Patreon Is Suspending Adult Content Creators Because of Its Payment Partners (vice.com)
Some adult content creators on crowdfunding site Patreon are being suspended due to the suggestive material they produce. The platform said that they are increasing efforts to review content, due to payment processor pressure. Motherboard reports: In late 2017, Patreon expanded its adult content guidelines, to include stricter guidelines for "bestiality, incest, sexual depiction of minors, and suggestive sexual violence." At the time, it resulted in suspensions and bans of many adult content creators whose work Patreon previously permitted, but no longer fell in line with new guidelines. Now, many more adult content creators are reporting that they're experiencing a renewed wave of suspensions on the platform. Patreon's guidelines for adult content state that "all public content on your page be appropriate for all audiences," and "content with mature themes must be marked as a patron-only post." For several of these reports, Patreon warned that "implied nudity" was the reason for the suspension, where it appeared in public areas or publicly-visible patron tiers and banners. "You can't use Patreon to raise funds in order to produce pornographic material such as maintaining a website, funding the production of movies, or providing a private webcam session," the guidelines state.
Now they're propping themselves up like kings.
is "implied nudity" a reason to ban something but banning weapons that enable you to massacre a crowd from a quarter of a mile away is controversial.
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Since Patreon takes a slice of the pie, it would be nice to see how happy they'd be if everybody who had material even a little bit suggestive took their projects to a new site that dealt unabashedly with porn. Such a site would be well-advised to reserve an area for head-to-head competition with Patreon for family friendly projects. I'll leave the social dynamics of the situation for another day, but I think we can all agree that the people most interested in pornography are sometimes the same ones who would love to have an excuse for "accidentally" straying into the wrong area.
Call the site "Pudtreon" or something.
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it's not nothing to do with moral policing. Credit card transactions are effectively loans. In large parts of the world you have a legal right to dispute any charge on your card as a result. Adult content has a high percentage of disputes (probably from guys who's wives/girlfriends notice the charge). Even if you can prove the charge is valid it's still expensive to do so. Hence why nobody wants to be involved in it.
With corporations always, always, always follow the money. Anything bigger than a leomonade stand is completely amoral.
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"Smut peddlers"? What year is it? 1938?
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engaged in beastality or incest
Someone uploaded excerpts from the bible?
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The same thing is happening to firearms dealers doing online sales (which have all the same safeguards and background checks as in-person sales — and actually more traceability because credit card sales are more traceable than cash sales).
Presumably these payment processors won't allow legal marijuana sales either. The realm of socially disapproved behavior grows larger every day.
This creates a big, expanding opportunity for a payment processor who won't bow to the Twitter mobs and their blacklists and witch hunts.
And pretty much all statistics and research into the subject shows that the best ways to fight teen pregnancies are good sexual education and access to prophylactics and birth control, not repression, pretending sex doesn't exist, censoring porn, or preaching abstinence.
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What subscription service would you recommend instead of Patreon?
There are two different approaches to the question of truth.
The scientific approach: Make up some theory, compare it against reality, adapt it as necessary to be a better fit, repeat until you can't think of improvements anymore
The religious approach: Make up some theory, tell everyone else about it, build a system around it, selectively pick those facts that confirm your theory and with the support of the system you built, push these facts and suppress the others
The US is an outlier in western civilisation. The importance of religious is comparable to 3rd world countries, but not to other western countries. As is the attitude towards anything sexual.
(note that attitude doesn't mean people don't have massive businesses in this area. it just means they are considered smutty)
The "abstinence programs" that the entire developed world (and good parts of the developing world) laugh about are not explainable in terms of western civilisation or education or anything except the backwater religiousity of the USA. Once you understood that religious thinking is the cause for such insanities, you understand that contradictory facts have zero effect.
If anything, contradictions strengthen religious belief.
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Has what's right and wrong changed since 1938?
No. What changed is that we're generally better educated, and today many people are able to successfully reject the onslaught of religious idiocy that was much more prevalent back then.
The phrase "smut peddler" harkens back to an age when North America was dominated by religious people looking to control the sexuality of stupid people for monetary and/or power gains, and so intelligent people mock those who use it today.
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This is bollocks because you DO NOT regulate sex. Want you want to do ? Stop two teen having sex ? how ? Having them a iron udnerwaer with a lock for which you have only the key ? Just get real. No you don't regulate sex (except the separation adult/minor). What you do is restrict access to information. And what happen when access to information is restricted ? Well kids STILL have sex, but they do it without being fully aware of the consequence, or use and info rumor gossip and hoax circulating (like "you can't get pregnant if it is a rape". oh wait my bad that one was a politician - but sad joke aside misinformation is bad). That is why where teen get sex ed, they have consistently LESS unwanted pregnancy, and abstinence policy lead to MORE pregnancy. This is simply plain statistic and whether you are religious or not cannot deny, you can refuse them, pretend they do not exists, but we can all see them for what thy are.
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I'm glad to see payment processors taking an active role in what they facilitate.
Oh, really? And how would you feel if your Visa card was declined because they felt that you should stop stuffing your obese face at McDonalds 4 times a week? And PayPal rejected your payment to your church fundraiser because they thought the group had too many extreme-right racist undertones for their liking?
Payment processors should allow any legal transactions without trying to be the Morality Police. This is also the problem when a few middlemen consolidate too much power and is another reason why anyone who values freedom or privacy should push back against "cashless" societies.
Perhaps we need some kind of "common carrier" laws for large payment processors. If Visa wants to control 70% of the credit card market then they must also allow any legal transaction between consenting parties or they are found in violation of common payment laws.
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pretending sex doesn't exist
But sex doesn't exist. At least not around me, anyway. ;-(
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You want to run your business as independently as possible? Don't build it on top of things like Facebook or YouTube or Patreon. Build it on top of things like HTML, CSS, JavaScript and PHP. If you don't want to learn these skills, hire someone who can do these things for you
Hmm. Why go to that expense when you can easily just outsource to someone that's already done this. Such as Patreon.
Sure, you'll save money in the short term by just dumping everything on a "free" platform, but then they own you
Patreon is not free, and they do not own the people that use their services.
Further to that, most people raising funds on Patreon are earning tens of dollars a month at most. That's not going to cover much bespoke development.