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How Twitter Made the Tech World's Most Unlikely Comeback (buzzfeed.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from BuzzFeed: Two years ago, people were writing eulogies for Twitter. Rudderless and without product direction, the company was losing users and advertisers, and seemed unable to contain a metastasizing trolling crisis that was destroying its credibility. Employees left by the dozens and then got laid off by the hundreds. It tried to sell, and failed at that too. The press, Wall Street, and the public were merciless. The New Yorker declared it "The End of Twitter." Analyst Michael Nathanson said that at $14 per share there was "no compelling reason to own the stock," and his counterparts applied "sell" ratings in bunches. Over a single weekend in February 2016, more than one million people tweeted "#RIPTwitter."

But then, even as those eulogies were being published, things started changing. Twitter began beating earnings expectations. Star ex-employees trickled back in, finding a new, more positive internal culture than the toxic one they'd left. Advertisers came back too, as did users. The company finally began addressing its trolling problem. And its stock, once unappealing to analysts like Nathanson at $14, is now trading above $46. It's still somewhat taboo to say it, but it's no longer possible to deny it: Twitter is making an unexpected, somewhat miraculous comeback. It is the first major consumer social company to lose users and start growing again in a meaningful way.
The report mentions four major factors that led to Twitter's resurgence: "Its acceptance it would never be Facebook, leading to a decision to focus on news as Facebook pulled back. Its move to aggressively add premium live video to its service. Its CEO Jack Dorsey's directive to its product team to rethink everything. And a key component of many great comebacks: luck."

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  1. News? by dohzer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    leading to a decision to focus on news as Facebook pulled back

    I really don't use Twitter much, but where is the news on Twitter? Do I actively need to subscribe to news vendors?
    All I ever see are posts by random tech-personalities telling me what kind of coffee they like and how their projects are travelling. Is that the 'news' they're referring to?

    1. Re:News? by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 3, Informative

      All I ever see are posts by random tech-personalities

      Given that Twitter is the opt-in-bubble taken to the extreme, I'm going to blame you for what news you get. Not that I follow news on twitter, but certainly newspapers quote twitter a lot. And not just the tweeter-in-chief's

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    2. Re:News? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because Twitter is accessible from raw SMS, it can be the best way to get immediate news from some breaking event. Millions of users out there are tweeting trivia, but if you're that one guy who finds himself a close witness to a bombing that day, you scoop the world, even if your only communication channel is a flip phone connected to a crappy cell provider.

      And of course it helps that there's this person in Washington who does nothing but tweet.

    3. Re:News? by dohzer · · Score: 1

      Because Twitter is accessible from raw SMS

      Really? I've never heard of that. Is it like an RSS feed?
      - Dohzer, Twitter User Level: 0.5.

    4. Re:News? by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      To be cruel, the hula hoop made a comeback, the yoyo made a comeback, lots of fads https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... made a comeback but a pet rock is still a pet rock. Twitter for attention seeks to climb up their tree and tweet out, 'my tree', 'my tree', 'my tree'. All still an exercise in narcissistic futility, which twit can get the most twits to follow them. Twitter serves no purpose better served by other means, if people did in public exactly what they did on twitter ie stand on random street corners, at random intervals, to scream at passers by and continue to do this regularly, we would lock them up.

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    5. Re:News? by FormOfActionBanana · · Score: 1

      I thought that was the original twitter idea. It was for group communication before phones regularly got GPRS data.

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    6. Re:News? by Bongo · · Score: 2

      It's the microblogging format. I invented it once (also) as an art project in 1995, but using blank business cards at a coffee table. People should jot something on a card, and leave for others to see. It's that short little message, which can be scanned through for something good. It's the focus. Which worked wonders for the miracle on the Hudson, a single Tweet and photo from someone right there. It is those moments. Now excuse me whilst I put on my Jon Ham voice and start talking about Carousels. But that's the point. Somebody is somewhere noticing something in the moment and you want a little message to put you there. And for that we can put of with the billions of messages which are just noise to us. But they might not be noise to someone else. The other day there was an unexpected road closure. Within a minute, I see on Twitter, someone who lived local posted a message as to what had happened (someone had gone off the road a couple hours earlier).

    7. Re:News? by Ingenium13 · · Score: 1

      You can find some in depth analysis on things by a few people. One that comes to mind is https://twitter.com/SethAbrams... Most of his threaded posts seem to be fairly well researched

    8. Re:News? by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      You can find some in depth analysis on things by a few people.

      No, you can't. Because 140 characters (or whatever they've now raised it to.) is not in-depth. It's the exact opposite.

      In-depth requires paragraphs or pages, which is the antithesis of Twitter.

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    9. Re:News? by Solandri · · Score: 1

      To be fair (I don't use twitter), most of the twitter links I see in news stories are links to the original source. e.g. "So-and-so tweeted that..." or "So-and-so tweeted a photo/video of..." Not retweets or re-links. It's certainly much better than the news articles themselves, where I usually have to dig through 3-5 layers of links to get to the original source article, or just give up and search for the source on Google.

      In that respect, most of the journalists seem to be doing their jobs when it comes to Twitter - drilling down to the original source tweet and linking to it directly, instead of the countless re-tweets. Contrast this with YouTube, where often the original copyright holder's upload may get a few tens of thousands of views, while someone who copied the video and re-uploaded it on their channel gets tens of millions of views and all the ad revenue. (If you ever have a video go viral, don't give news organizations permission to reproduce your video on their YouTube channel. Tell them you give them permission to link to your original video. It's all being served by YouTube either way.)

    10. Re:News? by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      I've been looking for someone who understands how YouTube rights work. Does uploading to YouTube include a license for Google to sell/allow TV networks to play it without additional compensation? I've tried reading the license, and I cannot parse it.

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    11. Re:News? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      The GP was was referring to threads. Twitter, incidentally, had the 140 character restriction upped to 280 over a year ago. It is, indeed, possible for a thead (a linked chain, and yes, Twitter does the linking) of (up to) 280 character tweets to constitute in-depth coverage.

      As a brief example (this one's not very in depth, but it gives you an example of how the format works), here's the guy with the pony tail who used to run Sun describing how those RX Discount cards work.

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    12. Re:News? by d0rp · · Score: 1

      No, you can't. Because 140 characters (or whatever they've now raised it to.) is not in-depth. It's the exact opposite.

      Yeah, it's certainly not in depth in itself, but tweets often link to articles which are in-depth

      I think the character limit is one of it's greatest strengths (so it baffles me that they increased it), because it forces people to be concise and get to the damn point, rather than a wall of text that people give up reading after the second sentence (if they even bother trying to read it at all), like some people's Facebook posts.

      On the other hand, being that concise can often lead to misunderstandings which can easily spiral out of control in record time.

    13. Re:News? by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      Is that a bug or a feature?

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    14. Re:News? by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      What the fuck is wrong with people? That's pretty unreadable garbage. Why do you prefer a dozen different snippits with all the clutter of single tweets around them interspersed with images that don't add to the conversation to a couple of dense paragraphs? For fucks sake, the content doesn't even take up 1/3 the width of the page, so it's even longer and harder to read than it has to be.

      It just blows my mind that people not only accept this, but prefer it.

      If you want to write a couple of paragraphs, twitter is not the medium you should be using. And if you want to have any sort of reasonable information flowing between you and your readers, you need a length that gets measured in paragraphs.

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    15. Re:News? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      It's not unreadable. I don't know anyone who prefers it, they just find it acceptable, and useful in an environment in which you're getting large numbers of tweets. There's nothing particularly wrong with Schwartz's thread, it's easy to follow and he imparts the relevant information pretty well. It works well in context.

      TBH looking at the comments you've made in this thread, it sounds like there's pretty much nothing that could be done at Twitter that you'd like. And that's fine! Really, it is! But what I don't get is the hostile attitude towards its users combined with an "It can't be done, this is all wrong, anyone who uses it is an idiot" theme. Your own comment about 140 characters should be a red flag that you haven't used the system and should be uncomfortable evaluating its effectiveness based upon a description and a few examples.

      It feels like someone screaming "How am I supposed to read news on that small screen? I'll stick to broadsheet newsprint thank you very much, anyone who uses their *snort* telephone to communicate is an imbecile!"

      See also: the medium is the message.

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    16. Re:News? by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      I really feel that not having the attention span to read/write a few solid paragraphs is a huge problem with the world today. You don't get the rapid spread of misinformation that way. You don't get people who understand only part of the discussion that way. Not being able to sit down and write some long, coherent passages significantly reduces your ability to share your thoughts. Not being able to sit down and read said passages limits your ability to understand the world.

      See also: the medium is the message.

      So "Jonathan Schwartz @OpenJonathan 11h" repeated 10 times is the message? Or are the icons showing shares and retweets repeated 10 times the message? Or is it the giant, distracting background that you can easily see because someone decided to limit the text width to 1/3 of the page is the message?

      None of that is message. It's 100% distractor from the message.

      Here's a site tackling the same subject: https://www.discountdrugnetwor...

      I find that far more readable than the thread of 10 twitter posts you linked to. I can't fathom how one would prefer that stupid and poorly formatted thread of micro-thoughts to actual writing.

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    17. Re:News? by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      but a pet rock is still a pet rock.

      Clearly you're not a geologist. A pet rock is not just for PetRockDay, but it's for life. Longer than your species' life. Longer, indeed. than your phylum's life.

      [hugs my 3 billion year old Scourian amphibolitite ; caresses my billion year old stromatolites]

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  2. Without polarization (and Trump) they are probably by Tangential · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Twitter has been rudderless since day one. Monetization was never a viable play. They just depended on the early trendiness of social media to make their mark. Then, âwâ(TM), âoâ(TM) and trump come along, dragging massive polarization with them and suddenly twitter âseemsâ(TM) relevant.

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  3. Re:Without polarization (and Trump) they are proba by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Twitter is making over $2billion in revenue a year, which raises the question, how are they able to spend most of it running their little website.

    In any case, I was going to blame Trump for this growth, but it seems that's not the case. Revenue has been mostly flat since 2015.

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  4. Twitter is important by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 2

    Celebrities need a platform to share their dumb opinions.

    1. Re:Twitter is important by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      And to ensure reviews of all their movie are always positive.
      All other reviews get banned. Every new movie is always great on Twitter.

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    2. Re:Twitter is important by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Twitter has changed our democracy. It used to be that you only got a couple of opinions from the people that the TV or newspapers decided to interview, and that was usually a soundbite at most. Now you can not only see what every politician is saying, but you can interact with them and even shape their opinions.

      Thanks to Twitter I have far more influence over politics than I ever have had before.

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    3. Re:Twitter is important by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      Let me fix this for you:

      Twitter hasn't changed our democracy, but it certainly can give that appearance to those who can't do critical thinking. It used to be that you only got a couple of opinions from the people that the TV or newspapers decided to interview, and that was usually a soundbite at most, created by a politician's staffer and relayed via the journalist to you. Now you can not only see what every politician's staffer is saying, but you can interact with their staffer which allows you to think that you could even shape their opinions.

      Thanks to Twitter I think I have far more influence over politics than I ever have had before.

      Because that's the problem with Twitter, isn't it? You have no idea who is writing those tweets, even if they are posting from a verified account.

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  5. Facebook by darkain · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Twitter didn't get better. Facebook got worse. This is what really happened. With the privacy controversy surrounding Facebook, and no other real social media contender at a similar scale, investors switched their portfolios from Facebook to Twitter by default.

    1. Re:Facebook by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Twitter didn't get better. Facebook got worse.

      Kind of like our election: D- vs. F

  6. Re:Without polarization (and Trump) they are proba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    well, they spend a third of it running their website (!) and most of the rest goes to employee salaries, benefits and stock options, with a little profit left over.

  7. Re:One word: Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Just say what you really want to call him: an orange n!gger.

  8. Microsoftism by argee · · Score: 1

    No real UNIX/LINUX nerd would be caught dead saying "PS C:\Users\cdreimer> dir"
    130 years ago they would have said "Your Slip is Showin, Ma'am."

  9. Re:one word. by argee · · Score: 1

    I had Zero interest in Twitter, until that great President put it on the map.

    Democrats: Al Gore Invented the Internet
    Republicans: Donald Trump Resurrected Twitter.

    Fact.

  10. Re:One word: Trump by dcw3 · · Score: 1

    Glad I searched for Trump before posting nearly the same thing. However, "hundreds of millions..."...nah, Twitter was mostly used by the media already, all we needed to do was let them keep reading his meanderings. Personally, I haven't ever tweeted, nor will I "follow" these narcissists that feel the need to tell the world when they're on the shitter.

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  11. Re:Twitter will die just as soon as trump leaves o by tehcyder · · Score: 2

    I have yet to use twitter and have no desire too

    And so, by slashdot logic, no one else uses it either, right?

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  12. But by ruddk · · Score: 1

    it is just full of twats.

  13. Will they be able to discipline themselves? by MikeRT · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The one thing Twitter has not done is reorganized itself and made a public move to fair and equitable enforcement of its policies. It takes a very serious violation of Twitter's rules to get anyone on the left banned from Twitter. You can unequivocally call for someone to be raped and murdered and stand a good chance of keeping your account if Twitter's "community standards enforcers" and "Trust and Safety Council" consider you an ally. Heck, a reporter from CNN got caught putting crosshairs on the President or something like that and Twitter did not lift a finger to punish him or CNN.

    (Note that this is why people on the right have started giving zero fucks when seemingly civil liberals whine about "right wing violence." I have liberal friends on Facebooks that, lacking any irony, were whining about right wing violence not long after a Bernie Bro tried to gun down dozens of republican congressmen and nearly killed Scalise. These are the same class off people who call mask-clad rioters and people who mob individuals at their homes and restaurants "protesters")

    1. Re: Will they be able to discipline themselves? by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      Haha, no one gives a shit about arbitrary and subjective "morals", they're bad for business. Free speech is better

    2. Re:Will they be able to discipline themselves? by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      You mean violence like this

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    3. Re: Will they be able to discipline themselves? by Shotgun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unless the speech is conservative, in which case it is called "hate speech" and a mob is called out to squelch it with bats.

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    4. Re:Will they be able to discipline themselves? by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Why don't the right-wing snowflakes just make their own social media platform instead of whining and throwing tantrums? But then they might have to go to a 'liberal' college full of 'book learning', maybe even move to California with all the hippies. Why do that when it's easier to just whine on platforms that left-wing people put the effort in to make?

  14. Re:Without polarization (and Trump) they are proba by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1, Informative

    They spend the remainder on worrying if the staff is diverse enough and all 77 genders are represented. Personally I now identify as a wine cork.

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  15. Twitter is useless by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    Celebs, politicians and other low life types, think they are hot & trendy because of how many likes, tweets, followers and what not. Not to mention mis-information gets put out on twitter, then, once corrected, no one believes the correction because they've already marched, burned, or protested the original tweet.

  16. Re:Without polarization (and Trump) they are proba by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

    Clinton and Obama were what gave us Trump. Without them, he never would have been elected*. That the right is now playing the same game as the left and they don't like it is largely irrelevant. It was Clinton who back in 2008 only conceded when the DNC promised her the nomination after Obama. It was Obama who allowed the likes of Lois Lerner to smother the political opposition with the power of the tax man. It was Obama who attempted to gaslight the illegal arms numbers with Fast and Furious, only to be brought down by the death of a border agent with one of the guns in question. It was Clinton who used a corrupt FBI to cover for her ass when she got caught using a server in her bathroom to communicate with people, including the president, while in technically sophisticated countries. It was Obama who called the right "bitter clingers" while Clinton chose "deplorables". Goose gander motherfucker.

    *One of course should not discount the MSM who gave him tens to hundreds of millions worth of free non-negative publicity to Trump during the Primaries or the GOPe who was moronic enough to back Jeb fucking Bush.

  17. Re:Without polarization (and Trump) they are proba by Wycliffe · · Score: 1

    They spend the remainder on worrying if the staff is diverse enough and all 77 genders are represented. Personally I now identify as a wine cork.

    In the last few months I have started seeing forms with fields like "Gender Assigned at Birth". This is likely both an attempt to be somewhat "politically correct" while at the same time allowing them to move on with business as usual and not having to try to keep up with the insanity.

  18. Re:Without polarization (and Trump) they are proba by swillden · · Score: 1

    A president is president of the entire country. This behaviour, that of trying to stoke hatred and rage is not the sign of a leader, unless your talking the leader of some rabid cult.

    Coming from a likely Democrat that is just so rich. Stoking racial divide and general victimhood is the hallmark of the Democratic party and Obama & Clinton are masters of the art.

    Nah, they're amateurs, Trump took them to school. Of course, maybe that supports your argument, since he was a Democrat for nearly all of his life, until it became clear that the Republican party was easier to hack.

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  19. \o/ by easyTree · · Score: 1

    Over a single weekend in February 2016, more than one million people tweeted "#RIPTwitter."

    This indicates to me that more than one million people turned to Twitter to demonstrate that Twitter is on the decline. What more could one do to put forward a self evident falsehood?

    Disclaimer: I don't use Twitter.

  20. Re:Without polarization (and Trump) they are proba by easyTree · · Score: 1

    Is there some way to auto-tag any post referring to politics?

    I'd very much like to filter them out.

  21. Re:Twitter will die just as soon as trump leaves o by Heathren-bert · · Score: 1

    Just old people in Korea.

  22. Two years ago... then by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 1

    Trump Happened.

    Coincidence that Twitter became relevant again ?

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  23. Few crackers are hackers; few hackers are crackers by XXongo · · Score: 1

    "hackers" are people who hack systems.

    "crackers", on the other hand, are southern rednecks.

    learn the difference. Few crackers are hackers, and few hackers are crackers.

  24. High profile Twitter tweeter totally touts Twitter by XXongo · · Score: 1

    ...but certainly newspapers quote twitter a lot. And not just the tweeter-in-chief's

    Given that a certain high-profile tweeter is tweeting tweets that regularly make headlines-- and thus giving Twitter effectively free advertising almost every day-- I think it's no surprise that Twitter is making a rally.

    You can't buy that kind of advertising.

  25. Re:Without polarization (and Trump) they are proba by doconnor · · Score: 1

    "But surely some who calls her opponents "deplorables" isn't trying to stoke hatred now are they?"

    Clinton said that once in a private meeting. Trump insults Democrats on a daily bases on Twitter.

    "Obama made his entire political career on seeding racial tension. "

    By being black? He talked about race at times the issue came up, but not excessive.

    Guess who has control of the presidency and both houses of congress and is failing to reform immigration though the House as we speak?

  26. Re:Without polarization (and Trump) they are proba by Shotgun · · Score: 1, Insightful

    No. But if he had a son it would have looked like Trayvon.

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  27. bellyflop acrobatics by epine · · Score: 1

    All you can do with 140 characters is tweak the reader's autobiographical memory to construct an emotionally laden simulacrum. This is basic information theory. The densest compression possible requires the receiving side to have a detailed model of the message space (descriptive world) in which the communication is embedded.

    Twitter is a lot like a quarterback calling an audible at the line of scrimmage. "17 cobra 56 blue 88 hut hut." To some degree the QB can fashion entirely unique plays: "cobra" might be a direction to the wide receiver, "blue" might be a direction to the running backs, "88" might be a blocking pattern for the offensive line. But every one of these elements is previously rehearsed.

    Twitter is also a lot like Mr Potato Head, where you also work with a fixed palette, but (to some degree) obtain novel permutations and combinations.

    The other half of Twitter is to inject some wit at the seams—clever ideas, like listing out multiple Potato Head mustache codes to reference John R. Bolton, while arranging those codes to resemble some other snide cliche. Har har.

    And the cherry on top is timing. First is good. Waiting to pounce on the obvious har har is also good. Immediately one-upping the counter-punch is also good. You know, all that stuff, all that stuff that was the real subject of grade eight, while we all got Cs and Bs is actual English class. (Turns out, a lot of people pine for the glory days of their high-school varsity trophies.) We just all need to know who's got the drop, or we couldn't possibly sort ourselves into a cohesive snideathon.

    In theory, Twitter could rise to the level of poetry, and I'm sure it sometimes does. But the cherry-chasers will barely notice, and surely won't invest the mental energy required to unpack real poetry, so again, Twitter probably trades in simulacrum poetry—pseudo-poetry that potently reminds you of the real thing, but without demanding actual work.

    But the raindrops, you say, they form a pattern. Illumination by eternal storm watching. I've looked at clouds from both sides now ... Nice gig.

    My gig is inherent calibration: long-form messages from which one can adduce the author's competence and validity entirely on internal grounds (as a first term). This is, of course, a complete waste of time ... until you get further along, building taller towers.

    Water finds its own level. Distinguishing one droplet from another makes little difference at the end of the day.

    Twitter people are water folk; it's a kind of dolphin-circus Mermaid culture for people who hate stairs. TheRealNewton: if I have seen farther than others, it's because I have stood on the nose of a breaching Humpback whale.

    Followed by a giant spray of a billion tiny drops.

  28. Like drinking from a firehose by h4ck7h3p14n37 · · Score: 1

    I tried Twitter out several years ago, but it sure feels like I'm trying to drink from a firehose.

    I work on a computer all day long, so I'm not too interested in spending any more time than necessary using them during my down time. I'm definitely not one of these people walking around staring at their phones or constantly checking for updates during the day.

    Those of you who do use Twitter, how do you deal with the deluge of messages and improve the signal to noise ratio?

  29. I say gnutoo inTheLoo by tepples · · Score: 1

    Does this include promoting GNU/Linux and bashing "M$"? And whatever happened to DeadZero anyway?

  30. Re:Without polarization (and Trump) they are proba by swillden · · Score: 1

    A good manual filter would be to ignore any post that contains "Trump" in the subject. That filter will have lots of false negatives, but very few false positives.

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  31. No usefulness by jf_moreira · · Score: 1

    I never saw the point in using Twitter, other than reading peoples and celebrities rants and other meaningless social attitudes like Instagram. I'm pretty fine without it, for the last 3 and half years.

  32. Re:Without polarization (and Trump) they are proba by richrz · · Score: 1

    >Clinton said that once in a private meeting. It was a campaign fundraising event. >Trump insults Democrats on a daily bases on Twitter. When has he anything disparaging about 1/2 American citizens who voted for her? Trumps tweets are about fake news media (dems and repubs) and the Democrats in government. >Guess who has control of the presidency and both houses of congress and is failing to reform immigration though the House as we speak? Guess who had control of all of congress and the presidency from 2009-2010 and didn't fix anything immigration related? Wake up dayum.