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Apple Hired Scores of Ex-Tesla Employees This Year (cnbc.com)
According to CNBC, citing current and former Tesla employees and LinkedIn, Apple has hired scores of employees from Tesla since late 2017, including manufacturing, security and software engineers, as well as supply chain experts. The report mentions that they're hiring Tesla employees not just for the company's Project Titan self-driving car project, but for its other products too. From the report: In 2018 so far, LinkedIn data shows Apple has hired at least 46 people who worked at Tesla directly before joining the consumer electronics juggernaut. Eight of these were engineering interns. This year Apple has also hired former Tesla Autopilot, QA, Powertrain, mechanical design and firmware engineers, and several global supply chain managers. Some employees joined directly from Tesla, while others had been dismissed or laid off before joining Apple. Some ex-Tesla employees who joined Apple this year have not yet updated their public social media profiles with their new career info. That includes Apple's most noteworthy hire, Doug Field, Tesla's former Senior Vice President of Engineering. Tesla disputes CNBC's report, saying that voluntary attrition has decreased by one-third over the last twelve months, and that it has recently added talent from Apple and other companies. Regarding competition with Apple for talent, a Tesla spokesperson said, "We wish them well. Tesla is the hard path. We have 100 times less money than Apple, so of course they can afford to pay more. We are in extremely difficult battles against entrenched auto companies that make 100 times more cars than we did last year, so of course this is very hard work."
So basically Screw the lazy asses?
Could have put a little bit more grace and a little bit less butt-hurt into the statement but I'll agree on one thing: How is it news that a few of your employees are hired by Apple unless the number represents a major chunk of your workforce?
Google and Apple have the funds to build a new car line. So far, nothing out of either of them.
This hiring shows that Apple might finally be getting ready to do so. One question would be, will they stay in the states?
Another would be would Apple consider buying a company like Rivan?
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
If you open the door to an Apple car, do you void the warranty? Do you get to replace the car battery, or do you need to drive to your nearest Apple genius?
Apparently, working for Tesla is now officially a shit show: https://nypost.com/2018/08/23/...
...because they're used to shit employment terms and conditions, so they'll be cheap and easy...
Why do they hire in lots of twenty people at a time?
Those who do not learn from commit history are doomed to regress it.
...be careful not to hire Elon Musk when he quits.
Real fun figuring out a one button car.
collude to set job descriptions, benefits, and salaries in order to "maintain stability" in the work force? I'm shocked at this is very un-silicon valley-like behavior.
What a wonderful, unfiltered, nugget of truth put forth by that spokesperson. Refreshing.
You always bleed some talent after a startup has some success. People move on for cushier positions because startup employment is hard work.
Apple went through something similar in the mid to late 90s. The people who stayed were said to "bleed six colors". The return of Jobs put and end to that :)
Nothing new here- except someone told the truth. Wonderful!
Another consultant who stuck it out.
"We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx..."
Apple has about 123,000 FTEs:
https://www.google.com/search?...
Tesla has about 37,500:
https://www.google.com/search?...
The article quotes that Apple hired "at least 46 people who worked at Tesla directly". Almost "four scores", which would have been historically interesting.
Oh, and some had already been laid off or left Tesla.
So, Apple hired a staggering 0.123% of Tesla's folk (46/37,500).
Given the # of people that work at Apple, they probably hire far more than 46 people on a given day (maybe even a given hour).
BlameBillCosby.com
Who wrote this headline, Abraham Lincoln?
It really makes me question the culture and conditions when someone in a Position of Authority claims that person/people left because the work is 'too challenging' (unless the person leaving explicitly states that). It not only obviously casts a bad light on the previous employee, but it speaks to someone's naive thought that it paints them as scrappier/smarter/more interesting.... Spoiler alert: you almost certainly aren't.
It's like the remember the old Marine ad campaign that essentially said "we do more hard stuff before 6 AM than most everyone does in their entire day." People were like, "And that's a recruitment ad?! That's supposed to want to make me join?!"
It did... or rather, it targeted their demographic. Employers who do this kind of ex post facto version by disparaging employees who quit and (gasp!) get a job somewhere else are just douchey.
Source: I once had an employer's reaction to me quitting was that 'some people just don't like the updated pace since we were acquired,' No, jackass, I didn't like the fact that I was promoted a year ago, told at the time the acquisition meant salary freeze... when the freeze was lifted my as-of-yet-unknown raise would be paid retroactively. Finally lifted, good news: my 1% salary increase would be paid retroactively. My previous boss - whose job I took - made double my salary. The 1% was an insult. Best part: she was genuinely surprised, then angry, when I quit. I understood the acquiring company paid less for the same positions and I was already in the promotion's band but... yeah.... I couldn't keep up... but the three people hired to backfill probably did OK.
If your people are worth poaching, you've got good people.
Obviously the return flight would be an in-app purchase.
I'm no fan of Tesla, but when you read the article, it sound like normal turnover that any company the size of Tesla would have and is not indicative of anything else.
Also don't forget: ... because Tesla had a layoff two months ago that was felt disproportionately in non-car-production positions. You know, exactly the kind of workers that Apple is probably looking for.
Shocking that a handful of them would end up in Cupertino, what with it being oh-so-far away from Fremont, and suddenly available for full-time employment...
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
hah. Like Slashdot moves the needle on relevance anymore.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
You get the unfounded FUD-of-the-day award.
The engineers may get overworked, but as this article proves, they always have the option of going elsewhere if they feel they are underpaid. And you state that you know people that left in order to correct the overworked bit too.
What the fuck does the cafeteria have to do with anything? And which cafeteria? At the factory? At one of their larger office buildings around the Fremont area? The one in Palo Alto? The design place in LA? Some other damn thing somewhere?
And let's have some kind of citation for the "largely drug-addicted assembly crew" statement. No wonder you posted Anonymous - there's no possible way for you to back that up, which means it's baseless horseshit FUD from a clueless dipshit. How's the short position going? You buy the $250 options and getting desperate?
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
I don't know if you've ever worked for a startup that crashed and burned and ruined everyone's mental health and finances and spawned multiple lawsuits and wasted gigantic amounts of seed money,
but CEOs of those invariably sleep on couches as well.
It's not proof of anything except the _inability_ to effectively delegate - whether for systemic reasons, or deleterious personal preference.