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Patreon Is Suspending Adult Content Creators Because of Its Payment Partners (vice.com)
Some adult content creators on crowdfunding site Patreon are being suspended due to the suggestive material they produce. The platform said that they are increasing efforts to review content, due to payment processor pressure. Motherboard reports: In late 2017, Patreon expanded its adult content guidelines, to include stricter guidelines for "bestiality, incest, sexual depiction of minors, and suggestive sexual violence." At the time, it resulted in suspensions and bans of many adult content creators whose work Patreon previously permitted, but no longer fell in line with new guidelines. Now, many more adult content creators are reporting that they're experiencing a renewed wave of suspensions on the platform. Patreon's guidelines for adult content state that "all public content on your page be appropriate for all audiences," and "content with mature themes must be marked as a patron-only post." For several of these reports, Patreon warned that "implied nudity" was the reason for the suspension, where it appeared in public areas or publicly-visible patron tiers and banners. "You can't use Patreon to raise funds in order to produce pornographic material such as maintaining a website, funding the production of movies, or providing a private webcam session," the guidelines state.
Now they're propping themselves up like kings.
Because you know. Highly offensive boobs or something.
I'm fine with keeping adult content out of public areas, but the rest is censorship.
I thought Patreon was already on thin ice with their content creators?
The author/artist of 2Kinds got hit by this because some of his art was basically too fan-service-y.
Several others posting stuff that is no worse than Sports Illustrated are getting dinged for it as well.
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I'm glad to see payment processors taking an active role in what they facilitate. And in this instance that don't want to be in a position where they are assisting smut peddlers.
is "implied nudity" a reason to ban something but banning weapons that enable you to massacre a crowd from a quarter of a mile away is controversial.
"Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"
Since Patreon takes a slice of the pie, it would be nice to see how happy they'd be if everybody who had material even a little bit suggestive took their projects to a new site that dealt unabashedly with porn. Such a site would be well-advised to reserve an area for head-to-head competition with Patreon for family friendly projects. I'll leave the social dynamics of the situation for another day, but I think we can all agree that the people most interested in pornography are sometimes the same ones who would love to have an excuse for "accidentally" straying into the wrong area.
Call the site "Pudtreon" or something.
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it's not nothing to do with moral policing. Credit card transactions are effectively loans. In large parts of the world you have a legal right to dispute any charge on your card as a result. Adult content has a high percentage of disputes (probably from guys who's wives/girlfriends notice the charge). Even if you can prove the charge is valid it's still expensive to do so. Hence why nobody wants to be involved in it.
With corporations always, always, always follow the money. Anything bigger than a leomonade stand is completely amoral.
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Use Hatreon. Yes, they accept absolutely deplorable projects, quite openly, but that's the price of no censorship. If the mainstream sites are going to shun adult content, then adult content needs to shun the mainstream and see who wins. (It won't be the mainstream.)
How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
"At the time, it resulted in suspensions and bans of many adult content creators whose work Patreon previously permitted"
That seems to suggest there were Patreon creators engaged in beastality or incest, and/or that Patreon used to allow that. Really?
The same thing is happening to firearms dealers doing online sales (which have all the same safeguards and background checks as in-person sales — and actually more traceability because credit card sales are more traceable than cash sales).
Presumably these payment processors won't allow legal marijuana sales either. The realm of socially disapproved behavior grows larger every day.
This creates a big, expanding opportunity for a payment processor who won't bow to the Twitter mobs and their blacklists and witch hunts.
are still pretty low. The odds of her getting knocked up are much higher. We regulate sex more than violence because relatively few people want to commit wanton acts of violence while just about everybody want sex. And if you've ever known anyone who's had an unplanned pregnancy or had one yourself you know it's just as life changingly devastating. Maybe moreso. Blow me away and my life insurance kicks in but if I go knock somebody up I've got a $12k+/mo bill for at least the next 18 years.
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Studio FOW is still online, despite advertising themselves as "creating crazy videogame porn." Before they hid their donations I remember seeing they were getting about $40K per month. Presumably Patreon don't want to lose the revenue so are only banning the small creators.
Come up with a(n electronic) payment system that isn't based on loans.
Even better, make it a "hard" as in hard to reverse system. Of course, to make that work you need something more secure than some numbers printed on a bit of plastic as your entire authorisation mechanism. But if you have that, you no longer have to chase down "potentially fraudulent" anything, the costs to run the scheme drop, and the applicability of the thing increases.
Those that can't feel free unless they are taking other freedoms away always use cowards tactics in trying to eliminate whatever they feel is wrong. They know they have no right but that doesn't stop them. They think they are making the world a better place and if everyone would just think like they do there wouldn't be so much trouble in the world. In other words. A child's way of thinking.
Who are these unelected clowns? Credit cards need to be entirely killed off. It will happen one way or another with competition such as SWIF RPS coming online. The credit card system is run by cartels who extract billions in profit from every transaction in exchange for doing nothing.
They throw security rules at everyone costing hundreds of billions of dollars simply because at its core their comically dangerous and outdated systems use a pull rather than push model.
What we need instead are common interfaces allowing banks to participate directly with only centralized management being to facilitate an interface while denying centralized visibility or ability to police transactions.
The solution is as obvious as it is trivial.
I want to buy something. In real-time:
I give you a single use token.
You redeem it.
The interface should be kept simple and agnostic to underlying implementations as much as possible.
Most importantly system must never try to address payments to named identifiers unlike SWIF's realtime payment system. Indicating identity must never be allowed to be part of in-band token exchange. Trust building intermediate exchanges should be allowed:
I give you a conditional single use token
We both check each other out and agree
You redeem
So long as both parties to the transaction are able to petition/follow up with identity after the fact with ordering and beneficiary banks to address any liability or fraud concerns this is sufficient.
The only security parties to transaction are responsible for WRT transaction is guarding tokens from receipt to the time they are redeemed by beneficiary bank and guarding trust relationships between their respective banks that allow them to send and receive payment. Since system is realtime people will know real quick if their security measures were sufficient or not.
Keeping transactions out the hands of middlemen makes sure no single party is able to aggregate and leverage power over all of commerce. The reign of Visa et el must end.
Next up how the weak teenage bro's at Twitch allows women stream in skimpy outfits to show their T&A for money, giving shit about their streaming policies while swinging the ban hammer for minor offenses by the men streaming.
... FTA:
According to a Patreon blog about creator fees, these partners include Stripe and PayPal (which has a history of refusing to serve sex workers), but the pressure to turn sex workers away comes from major banking networks.
It's the payment partners .
Any objections should be addressed to those payment partners.
Patreon just wants to make a buck.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
This is bollocks because you DO NOT regulate sex. Want you want to do ? Stop two teen having sex ? how ? Having them a iron udnerwaer with a lock for which you have only the key ? Just get real. No you don't regulate sex (except the separation adult/minor). What you do is restrict access to information. And what happen when access to information is restricted ? Well kids STILL have sex, but they do it without being fully aware of the consequence, or use and info rumor gossip and hoax circulating (like "you can't get pregnant if it is a rape". oh wait my bad that one was a politician - but sad joke aside misinformation is bad). That is why where teen get sex ed, they have consistently LESS unwanted pregnancy, and abstinence policy lead to MORE pregnancy. This is simply plain statistic and whether you are religious or not cannot deny, you can refuse them, pretend they do not exists, but we can all see them for what thy are.
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BTW, here's a snippet from their "policy":
We also do not allow other fringe sexual fetish content, such as incest, necrophilia, or fetish content that is hard to distinguish from non-consensual sex.
Who the FUCK is Patreon to DECIDE what is "fringe"? They only allow good, clean, wholesome fucking of the kind they approve of? Not that I'm a fan of any of this shit but I AM a fan of not having other people deciding what it's okay for anyone else to like. FUCK. THAT. SHIT. And fuck Patreon.
because she has the chars 's-e-x' in her nic.
It's not looking too good, patreon.
A content create could just use a paypal button.
As long as it is no adult content.
If it is, he can use patreon which does not have such stupid limitation.
At least we thought so.
A lot of you really need to visit that site and change your lives... pornography is ruining you.
Read this and was half expecting someone in the comments to say "It's not bestiality, it's inter species erotica.".
is not adult content. It's illegal.
When Senator Goodfart and his aids can't get any online smut, book an escort, or order anything fun online, maybe they'll wake up from this dream of moral superiority.
They can have my command prompt when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
I always said that the entire industry world is 99% psychopaths and 1% soon-to-be-bankrupt companies.