind-control weapon, you proceed to refer to a generalized gender pay gap as discrimination just because it is a gap without analyzing whether the majority of components that went into that statistics are actual discrimination or circumstantial and therefore legitimate and fair.
Now, most Economist Feminists have already churned the numbers and statistics, because they have actual education and degrees in economics, much like Thomas Sowell has; and it has been concluded that not even 10% of the cases that sum up the gender pay gap constitute discrimination or are discriminatory, meaning 90% of the gender pay gap is fair and valid.
The actual sexism is the voices of uneducated stupid feminist masses which constitute the majority out-voicing the educated economists (their own even) because they don't even understand how the gender pay gap and basic statistics work, because there's a financial incentive here to act like a retard.
Presumably there will also be a review to determine what went wrong and to prevent it happening again.
What is the point of pushing the narrative that is demonstrably false? Jesus:
The woman who made false rape allegations against a Texas DPS trooper will not face any additional charges.
Girl made false accusation of rape after her ex-boyfriend rejected her
Woman Who Lied to Police About 3 Black Men Raping and Kidnapping Her Faces Zero Years in Prison
Woman who made false rape complaint receives suspended sentence
I grew in USSR and women were not half of the scientists.
In math/physics fields they were in minority, somewhat less so in Chemistry.
USSR's Academy of Science was nearly completely male.
There were plenty of female engineers (about 60% if I recall it right), but it was also because that profession was paid poorly.
That's a completely different phenomena.
But good job twisting "oppression" in. Perhaps you could explain us this graph:
https://youtu.be/EqUtgFBWezE?t...
I think you misspelled Jews.
yada yada. It's the same everywhere. Stop trying to make China out like some evil sexist and misogynistic empire. Do you want to know where the real problem is? Try comparing rape statistics of f.ex. America and China, and then rethink your stupid article.
it's just a matter of favoring boys because of base manual labor necessities
When I was in the Andes, all you saw plowing the fields were women (often with babies on their backs) while all the men were at the nearby bar...
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So - guilty, even if not found guilty. And of course the ruined reputation and life because of it.
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
Try to be a conservative on most of the Internet, or nearly any university. And male. And white. Strike out before even opening your mouth. It's perfectly OK to attack anyone today, provided they are not a perceived minority (regardless of actual demographic representation), and the more "minority" they are, the more they are to be protected from attacks - and the freer they are to attack others.
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
It's because politicians realized they may be able to secure the votes of the majority (women - who out-number men in the US) by pandering to them. So drop a few billion dollars and try to buy the votes of women by pulling at their emotional strings... Effectively using the very thing they are supposedly "fighting" to garner votes to keep themselves in power.
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
Also men make up 92% of workplace deaths. Let's pay equally when everyone dies equally.
Thanks for the opinion, Ahmed. It's prayer time though. Get out your little prayer mat.
Uhhh no. Zoe did in fact fuck at least 5 guys (she admitted it), and at least one of them then wrote a glowing review for her text adventure game (he admitted it).
No amount of hand waving or false proclamations of debunking will ever wipe away that stain, nor will it absolve sniveling complicit enablers like you.
And DIAF!
Have you considered maybe you hate women so much because youre a closeted homosexual in a country that encourages three minutes of hate against everyone else? BIGLY urafag bro!
Cmon. Every retarded American knows that!
We need the wood for the fire..
Boohoo. Youre so fucking hard done by. Crt a fucking river. Go on...
Feminism doesn't own the copyright to the concepts of gender or equality, nor does it represent all women with implications of a simpleminded mindhive, therefore criticism of a shitty corrupt brand organization is not the same as criticism against all women, so your mindless blather is invalid and irrelevant.
Not true. The specific journalist that started it all was fired fro RockPaperShotgun for his conduct then RPS deleted everything and banned all discussion about it, throwing rocket fuel on the fire of unprofessionalism and spawning GamerGate.
Make whatever claims you like, let your other accounts give you modpoints all you like, reality stays the same. Some of us care to acknowledge that and see your acts of obfuscation and lies as immoral.
Nothing but trouble!
Pretext is pretext. Neutralize accordingly.
None of these stories are about Finland, and all of them actually support my point!
Texas story: Allegation made, no actual complaint or charges, at most it's a civil matter (slander) so why would there be criminal charges? Sounds like you want them to criminalize speech!
Ex-boyfriend: She WAS charged and admitted it (i.e. convicted)! She admitted wasting police time. That's a criminal offence. In fact the last line of the article notes that she is awaiting sentencing for her crime. You are proving that the system works!
3 black guys: She took a plea deal. As the article notes she plead guilty to "two third-degree felony counts of tampering with physical evidence, a third-degree felony count of tampering with a government record and a state-jail felony count of tampering with a government record". As well as a criminal record, she got 8 years probation, $10,000 in fines and 160 hours community service. https://www.dallasnews.com/new...
Israel: Again, suspended sentence.
What is your point here, that the punishment isn't harsh enough?
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Anita also vented out at Boogie2988 (Francis). Boogie of all the fucking people in the world, Buddha himself in a way.
That's when she really kicked an iron wall, the dumb fraud.
If you thought she was "screeching" in her videos, you should check your equipment because it's fucked.
Anyway, her actual complaint about Hitman and other "murder simulators" like Far Cry wasn't really anything to do with women being abused. In fact both of those videos were about women being used as background decoration and for cheap thrills, not the actual violence.
She doesn't really mind the violence it seems. Some of the games she points to as examples of good female characters are violent, and I recall she said once that female characters in fighting games are not an issue per-se because they have agency and fight for themselves rather than being damseled etc.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Recently there was a study that came out that made it not so clear that there's a huge male to female imbalance. https://news.ku.edu/2016/11/22/study-finds-chinas-missing-girls-theory-likely-far-overblown It's said that there could be 25M-30M girls who were not reported to the government. If that's true, than the ratio is closer to 1:1 versus something ridiculously askew. Of course, by not registering these females, many went uneducated, although since this occurred mainly in the rural areas, perhaps not the worse thing that could have happened. Also China is not more than likely to get rid of its 2-child policy as well, and allow people to have as many children as they want, since the 2 child policy didn't change much of anything in terms of creating more pregnancies.
Exactly what female rights are we looking for here. As of now, by law, females in many cities are given longer periods for maternity leave than other Western countries. You also can't fire easily a pregnant female worker, etc. These laws are getting more enforced daily.
None of these stories are about Finland
So? When did it have to be only from Finland?
and all of them actually support my point!
Which is what, exactly? You said many things in your posts. Be specific.
Texas story: Allegation made, no actual complaint or charges, at most it's a civil matter (slander) so why would there be criminal charges?
The claim wasn't she had to be charged or not.
The GP quoted this from you: "Presumably there will also be a review to determine what went wrong and to prevent it happening again."
So the citation is to demonstrate that there's this woman who did something bad, but there would be no charges and, presumably, NO further review to prevent it from happening again.
The same goes for your response to the other cases.
That you claim "the system works" for the ex-boyfriend would actually support HIS point that no review is being done (because people like you say the system works, implying we don't need reviews or improvements)
"there's nothing quite so trollish as demanding evidence that someone accused of doing all sorts of bad things (e.g. Anita Sarkeesian) actually did them!"
"Damore's document is so bad, the only arguments left to fans are spurious claims that "you didn't read it""
I'm not on anyone's side in all this, except that if someone does bad things, that is wrong, gender, race, sexual orientation, political orientation, wealth, anything, should not enter into it.
I agree,
if you accuse Anita of doing wrong, where is the evidence?
if you accuse James of doing wrong, where is the evidence?
I expect a defensive reply. I would probably consider doing the same.
I ask you to consider within yourself, have your internal biases led you to condone or over attack something on things other than the evidence?
Yes, and I remember it started with a woman who made a game sleeping around with game reviewers, and getting outed for it by none other than one of her exes.
And because of this, she deserves death threats? What the actual fuck?
Whether or not you "feel raped" doesn't change the fact that what happened to you was NOT OKAY and was without *meaningful* consent. Meaningful being the key word.
Look at MEEEEEE !
I took WIMMINS STUDIES not COMPUTER SCIENCE and NO-ONE WILL HIRE ME !
I'm a VICTIM !!!!!!
Some chi.com women battle sexism and ... some get fucked. Pick yo poison.
I put my photo on my resume.
Are you American? If so, at many companies your resume will be automatically discarded.
Forcing Chinese tech companies to have more diversity would be great news for tech companies in Western countries.
No, and AC didn't say or insinuate that at all. Fuck off, you professional victim.
At once? Pics or it didn't happen.
Perhaps in an alternate reality where the sky is purple and grass is red. On this planet though, Gamergate was just a bunch of incel trolls angry at women.
... where those conservative Hollywood people are abusing women.
Oh, wait !! Those guys are campaign sponsors of the Democrats !!
Whoops
Yes, damn that Gamergate crowd for demanding that games be reviewed on their merit and not on the basis of what sexual favours the developer has offered the reviewer.
Wow the gamergate crowd is still sore. I guess that's why you have nothing to od but sit around in your mother's basements stewing over threads and spending all your modpoints shouting people down.
so tell me, Mr Ac and the cowardly mods who omdded this up where is the slightest shred of evidence that Anita Sareesian (who I singled out in my post) gave any sexual favours to anyone?
And yes, you should be moderated to -1 for your comment that misrepresents Gamergate.
Ah yes the old -1 truth mod. I know it well.
You apparently don't even know what it was about and seem to believe it was about Anita Sarkeesian. It's clear that you have preconceived ideas about Gamergate and have decided that gamers are a bunch of misogynists without even investigating what happened.
I watched the whole thing unfold at the time. they are a bunch of rampant myisogynists.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
No, REAL sexism is whining that women are actually standing for their rights.
Anyway, her actual complaint...
The actual complaint was that gamers weren't willing to provide and support her SJW platform. Many, myself included, decided that her complaints have nothing to do with gaming, and we are here to just enjoy video games.
So SJWs demanded for the games to be reviewed based on a merit. Then MRA snowflakes went up in a tizzy. After all, they are awfully offended that around 50% of humanity doesn't consider "a lot of big boobs" to be meritorious.
This is correct. ALSO this was not the reason why gamergate started. Gamergate started because when people where trying to talk about it they were being banned from the conversation in multiple venues, because the people in charge where friends with her ans where trying to silence any negative press.
Have you actually seen the videos? Nothing you say seems to have anything relating to her work.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I'm just not overly concerned with a violent 120 lb woman. Yeah, every now and then they get a gun, but not often enough that I worry about it. Even a knife isn't that big a problem. Sure, getting cut sucks, but I can pick up a chair and use my longer arms to greater strength to safely overpower someone a foot shorter and 100lbs lighter.
Now, if _I_ get violent the opposite is not true. Imagine living in a world where 50% of the population is significantly stronger than you and where a lot of them have designs on your body. Now imagine you're well enough educated to know how you would have been treated a scant 50 years ago. Or how you'd be treated right now if you'd been born in Saudi Arabia.
It's a very, very different perspective.
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You're not fooling anyone. We all know you're an incel.
And I've never heard of anyone that described themselves as alt-right that didn't admit to thinking "free speech" should be punishable by death for anyone not promoting white nationalist views. As usual, they project their own crimes upon their enemies while whining and crying about what victims they are.
We will never agree on this, and I see no point rehashing arguments. Everything there is to say was said many times.
At this point it is clear that SJWs were less than zero effective with GG, not only did they not reach any of the stated goals, Sarkesian episode and GG trained gamers to widely distrust SJWs in any context. GG was Pyrrhic victory for SJW and likely marks beginning of the end. I am proud of my role in it, however small and insignificant it was.
She was [...] told to return some of the money he had to pay her for her suffering
I notice two things from this. Firstly, she was told to return *some* of the money he had paid her. What the heck? Why not all of it?
Secondly: apparently, in Finland, if someone is found guilty of rape they are required to pay money to their alleged victim. This is a horrible idea: it gives people a financial incentive to accuse others of rape!
Butthurt arises when reality proves your fantasies wrong. AmiMojo is provably correct, and you are proven wrong. Nobody cares about how butthurt you are over it. Stop being an incel and maybe women won't find you repulsive.
Seriously, the fact there are gender imbalances in employment in IT in every major industrialized country is old news. More interestingly the article seems to want us to unanimously agree that is a bad thing. I personally agree that it is , but I'm also smart enough to know that my belief that women should be treated with equal dignity to men is a direct result of my Judeo-christian value system and that such a system is far from universal.
So, the reason I claim women should be given equal dignity of treatment under the law , is because they are like men, images of God, even that is an argument for equal dignity not necessarily identical treatment. Only in the west have to two become so confused that many people don't understand the difference in definitions.
Can I get a Buddhist, a Hindu a Muslim and an atheist to give me a good reason from their philosophical standpoint that women should be treated with the same dignity and fairness as men.
I know there is no such reason from an atheistic standpoint,because there is no such thing as right and wrong in that philosophy simply those with power , those without and those who complain about it.
I'm pretty sure the Muslim philosophy would not uphold equality of the sexes and various grounds. If I'm wrong please correct me and quote the koran.
What about Buddhism and Hindi? I'm less educated on these. They have female and male Gods correct? but does that say anything at all about the ethics of proper treatment? and if so why isn't it reflected in traditional Hindu and Buddhist society?
âoeTolerance applies only to persons, but never to truth. Intolerance applies only to truth, but never to persons.
Empowered women, don't see the problem.
Probably the men were resting at the bar after doing the same job or worse in less time.
I am, but I wouldn't even consider working at a Chinese company anyway.
It's interesting that you label all the values as "conservative" even though they have no relation to the western notion of such. This shows that "conservative" is purely a label for your out group.
You're battling Chinese values, in China here. I disagree with more than a few of them myself, but let's not pretend there's some over-archiving "conservative" ideal that exists everywhere, except insofar as you wish to replace all ideals with your own.
Muslims ARE alt-right. Asterisk looks like a chocolate star.
In spite of all that you wrote, there are actual documented cases where rape accusations are determined to be 100% false, and yet the false accuser faces no charges.
Funny how you totally sidestepped that contingency.
When the only tool you have is a claw hammer every problem starts to look like the back of someone's skull.
GG was Pyrrhic victory for SJW
Huh? When did SJW "won" over GG?
I see gaming is still full of the sexism and sexist tropes Anita and other SJWs complain about in games (they're still making Marios and Zeldas, and I haven't heard of them suddenly making Mario or Link into a WOC or something). I do think instead of western games full of SJW values, more and more people are taking interest in Asian games where they don't share those values, and if anything dial sexist tropes up to the eleven.
I haven't heard of any prominent figures in GG being arrested or charged for all the supposed harassment and death threats they made (but I did hear about some anti-GGers who turned out to have skeletons in their closet, and were arrested/charged)
Did the gaming journalism who antagonized GG won? Wait no Gawker died. A bunch of sites had to revisit their ethical guidelines (inb4 AmiMojo tries to spin that as just a gesture. Look, the fact you even blinked to the supposed sexist d-bags at GG means the terrorists have won.)
In the grand scheme of things, did society as a whole shifted more towards pro-feminism, pro-SJW, pro-Progressive values? Well... Trump won. Brexit voted to leave.
Is their "victory" simply that not too many people bring up GG these days? Dude, that's like... winning an argument on the Internet. That's not much of an accomplishment (see: meme that it's like winning in the special olympics... now I just triggered a bunch of SJWs because I used differently abled people as a joke!)
I am, but I wouldn't even consider working at a Chinese company anyway.
No, I mean many American companies will auto-reject any resume with a photo. Hiring someone with a photo on their resume leaves them open to charges of bias.
Even NOT hiring someone with a photo is bad because the applicant can sue and claim bias, since you saw their race and age. But if you have an auto-reject policy, you avoid that trap.
If you are an American applying at American companies, including a photo on your resume is a bad idea.
Beyond a reasonable doubt isn't that important if the standard mens rea required is negligence.
What rights? Last I checked getting a paycheck is not a right. You want equal pay? Ask or sue.
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Actually, equal paycheck IS a right in the US. Learn your civics.
Cool links, bro. Too bad the one about the black rape gang gave me brain cancer.
Is this guy just being a troll or something? Surely it's a troll. Anyone who 'watched the whole thing unfold' would know the woman was Zoe Quinn, not Anita.
Furthermore, many people abused many other people, from both sides. This doesn't change the fact, a VERY large portion of people were pissed at 1 or both of the following things.
1, being accused of being sexist *for simply asking 'what is going on'* effectively. It was either YOU'RE WITH US SCREECHING OR AGAINST US, any questions, any investigation, any queries of 'what's this about' resulted in being 'thrown in the pit' and created a shitload of gamergaters.
2, (somewhat related to 1) corrupt gaming media, either lying, misrepresenting, accusing or whatever when it comes to the whole situation. It was a clusterfuck of lies and misrepresentation and I firmly believe it's part of why people don't like the media now. Elon Musk, PewDiePie, half of Youtube, people are mocking the media because they are not to be trusted.
THIS very informative video outlines some of the issue. The media colluding together ALL on the same day to try and 'punch down' on all gamers for being scummy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rouq-VdgXdo
Ah, man here. Pointing out that we bungle up shit and off ourselves at work at a higher rate isnâ(TM)t the upsell you think it is. Please stop fragging your teammates.
How do you know you are better than Asia? Assumption? Based on what?
A data point to consider. The popular view in Europe, both among the popolous and the powers that be is that Eastern European contries are not as progressive as the West, including the whole sex equality thing....
It's not true thought. Yes you have my word for it, so whatever but think - people in Europe are that ignorant about their neighbors. Assumptions about Asia? Ha!
"Actual documented cases", it's just that you can't actually cite of any of them.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
China does have many aspects of its culture that have yet to be improved, but it seems that regarding women in STEM related fields they actually might be better than the Americans in that regard. Sure, size plays a factor, but that can also apply to instances of sexism in China. In any case, its not like America is much different with regard to female leaders and participation in tech; actually, China might be ahead there too, if some recent news articles are to be believable, and especially if Chinese immigrants are taken into equation.
From what I gather from my Chinese acquaintances, in general STEM fields are seen as appealing educational paths to study in, regardless of gender. Not to mention, many of the math and science teams from schools around here (granted, this is on the West coast) have no shortage of talented female members. In 1922, Bertrand Russell mentioned in a treatise on how the Chinese university seemed to illustrate a much higher degree of equality than would be expected. In the middle of the 20th century it was very much possible that China was much more supportive of women's advancement than the West. I guess the general urge to make progress may have ended up dissolving traditional gender stereotypes along the way in any case. There is not much use insisting on having women perform restrictive gender rolesã when the nation was in very dire need of their services. After all, as en vogue as the unenlightened practice of foot binding was at the time during the days of imperial China, the horse-riding Manchu princesses saw no need for such a crippling impediment to the cultural practices they would engage in.
Of course, that is not to disregard the very real issues of old traditions favoring male heirs and protecting sexual assault perpetrators of status. Also, the governing Party tends to be predominantly Han males, although that is more than just an issue of gender. I don't mean to apologize for China as some sort of beacon of equality or something like that, but for a formerly feudal nation with strict patriarchical institutions I am inclined to think that China has made trememdous progress. (INB4 wumao) The demeaning activities occuring at those companies are reprehensible, but it is likely that those are common occurrences in numerous high school parties in America, where even the idea of women taking forays into supposedly male roles in STEM seems to engender hostility, something which does not seem to be a thing in Chinese society-there's that stereotype of the tiger-parents expecting the thought of not doing so to be simply unthinkable-whether sons, daughters, or everything in between. Alternately, it could be that as China lifts itself up from its developing status, the ideal roles paradoxically may regress, as no longer does necessity render gender preassumptions ridiculous in the circumstances prevailing. From the current rhetoric of the CCP though, it seems that though they promote the adulation of Chinese culture, they still maintain the prior principles of gender equality; the need for skilled citizens in an increasingly globalized world would also seem to render any regression particularly unhelpful to a country's potential. In addition, as with numerous large countries, attitudes vary from region to region; no doubt in some villages, rural prefectures, or fundamentalist-adherent Islamic the expectation is still for women to (there was an article on this topic) marry and play the role of the housewife, but in the developing parts of China it is more likely that a daughter not educated in a prestigious university, or not studied in wulihua, would be an embarassment-likewise for males.
Wow, that got a bit extensive. But I did talk to an Asian friend about this, and they seemed to somewhat concur. China, as with elsewhere, still has much progress to make.
Well, in any case, sorry if this essay got a little off-topic. Although, taken in view of the other discourse on this posting, this probably isn't the most non-germane thing to ramble on about. åsèæäçsé...èï¼
And I believe this part was a comment rather than part of the article, but I remember it stating something about women pretending to be men to get IT jobs.
If the best you can do is attempt to insult people's characters and flail around vigorously, you're in over your head.
SJW won in a sense that they set mainstream acceptance of gaming community back decades, and that they successfully smeared GG supporters and gaming in general as sexist, vile, violent and so on.
To general population, it is less shocking to find out that someone into BSM then into online gaming. The only reason you can even speak about gaming is because people think you play Candy Crush or Farmville, and that is gaming you are talking about.
My boss makes more than me, she thinks otherwise.
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Here's three off the top of my head:
Crystal Mangum
Tawana Brawley
Wanetta Gibson
None of the women faced any criminal consequences for cases that could have or did send innocent men to prison. The only thing that happened to Gibson is she had to pay back a legal settlement to a school. And maybe if Mangum had gone to prison she wouldn't have stabbed a boyfriend to death a few years later.
So that's three examples of known liars getting away with it. You have any of women who have suffered serious (as in more than a few years of prison) for a false accusation? Aside from robbing innocent men of money (legal fees and lost property) and years of their lives - men wrongly sent to prison for rape allegations tend to be raped for real.
As opposed to every western society that went from travel by horseback to landing on the moon in a single lifetime?
You mean like Appalachia today? Step outside your bourgeois bubble and visit the poor areas of your own country before throwing stones here, mmmkay?
Learn your civics. Pay discrimination by sex is prohibited by law. It doesn't mandate the equal pay for everyone.
In all those cases there was not enough evidence to prove that they lied beyond a reasonable doubt. What part of that don't you understand?
Also note how the accusers were sued in two of those cases and lost, owning hundreds of thousands of dollars. In the Duke case the accused each got $20M. It really doesn't sound like there were no consequences or reparations.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
You know, you could skip the gaslighting and go with "ok, false accusations are rare but those women lied and should serve just as much prison time as the innocent men faced". There was more than enough evidence to convict in every case I just mentioned if it went to trial. But prosecutors never take these cases to court, which is the problem. You're arguing like an Obamabot saying the reason he didn't criminally prosecute bank fraud is because the cases couldn't be won. Uh, you need to actually bring them to court and try to win before you can make that argument - otherwise you're engaging in circular reasoning.
I said criminal prosecutions but good college try. I even stated that the money from Gibson was just paying back a settlement she won from the school. You think having to pay back ill gotten money is equivalent to 5 years of Brian Bank's life?
Not from the false accuser, and not awards won by state prosecutors. Nice try x2.
So to get back to the big question - can you name a single instance of a false accuser facing equivalent prison time to the man she sent to prison?
That's a load of shit. Even if your 35 vs 48 hours numbers aren't pulled out of your ass (and I think they are), it's still the case that people putting in way too many hours tend to burn out and not achieve more (in terms of actual meaningful output, even if they send lots of "look how busy I am" emails). People who stick to sensible working hours and maintain some work-life balance are more likely to calmly and thoughtfully look at the big picture before making decisions, compared to burnt-out stressheads.
One more reason to stick to the porn and be happy. ;)
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What does any of that have to do with anything being discussed? You think that people working 35 hours should be paid the same as people who work 48 hours because they will be less tired and stressed? Shouldn't less demanding work pay less anyway? if you pay the same for 35 and 48 hours how will you get anyone to work 48 hours?
Discrimination is indeed illegal, that does not mean you have the right to an equal paycheck though.
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"How do you know you are better than Asia?"
Because I looked it up rather than make an assumption as you're doing here.
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