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Slashdot Asks: Anyone Considering an Apple Watch 4? (usatoday.com)

Long-time Slashdot reader kwelch007 writes: I finally gave in, after years of Android loyalty, because the iPhone and Apple Watch just worked, so I was told (and it is true). I changed from my Motorola Maxx for an iPhone 7, because I wanted the Apple Watch. Shortly after, I purchased a second-hand Apple Watch Series 1. I have never looked back...and I'm happy with it.

Last week, I was able to buy an Apple Watch Series 4 with the exact specs I wanted... Wow! The screen is a ton bigger than my Series 1. I noticed right away when it asked me to set my passcode...the buttons were WAY bigger! It truly has the "side-to-side" screen...it's noticable... "Walkie Talkie" is super convenient (used with my associate who told me that it was in stock at Best Buy...)

Cool:

1) It's big, but not much bigger on your wrist than the 42mm versions previous...rather, the screen is bigger, brighter, and more usable.
2) The speakers and mics are far and away better than previous versions of the Apple Watch.

But they don't yet have access to "the highly-touted 'ECG' capability". (Fortune reports it was only approved by America's FDA the day before the launch event -- and isn't yet available for "international" customers.) And the software also isn't ready yet for "Fall Protection," a feature which calls emergency responders if it detects that you've fallen to the ground and you don't respond to prompts for the next 60 seconds. ("The feature is automatic with Watch owners who identify themselves as 65 and up," USA Today reported last week.)

"I spoke to several people in their 40s or 50s who said the same thing: they were already considering buying Series 4 watches for their parents for this feature alone," reported Daring Fireball, and both sites concluded that excitement was actually higher for Apple's new watches than it was for their new iPhones. ("We're talking about a device used by over a billion people -- the iPhone," writes USA Today, "compared with an accessory that analysts say have sold about 15 million units.") Daring Fireball acknowledges that the Apple Watch isn't the "nicest" watch in the world, but it's definitely the nicest if you compare it only to other smart watches and fitness trackers. (Though "that's like saying you're the richest person in the poorhouse.") But what do Slashdot readers think?

Is anyone considering an Apple Watch 4?

290 comments

  1. No not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a ton of more open smart watches out there - I don't need to be locked in to any 'walled garden'

    1. Re:No not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They might not have convinced you to buy an iWatch, but they've apparently convinced you that you need *some* watch. That's half the battle, the rest is just establishing market dominance.

    2. Re:No not really by epyT-R · · Score: 2

      To me, 'smart' watches aren't any more useful than the dumb ones of the past. Everything has a clock now, and like clocks, the new functionality is already duplicated with better results on other devices.

    3. Re:No not really by dohzer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nope. My phone is a better phone than the iWatch.
      Also, I can't wear one at work, and my $10 "Casio" which doesn't require charging has been 35m below the surface plenty of times.

    4. Re:No not really by vtcodger · · Score: 1

      Sure, but will it call the cops if you decide to lay down and take a nap? Betcha not.

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    5. Re: No not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buy an Apple Watch? No! Hell no! Why would I ever even consider that?????

    6. Re:No not really by Joce640k · · Score: 0

      Yep.

      PS: All the talk about "fall protection" is a crock. This is a device that needs charging to even keep working. A LOT of charging.

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    7. Re:No not really by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

      A sundial is smarter than him and more reliable.

      Even at night.

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    8. Re: No not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They will have to implement 'charger protection' where an attendant goes out to find the senior who has disappeared off the net and needs their watch charged, again, for the fifth time this month.

      Maybe a 'compliance regimen' can be implemented and incorporated into our culture, where people are conditioned to never be without their 'life tracking device.'

    9. Re: No not really by BooleanMusic · · Score: 2

      Almost. I have found 2 or 3 uses in which my phone connected wristwatch gave me improved user experience. Most notable is a feature to buzz on my wrist when I leave Bluetooth range of my phone. Saved me from forgetting my phone numerous times. In addition, media controls (volume/seek/track) while playing audio with my phone not directly within reach is also nice. Last and not least - pressing a button on my watch to cause the phone to buzz or sound a tone is also useful. Both to find it when it's misplaced, and to override any game/media when my kids hog my phone... In those examples, it all comes down to a control device which is more likely to be physically on my person than my phone is. BTW, all these were experienced using a Pebble, not a crazily expensive, walled garden dwelling Apple device.

    10. Re: No not really by aliquis · · Score: 1

      So you have a smartphone remote.

    11. Re:No not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. This is just apple poorly copying another companies tech ( in this case https://www.lifeline.ca/en/philips-lifeline-for-caregivers/ and now of course apple worshipping nutjobs will praise apple for its "innovation" and how the iwatch saves lives.
      If the iwatch had not failed as a fashion toy it would never have become and medical toy.

    12. Re:No not really by Rei · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Agreed. I've never even been convinced of the need to pay the money for a smartwatch with a screen. Just the other day I picked up a replacement for my old Sony SWR10, for $12, which I lost when the band broke a couple years ago. All it can do is vibrate, use a motion sensor, and handle button presses. But that's all I need of it. It functions as a virtual tether to my phone so I can't lose it, it vibrates when my phone gives notifications or the alarm goes off even if I'm not nearby, etc.

      I don't even care about the fitness / sleep tracking uses; I mainly just don't want to lose my phone. My last phone was run over by a bus several days ago after it fell out of my pocket while I was helping some people on the side of the road (they were in the bus lane next to a bus stop). Drove off, realized the phone was gone half an hour later, figured out where it was with Where's My Droid, drove back, and there it was, smashed to unusability. Had I still had my smartband then I would have noticed the instant I tried to drive off, if not sooner.

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    13. Re: No not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      next you'll need ear-rings to not forget your charging wrist watch and a jingle if you try to leave home without it :]

    14. Re:No not really by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      There's a ton of more open smart watches out there - I don't need to be locked in to any 'walled garden'

      Oh, get over yourself!

      No watch has enough horsepower to run a wide range of Apps; nor is there a robust community of "Watch Hackers" to develop and distribute Jailbreaks or "Alternate ROMs" for Smartwatches; therefore, the concept of a "Walled Garden" is almost entirely moot.

      Give it a rest. Sane people don't look for hackability when it comes to Microwave Ovens; the same is true when it comes to a basically single-purpose device like a SmartWatch.

    15. Re:No not really by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Exactly. This is just apple poorly copying another companies tech ( in this case https://www.lifeline.ca/en/phi... and now of course apple worshipping nutjobs will praise apple for its "innovation" and how the iwatch saves lives.
      If the iwatch had not failed as a fashion toy it would never have become and medical toy.

      Except that Lifeline (which Philips didn't invent either) relies on a SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE. Apple's proposed system relies on the 911 network that is included with everyone's taxes.

    16. Re:No not really by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Sure, but will it call the cops if you decide to lay down and take a nap? Betcha not.

      No, because it gives you a minute after it detects a fall to cancel a visual/haptic/audible alert before it automatically dials 911/999 (or whatever you have set). And then, it acts like a speakerphone, giving you the ability to tell the 911 Operator to Disregard the call.

      Plus, I would bet that the software will look at acceleration (and deceleration) to determine the difference between laying-down and falling-down.

    17. Re:No not really by mustafap · · Score: 1

      Garmin Forerunner. Free apps by the dozen and an SDK if you like making your own.

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    18. Re:No not really by fizzer06 · · Score: 1

      Nope. Me neither.

    19. Re:No not really by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      That's the thing for me too. I will consider buying a smart watch when they are cheap enough that I will not regret the purchase if it turns out it's useless. Maybe I should get a refurbished Pebble.

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    20. Re:No not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that Lifeline (which Philips didn't invent either) relies on a SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE. Apple's proposed system relies on the 911 network that is included with everyone's taxes.

      So it works everywhere, not just in places that have 911.

    21. Re:No not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prove it or STFU

    22. Re: No not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My smart watch lasts 35 days on a charge and has an always on screen.

      Your move.

    23. Re:No not really by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Garmin Forerunner. Free apps by the dozen and an SDK if you like making your own.

      The Apple Watch has all that and more; but they are still a drop in the bucket compared with phone and tablet Apps.
      So, What's your point?

  2. No way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bought a calculator watch at Walmart. 19.99 CDN!

  3. apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hell no!

    1. Re: apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you buy a Rolex?

  4. Got a question first. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why the fuck do I even need all that shit in a watch, much less fork out over $400 for it?

    1. Re:Got a question first. by arth1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's much more than $400. You need an Apple phone too. And a plan. For the $400 watch (with LTE), also a second plan with the same provider as your phone.

      And a second watch for when it's on the charger, which will be quite often.

    2. Re: Got a question first. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed! You need a day watch and a night watch. Otherwise, what's even the point of having an Apple Watch if it's not going to capture all these sleep metrics?

  5. Nice ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really nice.

  6. Not me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Casio calculator watch. Best watch a man can buy.

  7. Nope by p51d007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And, as with Fakebook...if "the elderly" (according to the youth, that probably means anyone over 40) start wearing apple watches constantly, the "youth" will do like they are with Fakebook, and find something else LOL. Ewwwwww...granny has the same watch I do, yuck! I better find something else. I don't want an "old people's" watch.

    1. Re:Nope by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Whoa their partner. I am well beyond forty and as soon as I got a smart phone, I took off my watch and never put it back on again and I only got a smart phone when it could do a whole lot more than make calls (I tend to use my phone to make calls rather than receive them, I tend to put it another room, when I am not using it and ignore the messages, unless I am waiting for something specific. I prefer a land line and answering machine, kind of liberating to not answer a mobile phone when out and about, when ever you choose to be disconnected).

      I have a smart phone to use it when ever I want to use it and not to be used or controlled by it, make a call when ever I want and only receive calls specifically when I am in the mood to receive a specific call, I own myself my device does not own me.

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    2. Re: Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      time for an ass kicking and a swirly, nerd

    3. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And, as with Fakebook...if "the elderly" (according to the youth, that probably means anyone over 40) start wearing apple watches
      constantly, the "youth" will do like they are with Fakebook, and find something else LOL.
      Ewwwwww...granny has the same watch I do, yuck! I better find something else. I don't want an "old people's" watch.

      .

      If I heard you saying the idiocy you wrote above, I'd teach you a lesson about respect for others.

      Yeah, I am old, and you better believe I can kick your as through the roof of your skull, you stupid little punkass piece of shit.

    4. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The watch has helped me become more health conscious. I plan on getting one for for my parents and my grandma for Christmas.

    5. Re: Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah right lol, $1200 in presents on a gamble it helps fitness engagement, when if the person doesn't like watches it'll go into storage, to be obsolete in 18 months. Awful gift idea.

    6. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I am well beyond forty .... I prefer a land line and answering machine"

      Peepaw, you're well over 80.

    7. Re:Nope by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      You can get $20 Fitbits for that, and Fitbit clones for even less. No need to spend $1200.

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    8. Re:Nope by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      I agree. What do I need an Apple Watch for? Hell, what do I need ANY watch for, since my phone (even a fairly stupid phone) does time, alarms, that sort of thing....

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    9. Re: Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are selling to young people that's the wrong demographic.

      They buy casios and swatches not Rolexes.

      You want to be selling very over priced stuff to middle age and old people. Like almost all expensive watch brands.

    10. Re: Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BullyGeezer,

      The vast majority of kids in any generation have and always will think whatever their grandparents/parents are into is definitionally uncool. Time to lay off the booze (the cause of your ultra-thin skin?) and grow the F up.

    11. Re: Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      âYou can get $20 Fitbits for that, and Fitbit clones for even less. â

      And these cheap devices are much better at providing false information, ideal for reaping inheritance! âoeEdna! My heartbeat (pant) is only 110 (pant) fit as a fiddle! (Falls down dead from heart attack)

    12. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're buying the $1200 version, you've already jumped way past the basics and into the jewelry value, which the fitbit isn't getting anywhere near.

      Certainly one can argue that jewelry is useless, it doesn't do anything and money shouldn't be wasted on it.. Necklaces, bracelets, rings, earrings, body piercings, tattoos - all about as useless as one can get. At least the watch does something beyond its aesthetic value.

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    13. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...as soon as I got a smart phone, I took off my watch and never put it back on again...

      You do know ordinary mobile phones always had clocks. I've never worn a watch since I had a phone, and I've never had a smart phone, nor do I want one.

    14. Re:Nope by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      That ship sailed long ago and the iPhone still remains popular.

      The iPhone is by far the most popular model with people over 40. They are more likely to have the disposable income, it's seen as a safe option by people who know little about smartphones and who aren't too dedicated to fashion etc.

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    15. Re:Nope by Solandri · · Score: 1

      The best products succeed because they are practical, not because they are trendy. That's why Google (which ranked search results based on number of referring links) won out over Altavista (which just used frequency of occurrence) and Yahoo (which used human-picked or -created links). If smartwatches are going to be a thing, then they will succeed with both old and new generation alike. (Which isn't to say someone can't make a fortune marketing them as a fashion trend.)

    16. Re:Nope by MisterSquid · · Score: 1

      tl;dr: Recommending Fitbit over Apple Watch is like recommending OS/2 over Windows.

      As early as 2016, Professor Scott Galloway (currently NYU Stern School of Business) alerted that Fitbit is a loser simultaneously arguing that Apple Watch is actually a second screen for iPhone. Since then Apple Watch has added cellular, but Galloway's "second screen" theory still seems about right. A couple years later, Galloway revisited his remarks that Fitbit is going to go out of business.

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    17. Re:Nope by dryeo · · Score: 1

      Now and again an OS/2 box dies after 25 years of running unnoticed in a closet and suddenly an organization becomes aware that they had an OS/2 box. Can you imagine firing up a Windows box and leaving it running for 25 years?

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    18. Re: Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To me, there will always be a place for a traditional watch. I have a Breitling, Rolex, Zenith and a sweet Breguet. Pride of ownership and appreciation for the craftsmanship and engineering will keep me buying new ones for as long as Iâ(TM)m alive. To each his own, however.

    19. Re:Nope by MisterSquid · · Score: 1

      I'm with you on that one. It seems nothing in the business and consumer computing space is designed to last 5 years, let alone 25.

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    20. Re: Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. OS/2 was awesome. I started using it back in the early 90s, maybe it was called Warp then? The object oriented desktop was the best part. Drag an app and its sub folders anywhere - desktop, hard drive etc - and all links and registry type entries were automatically updated with the new path. It was and is superior to windows in almost all ways with the exception of app support.

    21. Re: Nope by dryeo · · Score: 1

      It's long in the tooth by modern standards. The SMP support is simple, better turn off hyper-threading and a few days of running Firefox and you'll run out of address space (mostly due to memory fragmentation) and be forced to reboot. Then there are the other 1990's limits such as a max of 2TB HD support and having to get tricky with the CHS values for that and only VESA graphics support for any video cards made in the last dozen years.

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    22. Re:Nope by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 0

      Whoa their partner. I am well beyond forty and as soon as I got a smart phone, I took off my watch and never put it back on again and I only got a smart phone when it could do a whole lot more than make calls (I tend to use my phone to make calls rather than receive them, I tend to put it another room, when I am not using it and ignore the messages, unless I am waiting for something specific. I prefer a land line and answering machine, kind of liberating to not answer a mobile phone when out and about, when ever you choose to be disconnected).

      I have a smart phone to use it when ever I want to use it and not to be used or controlled by it, make a call when ever I want and only receive calls specifically when I am in the mood to receive a specific call, I own myself my device does not own me.

      What a useless, off topic, and uninformed rant.

      I am "well past 40" myself, and can personally see the utility for a wide-range of people in our age group who would benefit from an always-watching (no pun) heart rate monitor and always-available ECG/EKG. Add to that the fall-detection and always-available panic-button, both of which could potentially save significant numbers of people every year, and you should frankly be ashamed of being so shortsighted and self-centered to even POST your irrelevant diatribe.

      Think about it; then think of your friends and relatives that might well be saved by having these capabilities available to them wherever and whenever, they go.

    23. Re:Nope by zugmeister · · Score: 1

      Apple Watch? Meh. Now a watch can be invaluable:
      Check the time while riding bike / motorcycle.
      How long has the chicken been on the grill while you're making mashed potatoes?
      Is this computer / server really taking that long to reboot or is this a watched pot sort of thing?
      Vibrating watch alarms are great in a silent environment, and much less obtrusive to shut off than a phone alarm.
      and finally, what if you just want to know the time without carrying your damm phone around with you?

    24. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never considered buying any kind of "smart" watch at all. I don't have a "smart" phone either...I don't have $1000 or even $75 to waste on devices that can potentially spy on me in more ways than I can probably imagine! I especially would never consider buying any of (Cr)apple's insanely vastly overpriced cheaply made junk!!

    25. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which has what to do with anything? Do you really let fashions and trends dictate how you see the world? If you do then you're a real cunt.

    26. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      see the utility for a wide-range of people in our age group who would benefit from an always-watching (no pun) heart rate monitor and always-available ECG/EKG. Add to that the fall-detection and always-available panic-button

      Yes it's a safety device for old people.

    27. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That ship sailed long ago and the iPhone still remains popular.

      Of course, it's like Microsoft Windows. It's the logical choice because it's what the majority have, otherwise you end up with a myriad of different brands and different phones with different versions of Android. You can even get a 2 year old iphone on the cheap and know it will have a couple of years of support left. It isn't a special thing, you see the lines for new iphones these days are getting shorter because it's just the generic thing that everybody has and you can order it online a couple of days after pre-orders start and still have it delivered to your door midday on launch day and you have the exact same thing that these people use to camp out for days for to get 2 or 3 hours before everybody else does now.

    28. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is the battery is rubbish so as a device for old people they need to remember to put it on charge every night and then take it off charge and put it on when they get up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night in case they fall and need the panic button or fall detection.

    29. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes but you are the kind of idiot that will buy anything with an apple logo and then make lame excuses about why its the best choice.
      The rest of us are not so weak minded and easily lead by apple.

  8. Android Wear isn't Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Except that Android Wear isn't Android, its yet another half assed branching of the Android brand to try to sell a badly conceived product. Samsung's Gear is the thing to look at there, and its isn't Android, it's Tizen, with a net result that its easier to use, and more focussed on the task with a longer battery life than Google's crap.

    Really, this is not an Android vs iOS thing at all, its an Apple watch vs Samsung watch market, with some also-rans running Google's stuff.

    1. Re:Android Wear isn't Android by zugmeister · · Score: 1

      As the owner of a Gear Fit 2 (Samsung smartwatch) I'd like to chip in that anything more than basic watch functionality runs the gamut from "iffy" to "nope". Maybe the battery lasts longer but I was still recharging it daily. I've stopped wearing my Samsung in favor of a MS Band 2 (which works flawlessly) and a Casio digital watch because I'm sick of trying to read an OLED display in sunlight.
      My .02, YMMV and so on...

  9. Damn battery doesn't last ONE full day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My biggest issue is having to charge the damn thing every single day... Even more annoying since I like to use the sleep tracking feature...

    It needs some sort of wireless on wrist charging tech... or a battery that lasts a day.... I know that's a lot to ask!

    1. Re: Damn battery doesn't last ONE full day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wear a Seiko that I bought for $130 25 years ago. I change the battery every 4 to 5 years. It keeps accurate time. If I need anything else I pull my phone out of my pocket. If you convince yourself you really need a smart watch, Apple may be better, particularly if you carry an iPhone.

    2. Re:Damn battery doesn't last ONE full day... by arth1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Twice a day or more if you're an active person doing a lot of exercise. Plus charging your Apple phone, of course.

      But even for elderly people who presumably exercise less, it's not a good choice - will they remember to always charge it? I'd think a safety alarm where the battery lasts for months is a much better choice there.

    3. Re:Damn battery doesn't last ONE full day... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Garmin VivoFit. Battery is a coin cell/watch battery that lasts a year.

    4. Re:Damn battery doesn't last ONE full day... by MikeMo · · Score: 1

      I have a series 2 and it easily goes 2 days between charges. I've also found that if I put it on the charger daily while showering, shaving, etc., it will get to 80% easily, which is about 2 days' charge for me. I haven't had battery issues at all.

    5. Re:Damn battery doesn't last ONE full day... by dave-man · · Score: 1

      My self-winding mechanical watch stays on my wrist for months at a time (I take it off only to change times between daylight savings and standard time). Someone let me know when there is a useful smart watch that goes that long.

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    6. Re:Damn battery doesn't last ONE full day... by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      I keep seeing people saying this, and yet I charge my Apple Watch series 3 (non-LTE) every 3rd day or so, and yes I wear it at night for sleep metrics. Most of the time I just pop it on the charger when I'm shaving / showering, and then put it back on and it's good to go.

      How are people getting this shitty of battery life? Are they getting constant notifications on it? That would just be aggravating if they are.

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    7. Re:Damn battery doesn't last ONE full day... by Lee_M_Larson · · Score: 1

      My biggest issue is having to charge the damn thing every single day... Even more annoying since I like to use the sleep tracking feature...

      It needs some sort of wireless on wrist charging tech... or a battery that lasts a day.... I know that's a lot to ask!

      I have an Apple Watch 3 and can go more than two days between charges. It would certainly last a lot longer than this, but I've never really pushed it. (I usually charge it on the nightstand next to the bed while I'm sleeping.) It's not as though I'm not using it. Here are a few ways I use it every day.

      I usually use it to answer and make calls on my iPhone—which hardly ever leaves my pocket any more.
      It's the most convenient way to use Apple Pay, and I do so several times each day.
      I move between three Macs quite often and it logs me in like magic as soon as I get in front of the machine.
      I use Siri a lot more since I got the watch—especially to compose lists, make phone calls and set alarms and reminders.
      It tracks my exercise.

    8. Re: Damn battery doesn't last ONE full day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got a Fossil Q watch and itâ(TM)s awesome. It looks just like an analog watch and it just takes a regular $5 button battery thatâ(TM)s supposed to last for 2 years (Iâ(TM)ve had mine for 6 months, not sure itâ(TM)ll make it 2 years but it seems likely last 18 months based on current usage). It vibrates and moves the watch hands for alerts, tracks sleep and stuff, you can pause/skip music, etc... to me itâ(TM)s a great blend of fashion and usefulness.

    9. Re: Damn battery doesn't last ONE full day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, meant to note that itâ(TM)s called a Fossil Q Hybrid watch. The regular Fossil Qs have a screen, but these donâ(TM)t.

    10. Re:Damn battery doesn't last ONE full day... by CCIEemeritus · · Score: 1

      My "long" bike loop is 42 miles. I'm a bit older and plod along around 12mph. It takes me about 4 hours to complete the loop. My old Apple Watch model 0, while monitoring the ride with the exercise app, would run out of battery about 35 miles into the ride. My newer Apple watch model 3, without cellular (presumably saving some battery) lasts the whole ride and has over 60% battery left. I haven't had to worry about my watch battery since upgrading, but I do make it a habit to charge every night while sleeping.

      I take my phone with me on the ride, and listen to audiobooks and podcasts with AirPods from the phone while on the ride. I can't speak to the impact of listening to podcasts from the watch (which is now possible with the latest OS).

      I've found that using the watch to track my exercise helps keep me motivated. My AirPods never fall out while riding, although I only ride on pavement.

    11. Re:Damn battery doesn't last ONE full day... by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Since you take your phone with you anyhow, you don't really need the watch to track heart rate for you; you could use the phone and a strap, and get even more accurate results, both because the GPS in the phone is more accurate (it can latch on to more simultaneous satellites) and a chest strap is more accurate than optical wrist reading. A Polar H10 strap is around $70, and the battery life is about 400 hours. With a phone mount for your bike (unless you already have one), you won't miss the watch at all.

      I love my fitness watch, but for long sessions where I either don't need GPS or carry my phone, a strap is far more dependable and accurate.

  10. I upgraded after years of using the first model by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I bought the original Apple Watch at launch, and have liked using it ever since... finally with the latest version I figured I should really update, as they've thinned them down again (almost as thin as the original), the screen is larger, and it has some nice new features.

    As the summary mentioned I've also talked to my parents about getting an Apple Watch for them. It would give me a lot of piece of mind to know if something happened it could be detected quickly. The old saying about an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure is very true, even to the point I would pay the (way too expensive) $10/month the US cell companies charge to connect an Apple Watch to the cell network (some countries the telcos only charge $5 which is I think a lot more reasonable).

    I personally have never been that interested in watches that people claim are "better" - mostly I find them too big and heavy and not really worth carrying around. A smart watch always made more sense to me, and with the Pebble gone I'd say Apple clearly has the lead at this point by a huge margin.

    On a side note, I've worn the watch all day and used it quite heavily, for maps and various timers. It's been on about 14 hours and the battery is still at 52%, I really look forward to being able to use this to capture longer hikes or runs than my old watch.

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    1. Re:I upgraded after years of using the first model by arth1 · · Score: 0

      The old saying about an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure is very true, even to the point I would pay the (way too expensive) $10/month the US cell companies charge to connect an Apple Watch to the cell network (some countries the telcos only charge $5 which is I think a lot more reasonable).

      But the Apple watch doesn't provide an ounce of prevention. It doesn't prevent anyone from falling. It will at best alert someone if (a) the wearer has fallen, (b) quickly enough to trigger the alert, (c) if they don't tap away the alert, (d) if they have (d1) remembered and (d2) bothered to charge it.

      A walker is a better investment if prevention is your goal, and not dazzling them with something that they'll pretend to be thankful for.

    2. Re:I upgraded after years of using the first model by Bongo · · Score: 1

      Well, true, like how docs talk about a treatment "saving" lives when actually they just delayed death.

      However, such... pedantic issues... don't mean much when an old person is lying on the floor with a broken hip for three days unable to call for help.

    3. Re:I upgraded after years of using the first model by dave-man · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you should plan on buying your parents two watches each, so one can be charging while the other is worn. Do you really think they'll stop to put on the watch on the way to the bathroom in the middle of the night?

      --
      Bill Gates is a communist -- he's just more equal than the rest of us.
    4. Re:I upgraded after years of using the first model by hawk · · Score: 1

      We briefly considered it for both my father and my mother in law. One *has* been injured in a fall and was slowed for a couple of years, and the other had a minor injury hiking alone.

      But the partial day battery life makes it a non-starter . . .

      I'd consider a watchless one for myself just for the bio-monitoring--just send the info to my iPhone. As cool as the contraption is I go nuts with a watch on y wrist . . .

      hawk

    5. Re:I upgraded after years of using the first model by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Even for a younger person, in the case of something like a heart attack, a few minutes can mean the difference between survival and getting fitted for a toe tag.

      If you hit the ground and hold in the emergency call button conveniently on your wrist (which is far more likely than fumbling through your pocket trying to get a phone out, etc.) you may gain enough time to at least increase the odds. Not saying it will go any better for someone, but it's at least plausible.

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    6. Re:I upgraded after years of using the first model by arth1 · · Score: 0

      True, but for an initial cost of a thousand dollars plus a monthly fee of $30 or more, I can think of a lot of things that would increase survival expectancy far more for most people, like exercise gear and healthier food.
      And a "wellness alarm" (I believe that's the latest euphemism) around the neck would work just as well for young people as old, with far better battery life, but I don't see many buying one for themselves.

  11. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No.

  12. Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yep

    1. Re: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Iâ(TM)ve had a first generation Apple Watch since shortly after they came out. I charge it every night and it lasts all day. The new health monitoring features are more than worth the money.

  13. I take it back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't buy the Samsung watch, I see it requires you sign up for a Samsung account to install a stopwatch and timer app (!). They're not installed by default.

    I have this shit with Bixby on my Note, and rejected Samsung phone's for my wife because of this: [to turn off Bixby button you need to have a Samsung account, which requires you accept Bixby's and Samsung's privacy policy first, and then you find out, it still collects all the data, it only disables the Bixby button].

    Anything that requires you agree to surveillance to use the device for basic functions should not be purchased.

    1. Re: I take it back by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 2

      Right. So the Samsung watch and the Apple watch are both completely out of the question. My Casio watch has those fgunctions built it and doesn't need to be registered.

      Of course, the whole point in having a 'smart' watch is for it's connectivity, so your paranoid quip is ludicrous.

  14. Watch from my childhood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given the option, I would rather wear this Casio Men's CA53W-1 Calculator Watch than any Apple Watch.

    The Nostalgia is strong with this one.

    1. Re: Watch from my childhood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^ found the suspect.

  15. Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I still just look on my phone. Old school I guess.

    1. Re: Not really by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      So you must be one of those people I see who dedicate one of your hands to always having the phone in it. I saw two of you, a couple, in the line in front of me at Dairy Queen last night. They otherwise looked like ordinary people.

    2. Re:Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, using a mobile phone is Old School already?

      Tempus fugit.

  16. I have a smart phone I take everywhere by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    Why would I need or want a watch as a peripheral ?

    1. Re:I have a smart phone I take everywhere by arth1 · · Score: 2

      Watches are useful to tell the time, also when your hands are full or busy. Real watches, that is.

    2. Re:I have a smart phone I take everywhere by Crashmarik · · Score: 4, Funny

      You kids and your fancy mainsprings and escapements in my day we used the sun and were happy about it.

    3. Re:I have a smart phone I take everywhere by magusxxx · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but how many human sacrifices did you have to make to make sure it came back the next day?

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      Care killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.
    4. Re:I have a smart phone I take everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Why would I need or want a watch as a peripheral ?"

      It's not a watch.
      It's a wearable electrocardiogram, heart monitor, communication machine that can also tell the time.

      Your microwave also has a watch, so you don't need a smartphone, yes?

    5. Re:I have a smart phone I take everywhere by DethLok · · Score: 1

      Answer to question posed by OP is: Nope.

      Response to artr1: Yeah, but if what you're doing with your hands is so important, you don't NEED to know the time. Or need to know who just called or texted or liked or shared your post. That's assuming you don't have a clock on the desk or wall in the room in which you are too busy to look at your phone to know the time, as you would if being so busy with your hands is common - while needing to know the time.

      When your hands are free and you desire to know the time, or check emails, texts, social media, news etc, then you pull out your phone and look.

      While I'm sure many people (but a minority of the worlds population) have a need for a smart watch, specifically the latest Apple watch, I believe that most of the 7and counting billion of us will cope just fine without one.

      I enjoyed not needing a watch once I'd obtained a mobile phone, and at the moment I see no reason for myself, nor for many others, to ever want something strapped to our wrists again.

      Your mileage may vary, of course.

    6. Re: I have a smart phone I take everywhere by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      I enjoy not needing social media. My watch is on my wrist to show the time. My phone is handy in my pocket for things like convenience while shopping:

      Last week I again found a used book on the shelf at Half-Price books. But they wanted $8 for it. So I pulled up a search on abe.com (a consortium of hundreds of used book dealers worldwide) and ordered a copy from some place in Florida for $3.99, shipping included.

    7. Re: I have a smart phone I take everywhere by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Most people don't need an EKG as a wearable peripheral. If you need that sort of monitoring, you get it implanted. If not, an inexpensive bluetooth peripheral to perform the function is more practical. You do NOT need an EKG monotoring you 24/7. Cardiologists are probably going to need to figure out ways to filter out the noise from twinks using these gadgets.

    8. Re:I have a smart phone I take everywhere by tgeek · · Score: 1

      Why would I need or want a watch as a peripheral ?

      It's handy as an extension to the iphone. In my case, I generally carry the phone in my pants pocket. If i get a call or text, it's a PITA (not literally) to get the phone out of my pocket - especially while driving - to answer the call or glance at the text. Having all that stuff available at my wrist really has proved to be quite convenient. $400+ convenient? Don't know about that (my employer provided the watch). Could I have solved my issues with non-watch solutions? (belt holster, bluetooth earpiece, etc.) Sure. But not as conveniently as with the watch

      All the little apps available? Dunno, after the initial "play with my new toy" period, I haven't touched any of them.

    9. Re:I have a smart phone I take everywhere by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Response to artr1: Yeah, but if what you're doing with your hands is so important, you don't NEED to know the time.

      From this, I gather that you never ride a bike, or never walk to the bus/tube/train/plane with bags in both hands, wondering if you'll make it on time.

      Imagine this then: You're eating wings and drinking beer, and wonder if you have time for another beer. Your fingers are too greasy to pick the phone out of your pocket (unless you're a slob who doesn't care), so wot do? Just glance at your wrist.

      Being able to quickly tell the time with just a glance is effective. That's why wrist watches became disruptive technology, taking over for pocket watches. Using a phone to check the time is using it as a pocket watch, which is a step back.

    10. Re:I have a smart phone I take everywhere by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      Please have a heart

    11. Re:I have a smart phone I take everywhere by arth1 · · Score: 1

      You kids and your fancy mainsprings and escapements in my day we used the sun and were happy about it.

      I use my watch and the sun in combination as a compass - does that count?

      (Point the small hand at the sun; North is halfway between it and the twelve o'clock position. If you want to be more exact, add or remove the amount of arc minutes you're distant from the meridian for your time zone, and thirty arc minutes if DST.)

    12. Re:I have a smart phone I take everywhere by DethLok · · Score: 1

      For 8-9 months of the year I do indeed ride a bike (pedal powered, not motor) to work and back home again, it's why I bought my house bike riding distance from work. I hope to restart riding this week, actually, now that it's finally warmed up to make it 'not cold'!

      And no, I don't need to know the time while riding my bike to work or to home, and if I do need to know the time the few rare times I might ride my bike elsewhere, I stop and pull out my phone. Time isn't that important to me that I can't spare 30 seconds of it to get the phone out of my backpack to find out what time it is!

      And if I'm eating wings and drinking beer, my beer hand is clean (though perhaps moist from the glass) and is able to use my phone. I eat wings one handed .Or... ask for some napkins/serviettes if the wings are covered in slimy sticky slippery sauce, so that I can clean at least one hand when required.

      And that's assuming there is no clock in the bar/restaurant - which, now you've made me think of it, is a good assumption - so I'd just ask someone nearby for the time. The bartender/wait staff will certainly know how long it is until their shift is over!

      I agree that a wrist watch is effective and useful, certainly, that's why I wore one until I got a mobile phone - and I'm old enough to remember and have said, many times. "hello operator, please dial 84 for me". I remember mobile phones that were a handset attached to briefcase. And I owned a Nokia 3110.

      Get off my lawn! :)

      If you want to know the time? Wear a $20 digital watch that tells the time, and has the date and on which you can set alarms if you don't want to be late, and that requires recharging (via replacing the battery) about once a year. That would seem to fulfill many uses of a smart watch, no?

      If you want to use a smart phone, use a smart phone.

      Buying a smart watch, at least for me, and for how my life works - is not required, not immediately useful and certainly expensive. I'd rather spend that much money on getting the ceiling in my toilet fixed, thanks.

    13. Re: I have a smart phone I take everywhere by DethLok · · Score: 1

      Ha, me too.

      Social media? It's meant to benefit me, not obligate me.

      Oooh, abe.com? Thanks for the tip!

    14. Re:I have a smart phone I take everywhere by arth1 · · Score: 1

      I agree fully that a smart watch is a dumb idea.
      A time telling wrist watch, on the other hand, is a clever idea.
      And a fitness device can be a good thing too.

      But something that tells me I have a phone call or text message, or that the weather is sunny, or streams music or does tap payments which the phone does already, no, I have no need for that on my wrist.

      So I wear a mechanical watch for easy telling of the time, and a fitness device on my other wrist, to monitor my heart rate and speed during workouts, and to tell me how long I've been running. Never would I want to combine the two, any more than I would want an all-in-one entertainment centre. Discrete components that do their job well is much better than jack-of-all-trades.

    15. Re:I have a smart phone I take everywhere by DethLok · · Score: 1

      Yes!

      We agree on this! :)

      As an aside, if you look at the time on your wristwatch when you start running, and then again whenever you want to know how long you've been running, basic base 12 (I think?) math tells you how long you've been running, no need for a Fitbit for that (heart rate aside, and telling your own pulse is a skill used with... a watch). And you measure your speed by how long it takes you to cover a given distance. Again, by looking at your wristwatch.

      Having had an all-in-one entertainment centre, I again agree with you, discrete components are better, though more expensive. But over time, I'd consider them less expensive, yes.

  17. Why? What Need Does This Address? by brian.stinar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I got a free Android watch after evaluating some custom software on it. I gave it to my intern, since it did not add anything to my life, and required me to put on a watch, and charge it. Those were negatives. I was also constantly disappointed by the lack of features - the Android watch basically seemed like a phone extension that made it so I had three extra buttons for my phone, that I could control from my watch. Was this in case I was too lazy / disabled / intoxicated to control my phone? I don't see the value of controlling my phone from my watch, when I could reach into my pocket and control my phone. While riding my bicycle, and listening to audiobooks, or podcasts, I don't need to control my phone past what I can do on my bluetooth headset. I don't think an Apple watch would add anything to my life either, and it would subtract the exact same as my Android watch, but significantly more since I'd have to buy an Apple phone, and the watch.

    I received a FitBit Charge HR for Christmas. It was fun to use especially with my girlfriend at the time. That one broke across the band, since in addition to owning a software company, I also own apartments and do my own repairs, with my hands. Having a watch while doing a lot of physical work is not convenient at all. FitBit replaced it, for free, since it was under warranty. Then, I broke this one in the exact same way. My mom gave me hers, and this one worked for a while, until I started getting a rash from it. I'd alternate it between both hands, and then both my hands had a rash. Then I started wearing it around my ankle, like a prisoner ankle bracelet. That one eventually broke across the bands as well. I could have purchased replacement bands, and fixed these. However, after 3x of them breaking, I decided these pieces of crap weren't worth the replacement costs, even in terms of me ordering a replacement band and using my small screwdrivers to put the sensor into a new band. They definitely weren't work buying a new one.

    It makes me feel sad thinking that so many of my countrymen gain excitement from the crap that they buy, rather than anything that they do. How can someone seriously gain a sense of accomplishment, interest, wonder, or awe, from something Apple sells you? This type of fulfillment is designed to only last until the next generation comes out - and the device might actually stop functioning (by design!) when the next iteration is released. I can understand if you bought a book, tutoring session, telescope, or a power tool - something that extended your reach, your understanding, or your abilities. But something that saves you the trouble of reaching into your pocket to use your phone...? This just seems sad to me, especially when you consider the (after-tax) hours worked that normally have to be worked in order to buy a pair of these, based on median income.

    1. Re:Why? What Need Does This Address? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0

      This just in, there are many people out there with empty lives. They fill them by purchasing novelty. The kind of novelty? Doesn't matter as much as you'd think. At least with Apple products, there is the added status increase by being seen in public with one of their products. A phone goes in your pocket while a watch is always visible.

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    2. Re:Why? What Need Does This Address? by DethLok · · Score: 1

      "added status"?

      Being identified as a pretentious wanker counts as status now?

      Wow... :(

    3. Re: Why? What Need Does This Address? by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It makes me sad to read that you listen to audiobooks and podcasts while biking. Don't you ever want to get away from the stream of words pushing into your head? I like walking the dog up the highway on a leash, and just getting away so I can think, my head cleared of outside interference.

    4. Re: Why? What Need Does This Address? by brian.stinar · · Score: 1

      I really enjoyed listening to "The Science of Energy: Resources and Power Explained" from my public library on the app OverDrive, while commuting, and cleaning. Those tasks make it difficult for me to really clear my mind, since I'd still like to get where I want to go (somewhat safely) and cleaning actually requires me to pay a bit of attention to what I'm doing. I think there are some streams of words that help me become a more effective, or more balanced, person. There are some that take away from this, and some that are neutral.

      These things aren't mutually exclusive - I tend to go to yoga for getting away. I also like going in hot tubs, steam rooms, and saunas for this. Spending time in nature (especially gold panning) is helpful for this too. I don't listen to audio books, or podcasts, when I'm doing those things. Commuting, and cleaning are difficult for me to really relax during. That's cool if you can, but I think I'm a long way away from that level of self awareness and self control. If I can turn commuting from an angry waste of time into a fun bike ride while listening to awesome lectures, I think that's about the best I'm going to be able to do until I get to the Shaolin Monk level of enlightenment.

    5. Re: Why? What Need Does This Address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're making an assumption that we're all subject to that sort of thing constantly? Not that there's anything wrong with this, but still.

      For those of us who have that "stream of words pushing into our heads" locked down (and especially for those of us who have access to miles of unoccupied bike trails), listening to a podcast while riding can be quite nice.

    6. Re:Why? What Need Does This Address? by operator_error · · Score: 1

      The new Apple Series 4 watch offers several faces sporting vibrantly colored, animated displays such as fire or plasma whenever you lift your arm and twist your wrist to look. https://youtu.be/7tP3e8CNTMg?t...

    7. Re: Why? What Need Does This Address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It makes me sad to read that you listen to audiobooks and podcasts while biking. Don't you ever want to get away from the stream of words pushing into your head? I like walking the dog up the highway on a leash, and just getting away so I can think, my head cleared of outside interference.

      Why would that make you feel sad? Are you ok?

    8. Re:Why? What Need Does This Address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All this, but about weddings rings and doing anything with your hands. Especially annoying if you're a lefty.

    9. Re: Why? What Need Does This Address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somebody likes different things than you :(

    10. Re: Why? What Need Does This Address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find that walking the dog is sufficiently distracting that I am unable to concentrate to a sufficient degree that it is worthwhile enough to be credited for that task.

  18. No, it doesn't work with Android by RhettLivingston · · Score: 1

    It is pretty much useless to the 85ish% that are in the Android ecosystem.

    I use a Fitbit. It could be improved. It is annoying that it has to be charged every 5 days because that produces gaps in the data. It would also be nice if it had a bigger display. It can be difficult to read the heart rate at a glance with sweat in your eyes while you're running.

    Mine doesn't have GPS or LTE but that is fine. Why would I want to pay twice for those features? I often talk on the phone while running (via bluetooth earbuds) so the phone is going with me no matter what.

    1. Re:No, it doesn't work with Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It is annoying that it has to be charged every 5 days...

      It's even more annoying in that it's utterly useless if you value your privacy: you can't do anything with it -- you can't even set the time -- unless you sign up for an account and allow them to collect your data. They make no mention of that up front. There's no mention of that on the packaging.

      Dopey me, I bought a FitBit HR expecting to be able to us it directly with my mobile device or computer to monitor myself. It seemed straightforward enough: a mobile device talks directly to the FitBit, collects and stores data so you can watch for trends. There's zero need for a remote intermediary. But that's not the way it works. If you want to use a FitBit, you have to drink their Kool-Aid and allow them to monitor you.

      F--k that noise and f--k FitBit.

    2. Re:No, it doesn't work with Android by DethLok · · Score: 1

      OMG, seriously??

      Wow, wish I had mod points!

      That is 'return to vendor for full refund' stuff! :(

  19. Calling Dick Tracy! by EzInKy · · Score: 1

    I may be wrong, but my understanding is you must still have an iPhone to use the Apple watch. So, until the watch is completely standalone, my answer would be no.

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  20. NO! by Revek · · Score: 0

    HELL NO!

  21. Just a day!? by evanh · · Score: 1

    Let me know when they reach six months on a charge.

  22. no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck off with your advertising

  23. Lol fitness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry. Nobody serious about fitness I know of actually uses these things for fitness.

    Its not even that convenient. Let's be honest, smart watches are status symbols. I used to have one. There is a reason everyone stopped wearing watches

    1. Re:Lol fitness by arth1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sorry. Nobody serious about fitness I know of actually uses these things for fitness.

      A friend of mine bought the Nike branded Apple watch since he had an iPhone, with the intent to use it for exercise. And stopped using it after a month, buying a Suunto watch instead. Those are far more geared towards training, and less towards displaying text messages and streaming music.

    2. Re:Lol fitness by blind+biker · · Score: 1

      Suunto makes well-built gear. Good-old, honest, uncompromising Finnish tech.

      --
      "The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
    3. Re:Lol fitness by known_coward_69 · · Score: 0

      The Garmin Fenix watches that all the fitness snobs seem to wear top out at $900 and for that it seems they are upselling you hundreds of $$$ for some fitness plans you can get for $10 in the Apple App store

    4. Re:Lol fitness by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Suunto makes well-built gear. Good-old, honest, uncompromising Finnish tech.

      I haven't actually used a Suunto myself, but I have only heard good things about them, apart from some of them being a bit on the big side for runners who tend to have small wrists.
      I'm a Polar guy myself (another good Finnish company), because they're easy to use, talk to most gym equipment and chest straps (which usually are Polar anyhow), and light weight and good ergonomics - apart from the biggest model, you don't notice that you wear them.

      For other outdoor sports, many swear by Garmin Fenix watches. I have tried one, but found it too cumbersome to use. Having to use a phone to set up a training, and far too many button presses and menus made it just less easy to use, so I went back to Polar, which like Suunto is Scandinavian simplicity, where form follows function.

    5. Re:Lol fitness by Freultwah · · Score: 1

      I use the Apple Watch for running, which I do three to four times a week and have for years. It serves as a display for the training software installed on my phone. Works well, too. Just to counter the other kind of anecdotal evidence shown here. I know that many people who use the same software also use the Apple Watch app – they write about it on FB – and those on newer iterations of the watch (I have a Series 1 device) with GPS often use it as a standalone device, no phone necessary.

  24. Apple is for stupid people now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since Jobs died, Apple has been sliding steadily downhill toward.

    Apple stuff is more overpriced for what you get than it has ever been.
    Worse than that, Apple has established a pattern of arbitrarily eliminating features which were important to many customers ( headphone jack, MagSafe power cable, etc.).

    I will never buy anything Apple sells again.

    If Tim Cook commits suicide, I might change my mind.

    Hurry up and hang yourself, Tim, so a competent person can take your place.

    1. Re:Apple is for stupid people now. by 2ms · · Score: 2

      I agree with you that Apple has been changed for the worse greatly by Cook. With Jobs they were releasing something that transformed the world practically every two years. Money was secondary. Now they're just a money-making machine that tries to retain the level of design they had under Jobs, to varied success. But I want an Apple Watch because I don't want to carry a phone any more and it actually replaces a phone. Seriously. I will have no need to carry a phone any more now. That's awesome.

    2. Re:Apple is for stupid people now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want an Apple Watch because I don't want to carry a phone any more and it actually replaces a phone.

      .

      The Apple watch might replace a phone for you, but your usage does NOT reflect how others use a phone.

      Example : I use my phone for GPS navigation, and I need a screen which is large enough that it enables me to see roads. The Apple watch cannot do this. I consider the Apple watch a hideously expensive toy which has limited use, and I think you will find many people agree with that view.

      The day is coming when the watch WILL truly replace a phone, for a large percentage of users, but that day is not here yet. What will enable the
      watch to replace a phone is a display which is worn like eyeglasses and which gives the user the visual equivalent of a good sized screen. Such technology exists, but things like battery life are still an issue.

    3. Re: Apple is for stupid people now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why have a watch once the glasses form factor is available?

    4. Re:Apple is for stupid people now. by wwphx · · Score: 1

      I will buy a new MacBook Pro, but when I say new, I mean a 2012, as that's the last year they were made with screws for the internal components. They run around $600 or less. My last two, both 2011s, both blew up within a few months of each other: one the power regulator chip set died, the other the external video card. My iMac was an older generation, but then the video card started failing and it was stolen, insurance bought me a '15.

      It is baffling to me that they'd abandon MagSafe, something that I consider perhaps the greatest advancement in laptop tech. And I find it odd that most cell phone makers are following their lead with getting rid of headphone jacks. I'd settle for the return of Zombie Steve Jobs, I think he'd still be more creative than Cook.

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      When you sympathize with stupidity, you start thinking like an idiot.
    5. Re:Apple is for stupid people now. by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      I think you will find that nobody would argue that point. It doesn't diminish what he was able to accomplish though. The question is: was he able to accomplish so much because he was a dick, or in spite of his dickishness?

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  25. Useless for monitoring old people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who is going to make sure that the watch is charged up every night?

    A device that "might" detect a fall is beyond useless. Use one of the existing devices dedicated to this purpose.

    1. Re: Useless for monitoring old people by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      It's just an 'anecdote function' added to justify the purchase. Let's be honest: the gratification one gets from buying Apple gadgets is severely paced by the annual interval between each purchase. Real enthusiast Apple Store shoppers seek out opportunities to experience that rush more frequently. Getting these gadgets for family members is another instance to feel the rush.

  26. yeah, i'm gonna cop one later by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the bigger screen is nice, and the faster cpu and more ram is nice, but it's not exciting enough to pre-order or anything. i'll just buy it later when it's more widely available.

  27. "...far and away better..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Makes no sense. Ever.

  28. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pe!

  29. Watch ?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I haven't had a watch in about 25-30 years, why would I want one now ??

  30. Nope, they seem like a useless trinket by Noishkel · · Score: 1

    For one thing, I don't use Apple products at all. But more than that, I find the smart watch concept utterly pointless as a whole. What little they can do, I can do with my smart phone alone. Theoretically the health monitoring functions might be of some use, but not nearly enough to spend the money on one.

    1. Re:Nope, they seem like a useless trinket by 2ms · · Score: 1

      That's the thing. It replaces your phone. There's no need to carry a damn phone around any more. I love it. Gonna get one. Fuck phones. Seriously. Sick of em.

    2. Re:Nope, they seem like a useless trinket by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      For those of us who use a phone to talk, you'll feel stupid holding a watch up to your ear if you want any kind of private conversation.

    3. Re:Nope, they seem like a useless trinket by kencurry · · Score: 1

      I have watch 3 and i do like it, but it is not a cell phone replacement. Cell service on your watch is spotty, and text messaging implementation is stupidly bad. You will be very disappointed if you think watch only mode will get you through the day. This coming from a pretty big Apple fan.

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    4. Re:Nope, they seem like a useless trinket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Airpods, you stupid fuck.

    5. Re:Nope, they seem like a useless trinket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that completes the apple douchbag ensemble.

  31. I remember wristwatches by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    those 20th century jewelry accessories people wore on their wrist that had a clock on it.

    people still wear those now that we have supercomputers in our pockets hooked to a planet-spanning network? how retro.

    1. Re:I remember wristwatches by Schugy · · Score: 0

      My wristwatch is truly smart. I never have to charge it, it runs from light, it sets the time on its own, the calendar is perpetual, the non-existent display never shuts down. There is still a long way to go for the modern not yet so smart watches.

    2. Re:I remember wristwatches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mechanical watches are some of the most beautiful and complex things made. I used to think like you but have since gotten around to wearing one, I love watching the mechanisms do their thing, winding it every few days. Granted I'm a mechanical engineer, but I can see why people like them. No matter what you wear someone thinks it's either pretentious, hippy, or hipster. Just do your thing...

    3. Re:I remember wristwatches by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      No, mechanical watches are the the most complex machines made. guess gain.

      they're obsolete and they keep poor time, the world has moved on

  32. Tacky as hell by DogDude · · Score: 1

    They're about as tasteful as calculator watches in the 1980's, but less useful (because I've got all that info on a phone). I wear a real watch.

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    1. Re:Tacky as hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what's not tasteful? Pulling some big ass phone out of your pocket to check your texts or notifications when you could just discretely glance at your wrist instead. But have fun being a tacky-dad carrying a big screen phone intended for a woman's purse.

    2. Re: Tacky as hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As opposed to the tacky dad who worries about fashion like a woman?

    3. Re:Tacky as hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what's not tasteful? Pulling some big ass phone out of your pocket to check your texts or notifications when you could just discretely glance at your wrist instead. But have fun being a tacky-dad carrying a big screen phone intended for a woman's purse.

      No one thinks that's tacky, but even if you did, strapping the phone to your wrist (which is basically what a smartwatch does) isn't solving anything.

    4. Re:Tacky as hell by DethLok · · Score: 1

      Or just be honest and say 'excuse me, I've just got to check my phone for a sec to see if it's important".

      Or, if you do not want to be disturbed, you've turned the phone off already.

      And - unless you're the bride or groom - that's generally accepted behaviour.

    5. Re:Tacky as hell by DethLok · · Score: 1

      Probably swap the 2nd and last sentences for better flow. Oops.

      Still no edit button, but... that has its own certain charm I suppose.

    6. Re:Tacky as hell by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      How about having a smaller phone and having the self-discipline not to check it every 5 seconds? You're not that important!

    7. Re:Tacky as hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tacky-dad carrying a big screen phone intended for a woman's purse.

      You make judgments about people who use a product based on who the marketer's target demographic is? Try to think for yourself sometimes.

  33. Nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I did not need the iWatch 1, the 2, nor the 3. Nor really did anyone else. The hell would we need the 4 for? It is just an overpriced toy.

  34. I was skeptical but want one by 2ms · · Score: 2

    I thought the Apple Watch was just another example of how Apple had gone to hell since Steve Jobs died with their not having a single cool new device since he'd departed in contrast to the years prior where it seemed like something world-changing came out every two years. Apple Watch looked like a joke. But now I do actually want one more than a new phone. I'm sick of phones. At this point I just want the functionality they provide without the necessity of carrying big rectangle around and sliding it in and out of pocket all day. Actually really excited about the watch. Feel like it will liberate me from phones which I've somewhat grown to hate.

    1. Re:I was skeptical but want one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple Watch is a hell of a lot better than the iPad which was a Jobs production, and also received as a bit of a joke. I could swap my iPad out with a Samsung tablet and it would have no effect on my experience, but I would never switch an Apple Watch for some crappy Android Wear bullshit.

    2. Re:I was skeptical but want one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a man bag.

  35. You do realise... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    $10 "Casio" watches are the mark of the discerning terrorist these days.

    1. Re:You do realise... by dohzer · · Score: 1

      I was hoping they were. Thanks for confirming.

    2. Re:You do realise... by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      There's actually people in Gitmo where the only evidence against them is wearing a Casio F-91W.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    3. Re: You do realise... by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      No, that isn't true. Anybody can go to the link provided and see that isn't true.

    4. Re: You do realise... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      That page wasn't particularly supposed to prove any points.

      You want more info? Search for "Casio" on this page:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Count how many times it says, "Detained for wearing a Casio F91W digital watch".

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    5. Re: You do realise... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There's a difference between "wears a watch", and "is known associate of terrorists, has communicated directly with several suspects recently, has been in areas believed to have training facilities located nearby, has recent fund movement suggesting terrorist activities, and is currently wearing device that can be used directly as a detonator for currently used bomb triggers[, among plenty of other things]."

      You're throwing a huge fit because a page on the internet just says "detained for wearing a Casio F91W digital watch." There are lots and lots of people who have these watches, yet there's only a handful that were "detained" for wearing one. I'm going to go with your words smell, because you're pointing at a page on the internet that's on a site that's regularly regarded as "not at all authoritative" and simplifying the complexity of confirming terrorism suspects to simply "he wears a watch."

    6. Re: You do realise... by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Nobody makes it all the way to detention at Guantanimo Bay for merely wearing a watch.

    7. Re: You do realise... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As the story goes there was a massive shipment of those watches that had fallen into evil terror baby hands and they were distributed inside the organization so members performing a certain task could recognize eachother, ie meet a man in a market hes wearing an awefull watch. So yes, the watch was used as a pretext for arrest.

    8. Re: You do realise... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      The "unathoritative" page gives names and details. It should be easy to refute, right?

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    9. Re: You do realise... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      * And citations to secondary sources with background information. Do the homework.

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    10. Re: You do realise... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Nobody makes it all the way to detention at Guantanimo Bay for merely wearing a watch.

      Casio watches were submitted as evidence in many arrests:

      eg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    11. Re: You do realise... by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Key word to ponder: merely.

    12. Re: You do realise... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Obviously they didn't go around arresting anybody on the street wearing a Casio (duh!). ...but In some cases the watch was the only hard "proof".

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    13. Re: You do realise... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody makes it all the way to detention at Guantanimo Bay for merely wearing a watch.

      Yet!

    14. Re: You do realise... by reiterate · · Score: 1

      And they shoot on sight if you've got a keyboard

  36. Longtime iPhone user, new Apple Watch user by lostFin · · Score: 1

    The series 4 watch (my first Apple Watch: 44mm GPS) is very nice. Well integrated to act as a second screen for data from your iPhone (Notifications, control playback, share data) all without pulling your phone out of your pocket. The fitness stuff works great (heart rate, calories burned, choice of workouts) Battery life currently at 66% (1125pm) I put it on at 900am when it was fully charged. I read through the users manual (lots of stuff the watch can do, good presentation of how to use the watch) Haptics and UX are very good.

    1. Re: Longtime iPhone user, new Apple Watch user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eh, you still have to charge it every night or so, which for most people defeats any benefit. I had a series 3 for a couple of weeks to develop something on it, not once did I feel like I'd want to keep it. Recently though someone showed me their $25 Xiaomi Mi band 3 and I was sold! 2-3 weeks charge time and apart from the watch, the weather, and the fitness features which are of no interest to me (except maybe the sleep patterns thing is interesting), it discreetly vibrates and shows me who is calling me or lets me read my messages and I like the vibration for waking up as well - better than sounds both for me and the others. You can swim with it too. Certainly worth the $25. A watch that needs daily charging has a negative worth as far as I'm concerned.

    2. Re:Longtime iPhone user, new Apple Watch user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just bought a new iPhone Xs, upgrading from my iPhone 7 which has been a satisfactory phone for me. I like the new iPhone Xs, especially the very fast responses and the Face ID and the brilliant screen. I thought I wouldn't like FaceID but I am sold on it now. I'm not so sure about stuff like Memoji (mine doesn't look like me) or a few of the other options that apparently appeal more to others than to me.

      I also ordered the Series 4 Watch after 30 years of wearing no watch at all. I mostly want it for the exercise monitoring (walking to the liquor store to buy cigarettes or to the gym to do some tanning, all very healthy stuff, LOL, but sometimes I'd rather go for a walk without having to carry my phone to count my steps). I also want to do sleep monitoring with it as I sometimes seem to have irregular sleep pattern or will wake suddenly for no reason I can discern. I'll also do some of the fall monitoring and ECG stuff once those are available.

      I also like the idea of being able to get notifications off my iPhone without having to pull a phone out of my pocket and interact with it. Having a wrist-borne device is far less distracting than pulling out a phone which might tempt me to do even more stuff with it because I have it already unlocked and in my hand. I tend to get insulted when people pull out their phones and punch away on them in my presence. They are telling me that their phone is far more important than I am. So I take it as an insult of sorts when I'm obviously treated as someone unimportant to them.

  37. Re: I upgraded after years of using the first mode by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    You misunderstand, itâ(TM)s not that my parents have any issues with mobility. Itâ(TM)s that sometimes accidents happen, and if itâ(TM)s really serious even a few minutes of delay in getting help can make a big difference. Itâ(TM)s why I also like that feature for myself, I go out hiking alone sometimes...

    Itâ(TM)s not foolproof, something may happen away from cell coverage. Or maybe it doesnâ(TM)t detect something. But just like I wear a seatbelt no reason not to layer on a bit more insurance against some problems.

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  38. Re: I upgraded after years of using the first mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can scarcely believe I'm reading this. If an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, you would buy a dedicated fall detection unit. More accurate and has way longer battery life. You don't buy a gizmo where fall detection has been tacked on. As the battery degrades, chances of having the unit sufficiently charged for a full day of use approaches zero.

  39. Apple watch is professional suicide by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I unfortunately get stuck in meeting rooms far more than I should. I am regularly involved in purchasing decisions for a million dollars or more at a time. I work in a Cisco world where everything is very expensive.

    I generally am stuck in the room for about 45 minutes at a time while waiting for people to finally shut up. There's some screwed up rule that says "If I have an hour to talk with you, we have to spend the first 45 minutes in a powerpoint about our companies. And let me be brutally honest.... I wouldn't be in the meeting room to begin with if I hadn't already checked you out online. So you're just wasting my time.

    So, it took years to get used to people checking their phones in meeting rooms all the time. But then it got to the point where we consider it pretty normal behavior... though the person who should be active and engaging will turn their phone off or simply choose to check their messages once or twice under the heading of "Let me check for that on my phone"

    Now, people have the watches. And I don't really know whether they realize they're doing it or not, but every time they look at their wrist, they're sending signals of :
    1) How much time do I have left
    2) I have somewhere else to be
    3) I'm getting bored

    Among many other things. Checking your watch all the time says that you're not engaged or even listening to what's going on here. I've been at dinner tables where people keep checking their watch because people post things on twitter or facebook and their wrist is constantly being looked at. Every time they do that, people stop talking and wait for them to return to the conversation... at least at first... but when people finally realize what's happening, things get awkward because you're trying to continue talking while not being disturbed by that thing.

    When the watch starts turning itself on for notifications even when the person who has it is tasteful enough to ignore it... the people paying attention to that person are distracted from their work.

    I have never respected watches...at least not since around the turn of the century. The reason why is that I know you're carrying a clock in your pocket and wearing a watch either shows of vanity because you have a fancy shiny expensive thing... not interested. Or, it means that you have to constantly remind yourself of what time it is which is extremely poor planning and unprofessional.

    I can safely say I've seen people ruin sales meetings because of those watches.... customers love nothing more than being constantly signaled that they're not the most important person right now. And sales people end up easily distracted when they think you're constantly checking on other things.

    I've also seen as well as heard of job interviews where the person didn't get the job because the candidate actually looked at their watches... in the interview. That's a huge "OH NO HE DIDN'T".

    I don't really like the fitbit thing ever... it's kinda lame... it's like "I'm going to wear a watch to find out if I walk enough"... ummm... no... go take a walk and spend some time away from the TV or computer... or if you must... do what I do which is to walk and listen to an audio book instead. When I see people with fitbits... I see people who are so focused on prolonging their lives that they forget to live them.

    1. Re:Apple watch is professional suicide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You should be getting bored. It's not a watch problem, it's a person problem. If people care more about their watches, your meeting sucks and is either too long or too irrelevant.

    2. Re:Apple watch is professional suicide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most devices have a quiet mode, just like our phones, which I assume we all use in meetings.

      I am not "regularly involved in purchasing decisions for a million dollars or more at time."

      But I know how a meeting should work. And if it isn't needed it shouldn't exist at all.

    3. Re:Apple watch is professional suicide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are analog watches also a problem to you? It seems kind of useful to know the time, so you can make dynamic planning decisions.

    4. Re:Apple watch is professional suicide by leomekenkamp · · Score: 1

      Judging from your post is seems your focus and reasoning are stronger than the primitive human urges of wanting to know what the monkeys on the other rock are doing. You also seem aware of the effects that your actions have on other people.

      These things cannot be said of most people. I think these watches are targeted at most people.

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    5. Re:Apple watch is professional suicide by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      My phone battery often dies -- I'm not good at remembering to charge it (truly don't give a rip, actually). Meanwhile, an analog watch on my wrist will keep tickin' and telling me the time.

    6. Re:Apple watch is professional suicide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      100% agree with the professionalism aspect of your post, however

      I have never respected watches...at least not since around the turn of the century. The reason why is that I know you're carrying a clock in your pocket and wearing a watch either shows of vanity because you have a fancy shiny expensive thing... not interested. Or, it means that you have to constantly remind yourself of what time it is which is extremely poor planning and unprofessional.

      is a rather narrow viewpoint.

      Clocks and watches are necessary for most of us, regardless of planning ability - any project manager worth their salt knows even the best plans don't get executed to the dot, there is always variance.

      In many ways we've reverted to the primitive pocket watch by ditching our wristwatches and instead using our pockets. It takes you at least 2 seconds if you're really quick to whip out your phone, look at the time, and return it to your pocket. Takes longer if you're in the middle of walking somewhere or figuring out if you should wrap up your workout session. In contrast, glancing at your watch is almost free. Add in the very selfish ability to keep my parents safer (not safe) from falls and cardiac events, and I'm all in on this kind of tech being a net positive.

      I definitely share your concerns, but also see some very positive potential with wearable tech, with the biggest boon being health safety for my loved ones and the next biggest being "reaching into my pocket less." I also see the entertainment, time-saving, and informative value outside of work and meetings and dates and hanging out with friends - GPS, AR and GPS-based games, paying at the register, and reducing smartphone time (because you'll get your notifications on your wrist) are not negative things when traveling or strolling about town.

    7. Re:Apple watch is professional suicide by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Now, people have the watches. And I don't really know whether they realize they're doing it or not, but every time they look at their wrist, they're sending signals of :
      1) How much time do I have left
      2) I have somewhere else to be
      3) I'm getting bored

      Yeah, it's a sign of a crap presentation. And?

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    8. Re:Apple watch is professional suicide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you should consider that people checking their watches and phones means that the meeting has gone on for too long and react appropriately. I used to work for a company had a rule that no meeting could last longer than 25 minutes. When you have a hard stop like that, things move along at a much more rapid pace and people do not check their phones and watches constantly. Look to the cause, not the effect.

    9. Re:Apple watch is professional suicide by Wrath0fb0b · · Score: 2

      I've also seen as well as heard of job interviews where the person didn't get the job because the candidate actually looked at their watches... in the interview. That's a huge "OH NO HE DIDN'T".

      Boy am I glad I don't work for any of those places.

    10. Re:Apple watch is professional suicide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're making the decisions, you can tell the salespeople no powerpoint. You don't make the decisions, though. Start using your time in those meetings, get on your watch or your phone and figure out how you can be the decision maker some day.

    11. Re:Apple watch is professional suicide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah I've looked at my watch any number of times in interviews. When I do, I explain "Just checking how we're tracking for time, because I'd like to keep us roughly to schedule and I'm enjoying chatting to you enough that we could be here all day", or words to that effect. Have a pretty good success rate with interviews and no-one's ever told me I was rejected for doing it...

    12. Re:Apple watch is professional suicide by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      A dumb watch would also be a sign for someone that works in secure areas. You can't bring your phone or smart watch in, but a regular ol' watch is fine and very handy.

    13. Re: Apple watch is professional suicide by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 1

      Haha... I read through all the comments and while Slashdot is almost designed for combative posts... I think you for yours!!!

      Thatâ€(TM)s the best comment I have been stuffed with in a while. :)

    14. Re: Apple watch is professional suicide by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 1

      They need a like button on here.

    15. Re: Apple watch is professional suicide by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 1

      Not sure how to respond to that.

      In 2018, how is it possible to not have charging your phone as part of your routine?

        like
      - brush teeth
      - use toilet
      - plug phone in
      - go to bed
      - wake up
      - clean body
      - put on clean underwear
      - etc...

      I know I have issues (arrogance is clearly one), but I could not imagine forgetting to charge my phone. Even if I did, I have a laptop and a charger cable in my backpack, a charger on my desk, a charger in the car, etc...

      But I guess ... we are all different :)

    16. Re: Apple watch is professional suicide by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 1

      Hmm... the mobile site makes it difficult to read and respond on the same page.

      I donâ€(TM)t know why, but I have always measured professionalism based on how well a person was able to measure time without checking their watch all the time. It seems strange, but I can always tell based on blood sugar or something else how much time has passed.

      We have clocks on walls, we have clocks on PCs, we have clocks on phones. I suppose I just donâ€(TM)t see the utility to a wearable device.

      I am certainly in favor of things like watches that provide genuine medical utility. Maybe a blood sugar monitor for example. And honestly, that far better than watching colleagues stabbing themselves constantly. But a watch that tells you whether you are lazy or not. Or whether you are walking fast enough or not. I see that as something that inevitably fails. Consider whether you remember phone numbers any more. There are just some things you do not want to automate and want to depend on yourself for. If you need a device to measure whether you need to move more... you need to move more :)

    17. Re: Apple watch is professional suicide by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Because I don't care that much about 24/7 connectivity and keeping myself on an e-leash?

    18. Re:Apple watch is professional suicide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people wear watches because the place they work doesn't allow a smart phone

  40. What do I think? I think you're a fucking shill. by rpresser · · Score: 0

    There's already enough press about the goddamn company. I don't need you fucking up my newsfeed with this bullshit. You don't have a question. You have a job. So go suck Apple's dick somewhere else, ok?

  41. Mark your ads! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Goddamnit, Slashdot.

  42. Passcode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The screen is a ton bigger than my Series 1. I noticed right away when it asked me to set my passcode..." Not to be too glib or anything but my old classical watch never asked me for any friggin' passcode, big screen or not... Aw, progress!....

  43. Hell no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Enough said

  44. Re: I upgraded after years of using the first mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unreadable post. Turn that apple shut off.

  45. Apple Shill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pure and simple

  46. Couldn't cell phones have fall protection as well? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cell phones can already detect if they're being shaken or in a pocket walking/running, it shouldn't be that hard to add it to phones.

    Of course, not everyone carries phones at all time (but neither do they wear watches). It seems simpler to have a medical bracelet that only activates when acceleration sensors trip, then send a BlueTooth or WiFi signal. That should maximize battery life (charging/syncing to a phone via USB, or low-power enough for a simple solar cell).

  47. Re:Anyone into Real Watches? by nonicknameavailable · · Score: 0

    I have Seiko and Citizen Watches and a Pulsar Watch and use them every day

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  48. Not slashvertised enough by thesupraman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's taken this long for it to be slashvertised so it is obviously not important enough.

    Admittedly the bs factor in the slashvertisement is quite impressive, but still, sorry, try harder next time Apple.

  49. No thanks! by antdude · · Score: 1

    I don't want them since they require iPhones. I want a stand alone smart watch that will last without recharging so often. I will stick with my old school useful Casio Data Bank 150 calculator watch! :D

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  50. Side to side screen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just played with one last night. Sure, you could call it side to side, since that doesnâ(TM)t really mean anything. It is not edge to edge. Far from it. They try an optical trick by curving the surface down, but it it look at the active pixels, you will see that they end long before the edge of the watch. I hazard a guess that it is 2 to 3 millimeters of dead space, perhaps more. I was not looking at it to measure, but it was so obvious they were trying to fake it.

    I am not saying it wasnâ(TM)t nice, but donâ(TM)t think for a minute that the screen goes to the edges. Not even close.

  51. Not at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know of too many people who even wear a watch of any kind. I also do not think older people can see a small screen well or want to deal with such a device. I also think there are plenty of good professional devices out there that can perform a better EKG then a single sensor Apple Watch for people who really need accuracy for such health issues. I also see plenty of false positives happening with Apple watches creating emergency room visits that won't be needed. I'm sure Apple will make a ton of money with claims and fancy ads, but in the end this is just another technology device that tries to solve problems all the while creating new ones.

  52. Nope. by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    Nope, the battery doesn't even last a day unless you basically turn it off. Screen black most of the time. Fat clunky, and... let's say it... homely thing. Pathetic.

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  53. Yep! Good fitness and health device! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course I will! Itâ(TM)s a very good device for fitness and the ECG is an amazing feature that can save lives, including my own! It has a BSD based operating system and all the people who have one is happy with it. So, yes, Iâ(TM)ll buy one!

  54. Re: Dumping Android for Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm getting my pop corn to watch the show LOL!

    This will be good :)

  55. Nice next to a mechanical watch, but waiting for v by Camembert · · Score: 1

    I love wearing a traditional automatic mechanical watch, actually I have 3 I regularly wear, and 2 pretty 1960s ones I occasonally wear. So yes I am a bit of a traditional watch fan, the kind who typically hate a smartwatch.
    Then my wife gave me the original Apple watch as an xmas present. I didnâ(TM)t expect to like it, but actually find it pleasant. It is comfortable, it sends me message notifications only from my family, it has handy features like the auto unlock of my macbook air, and I like the activity tracking. In the end I wear it most weekends, while during working days I wear my mechanicals. It still has in essence on day battery, I take it off around 10pm.
    Yesterday I was able to examine v4, and it is a significant upgrade, it is noticeably quicker and the much bigger screen i splendid, and I like the health features. I was tempted... but then my original one is still a fine device, so I intend to wear mine for several more years, perhaps changing the battery and only buying a âoequantum leap betterâ new one, probably with even more heaklth functions, when mine expires.

  56. Yes, I own an Apple Watch 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... with cellular. And, I have been quite pleased with it. As someone who does have A-Fib, I would have loved to have one with a reliable ECG capability.

    I have been locked within the Walled Gsrden since iPhone 3G and havenâ(TM)t looked back....I hated early Android experience. And, I am an Apple developer.

    Developing for the watch still requires a regular IOS app as the Watch app is contained within the iOS app...itâ(TM)s not standalone. The quality of early 3rd party watch apps left much to be desired. That has changed.

    Will I give up my model 3 or buy a 4? Not anytime soon.

  57. -1 TROLL by gavron · · Score: 0

    "It just works... (it does)" and "...never looked back."

    This one person's opinion isn't an article, isn't news, isn't technical, and ends up
    asking the reader for their opinion. It's like those "Mashable" op-ed pieces that
    says "Here are our favorite movies. Tell us what yours are!"

    If this piece was a reply to an article it would be modded -1 TROLL.

    It's not an article. It's a -1 TROLL opinion.

    Apple fanbois really should find somewhere better to graze than slashdot.

    E

  58. No worries by unknown_user_name · · Score: 1

    I am 60 and I have zero interest in an Apple Watch. Does anyone say hipster anymore? Iâ(TM)m perfectly content to let the hipsters lay claim to the Apple Watch. I donâ(TM)t see it getting any interest from my generation

  59. definitely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i only buy apple products. they are more secure, more stable, faster and 100% privacy protecting. cant say that about windblows, android or linsux.

  60. WTF? by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    Yeah let's get a super expensive watch combined with a super expensive phone that needs a super steady access to charging dock.

    Or I could spend less than $100 for a certified device to look after my aging mother which doesn't need to be on a charger constantly.

    1. Re:WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately to the apple cultists in here giving apple money is more important than actually looking for the best solution for their parents.

  61. Re:Anyone into Real Watches? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    I own a few vintage mechanical Omega and Patek Phillipe watches. [...] It's fun winding them up everyday.

    I always wondered what kind of person could sit around mashing a button on a slot machine, now I know.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  62. Re: I upgraded after years of using the first mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No you just want to buy apple products because they are apple products. Its ok to admit it.

  63. Already ordered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, lots of people talk shit about Apple, but they do make good products that just work.

    iPhone, iPad, iMac, Apple Watch, Apple TV, AirPods were the best computing investments Iâ(TM)ve ever made. They all complement each other and interoperate. My only gripe about the Apple Watch is no O2 sensor yet.

    Flame me if you want, but for my use case and life style, Apple products fit the bill perfectly.

  64. Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've already traded my Series 2 watch on a preorder of a Series 4. While I wait for delivery, I'm wearing one of my old analog watches, but I really miss the convenience of the Apple Watch.

  65. Nice advertising by thsths · · Score: 1

    I wonder what Apple is paying Slashdot for this...

  66. Nope. Not a good device for athletes. by ddmckay · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I tried an Apple Watch and switched back to Garmin.

    1/ Battery life. My Felix 5 plus battery lasts all week. My Apple Watch died about once a week. A dead device is not real useful. Yes, I liked all the nifty âoesmart watchâ features and yes, I do multiple exercise sessions a day and yes, I need a device that can keep up with me and Apple Watch isnâ(TM)t it.

    2/ Better health and sports metrics. I find sleep monitoring helpful, Apple Watch doesnâ(TM)t have it. I find V02max estimation helpful, Apple Watch doesnâ(TM)t have it. I find heart rate variability metrics for stress and training load helpful, Apple Watch doesnâ(TM)t have it.

    1. Re:Nope. Not a good device for athletes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow the Fenix 5 is expensive. The stats on the Garmin page say that it only lasts 5 days without GPS, 24hrs with GPS. What workout tracking do you do without GPS? What's the point of a smart watch then? 24 hrs with GPS is about the same or less than the Apple Watch.

      I don't know what series Apple Watch you had, but the Series 3 does Vo2 and heart rate variability. I don't think the Apple Watch does sleep tracking natively still, but there are apps that do.

  67. Iâ(TM)m buying one for my 75 year old mother. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fall detection.

    It will work when sheâ(TM)s away from home versus one of those âoeIâ(TM)ve fallen and I canâ(TM)t get upâ services that only works at home.

  68. A Tin Foil Hat Perspective by docwatson223 · · Score: 1

    IMO - and certainly from my rather different perspective - this is 'boiling the frog' towards an arguably (though hopefully not) inevitable, implantable Apple iChip: They've got FDA teed up now as a partner in biometric ventures and they've succeeded in pushing their way onto online pay. The next steps would be to leverage that into the .mil as a required implant for military service (medical, dental, and service records, including PCS and award orders, would never get lost) and tie it into Public Health and Obamacare as a requirement for services (medical and dental records). From there, it's about commerce and the ease of no hassle pay - something Amazon has stepped into - with a simple wave of the hand. If we look at the political landscape these kind of biometric tie-ins could, long term, become a tool to deny access to healthcare and banking to whomever is deemed 'an extremist' and even declared 'an enemy to the State' since neither healthcare nor banking are guaranteed rights under the Constitution. I'll pass on the iWatch, thanks.

  69. Device is only worthwhile if it's used by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    If an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, you would buy a dedicated fall detection unit.

    Why?

    A dedicated fall detection device is from what I have seen, more bulky and offers a single function. If I got one of those for them, chance are it would not get used - I know *I* wouldn't carry one. The fall detection is great to have long before anyone develops serious risks of a fall, because it gets you help early enough you won't have long term health problems from the kind of accident someone of any age can have. I'd have liked this when I was 20...

    An Apple Watch is more useful in this role because there are many more reasons to use one besides the fall detection, they would wear it just for the health tracking features even.

    Also I seriously question other devices being "more accurate". Apple has done a lot of research and will have millions of devices in the field to make sure that the feature works well. In just months the Apple Watch should detect falls better than any other dedicated fall detection device.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  70. I have a occasional arrythmia... by tigersha · · Score: 1

    ...and was in hospital once because i FORGOT to wear my Fitbit for a few weeks and di not pick up the signs. So that would be a yes.
    And before someone tells me I am trusting my life to an iToy, my missus is a doctor and I have a Kardia so I have immediate checkup if necessary.
    That helps.

    --
    The dangers of excessive individualism are nothing compared to the oppressiveness of excessive collectivism
  71. Re: I upgraded after years of using the first mode by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

    SuperKendall is a perfect Apple consumer. Not too bright, but a lot of excess money for shiny things.

  72. Re: I upgraded after years of using the first mode by arth1 · · Score: 1

    You misunderstand, itÃ(TM)s not that my parents have any issues with mobility. ItÃ(TM)s that sometimes accidents happen, and if itÃ(TM)s really serious even a few minutes of delay in getting help can make a big difference.

    Oh, I understood perfectly, but that is not prevention, it's reacting to something you didn't prevent. You used "an ounce of prevention ..." as justification, which is what is faulty logic.

    I don't doubt that there may be other justifications, but the fall detection is not preventative, it's reactive.

    But just like I wear a seatbelt no reason not to layer on a bit more insurance against some problems.

    A seatbelt doesn't prevent accidents, but unlike the Apple Watch Series 4, it can prevent injuries, which puts seatbelts in a completely different class. The Apple Watch 4 is much more like Navstar calling automatically in case your car crashes, which isn't preventative at all. Still good to have, but you can't use "an ounce of prevention..." as justification for it.
    "In emergencies, every second counts" would be a valid justification.

  73. Square watches are lame by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

    Too bad there is no open variant of Samsung's watch with round display and rotating bezel. Might be fun to screw with just for the heck of it.

  74. Re: I upgraded after years of using the first mode by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    The prevention is in regards to more long lasting damage than you might have had otherwise. Not in preventing the fall, but a more serious aftermath. Which is why as you noted I also referenced the use of seatbelts, which cannot prevent injuries but help prevent MORE SERIOUS injuries.

    Prevention still applies, as this is exactly what I meant when I wrote it (maybe future Apple Watches will include a fall-detection full body force field but obv not yet).

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  75. Usefulness by JBMcB · · Score: 1

    I've been using a fitness tracker for a few years, and just upgraded my old Vivofit to the new Vivosport that has some basic smartwatch functionality. I was skeptical at first, but it's actually somewhat handy. We took the kids to Disney World last May, and when we would split up to do rides separately it was handy to see location texts on my watch without digging my phone out of my camera bag. It also popped up reminders from the Disney app when we had reservations for something, or a show was starting that we wanted to see.

    If I spent more of my time walking around like this a full blown Apple Watch might more sense. As it is I'm usually in my car, and I can see texts pop up on my phone as it sits in it's cradle. I did find reading texts on my watch much less distracting than pulling my phone out.

    --
    My Other Computer Is A Data General Nova III.
  76. Slashvertisement? by fbobraga · · Score: 1

    This kind of articles is what they call "slashvertisement"?

  77. No Need for Communist Tech. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Considering the Wide Extent of Tariffs against communist products, buying Apple is funding Trump.

  78. Re: I upgraded after years of using the first mo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe slashdot should fix the website to accept Unicode?

  79. Re:I got a big boner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Creimer is a 50-year-old African-American and registered Republican who makes less than $10K per year in Silicon Valley.

  80. Alternative emergency-calling and fall-detector? by schweini · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know of a good cheaper alternative that does fall-detection and/or maybe has a decent emergency button (maybe BLE?) and which is basiucally maintenance free?

  81. Re: I upgraded after years of using the first mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The watch pays for itself. A little necklace that summons help only works at home near the base unit and costs anywhere from 30 to 50 dollars a month. Iâ(TM)m buying one for my mom who Is a fall risk. If it doesnâ(TM)t work as advertised or if the battery life is an issue Iâ(TM)ll sell it.

  82. to put it bluntly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck apple. right in the mouth.

  83. Thanks, but no thanks... by technical_maven · · Score: 1

    I have no interest in drinking the over-priced and over-hyped Apple Cool-aid...

  84. Re: Anyone into Real Watches? by DatbeDank · · Score: 1

    Better to own something that increases with value than becomes a disposable brick after 3 years.

    And it looks better.

  85. Omega by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Iâ(TM)ve an omega seamaster. Tells me the time. Everything else, I use my iPhone.

  86. Punch Your Face by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Im seriously considering punching you in the face if I see you wearing one of these personal locators. Being a slave isnt cool you fuckmong.

  87. Your Life Has Fallen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and it will never get back up. just push those buttons for pleasurestims until youre out of money granny, because no one gives a fuck in amerikuka.

  88. Re:Anyone into Real Watches? by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

    I have a (not a knock off) 1930s-style Mickey Mouse watch that I haven't worn since the CTEA passed.

    --
    sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f(q{sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f});
  89. Re:I got a big boner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You sure have big bones Chris, except the bone girls enjoy most which is microscopic!

    There you are spamming amazon and youtube affiliate links with yet another fake account, you revenue stream hogging disgusting fat sexist tube of lard, Christopher Dale Reimer!

    You can be sure I will be watching this fake account too. I know this is you because you told me you were working on your freepass 11 file server and you are so dumb that you can't even masquerade yourself properly.

    Now, I told you I was out of meds last week and you didn't even care to contact me you lazy fucker.

    How many times do I have to express the emergency of the situation??????

    The python click script you wrote for my pheromone revenue stream web site suddenly stopped to work!!!!!!

    You fucking incompetent python script writer!!!

    When it works, I get 4000+ clicks a day on my pheromone revenue stream web site but only 5 or 6 without it!!!!

    Now, it seems like you dont care and that you have abandoned me you heartless fucking pig!

    Bonus:
    Here is a story that creimer told me when convincing me what a hard life he had:

    The tree was him and the tree knot was his butt hole!

    So, his uncle packed his fat ass with lard and with his cock! Not that it makes much of a difference but anyway, there it is!

    Signed:
    Ethell, The girl that used to love you and now hates you, burn in hell where you belong you sexist pig!

  90. Re:I got a big boner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please stop reposting my nasty post!!!

    Christopher, my love,

    Never mind those "hump leg" trolls.

    I am deeply sorry. I didn't feel well lately but I am better now since I had my meds adjusted. I am sorry that I called you all sorts of names on Slashdot and I feel truly ashamed of myself but somebody keeps re-posting my nasty post.

    The python click script you wrote for me my sweet love for my pheromone revenue stream web site suddenly stopped to work.

    Could you come visit me in my studio so we could look at it?

    Signed:
    Ethell, Your sweetee who will love you for ever.

    P.S. when I posted there was a funny form that asked me to retype the word "shoulders" in a text field. That's funny, I did a double-take and I went to look at your new picture again and got turned on. Please contact me ASAP.

  91. Re:I got a big boner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you have any essperience with roaming numerals?

    Chris is currently indisposed and can't reply to your post at the moment.

    Granny PottyMouth has just revealed to Chris (see https://slashdot.org/comments....) that most of the views on our YouTube channels were caused by one of her employee using her click-bots.

    She says she instructed him to stop immediately and what she says must be true since the views stopped on our channel and we have only 12 views since last week on our latest video "How to Pronounce The New Apple iPhone XR, XS & XS Max (September 2018)". Note that the pronunciation might change in December so make sure to keep watching our channel!
    --
    Ethell, Team Creimer Administrative Assistant.
    How to Pronounce The New Apple iPhone XR, XS & XS Max (September 2018)

  92. Re:I got a big boner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How to Pronounce The New Apple iPhone XR, XS & XS Max (September 2018)

    Chris, why do you put "(September 2018)" in your video title?

    Is the pronunciation going to change in October?

    Also, I have always wondered how to pronounce the iPhone 6S and since you are using one, I thought that it was pronounced "iPhone 6 Special", like in "special education".

    But I have come to realize that since you had a sex change, it must be pronounced "apple sexes".

    Creimy's real pictures:
    Before the sex change:
    https://ibb.co/cc7Ddw
    After the sex change:
    https://ibb.co/gVad65

    Balena!

  93. Re:I got a big boner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey Cwiss, view those, I am sure that you would be fine with one of those for your apple watch:

    https://www.amazon.com/Mens-Be...

  94. Re:I got a big boner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to use my Christmas bonus in December to buy an iPhone XR instead.

    creimer, you lying sack of shit! What happened to you getting free iPhones from Sprint????

    Also, I still use my iPhone 6s and reduce my monthly bill from $80 to $50. As a phone and a video camera, the iPhone 6s isn't obsolete and I use it to make my videos on youtube. As a Sprint very special customer for 20+ years, Sprint will always give me a new iPhone for free if I decide to stop using the 6s as a phone in the next several years.

  95. Re:I got a big boner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to buy an iPhone XR instead.

    Great move creimer! So you are going to go straight from an iPhone 6 "special education" to an iPhone 10 "retard"?

    Great move creimer, great move...

  96. Re:I got a big boner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey Chris! :)

    Granny PottyMouth click-bots are crap. My click-bots are much more AI advanced, they will leave comments on your channel and add likes so the hack isn't as obvious.

    Just send me the comments as you would like them to appear, exemples:

    "Great video C.D., keep on the good work"

    "This is the best video I have seen on YouTube, amazing! Thumbs up"

    etc. etc.

    Contact me instead and forget about Granny PottyMouth!

  97. Apple ____ what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    an apple what?

  98. Re:I got a big boner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am back now! Since I am at -1, I can only post twice a day so posting this as A.C.

    I have a hearing loss in one ear, so my audio will always be suspect. I use a Zoom H2 audio recorder with a pop filter 12" away from my mouth, Audacity to clean up and normalize the audio, and sync the audio to the video and apply a "voice enhancement" eq to the audio in the video editor.

    My PC has an eight-core processor and a Nvidia 1050 Ti 4GB video card. A minute of 1080p video renedered on the processor takes a minute. A minute of 1080p video renedered on the Nvidia card takes 10 seconds. I don't think an iPad has the same performance of my PC for renedering videos longer than a short clip.

    I can't imagine using Photoshop without a keyboard and mouse, or not being able to access my files from my file server. Video renedering on the iPad will probably suck donkey balls.
    --
    Star Wars Holiday Santa Yoda (Funko POP! #277) Found At Box Lunch

  99. Re:I got a big boner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CROFLOL!!! LOLOLLOLOL!!!

    belts for wrist watches and dual air cylinder chair!

    LOLLOLOL!

    Creimy's "enterprise-level" chair, he talks about it all the time on slashdot:
    http://www.keynamics.com/image...

  100. Re:I got a big boner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He is!? Then he won't mind if I publish another creimer's full name, address, phone number, previous addresses, and email?

  101. A 'Yes' For Me And My Family by Frightened_Turtle · · Score: 1

    The fall detection is a must for us.

    As my mother's health declined, the falls began to happen. It's one thing when you hear about it happening to someone else, but when it is happening in your own household and right in front of you and you can't move fast enough to catch that person, it is mortifying. And it isn't just one fall. It is over and over again. There is nothing more horrifying than hearing that terrible "THUD!" in the middle of the night.

    It became so bad, we didn't dare leave her alone in the house. In the end, she spent her final days in a nursing facility.

    A family friend suffered a stroke and spent over 18 hours on the floor of his kitchen before someone discovered him. When he didn't show up for a scheduled meeting—something that is out of character for him—and didn't respond to phone calls, someone went to check on him and found him on the floor, partially paralyzed, unable to reach the telephone that was just out of arm's reach.

    For my father, the fall detection means a lot. It means he can maintain his independence and mobility, but knows someone will be able to come to his aid should he begin to suffer falls. He has health issues that are creeping up on him and could start interfering with his ability to balance.

    --


    Whew! This water sure is cold!
  102. Slashvertorial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This article was written and paid for by Apple Computer Inc - one of the world's biggest assholes.

  103. Got mine! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Got it on 21 Sept., upgrading from the original, what I like to refer to as a Series 00. And I %^$#ing love it. Speed, of course, but the larger display makes it readable. (While out to dinner with the Missus, while she was checking her Facebook group on her phone, I was able to read a HTML email on the watch.)
    FWIW: What pushed me most immediately was the cardiac stuff -- I'm a nearly elderly dotard. Otherwise, I wasn't necessarily going to upgrade but, knowing me, probably would with a time frame between now and the winter. OTOH, for various reasons, this weekend just worked logistical, so Friday was the day. And I have to say the people at the Apple Store finally really doped out how to deal with a heavy sales day. They handled the Watch sales really well.

  104. I do not belong to the church of the lowercase 'i' by ASCIIxTended · · Score: 1

    I do not belong to the church of the lower-case 'i'. However, I do have a Huawei that I do not wear all the time. When I'm at a conference or traveling I wear it - it's useful in those times when I'm on the move and would be constantly taking my phone out of my pocket to check whatever. I wish wear-os was a little better though. I can think of many useful things the watch could do if only there were software to do it.

    --
    I do not belong to the church of the lowercase 'i'
  105. Phone Replacement?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Chinese Smart watch, that can take a SIM Card.

    It runs Android 4 with 1GB of RAM and 8GB of storage.

    I can run 80% of all android apps on this Watch and with a voice enabled keyboard, I can talk my text and emails responses, but there is also a tiny keyboard that works really well if you keep your finger steady. I can use a bluetooth headset for my phone calls and it works on my car Bluetooth as well.

    I bought it 2 years ago. A smartphone on my wrist. My Apple friend said, "that just useless as a smartphone! Screens to small!", yet the only complaint i heard about the first Apple Watch was that it was NOT a smartphone on your wrist.

    Do people know what they actually want to use daily? No?

    Apple will sell tonnes of these. Not because it is a smart watch, because it is a 'life saving health monitor'. Apple found its marketing angle and that is all that is needed here.

    People are buying these for their parents to both monitor heart health and to provide easier help in case of emergency. If they buy one for themselves as well, that is 3xWatches purchases. Expect the sales numbers to go up by at least 2x for the series 4. Of course, expect profits to go up as well, and of course, don't expect the prices to come down much before a new model is ready.

    Apples fine balancing act of profit increases versus market innovation.

        TOM...

  106. Is this an advert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds like an advert.

    No, I am not considering an Apple watch. I don't even like my cell phone.

  107. Not a partial day battery life by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    But the partial day battery life makes it a non-starter . . .

    So far I'm getting around a full day (as in at least 24 hours) with average use. Even for sports use they rate it at six hours use, which for most people means three hours of hiking and a pretty full day of charge (maybe even past midnight). I was out for about a two hour hike with the watch tracking today and around midnight have a 43% charge after getting up at 7am.

    Hiking tracking mode may also last longer than something like run tracking, because they can decrease GPS accuracy (you are not moving as fast so it doesn't have to update as often) and also probably measure the heart rate much less frequently, both of which save battery.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley