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China Won't Solve the World's Plastics Problem Any More (wired.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: For a long time, China has been a dumping ground for the world's problematic plastics. In the 1990s, Chinese markets saw that discarded plastic could be profitably recreated into exportable bits and bobs -- and it was less expensive for international cities to send their waste to China than to deal with it themselves. China got cheap plastic and the exporting countries go rid of their trash.
But in November 2017, China said enough. The country closed its doors to contaminated plastic, leaving the exports to be absorbed by neighboring countries like Vietnam, South Korea, and Thailand. And without the infrastructure to absorb all the waste that China is rejecting, the plastics are piling up. Between now and 2030, 111 million metric tons of trash -- straws, bags, water bottles -- will have nowhere to go, according to a paper published in Science Advances on Wednesday. That's as if every human on Earth contributed a quarter of their body mass in mostly single-use plastic polymers to a massive, abandoned pile of garbage.
But in November 2017, China said enough. The country closed its doors to contaminated plastic, leaving the exports to be absorbed by neighboring countries like Vietnam, South Korea, and Thailand. And without the infrastructure to absorb all the waste that China is rejecting, the plastics are piling up. Between now and 2030, 111 million metric tons of trash -- straws, bags, water bottles -- will have nowhere to go, according to a paper published in Science Advances on Wednesday. That's as if every human on Earth contributed a quarter of their body mass in mostly single-use plastic polymers to a massive, abandoned pile of garbage.
Sorting and re-processing the heaps might be a job for AI.
Table-ized A.I.
trash in orbit sucks for things in orbit, but it would be kind of amusing if space-x started launching trash rockets into the sun or something.
Just leave it there.
No, really. The recycle process is as follows - Reduce, Reuse, Recycle (in that order).
No one cares to reduce or reuse. Ok, fine. Then recycle it back to usable form of energy; burn it!
Life is not for the lazy.
They are running out of garbage, for real.
In the end they will burn it controlled for heating.
https://www.independent.co.uk/...
Job creation for all!
I'm not sure to what extend they were really "solving" the problem. I'm guessing that a lot of what gets sent to China for recycling ends up in a landfill where it's out of sight and mind from the Western world. As China continues to industrialize and build its economy they're probably running out of cheap labor that can handle it, whether that means actually recycling it or just finding somewhere to bury or dump it.
On the other hand, we might eventually not want to recycle all of our plastic. Eventually we'll stop burning oil and other fossil fuels (as we move to solar and electric power for more and more things) and plastic is a convenient way to sequester carbon. We could even bury it in old mine shafts or find other places to store it where it won't leach into the ground water or get eaten by marine wildlife. Presumably we'll even start scrubbing it from the atmosphere, but we have to do something with it.
But in November 2017, China said enough. The country closed its doors to contaminated plastic,
Which from what I've read is the problem. China is sick of our soiled plastic waste. I mean ffs people, we had one job, clean up the waste so it's not disgusting and China would take it on the cheap. But NOOOOOO, lazy fucking Americans can't even be bothered to rinse stuff off and make their garbage slightly more appealing.
Well, guess what, they're are sick of it and I don't blame them. And you can bet the other countries taking plastic now, they won't put up with it for very long either. Clean it up, or bury it in your own fucking backyard.
Somehow they don't see a problem with exporting all that plastic in the form of cheap toys and electronics in the first place, eh? Man up, show some responsibility and start dealing with the problem you yourself have created.
"That's as if every human on Earth contributed a quarter of their body mass"
A more relevant analogy would be to say something like "as if every American contributed an elephants worth of plastic...cause they probably do". I doubt the 2-3 billion people living in poverty are contributing anywhere near as much as my neighbors who manage to fill 2 96 gallon bins every week.
Stop posting your spam on Slashdot, APK. Your presence here is not desired.
I don't know who you are, why you are, where you are, nor care. Please stop polluting my Internet with your pointless garbage. by I.P. Nightly June 17 2016
You forgot this one.
Why would China allow importing other countries' garbage? That would amount to treason. That's because it was the WTO concession imposed upon China in exchange for them getting access to the world market at lower tariff. So while we are complaining "unfair trade" with China and ridiculing their environment problem, we must feel shameful about ourselves -- China (and other poor third world countries) had to sell out their environment in order to survive economically while we have ripped the benefits of a clean environment, something that our politicians and media never want to mention. Get down from your moral high horse!
By 2030, there will be a major Asian war. Most wars are over land, resources (oil, etc). This one will be over pussy. Vagina. Snatch. The pink that winks and stinks.
The one-child policy means men vastly outnumber women in china. And the girls who weren't aborted had better educational, etc, opportunities. Opportunities like studying in the US and getting hooked on big white dicks. They have no interest in their small dicked chinese countrymen.
China is a boiling pot of horny young incels. And it's going to explode, like a bukake session. And, like the bukake session, it won't be fun to clean up.
China will invade neighboring countries for pussy. They'll claim it was about fishing rights or shit like that but that's a lie.
I hate plastic. The feel of it, the look of it, how quickly it breaks down with use. I've been slowly and surely eliminating plastic wares from my life for years. Moving to metal mixing bowls, glass bowls for storing things instead of tupperware, saving and re-using glass jars for storage instead of ziplock bags. I have a stainless steel milkshake cup I use for most of my beverages, instead of the typical american giant plastic cup with a sports team name on it. You know, simple changes.
The main thing that spurred all this was probably a mixing bowl.
I had a set of white plastic mixing bowls, and at some point I had to store some tomato based pasta sauce in one, after which, no matter how much I washed it, it was forever tinted orange. It just looked gross, and sparked the realization that; if the damn plastic bowl was so porous as to be permanently stained by tomato sauce, what the hell else might it have soaked up, and/or leached out of it?
After that, whenever I get a chance, I buy a stainless steel or glass version. Sure, costs more and will take longer to acquire some items, but I figure its worth it.
It all reminds me of the humorous observation:
At what point, did drilling an oil well in the middle east, pumping out that oil, putting the oil on a ship, sail that oil filled ship across the ocean, unloading the oil in America, piping it to a refinery, refining it into some form of plastic, trucking that plastic to a factory, forming that plastic into an object, boxing that object up, putting that box into another truck and trucking it to a warehouse, then from the warehouse to a store, from the store to your house, to be opened, used once, and then thrown away, ALL BECOME EASYER THAN WASHING THE FUCKING FORK.
I've decided to Diversify my Holdings. I've divided my cash between my left and right pockets, instead of all in one.
The Pacific Ocean is not the final giant trash of the world.
The governments and local houses must apply rules for avoiding this massive trash similar to CO2 rules, ozone-protecting rules, anti-chlorine rules (aka CFC), ...
Many fishes and octopuses were eating this trash to pollute their stomachs.
They should have knowledge of how to recycle the trashes, to fabricate biodegradable bags, etc.
If you want me to stop using plastics, you'll have to fight me to death and then pry them from my cold dead fingers. My 3D printer doesn't work with metals nor glass.
Cheap Chinese Crap needs to go!
Stop lying, shill. The Chinese were very deliberate about this, and this was a saber rattling in their economic warfare.
... we think of China?
Are we just wishing them death nowaday?
Look at the MONSTER plastic reef in the oceans. China is #1 nation with tagged plastic in it. IOW, they continue to dump their plastics into the ocean. Like CO2 and air pollution, this needs to stop. Hopefully, we will see china dumping less plastics into the oceans, while the other nations (dominantly western nations) clean up their own act.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
i seen where shredded plastic was mixed with hot asphalt and roads and parking lots paved with it, i seen where old tires were converted in to rubber mats of various sizes. so with a little imagination i am sure plastic can be recycled in to something usable
Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
I love reports like this. Some people are going to say that government regulation is the way to go and that people should cut back on consumption, etc. Maybe that's true to some extent, I dunno.
But really, I hope most people see this as a huge opportunity and that it lures creative entrepreneurs. That's how these problems are most effectively solved, and somebody is going to get absurdly rich off it, and I'm excited to see what they come up with. Don't bury it, don't send it to the sun, but find some way to make it useful again.
> Between now and 2030, 111 million metric tons of trash -- straws, bags, water bottles -- will have nowhere to go
Unless the laws of conservation of mass are to be repealed I guarantee that plastic will go somewhere. Therefore, by definition, it will have somewhere to go.
So, last November took an action. What is the story today? Nothing new here. Is this just another hot-headed, angry, Pro-Communist lover still upset over his impotence?
China is the country that is probably the most responsible for islands of plastic floating around in the Pacific, IIRC.
How about you make some crap in some other place than China? You conservatards always have your quippy little one liners that do nothing but make you look like a dick. There are multitudes of products that you can't source locally if you wanted to. It's usually the fault of those same people spouting those stupid one liners. You guys caused this problem by outsourcing our jobs. How about you move your goddamned factories back to America and then we'll stop buying Chinese crap?
So it can turn back into oil.
How many anecdotes does it take before it becomes data?
How much correlation does something need before it becomes causation?
How many people do you need to kill before you're a war hero and not a murderer?
You guys that rotely regurgitate these stupid one liners are why we can't have nice things. You fuckers hold back progress. If you keep hearing anecdotes, you aren't supposed to ignore them, you're supposed to measure and verify. Then it's data. So again, how many verified anecdotes do you need to see before you'll take an issue seriously? I'm not specifically talking about appliance longevity, I'm more wondering in a generic sense.
But specifically towards that topic, I too repair/repaired appliances (not a very profitable prof right now), and all of my anecdotes say that the old shit was better (at least when regarding longevity). And it is nothing like your sentence, all parties are right. Today's shit is less robust than the 90s shit, which is less robust than the 70s shit, which is less robust than the 50s shit. This is in no way some rose colored glasses shit like you wanna imply. As a matter of fact, it's something so important that you can get data on it, but just like I'm not gonna bother to link it, you couldn't bother looking it up your damned self. But that won't please you anyway because you don't care. You just wanna be "right". So then you'll attack the data and start an argument about what is "better". This approximately 6ft tall 50s era Philco refrigerator sitting by my desk has lived a long life, needing only one compressor change in all those years. I'd say it's better than anything made today. But that doesn't mean it's the end all be all. It weighs about 500lbs and uses as much electricty as an arc welder. It does not know the concept of efficiency. But it does know cold. Hella cold. And it's lasted 60 something years with relatively little maintenance.
Here's another anecdote you haters can shit all over: Most appliances don't EVER break. They don't get used that long. They are replaced because they are "out of style", an ugly color, too small for current needs, or simple keepin up with the Joneses. So the reason you don't see a lot of 1950s Philco refridgerator/nuclear fallout bunkers is not because they all fell apart. It's simply a case of out with the old and in with the new.
You are welcome to fuck yourself on my lawn, whippersnapper!
not a chemist, but it doesn't sound particularly safe. Don't most plastics have additives in them?
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that would be 3/4 of theirbody mass for every one else.
Useless fat virgin fucktard APK is off his meds again.
Luckily, his posting style is so awful it’s east\y to ignore him.
I put aside 50% of mod points just for him and his malware troll spamming.
APK's comprehension is so bad, he thinks Malwarebytes has 'RECOMMENDED' his software, where, in fact, the other two hosts management tools are called 'small, useful ...' and APK's is just called 'small'.
APK. Small. Not even useful - just check Malwarebytes
Please provide three points where you think the Chinese were imitating you, or is this another case where you've seen 'host file' and have just saved the link without understanding what it was talking about?
For MORE speed
Only if you ignore the need to load your software, download the latest lists from several sources, merge, write to hosts and _then_ access the internet.
security
Bullshit. It's a blacklist solution. It's reactive.
reliability
Irrelevant to most users
anonymity
Have you never heard of anonymous DNS?
for less resources
Bullshit. It takes more of my time and attention to use your software to update hosts each time I want to use the internet. While resolving an address by checking the hosts file takes less resources than DNS, every other part of the process takes more resources.
Please take your spam somewhere else. You've no ability to read, comprehend or answer any of the challenges to your ridiculous claims.
If solving the world's plastic problems meant dumping it in the Yangtze river thank god!
The out of sight out of mind policies of 1st world countries, off loading their environmental responsibilities on to countries that are least able to deal with it has to stop, it's an hypocrisy the world's ecosystem can no longer afford
It's a solved problem The only problem with it is the solution is a tiny bit more expensive than people want, and it stinks. This isn't a plastic problem, this is a choice people don't want to make.
If video games influenced behavior the Pac Man generation would be eating pills and running away from their problems.
Steven Burn he'll tell you & has had to deal w/ you fleas bothering me here & it is small, fast, & perfect (moreso now).
* The results yield the best possible of its kind & vs. competing methods on MANY levels...
(... & you know it + FEAR me...)
As to your other post? The link @ The REGISTER & its date explains it all & since you're going for POST BURIAL (trying to HIDE me BURYING you) obviously? I'll let you keep BURYING yourself, lol!
APK
P.S.=> As to that last part, why else would you stalk me by unidentifiable anonymous posts (advertiser/webmaster/inferior competitor)? apk
No. You claim he 'RECOMMENDS' you, you provide proof.
Malwarebytes site is very clear. The other host management tools are 'useful'. Yours is not.
I have no idea what you mean by 'other post'. Your comprehension is so bad, it could be anything.
APK. Small. Not useful - just ask Malwarebytes
See subject: Hardcodes China used long after I provide security vs. DNS many security issues but also more speed avoiding dns roundtrip remotely on resolution (& lightens DNS' load too, bonus for its admins).
Reliability matters - don't speak for everyone.
On anonymity I stay off DNS request logs too - & avoid DNS many security issues (so much for anonymity when DNSSEC is not widely used nor are DNS cookies - especially by 99++% of ISP DNS users).
APK
P.S.=> Your time is spent trolling me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts since you FEAR me (& I've taken you down as I did above MANY times before from behind your MANY sockpuppets you have here on /. so now you STALK me anonymously - pitiful ANGIERS (the showman advertiser/webmaster/INFERIOR competitor obviously - others don't & like + use my work (I give them what they want in more speed/security/reliability & anonymity online)))... apk
See subject, EAT your words (he both recommends & hosts my work saying "does all you need") & apparently you can't read /.ers words https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256612&cid=56818248/ lol...
* Oh, you can, but you're just trying to BURY all this (your defeat - & I don't HAVE to even TRY 'win' - your kind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous JEALOUS jowie do-nothing TROLL "ne'er-do-wells" defeat yourselves FOR me, lol)).
Yes, I do KNOW you're webmasters/advertisers/INFERIOR competitors (that are no competition on TONS of grounds).
APK
P.S.=> You try cut me down? LOL, especially when others LIKE & USE MY WORK?? Please - & you FEAR me obviously hiding as you do... apk
See subject: They may not be blocking ads (they do less) or malwares etc. but ever heard of DNS redirect poisoning dummy? Hardcodes in hosts help for security there & FOR SPEED, stupid AND anonymity (which apparently YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT on dns requestlogs).
* ARE YOU REALLY THAT DUMB or just "play acting"? The latter is my guess as you go for "post burial", lol... weak, like the UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous TRUE coward you are that FEARS me.
You can write Mr. Steven Burn services@it-mate.co.uk & he will VERIFY he recommends my work (& hostsman, inferior SQLite with bugs in it for YEARS until recently single platform inferior).
Idiots like you TRIED TO LIE before on that & he showed here & I hate bothering him but he will & has shooting idiots like you down - do something USEFUL w/ your wasted life instead as I have, ok? You've the devil in you ADVERTISER/WEBMASTER!
APK
P.S.=> Anyone say good things about YOUR work & USE IT TOO as folks do mine? apk
Local from RAM resolution from hosts = faster & less complex (& less security issue laden) vs. remote DNS (or local). You lose.
Again - don't speak for 'everyone' - I've already got you OUTNUMBERED on a small sampling of those who use my work vs. your UNIDENTIFIABLE stalk me by AC posts self loser.
* QUESTION: People like & USE my work - do they yours?
APK
P.S.=> Answer that question (for your "work" which is non-existent) - you won't & you'll RUN Forrest (me? I'm going to drink a Miller HighLife & LAUGH @ you like my pal is next to me now)... apk
What we need is a ban on plastic goods from China. Keep that junk out of our country. Make America great again!
services@it-mate.co.uk & he'll make you EAT YOUR WORDS (he has before) & anyone @ all use & LIKE your work as they do mine? No, lol!
APK
P.S.=> Jealous JOWIE, loser you are, ANSWER that - you won't & you'll RUN Forrest & I'm going to drink a couple Miller HighLife's w/ my buddy here who is calling you a JERK LOSER (we have no more time for your jealous fear of me unidentifiable idiot posts), lol... apk
See subject loser: Cry of the "ne'er-do-well" (narcissism) vs. folks like me that give folks what they want & they use & LIKE it, not you!
You're an irrelevant DO nothing talker Jealous jowie. You concede it's faster & it's more secure & what I save on ad loadtime alone's another savings (minus ads poisoning us too) - you've done BETTER there, lil' JEALOUS JOWIE? Hell no.
Heck - AN ENTIRE NATIONS' (China) "EXPERTS" COPIED ONLY A PORTION OF WHAT I DO & I did it 1st, no questions asked... how about you? ZERO!
* RoTfLmAo @ U + "your kind"... lame talkers.
(Ones I utterly DESTROY point-by-point like the weak bitch do-nothing "WEEZILS" you prove yourself to be, constantly, stalking me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts - lol, your ENTIRE LIFE is that, useless do-nothing JEALOUS whimp loser you are!)
APK
P.S=> Classic "narcissism" THE CRY OF THE LOSER DO-NOTHING FLIMSY "ne'er-do-well" DO-NOTHING when your SUPERIORS like me (who actually produce things folks like & use that are massively useful on TONS of levels vs. anything else out there doing more for less) SPANK your disgusting reprehensible useless asses as always easily - I don't have to TRY win when goofs like you try "attack me", you kill yourselves FOR ME... lol! apk
why do they keep shipping garbage (not just plastic, but everything) to the other side of the world?
we know how to recycle ALL THESE THINGS! it's a solved problem, for years.
i get that it is cheaper, but it doesn't solve anything, the garbage is still there, how short-sighted must you be not to realise that?
It's only cheaper now, it will be more expensive to deal with it later.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
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That's as if every human on Earth contributed a quarter of their body mass in mostly single-use plastic polymers to a massive, abandoned pile of garbage.
Yikes, I might produce that much every year. I really gotta cut back.
I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
However, it doesn't matter, because this is slashdot, and environmental problems don't exist, because we're a bunch of fat neckbeard yank dickheads dying to suck an orange traitor's nutsack.
See subject: OR Malwarebytes' hpHosts forums https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8411929&cid=51031155/ where he told you morons he recommends it PERSONALLY himself and audited its code.
* It used to be you could go onto that forums MINUS logging in but you idiots harassed him & myself SO MUCH he made it so you HAVE to logon - you have the link, go now (so I can tell WHERE YOU ARE FROM or HE CAN, lol).
APK
P.S.=> Go on now - let me know where you are ontop of making you EAT YOUR WORDS... apk
See subject & I don't have to defend my work. I let others (registered /.ers) do the talking FOR me https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256612&cid=56818248/
* Do they do that for YOUR WORK? Do you HAVE ANY WORK TO DEFEND??
APK
P.S.=> That's all I ever have to ask & you "RUN, Forrest: Run!!!" guaranteed, lol... apk
Mr. Steven Burn (malwarebytes employee) says he personally recommends my work right on his forum http://forum.hosts-file.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4290/ & you are caught a liar.
APK
P.S.=> How's EATING YOUR WORDS taste? Like your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH ramming them down washed down by the BITTER TASTE of SELF-defeat? apk
See subject: Your CRY of the "ne'er-do-well" (narcissism) proved much but showing you don't do SQUAT yourself does so even more, lol!
APK
P.S.=> China most definitely IMPLEMENTED what I did LONG BEFORE (only hosts file program that does & I am the 1st in Windows & ONLY ONE IN GUI on both Windows, Linux & BSD (soon for MacOS X too))... apk
See subject & mine's the ONLY 1 in GUI on Linux & BSD (better than "scryptkiddie" ugly crap NOBODY wants to really use (or why does X/Wayland, Gnome, KDE, xfce EXIST @ ALL + programs for them? Surf the web here to /. using Lynx did ya??)
* No OTHER hosts program checks valid tld/gTLD or does what China copied from me in hardcoded hosts file addresses to speed you up AND to do what I had to CLUE YOU IN ON, avoiding DNS tracking logs + security issues dns has.
APK
P.S.=> You sure "TALK" a lot but you do ZERO yourself - BIG talker, lol (more like DO-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" ZERO in yourself vs. me who others state they LIKE & USE my work https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256612&cid=56818248/ NOT YOUR NON-EXISTENTWARE, lol)... apk
See subject (lmao) & do registered /.ers say they like & use YOUR work (yours doesn't exist) as I do https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256612&cid=56818248/ ?
* No, of COURSE you don't - why? You're a DO-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" useless waste of life!
APK
P.S.=> TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN ON /. - & you KNOW it... apk
See subject & where Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes recommends my program personally http://forum.hosts-file.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4290/ & the ONLY THING I DESTROY is those like you letting YOU destroy yourselves showing yourselves as not only LIARS but trolling do-nothing "ne'er-do-wells", lol!
* Proofs right there above & ALL thru this debate where I TOTAL you... easily as always.
( No small wonder WHY you STALK me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts - I've crushed you under your MULTIPLE SOCKPUPPET FAKE NAMES for your FAKE LIES OF LIVES many times (or you even IMPERSONATE ME & others as you did gweihir who said YOU'RE ALL SCUM & IT WASN'T HIM... lol))
APK
P.S.=> You fools start w/ me 1st every time & I let you annihilate yourselves (with your lies most of all & the fact you're wastes of life do-nothing JEALOUS JOWIES, lol)... apk
Great, just what we need, more of your dishonesty.
You complain that anonymous posts such as mine are from unidentifiable authors. You then seem to claim that I impersonated gweihir. In fairness, it's hard to be certain, because it's difficult to parse the nearly incomprehensible word salad you posted. However, given that I am unidentifiable, you could not possibly have any grounds to claim that I also impersonated gweihir. That's dishonest of you.
Furthermore, I referenced a link you posted to a thread on an old discussion. That thread includes one of your posts making a completely unproven allegation that Coren22 made an anonymous post impersonating Steve Burn. Because, as you say, anonymous posts are made by unidentifiable authors, you have no way to demonstrate that Coren22 made the anonymous post impersonating Steve Burn. That's an unproven and potentially libelous allegation.
You're deflecting by failing to address this issue at all. You're also contradicting yourself when it serves your interest to make vicious attacks against people. That is disingenuous.
Since you can't defend your actions with facts and logic, the next step for you is to demand my real name, address, and phone number. You'll probably also threaten me with violence as you've done to so many other people recently. That's the next step in your playbook, isn't it?
Perhaps you ought to spend more time writing quality software and less time spamming and attacking people on Slashdot.
You UNIDENTIFIABLE ac do-nothing JEALOUS JOWIE (lol) "n'er-do-wells" = BUSTED impersonating gweihir https://slashdot.org/comments.... as you did myself MANY TIMES for MONTHS now - you're low (& lazy zeros + you KNOW it).
* PROVE OTHERWISE that you're not WASTES OF LIFE losers (oh, that's right - you can't - as I've asked you to SHOW others like + use your NON-EXISTENT WORK (you're not capable of work let alone GOOD work as I am) & you just plain CAN'T, lol...)
APK
P.S.=> Grow up loser - instead of STALKING ME constantly, try do something useful that others like & use (as I do) - go get an education + some real skills (like programming) & feel BETTER about your WASTED obviously MISERABLE self (which is YOUR FAULT, not mine OR anyone else's)... apk
Simple question: What does your host file engine have to do with an article about China refusing to import plastic for recycling?
Give me a direct answer. Don't deflect and dodge the question. If you can't do that, then you're an offtopic spammer. You have one chance to give me a direct and cogent answer to my question. I promise you, I will link to whatever you post in reply.
Sadly much/most of the companies that made quality things that last went out of business because they couldn't compete with the cheap crap. So now everything is crap. Worse is that no matter where you buy now, it all comes from the same place, is all made by the same people, it is just re-branded six ways from Sunday. It is pretty obvious to look around and find the exact same widget or bobbet and apart from some logo or whatnot is the exact same item being sold from china. Buying from a "quality" store you just pay for the brand and a massive markup.
See subject: Don't worry - My program (& other inferior ones) will take away your web ad money from you advertisers & webmaster wannabes (reported losses already @ 65% last I looked a year or so ago), lol...
* Shouldn't have TRACKED, INFECTED & SLOWED us users...
(We wouldn't be SCORCHING YOU like I do better than ANYONE else does faster & more efficiently).
APK
P.S.=> Not only do you STALK me via your UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts (since you can't stand behind your lies) but you get CAUGHT LYING lol - worse, you're DO-NOTHING zero "ne'er-do-well" ZERO waste of LIFE... apk
See subject: You can't JEALOUS Jowie advertiser/webmaster whose tracking/slowing/infecting us I stop. You can refute you stalk me by unidentifiable anonymous posts.
* GO away JOWIE - you'll be BROKE as a JOKE soon (more of a joke than you ALREADY are)...
APK
P.S.=> No refuting you're an online WEEZIL is there? Nope - & no refuting you're shit - I don't HAVE to REFUTE your lies - you do it FOR ME, lol DESTROYING Yourselves STALKING me constantly... apk
See subject: Jealous JOWIE" you can't justify you're an online WHACKO stalking me & what's YOUR STALKING ME have to do w/ China?
APK
P.S.=> Cat got "JOWIE's" tongue (unless he's lying & stalking BUT when you're caught you seem to CLAM UP there, Jowie)... apk
Jealous JOWIE advertiser/webmaster: How's your unidentifiable anonymous STALKING me have a thing to do w/ China? Why do you do it?? Why won't you STAND BEHIND YOUR WORDS (lies) Jealous JOWIE???
* YOU WOULDN'T STALK ME BEHIND UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS POSTS IF YOU WEREN'T DOING ANYTHING WRONG!
APK
P.S.=> ANSWER = You're a PIECE OF SHIT Whacko STALKING me & you KNOW IT is why... apk
Jealous JOWIE are you on topic stalking me by UNIDENTIFIABLE posts? Are your stalking of me about the topic China?? Can't stand behind your words Jealous JOWIE???
* You're just JEALOUS JOWIE in fear of me (obviously since you use UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts vs. your "registered 'lusername'") & you FEAR my program since you're obviously a webmaster OR advertiser (possibly INFERIOR competitor).
APK
P.S.=> Live in FEAR Jowie - you can't stop me GIVING PEOPLE WHAT THEY BOTH LIKE & USE (unlike your crap NOBODY wants or likes)... apk
Success SURELY != STALKING me by unidentifiable ac as you do me since you can't stand behind your words JEALOUS Jowie advertiser/webmaster. Nobody else would do it (possibly inferior competitors) as I give people more speed/security/reliability & even more anonymity to an extent on the latter - you don't. You give them crap that slows/tracks/infects them.
* That's the DIFFERENCE between someone like me, doing decent things people LIKE/USE & SPEAK WELL OF vs. YOU scumbag "ne'er-do-well" DO-NOTHING trolling STALKING OFF TOPIC zero you are, Jealous JOWIE, lol!
APK
P.S.=> What's it LIKE being a SLINKING WORM that has to HIDE from me in OBVIOUS fear? Yes, you FEAR me OR you wouldn't be doing "Jealous JOWIE" the UNIDENTIFIABLE "ne'er-do-well" ANONYMOUS posts obviously... apk
Where's YOUR proof advertiser behind UNIDENTIFIABLE Jealous Jowie webmaster/advertiser ANONYMOUS lies (where's your proof?)
* It isn't... lol!
HOWEVER - I can show MINE (only a fraction of what I could) easily https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256612&cid=56818248/
APK
P.S.=> & you CAN'T Jealous Jowie UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous weezil webmaster/advertiser/inferior competitor who STALKS me OFF TOPIC since your shekels are drying up as I give folks more speed/security/reliability & anonymity - what they clearly want (see link above) - YOU, on the other hand ADVERTISER track/infect/slow users... apk
You increasingly FAIL unidentifiable stalker of myself. You obviously FEAR me since you won't identify yourself as you stalk me off topic.
APK
P.S.=> Jealous JOWIE advertiser/webmaster OR inferior competitor - get this straight - YOU'RE TOO WEAK TO STOP ME & I'm TOO STRONG for a weezil whimp like you - stop me: YOU CAN'T, lol & THAT is truly THAT (you fail)... apk
Jealous JOWIE my unidentifiable anonymous advertiser stalker are you on topic? No. Are you STALKING ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts since you fear me? Yes.
* I don't do tech support in forums - my program clearly notes I do by email...
APK
P.S.=> Not even a NICE TRY there Jealous JOWIE in fear of me advertiser/webmaster/inferior competitor - I give folks what they like & use https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256612&cid=56818248/ - clearly what they want - YOU on the other hand infect/track/slow users, & they DO NOT WANT YOU @ ALL, hence them liking & using MY WORK, lol... apk
Hahaha EVERY ONE you cite likes my program (or uses it) & says it's good (thanks for helping me) - do they of your ads, advertiser? No.
* LMAO!
APK
P.S.=> Unbelievable - I can't BELIEVE you show proof of others SAYING they like & use my work (they surely don't like your ads tracking/infecting/slowing them though - hence them using MY WORK)... apk
Arstechnica = losers who stalked me (as you do now anonymously unidentifiably) to NTCompatible.com & Windows IT Pro magazine forums to their public dismay in Jeremy Reimer & Jay Little + Jarrett DeAngelis (who posts here on /. until I drove his ass off too) when their websites were REMOVED by their hosting providers in Shaw Canada & CrystalTech (for both email harassing me caught on a tracking ticket + stalking me & posting lies about me on them AFTER I destroyed them both PUBLICLY @ Windows IT Pro on Exchange Servers memory being freed UNHALTING them (which tells you Exchange is HEAVILY POINTER ORIENTED linked list driven, which leads to memory fragmentation that CAN halt a serverware)).
Jay Little the "self-proclaimed 'EXCHANGE EXPERT'" HAD TO CONCEDE IT from MICROSOFT'S OWN DOCUMENTATION proving it FOR me there (where they as usual stalked me AS YOU ARE NOW AS YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THOSE IDIOTS TOO ) & they can't "ban me" ANYMORE than I can be "banned" here on /. - as nothing stops ME, but me!
I just left their site after a VERY BRIEF visit in 2001 (finding they are UNDEREDUCATED DO-NOTHING LAZY WANNABE "Fake it Till you Make It" types - shams & "ne'er-do-wells").
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Thor SCHMUCK?
Ask him WHY his false accusation of an old ware of mine was 1st taken down to NO threat & CA sold off the SHITTY antivir he sold (as a paid pawn of theirs) & afaik (after their main coder gave me SHIT on the phone no less pussy that he is) they are GONE, done. dead... lol!
In fact: Lookup "CA Accounting Scandal" on Google - scumbags & THEIR BIRDS OF A FEATHER (2" dick thieves whose GOD is MONEY (shit with NOTHING really behind it, illusion) just go down vs. me everytime!
APK
P.S.=> I find it HILARIOUS you fools from "arseHOLETechnica" are STILL BUTTHURT over it (Peter Bright GOITER MAN, lol, frogchin also had his IRC server rooms taken over by "yours truly" EASILY as I drove them ALL out of them running, lol)... apk
APK thinks that the Chinese copied some simplistic obvious feature from his overly complex, bloated, and much spammed about file aggregator. If you look around in this discussion you can find a link to an article from the guardian that describes what the Chinese are doing and apart from a simplistic obvious trivial feature, is nothing like what APK put out. I'm suprised APK hasn't posted his list of accomplishments that include a shitty idea he offered to another project that they rejected. Because nothing says success like having a shitty idea rejected.
Basically APK hates the Chinese and once saw an article about them and a hosts file so now whenever the Chinese come up he tries to get people to believe his fantasy that they some how copied the work of an asshole internet spammer.
See subject: Arsholes did, lol (& I ran them outta their IRC chatrooms too, lol, easily - LIMITED dolts they are) & busted for email harassing me! Thor SCMUCK was even EASIER - I got his FALSE ACCUSATION downrated to ZERO THREAT & then that dirty shithole CA got busted for accounting fraud & sold their shitty antivir too!
Limited skills, eh?
OK, QUESTION:
* What have YOU DONE BETTER that you can show users like & USE praising it as I can https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256612&cid=56818248/ hmmm?
Let's SEE who's "LIMITED IN SKILLS" (you are).
APK
P.S.=> For someone who can't SHOW SHIT for yourself (you) LET ALONE OTHERS LIKING & USING YOUR WORK PRAISING IT as they do mine? LOL, I wouldn't call ANYONE limited in skills... lol, you are, clearly (cuz you'll RUN "Forrest": RUN!!! from proof of what I ask you & you DO every SINGLE time, lmao)... apk
See subject dimwit "ne'er-do-well": Nobody does that for do-nothings like you. I'm not here to win your fixed highschool popularity contest (easily cheated by sockpuppets) - I'm here to WIN & I am! ... & what does "your kind" (chattering anonymous WEEZILS, lol) do?
All YOU & "your kind" (the NOT-MEN) KNOW HOW to do is LOSE, loser! ... & you KNOW it + show it proving it by STALKING me via UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts & having ZERO to show for yourselves (due to your WASTED trolling lives).
* TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN ON /. ...
APK
P.S.=> Trying to TWIST things whimp? You can't & there is NO DENYING folks like + use MY WORK (not your non-existenceware, lmao, as you have none - you're a LAZY underskilled UNEDUCATED moronic little do-nothing & that's YOUR FAULT, nobody elses - PROVE OTHERWISE - show us something YOU did that others speak well of in software (lol, YOU CAN'T))... apk
See subject dimwit "ne'er-do-well": Nobody does that for do-nothings like you. I'm not here to win your fixed highschool popularity contest (easily cheated by sockpuppets) - I'm here to WIN & I am! ... & what does "your kind" (chattering anonymous WEEZILS, lol) do?
All YOU & "your kind" (the NOT-MEN) KNOW HOW to do is LOSE, loser!
(... & you KNOW it + show it proving it by STALKING me via UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts & having ZERO to show for yourselves (due to your WASTED trolling lives)).
* TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN ON /. ...
APK
P.S.=> Trying to TWIST things whimp? You can't & there is NO DENYING folks like + use MY WORK (not your non-existenceware, lmao, as you have none - you're a LAZY underskilled UNEDUCATED moronic little do-nothing & that's YOUR FAULT, nobody elses - PROVE OTHERWISE - show us something YOU did that others speak well of in software (lol, YOU CAN'T))... apk
Jealous JOWIE anonymous stalker: Are you on topic? Hell no you jealous little do nothing waste of life, lol! I'm ribbing on the Chinese for using a technique I did LONG BEFORE THEM, "jowie" (the do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" that STALKS me (big man, not) by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts).
* You're a loser... lol & you KNOW it + PROVE it stalking me by unidentifiable anonymous posts & STUPIDLY trying to cut down work I've done that did well & YOU HAVE NONE TO SHOW YOURSELF (Especially something better that others speak well of & use).
(Keep stalking me loser - you're making ME laugh by PROVING MY POINT you have NO BALLS (& certainly haven't done anything good as I have that folks both like + use / )
APK
P.S.=> That's as DIRECT as I need to be with an INFERIOR little wannabe that doesn't have any skills OR output that others will EVER speak well of - why? You're a LAZY WASTE of life, lol... apk
ANYONE say these kinds of things about work you do (which is ZERO living up to your "ne'er-do-well" image) https://news.slashdot.org/comm... ?
* Come on now "Lil' JOWIE" (jealous jowie the do-nothing unskilled undereducated "ne'er-do-well" BRAVE (lol, not) stalker of myself via your UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts) - answer that question above!
(LMAO - what am I saying? I've asked you to show anything you do anyone speaks well of & 1,000's of TIMES, you have to RUN ("Forrest", lol)).
APK
P.S.=> You can't show SQUAT for yourself "wally" (whimpy wally, lol) because you're a DO-NOTHING lazy dimwitted wannabe & nothing more - PROVE otherwise! apk
I'll summarize what just happened.
You cited your testimonials yet again, saying that registered Slashdot users like and use your work. I stated that many of your supposed testimonials are taken out of context and include substantial criticism of you and/or your software. You called me a liar and demanded proof, so I provided it. Upon providing proof, you made a disingenuous statement, effectively denying the criticism in each of the four quoted comments. I replied again to correct the record and noted that each of the four comments was, indeed, critical to some degree. Instead of addressing the factual issues, you responded with personal attacks and accused me of stalking you.
Your personal attacks are absurd and unfounded. Continuing to reply to your posts within this thread is not stalking you. If it were, your continued replies to me would also constitute stalking. That is, of course, an absurd statement. You haven't refuted a single thing I've said.
It seems like you're so far out of touch with reality that you're incapable of telling the truth. The behavior you're demonstrating here is a big part of why people continue to criticize you.
Again: ARE YOU ON TOPIC as you STALK ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts, Jealous "JOWIE" (lol)?
Well?? Come on NOW jowie "fess up" now, spit it out (as you choke on it, lol, LOATHE to admit it, hehehehe...).
(LOL - lil' "Jowie")
Hahahahaha! See subject... but then I suppose a DO-NOTHING waste of LIFE "ne'er-do-well" stalker of others by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts is USED to be laughed at... hahahaha!
APK
P.S.=> Man - I just LOVE calling you what YOU really are - a JEALOUS lil' "Jowie", hohohoho (you know - a do nothing LOSER nobody says OR THINKS anything good about, & you KNOW it (it's WHY You hate yourself & have to TRY spread it to others like me doing well in the eyes of others ala https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256612&cid=56818248/ WHEN YOU NEVER have or WILL, "Jowie" (hahahaha jowie))... apk
You are repeating yourself.
I'm not a dimwit. I can see that part of the comment is positive, and part is negative. You seem literally incapable of acknowledging the latter.
Typical of NPD. You are fixated on highschool. You are the only one who talks about 'winning'. You talk about 'outnumbering' your critics. About how other people think you are good. You attack, call names, even threaten.
If your work, or arguments, had merit they would stand on their own and you could defend them without this childish behaviour.
I say, again - it's not stalking to ask you to prove your claims or to expose how ridiculous your arguments are.
If you'd like people to stop posting AC, stop being toxic. This is a direct result of your behaviour. Man up. Own it.
The phrase 'truer words ...' is usually used by someone else when agreeing with you. Using it yourself, about yourself is powerfully narcissistic.
There's nothing to twist. I'm making the same points I always make;
Your software may work, but it is of limited use to most people.
Hosts based security, on its own, is ineffective and managing it the way you do is too onerous to be worthwhile.
Your behaviour is toxic, your claims exaggerated and your ability to read/comprehend has problems.
You are unable to provide proof (and no, some out of context quotes aren't proof of anything) of anything you claim and your inability to handle criticism, your grandiose sense of worth and your limited social ability looks a lot like NPD.
You are projecting, as you and NPD types so often do.
See subject: Did folks I quote say what they said here liking my work AND using it https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256612&cid=56818248/ ? Yes or No is ALL that is required (not your "Dyslexic BRAIN's" weird "interpretation") - I'm not here to win a highschool popularity contest (especially on /. where anyone can be 5000++ people by sockpuppets) - I'm here to WIN & you answering that makes me win (you lose), lol & you KNOW it!
* Answer that "lil' JOWIE" - YES or NO (lol, I just LOVE calling you that, gets you all "hot" hahahaha & describes YOU perfectly as the "ne'er-do-well" do NOTHING ZERO you are that hates himself clearly).
By the way - You've done BETTER work? Prove it - especially work that others STATE they like &/or use... ok??
APK
P.S.=> Lastly (classic, *snicker*): Come on now "Lil' JOWIE" (the jealous one) fess up & answer the simple question above (this is going to be FUN watching you SQUIRM)... apk
Time to see you SQUIRM "lil' JOWIE" (lol) YES or NO here "JOWIE" (hahaha) https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256612&cid=56825848/
* Yes, I know that others WILL agree it's FUN to see "Jealous JOWIES" that STALK ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts SQUIRM!
(Like the WORMS you are beneath MY BOOT!)
Toxic?
Freak - get a clue - you're f'ing STALKING me HIDING in fear of me too behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts (worms like you HAVE to fear guys like me & yes, that IS fear, you hiding).
APK
P.S.=> Every SINGLE time you give me SUCH A LAUGH as I box you into THIS VERY CORNER & you SQUIRM, worm, hahahaha... apk
You avoid a question: YES or NO answer only from you: Do folks I quoted say they like/use my work here https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256612&cid=56818248/ (I quoted their actual words they said, only part that mattered as I'm not here to win ANYONE's "highschool popularity contest", especially vs. a HIDING "scrawn" like YOU behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts you do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" whimp!).
* No prattling BULLSHIT trying to "twist things" lil' "Jowie", JUST yes or no as your answer...
APK
P.S.=> See subject "JEALOUS lil' Jowie" & your CRY of the "ne'er-do-well" accusations of "narcissism" from DO-NOTHING "lil' JOWIES" like you always - "ne'er-do-wells" that NOBODY says anything GOOD about & LAUGHS @ as I am @ you, "lil' Jowie" because your WASTED do-nothing LIFE makes it possible - that's YOUR FAULT "lil' Jowie" not mine OR anyone elses - yours (HOWEVER - I give you a FAIR CHANCE yet again to SHOW US anyone has EVER said anything good of programs you've done as they do for me - go for it "jowie" (you can't OR YOU WOULD HAVE BY NOW, "lil' Jealous JOWIE"))... apk
What's this "international cities"? Places like Detroit-Windsor, McAllen-Reynosa? El Paso-Juarez?
There's no time like the present. Well, the past used to be.
Then wtf IS your problem w/ you stalking me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts, whacko? You admit folks like & use my software so FUCK off w/ your BULLSHIT, you psychotic stalking weirdo (w/ your unidentifiable PUSSY posts).
* Let me tell YOU something, you SICK little cocksucker - IF I met you face to face? I'd bust you up SO bad, you'd WISH you were dead, pussycat...
Think I'm kidding?? FUCKING try me - & let me KNOW who & where you are, & we'll see what happens...
(You KNOW I'm kidding around, you little shitbag motherfucker - hence your HIDING behind UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS whimp posts stalking me - you had BEST fucking HOPE I don't find out WHO you are cocksucker...)
APK
P.S.=> Unbelievable - what a FUCKING loser you are, no shit, stalking me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts (big man you are (not))... apk
See subject: The "badass" from downunder (not) who stalks me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts (no justifying it on your end, pussy - period). WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO FOOL? YOURSELF?? That'd be about it as you're NOT fooling me.
IF you're such a badass (you're not - you're a PUNK BITCH motherfucker) WHY POST BY UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS STALKING ME?
Do you post UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS because you KNOW you're breaking laws STALKING me, badass, OR is it because YOU ARE A LYING MOTHERFUCKING PUSSY?
I bet BOTH.
APK
P.S.=> LOL, Lastly - Oh, there he GOES again w/ his CRY OF THE DO-NOTHING "Ne'er-Do-Well" of "narcissism" PROJECTING YOUR SENSE OF WORTHLESSNESS ONTO ME (show me you've done anything good in software as I have JEALOUS JOWIE, you can't & you KNOW it) - so listen fucker - ANYONE NORMAL would be outraged by STALKER PUSSIES like you cocksucker punk - only problem is, I truly DO suspect you are UNHINGED & ABNORMAL so you don't "get it" - go away loony boy because IF I find out who you are (or anyone else doing it)? You're fucked - think I'm kidding around?? Fucking TRY me - give me your FULL name, address, & phone # - I'll VERIFY it & then you can SEE what happens to you... apk
See subject & look @ you PROJECT you've no sense of worth as you stalk me UNIDENTIFIABLY & can't stand behind your words & you've done NOTHING of ANY VALUE to anyone (but I have, clearly https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256612&cid=56818248// ).
Kills you doesn't it? Yes, obviously, it does.
Especially when you KNOW I can toss that right into your shitty face easily & see you "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" when I ask you show YOU have done the same, OR better - since you can't you JEALOUS lil' JOWIE...
* ... & pussy, you KNOW that's how it is - anyone can see it.
APK
P.S.=> Anyone NORMAL that is such as myself - but a STALKING LOON like you evidently can't since you're OBVIOUSLY ABNORMAL & touched in the head STALKING me... apk