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YouTube King PewDiePie Surrenders Crown To Indian Record Label T-Series (bloomberg.com)

YouTube is about to crown a new king. T-Series, one of India's largest record labels, will become the most-subscribed channel on the world's most popular video site in the next couple weeks. At the beginning of the year, the company had 30 million fans, fewer than half of the following for No. 1 PewDiePie, the Swedish video-game geek and jokester whose real name is Felix Kjellberg. From a report: The company's ascent has shocked the tight-knit community of online personalities, prompting some to rally behind PewDiePie and delay T-Series' ascent. While claiming the most subscribers on YouTube is largely a symbolic achievement, and the company already has the most monthly views, the end of PewDiePie's five-year reign is a watershed moment that reflects important changes as internet use gets more global.

More than half of the 10 most popular channels on YouTube in terms of monthly views are from outside the U.S., and many of them belong to professional media companies. YouTube's previous champions have been young, male amateurs like the video blogger Ray William Johnson and comedy duo Smosh. But after years as a mostly Western site for pranks and cat clips, the Google-owned company has lured most of the world's largest media giants to the site, blurring the line between professional and amateur.
Further reading: Who Rules YouTube? Swift? Bieber? Nope. It's T-Series, a Record Label in India.

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  1. oh noes! by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2, Funny

    YouTube's previous champions have been young, male amateurs like the video blogger Ray William Johnson and comedy duo Smosh.

    Male?? Well we can't have that!

    More than half of the 10 most popular channels on YouTube in terms of monthly views are from outside the U.S., and many of them belong to professional media companies.

    Thank you, professional media companies, for saving us from ... shudder ... male amateurs!

    1. Re: oh noes! by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

      Well obviously. When a published author states in his article, for no reason at all, that most previous "champions" were male, that clearly means that I have some weird issue. Because logic.

  2. Chess! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

    Agadmator will surpass them all in the end.

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    1. Re:Chess! by MyrddinBach · · Score: 1

      I so *wish* I had mod points for you right now.

    2. Re:Chess! by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      Agadmator will surpass them all in the end.

      And he'll do it by reading out the moves.

    3. Re:Chess! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      Agadmator will surpass them all in the end.

      And he'll do it by reading out the moves.

      And saying "Hello there!"

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    4. Re:Chess! by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      yes :-)
      I enjoy his channel - he works hard at it and does a good job, but he's not a great analyst.

  3. Re:Iâ(TM)m am GAYpk and ready to HOST by syril · · Score: 1

    what did he mean by this

  4. Not surprising by aepervius · · Score: 1

    "More than half of the 10 most popular channels on YouTube in terms of monthly views are from outside the U.S" let us put it that way, there was a lag from non US country to take up on youtube. The US had the innovator advance. But 95% of the world is outside the US, and a big part of that is getting more and more connected. I am predicting that in 5 to 10 years the top youtube channel by view will be world wide media conglomerate, or big celebrities in india & china.

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  5. Re:Dear YouTube... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1, Interesting
    Ok, out of curiosity I just went to their YT site to listen.

    Seriously?

    Who the fuck can even bear to listen to more than 30 seconds of that crap??

    High pitch clanging....man, just hurt my ears.

    I guess it is some form of music, but wow...that is just weird and bad.

    Maybe someone needs to go to India and turn them onto the blues or something more akin to real music.

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  6. Slow news day? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seriously, why? Who cares.

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    1. Re:Slow news day? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Seriously, why? Who cares.

      Because ... well, because ... non-Americans replacing Americans! On YouTube! Important!

      And ... big media companies replacing male amateurs! Because ... er, not male or something?

    2. Re:Slow news day? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      So what? Yes, the channels I visit have maybe 100k subscribers. Maybe 200k. Some even less than that. Do they no longer exist now that T-whatever is the biggest channel? Do I have to watch their stuff now?

      Calm down, relax and ignore it.

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    3. Re:Slow news day? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      If you are talking to me, then you missed the sarcasm.

      It's not newsworthy, and I am ignoring it.

      (And making fun of those who think that it is important.)

    4. Re:Slow news day? by MagicM · · Score: 1

      I thought it was interesting enough to read the summary and look to see what people are saying in the comments about it.

      So I guess I care.

    5. Re: Slow news day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A Swede is American?

    6. Re:Slow news day? by aaronb1138 · · Score: 1

      The cute thing is this actually degrades some of YT's advertising value. Most marketing money comes out of the infinite supply of US companies to sell to US consumerist tendencies. Southeast Asia may have huge economies, but they aren't such fools with how much their advertisers will pay per eyeball.

      I want to make a joke about China users taking the lead once the state sponsored Mao Now! channel launches, but obsession with the little red books isn't what it once was.

    7. Re:Slow news day? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Ok, we're in agreement... discussing with you is no fun.

      I'll go find me a flat earther.

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    8. Re:Slow news day? by Gabest · · Score: 1

      You still don't get it. There is a finite amount of money to be distributed among youtubers. Your small but liked channel will get smaller as these T-whatevers get larger.

    9. Re:Slow news day? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Seriously, why? Who cares.

      PewDiePie

  7. Some don't realize about T Series by Cito · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In India when you purchase a device, it has its pre-installed apps as most things do. Difference is it is the app pre-installed is also presubscribed to India news aggregator T Series.

    So even if you don't want to, all devices purchased in India are pre subscribed to T series and the app cannot be uninstalled without rooting it.
    that's why it has the numbers. Their population 9s forced to be subscribed to that channel unless they root the device which is illegal there.

    1. Re:Some don't realize about T Series by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      So, in other words, it's like the cable providers that claim so-and-so-many people use their cable TV when the only reason these people have that cable TV subscription is that internet bundled with it is actually cheaper and faster than internet alone?

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    2. Re:Some don't realize about T Series by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I was about to ask the question how many of those were actual subscribers, compared to the number of bots, scammed and/or forced subscribers. I'd say that app falls in the latter category. I wonder how long it will take Youtube to smell the coffee and issue bans.

    3. Re:Some don't realize about T Series by Stan92057 · · Score: 1

      They may be forced to have it installed and they may be forced to become subscribers but i don't think they are forced to actually use the service.Or actually sigh into YouTube. I have plenty of crapwhere on my phone i cant get rid of unless i root my phone and im just not going to go to that trouble because i just don't use the services. The only way out is our congress get some balls and start looking out for the consumers and that's just not going to happens any time soon as corporate America keeps our congress members pockets lined with cash.

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    4. Re:Some don't realize about T Series by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Neither. I just have this ad here that says just that. With the higher tier internet only available as a bundle with cable anyway. As if you only need more than 20/2 if you also watch cable TV for some odd reason.

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  8. Who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Who cares

  9. Observation by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've noticed that the number of subscribers on YouTube is inversely related to the quality of content which speaks volumes about PewPewWhat and other "high"-profile channels.

  10. Re:Dear YouTube... by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Are you talking about the Indian Music channel or PewDiePie?
    If it is the Indian Music channel, you need to realize what we as a resident western hemisphere recognize as music is based on notes which are based on the 8 note scale, with a total of 12 chromatic notes. Eastern Culture music doesn't need to follow the same Evolution of music theory. Oddly enough once you de-program yourself for what you grew up thinking is music, you are able to enjoy and appreciate eastern style of music as just as pleasant as western style is.

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  11. Popular nonsense is irrelevent by MpVpRb · · Score: 2

    The University of YouTube still delivers excellent education on a wide variety of subjects
    I'm currently watching card magic tutorials, but in the past I've watched ..

    Graduate-level physics
    Welding
    Knifemaking
    Glassblowing
    Gunsmithing
    And many more

    I prefer learning over most "entertainment"

    1. Re:Popular nonsense is irrelevent by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      The University of YouTube still delivers excellent education on a wide variety of subjects I'm currently watching card magic tutorials, but in the past I've watched ..

      Graduate-level physics Welding Knifemaking Glassblowing Gunsmithing And many more

      I prefer learning over most "entertainment"

      And that combination's probably got you on some terror watchlist somewhere, too

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  12. Re:Dear YouTube... by BlackOverflow · · Score: 1

    That's a pretty sophisticated bot you have there! It's able to parse things really well!

  13. Re:Dear YouTube... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I agree, it's horrible. But then so is PewDiePie. He's a moron. Apparently shit reigns supreme on YouTube.

  14. The great thing with internet celebrities by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

    and their followers - as with reality-TV participants and fans - is, when someone mentions them, people with more than 2 brain cells immediately know whom not to interact socially with. They're a great way to out idiots who must be avoided at all costs.

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  15. Symbolic achievement by rhazz · · Score: 1

    the most subscribers on YouTube is largely a symbolic achievement

    This is an understatement, as the views from all videos from media company (with hundreds or thousands of content creators) isn't comparable to the views from content that is largely generated by a single person. It's like comparing one artists views to all views on VEVO channels.

  16. Popular != good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wish YT would create a site just for the labels and multinational broadcast corporations, spin it off, and leave YT proper for the small guys. You know, people who actually make music and interesting stuff, and have jumped through YT's hoops for the past several years to avoid demonetization. The small guys deserve fame (and a decent check.) Bollywood rockers need their own Desi-Starz or whatnot site.

  17. Troll ? by aepervius · · Score: 1

    Normally I don't care about moderation, but that one made me laugh to tears. Now plain demographic and comment on evolution of internet connectivity outside first world is trolling. Guys. WHY should a guy in Bangalore getting connected to internet like pewdiepie or a well known US youtuber or media, MORE than the local celebrity ? Now multiply by 1 billion with far eastern region and 1 billion indian sub continent. The most view in video plateform in the future will simply be there. it is demographic !

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  18. Re:Dear YouTube... by xpiotr · · Score: 1

    Maybe someone needs to go to India and turn them onto the blues or something more akin to real music.

    > = " Oh, I went to a page from another culture than my own and I did not like what I saw, why can't they just adapt to MY culture."

    I don't understand Indian music either, but I do at least understand that I don't understand.

  19. Re:Dear YouTube... by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

    Who the fuck [has different opinions than I do]

    Someone. Usually it turns out to be many people, while also being a small fraction of humanity too.

    Everything is obscure or weird; this is what the "long tail" is about. If you add up the top 100 youtube channels, there's still a good chance that not a single one of them will be about anything that you have ever heard of or that you would like even if you checked it out. And that's not an attribute of you; the same would likely apply to anyone. Your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate probably hasn't ever heard of anything in the top 100 either, or even if he has, he might not like any of it.

    Probably.

    Of course, there might be something in the top 100 that you (or your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate) are familiar with. And if not familiar with it, you still might end up liking it. You never know unless you look.

    And of course, whether any particular individual happens to have heard of this stuff or not, it's a 100% sure thing that someone has. These are still popular things, even if they're also obscure. 30 million is a lot of people, while also being a tiny fraction of the world (so, not many people after all, depending on how you look at it).

    It reminds me of my second-favorite joke from "Cheers", a sitcom where one character is a former pro baseball player (here I am telling people what "Cheers" is; this is the world we now live in, where plenty of people really and truly might not know (but of course my TV generation is silly-familiar with this stuff)). At one point Sam Malone says, "A lot of people don't know this, but I happen to be very famous." Great line.

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  20. I feel like I'm winning the internet... by TomR+teh+Pirate · · Score: 1

    ...because I had never heard of any of this stuff until today. Reading the comments, it sounds like my life is happier for being ignorant.

  21. Re: Dear YouTube... by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Last Century Western Culture propagated the earth. Bringing a lot of good thing and bad things as well. Given equal access younger people will gravitate towards newer music. Hence when you normally ask a person when was the Golden age of music, you can normally get a good ball park of their age.

    The New stuff today isn't any more crap then the music made 200 years ago. However over time, all the junk music had been removed from our history.

    If you listen to a Pop Station it plays music of the last 5 years.
    If you listen to a contemporary station you get 10-15 years of music.
    If you listen to the oldies stations They cover 30 years of music.
    If you listen to the "classical" stations you often get about 300+ years of music.
    The idea that "Classical" (I quote it because they often span well beyond the classical period of music) is far superior then what is new, is actually false, We just are able to pick a selection of the bests of the best over 300 years. While the Pop station is playing the best of the last half decade.

    Now much traditional Eastern Music which doesn't use the western scale is very musical, once you get in tuned to its pattern then you can recognize it as music and not as noise. You don't have to like it, but you shouldn't be judging it, if you really didn't try to understand it.

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  22. Re:Dear YouTube... by BringsApples · · Score: 1

    India has about 4x the amount of people that the US has. Odd thing is, the Indians have a different music preference than the Americans. It's not amazing that whatever trend develops on youtube that attracts the likes of Indians, would then become more popular (on a global scale) than that of trends that attract Americans.

    And before anyone points out that Indians are poor, and fewer have access to internet than those in America...
    That's true, however India is coming up in the world, so the number of Indians with internet access might surprise you. And the amount of times that the video(s) will be watched by each of them may also surprise you.

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  23. Huh? by jetkust · · Score: 1

    Why is this getting modded up? It doesn't even make sense. You can't presubscribe a phone to a Youtube channel. In fact, "pre subscribe" itself isn't even a thing. This is either a troll, or someone with no concept of what the word "subscribe" means.

    1. Re:Huh? by Cito · · Score: 2

      Google tseries and auto subscribe or forced subscriptions

      In India users get autosubbed to tseries news aggregate
      they have a partnership with devices sold in their country

      It's all artificial inflated numbers.. How ebay can claim millions of users use their app when their app is forced onto Android devices. India is more nefarious and there's a lot of debate ongoing about not only being forced to buy a device with pre-installed apps but now in India being auto subscribed to certain news aggregates. Similar to here in US certain Android phones force Bixby service on their users and you aren't allowed to uninstall Bixby. You'd have to root the device to get it off.

      It's shitty

  24. Re: Frankly by sound+vision · · Score: 1

    So triggered by seeing an Indian video on the top 10... Your life must be miserable.

  25. Bronies.. by GrBear · · Score: 1

    PewDiePie.. isn't she one of the mentally challenged ponies?

  26. Re: Dear YouTube... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

    I don't know what's he's wearing, but the point is that the further back you look the more you can cherry-pick. Most of the music of any era is crap. But when you look back you can ignore the crap and focus on the good ones.

  27. Re: Dear YouTube... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 2

    They're also a bunch of smelly, worthless, curry eating goat fuckers barley out of cave man stage.

    What's wrong with curry?

  28. Re:Dear YouTube... by Sivaraj · · Score: 1

    Indian classic music traditions use a similar 8-note, 12-chromatic note format as Western music. There are usage variations, but the mathematical fundamentals are same.