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Google Patents Motorized, Omnidirectional VR Sneakers (arstechnica.com)
Google has patented motorized, omnidirectional virtual-reality sneakers that may solve the "limited space" problem associated with the interactive computer-generated experience. Ars Technica reports: Google's patent describes what are essentially motorized VR roller skates that will let the user walk normally while the motors and wheels work to negate your natural locomotion and keep you inside the VR safe zone. As the patent puts it, Google's new kicks will let you walk "seemingly endlessly in the virtual environment" while keeping you in one spot in real life. Google's shoe solution would track the user's feet, just like how VR controllers are tracked today. The tracking would know when you're too close to the virtual walls of your VR area, and the system would wheel you back into place.
Patents are always written to give the broadest possible coverage of an idea, but Google's patent shows normal wheels, tracks, and even omnidirectional mecanum wheels as possible wheels for the VR shoe bottoms. Omnidirectional wheels would be great, as they would allow you to do things like sidestep, while still having your position corrected by the shoes.
Patents are always written to give the broadest possible coverage of an idea, but Google's patent shows normal wheels, tracks, and even omnidirectional mecanum wheels as possible wheels for the VR shoe bottoms. Omnidirectional wheels would be great, as they would allow you to do things like sidestep, while still having your position corrected by the shoes.
So...they patented Roller Skates.
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So, are they making the headset crash resistant now?!?
You know we have to wear a helmet when we skate here! Don't see how they both fit on my head.
I think I am just too old for that plan, VR on skates is a pass from me.
Broad patents fall to prior art, narrow patents fall to small changes. Like everything, it's about balance. That and more than one patent with a spread of specificity, at an average of 10k$ each, just to get them.
They've had powered fruit boots for decades.
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This is pretty stupid on multiple levels.
1. I can draw some bull crap with crayons too and say I have an idea and it should be patented and nobody can ever implement anything remotely resembling my dumb little idea.
2. This does nothing to solve the actual real issue with VR: motion sickness when your actual motions don't match the images being sent to your eyes.
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Please make your VR experience so good that if someone is texting and walking in the VR they suffer the same consequences they would in real life.
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>"The tracking would know when you're too close to the virtual walls of your VR area, and the system would wheel you back into place."
And your inner ear (balance and acceleration) would immediately know you were being moved without actually wanting to move and it could make you sick as a dog- just like being sea-sick. It is a neat idea, but it is far from seamless or natural. In fact, it might even amplify other contradictory signals being fed into your eyes (vision) and ears (hearing). Knowing me, I would be super sick :)
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If I wanted to walk, I'd go outside. There's a big park a few blocks away. But I have no interesting in walking or running around while playing a video game, not am I in good enough shape to do so. Nobody wants this, so what's the freaking point?
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I always figured a giant trackball would be ideal - something you can actually walk on, control the effort required, offer up/downhill. Could probably offer steps/textures if the ball was flexible. Put a handrail around it for safety or a harness so you can't fall off. Plug it in as a haptic-feedback mouse - should be easy.
The whole point is that it forces you to exercise while playing a video game... I consider that a good thing. In fact, most of the exercise machines at the gym are boring as heck, enough to make me think a $2000 Peloton exercise bike might be worth the cost for the operator entertainment.
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Because unless they are on balls, plus have adjustable pivots to make your feet feel like they are coming down on uneven surfaces, these are just gimmicks and not actually something that can keep you inside of a circle or square VR corral while allowing you sufficient tactility to emulate actual locomotion inside of a virtual world. Once they have all of those features, and manage it in something that doesn't feel like 20-50 pounds of lead weights off the bottom of your feet, then MAYBE we can have a discussion about VR locomotion centering using shoes. In the meantime they sound like a terrible idea that won't provide a serious alternative to the waist harness/treatmill virtual reality systems, which I also consider unimpressive.
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Isn't this exactly one of the projects Ex Mythbuster Jamie Hyneman has been working on for quite a while, does not that count as prior art. Potentially wilful infringement considering there are videos of them posted on a Google Website. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
If you don't actually move when you walk then there's no sense of acceleration. Since our ability to walk is mostly mechanical, it works by arresting a fall. That is, you fall forward then stop the fall. You can do this because you are accelerating.
if you are not accelerating there's nothing to arrest.
When you wear rollerskates and try to walk normally they slip out behind you and you fall down. it's really hard to walk normally in roller skates. Yes you can do a sort of walk motion but not a normal friction push.
google's skates might be even worse since they are powered.
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No, that's why nobody will buy it, and even for those who do it will quickly gather dust like an exercise bike. Nobody wants to be forced to exercise while they game, and anyone who does use this will be at a severe disadvantage to those who don't. And if oyu make separate networks it will be nearly deserted.
Peloton makes things work by heavily targeting cycling enthusiasts. You don't buy one to lose weight, you buy one to train for race/distance rides. There's no equivalent for video games.
I still have more fans than freaks. WTF is wrong with you people?
When I play Oculus Go, I can see my controller in VR, but not my beercan. I would like to put a VR tracker ring on top of the beercan, so that I can put it on the table and pick it up again to drink without spilling my beer. I drink it with a straw when I wear the VR headset, so maybe there could be a tracker for the straw as well??
Thank you for listening, now someone go produce the BeerTrackerRing, and VR straw and I will buy them.
movement is the biggest problem for (some) vr experiences.
walking is one thing, but imagine a vr game as immersive as some of the latest FPS's and i can guarantee you walking is only half of what you will be doing.
jumping, ducking, crawling, etc will all be part of it, and such these rolling shoes will only help a bit and you still need a big open space.
would be fine for 'walking simulators' and vr-museums i suppose.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
You're assuming that people using this are participating in competitive multiplayer games in VR. I certainly don't. something like this would increase immersion in a single player RPG.
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You're assuming that people using this are participating in competitive multiplayer games in VR. I certainly don't. something like this would increase immersion in a single player RPG.
Not much. The most interesting terrain in a single player RPG is frequently not a flat, level floor, making attempts to use shoes like this problematic at best. "Climbing" the hill in front of you by just walking forwards on your living room floor sounds like a great way to teach yourself how to fail walking in reality, after too much exposure. Not to mention being extremely disorienting when your vision believes you're about to bury your leg up to the knee in the terrain in front of you when actually you're going to step on air if you try to place your foot properly.