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Windows 10 Pro Is a Dead End For the Enterprise, Gartner Says (computerworld.com)
A prominent Gartner analyst argues that Windows 10 Pro is a dead end for enterprises, citing recent changes by Microsoft to the Windows 10 support schedule. "[We] predict that Microsoft will continue positioning Windows [10] Pro as a release that is not appropriate for enterprises by reducing [...] support and limiting access to enterprise management features," Stephen Kleynhans, a research vice president at Gartner and one of the research firm's resident Windows experts, said in a report he co-authored. Computerworld reports: Last year, the Redmond, Wash. developer announced a six-month support extension for Windows 10 1511, the November 2015 feature upgrade, "to help some early enterprise adopters that are still finishing their transition to Windows as a service." In February, Microsoft added versions 1609, 1703 and 1709 -- released in mid-2016, and in April and October of 2017, respectively -- to the extended support list, giving each 24 months of support, not the usual 18. There was a catch: Only Windows 10 Enterprise (and Windows 10 Education, a similar version for public and private school districts and universities) qualified for the extra six months of support. Users running Windows 10 Pro were still required to upgrade to a successor SKU (stock-keeping unit) within 18 months to continue receiving security patches and other bug fixes.
Another component of Microsoft's current Windows 10 support strategy, something the company has labeled "paid supplemental servicing," was also out of bounds for those running Windows 10 Pro. The extra support, which Microsoft will sell at an undisclosed price, is available only to Enterprise and Education customers. Paid supplemental servicing adds 12 months to the 18 months provided free of charge.
Another component of Microsoft's current Windows 10 support strategy, something the company has labeled "paid supplemental servicing," was also out of bounds for those running Windows 10 Pro. The extra support, which Microsoft will sell at an undisclosed price, is available only to Enterprise and Education customers. Paid supplemental servicing adds 12 months to the 18 months provided free of charge.
forced OS upgrades, which often breaks the registry, poor control over Windows Updates, Windows update showing App store bullshit back onto the box even after you've removed it, etc.
Only the LTSB enterprise version is usable, and even that gets annoying.
Lawyers, MBA's, RIAA? A jedi fears not these things!
If all the ads and other junk on the start menu, etc... was not enough evidence of this already. Enterprise Edition is the only way (not LTSB), and you even need to battle them on there too.
Windows 10 Pro is a dead end for enterprise?
Luckily there is a version of Windows called Windows 10 Enterprise!
Crisis averted!
What do they expect if they continue to screw their customers?
Microsoft is known for having a large warchest..however they have been making terrible decisions for a long time now and linux is starting to eat their milkshake with a straw. I'd imagine that warchest is shrinking with each passing year, and with it they make cutbacks to their PR and marketting. The desperation of putting advertisements into their product along with spying on their users makes me think their warchest is a hell of a lot smaller than we know of, people with money don't hussle broke ass folk hussle, and microsoft is acting like a broke ass street hustler.
That's not true, Windows is still offering paid support for Windows 10. I just got off the phone with one of their friendly tech experts who's number I Binged. He took me to this black technical looking screen and showed me all the viruses I had. He fixed me up for free! All I had to do was input my credit card number in case I needed his services again! Count me as another super satisfied Windows 10 user!!!!
I do not use windows at all, home or work. I read the article only once and still do not see the point.
Where I work (a large company) many people seem fine with W10 and end user support is provided by the company as opposed to Microsoft. I suspect small companies will stick with some form of windows until the hardware is replace, then move to whatever comes on the new hardware. And it seems Apple (which I never used) is shooting themselves in the foot as far as the enterprise is concerned.
I personally believe developers (small % of large companies) should be on some form of Linux, and everyone else on whatever launches excel the best.
So I think W10 is not going anywhere and with the new Linux Sub-system and what I assume maybe a future 'cloudification' push, it will be in the enterprise for quite a while. And the pencil pushers love the word 'cloud', the biggest buzz word I have seen, so I expect that alone will keep W10 around.
Well, I'd say that's only true in the context of Android, which isn't reassuring given the stuff on top of linux to worry about...
On the server side, Linux largely averted Windows drinking all the server milkshake in the first place (if the choices were commercial Unix on locked in platforms and Windows on inter operable hardware, Windows would have won). Windows did pretty much take over the groupware and directory roles, much to the chagirn of Novell. However, they have used their warchest to basically join in the cloud game so that even those pesky people running linux servers are now likely to be giving microsoft money to run their linux servers.
On the desktop side, while I hate to admit it, Linux desktops have not made an appreciable dent in the market, even when counting ChromeOS. OSX has about 10% which is something, but MS has 82% and there's no sign of any movement..
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
The devs are OK. The marketeers and business school types are the problem. Clouuuuud. AWK! Move to the cloud! AWK AWK! Cloud better! BRAAAAAWK!
Don't blame the devs when the marketing department has targets on all their shirts.
Microsoft us a public company you know, you can actually look up how much money they have. And they have a lot and it's growing not shrinking.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
windows pro + with out volume license agreements is needed.
small business are to small for enterprise but they may want to be able to trun off store / other stuff that is only in the enterprise ver.
>> What makes you say that?
The moving tongue and lips
Air flowing in the throat.
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>> The very reason LTSB exists is to provide Long Term stability. Care to elaborate as to why it's "unsuitable"?
Because it's Windows BS.
it will never be "stable", so obviously "Long Term stability" is a total lie
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Who is Gardner?
In another article Forrester says it cures cancer, will bring peace to the middle east, and might invent a milk carton that can be opened without squirting half the contents down your shirt.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
The updates wouldn't be as bad if it weren't a total OS reinstall. Yes, putting all the store bullshit back is annoying as hell, and the different defaults, but if you're an enterprise with group policies you can likely get a couple of machines going in the lab and prep the group policies and registry changes that need to come down. It's the fact that you now have dozens or even hundreds of computers trying to automatically reinstall their OS. You know, it's a damned certainty, that a non-insignificant number of those will go wrong and have to be touched. Anything from a profile issue, to a driver needing to be reinstalled, all the way up to "it don't boot no more." That's the biggest drawback IMO. I use a centralized imaging system and distribute non-persistent virtual desktops with network-stored profiles and the 10 update schedule is a hassle (rebuild every year or so), I wouldn't even want to think about doing this with a bunch of individual desktops all screwing up in fantastic ways.
Meanwhile, in today's news...
"Believe me!" -- Donald Trump
This is what stuck out to me too. I remember them being shills from way back. The only reason to not do that would be it's either not paying or it's not paying enough for the damage to their reputation.
So can you tell me what it's like being on the spectrum?
A lot less color detail than being on the MSX, the Commodore 64, or the Apple II. Plus you deal with the Z80 processor, which has its own strengths and weaknesses compared to a contemporary 6502.
Where the fuck do you get off?
Probably at the bus stop nearest the office of the electric power company.
Applications that save state in the way you describe are extremely rare.
Notepad++ saves automatically across Windows restarts, and in my experience, installation of Notepad++ is extremely common on Windows PCs used for programming.
Not to mention that it goes against the entire paradigm of allowing the user to explicitly save state.
To preserve this paradigm, save upon inactivity to a path within %LOCALAPPDATA% and manually to the path of the file itself.
If loss of power causes an application to lose its state
I can't even believe you are trying to excuse Microsoft for this
I'm not excusing Microsoft any more than I'm excusing Indiana Michigan Power for five second outages during the thunderstorm the night before last. Automatic save protects data on a desktop PC from loss of electric power. It also happens to protects data from Microsoft's inconsideracy.