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Comcast Raises Cable TV Bills Again -- Even If You're Under Contract (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Comcast is raising its controversial "Broadcast TV" and "Regional Sports Network" fees again on January 1, with the typical total price going from $14.50 to $18.25 a month. The newly raised broadcast TV fee will be $10 a month, and the sports fee will be $8.25 a month, Cord Cutters News reported last week. The new fee sizes are confirmed in a Comcast price list for the Atlanta market. The new price hikes will take effect in most of Comcast's regional markets across the U.S. on January 1, but some cities will get the increase later in 2019, a Comcast spokesperson told Ars. The fee sizes can vary by city based on which stations are available, so in some cases they could be less than $10 and $8.25, Comcast said.

The fees, which have become common in the industry, are controversial because they are not included in Comcast's advertised prices and because Comcast imposes fee increases even on customers who are under contract. The broadcast and sports fee increases will also be applied to customers who pay Comcast's promotional rates, which typically last one year, Comcast told Ars. Equipment rental fees are rising, too. Comcast last year raised its modem rental fee from $10 to $11 a month. The new price list for January 1 lists an "Internet/Voice Equipment Rental" fee as $13. Comcast confirmed to Ars that the modem rental fee is rising $2 a month. Customers can avoid that fee by purchasing their own modem.

128 comments

  1. TV=Waste of money by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I see an ad for TV+Internet for $35 and when all of the fees and taxes are added in it comes out to more like $80. Very deceptive advertising practices. In some cases, its hard to get out of them what the actual fees and taxes will be. Then, probably the make it so the first bill comes only after the 30 day gaurantee is up. There is nothing worth watching on TV anyway (and really even on NetFlix). Much is designed for the lowest common denominator, you can feel your IQ dropping just being exposed to it. Much of the news, especially CNN, is complete disinformation propoganda and lies to turn people into America hating nutjobs. I don't watch TV, and its great.

    1. Re: TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In a perfect world you would have a point, but the fact is that some companies are sufficiently powerful to buy laws etc. Which cement monopoly positions.

    2. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their costs are not going up. Everything in networking is getting cheaper all the time. The price for transit traffic for example has declined more than 10% per year over the last few years.

    3. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Serious man, get laid sometimes. Your balls will shrink if you never use them.

      A walk in the park, a book of history, rights and wrongs of humanity, the clouds passing by and even a Trump vs Clinton argument are a more productive than watching TV.

    4. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll know what to talk about around the water cooler tomorrow; you will look like a clueless no-life dweeb.

      LMFAO. Who are the 'no-life dweebs' here? The ones who get in from work, switch their brain off and get spoon fed shit, or the ones who don't watch TV and instead have hobbies and other interests that take up their time ?

    5. Re:TV=Waste of money by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm not certain why you think that companies who provide a service to the public should be locked in to prices and never be able to raise them...

      Because you have a contract. It binds you to stay with the company for a specified period of time to keep your agreed price. It's supposed to bind Comcast in the same way, but the cable company has lawyers you couldn't afford.

    6. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      I'm a vegan and I don't even own a TV. Like you I've reached higher consciousness through meditation and preaching to my brothers on the street. I hope to buy an EV later this year with the money I've saved.

    7. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not certain why you think that companies who provide a service to the public should be locked in to prices and never be able to raise them, even as their costs are going up, but whatever. You are free to 'cut the cord' and sit home alone and stare at the cockroach olympics that are happening on your kitchen floor. I'll take my pro sports and Survivor David vs Goliath and Curse of Oak Island and I'm happy to pay to have it delivered directly to my devices in a timely fashion. I'll know what to talk about around the water cooler tomorrow; you will look like a clueless no-life dweeb.

      I think he might be wondering how cable tv can still be relevant in 2018... and with price hikes to boot... I wonder that too... they jack up the price... because cable TV is the future or .. what?

    8. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How the hell did you get $80??? Back when I had Comcast it was over $250/month!!! It's a lot like cell phones. For the price of the monthly plan I can buy a new laptop EVERY YEAR! A really nice gaming laptop! That's before we even factor in the cost of the phone!

      There is nothing worth watching on TV anyway (and really even on NetFlix). Much is designed for the lowest common denominator, you can feel your IQ dropping just being exposed to it.

      Which is why I like it. Netflix is still cheap. Put it on a tablet. Knocks me out better than Sominex!

    9. Re:TV=Waste of money by mrbester · · Score: 1

      If there weren't such crappy consumer protection laws then Comcast wouldn't be able to alter the deal leaving you praying they won't alter it further, but knowing they will because they can.

      --
      "Wait. Something's happening. It's opening up! My God, it's full of apricots!"
    10. Re: TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not in my market. Contracts are illegal. I have turned off my cable in January because the mid-season replacements were bad (sometimes I wait until February because the really good replacements happen then) and then back on in July, August or September, depending on when the new seasons start. Of course, keeping up with all the new shows is like a second job

    11. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm not certain why you think that companies who provide a service to the public should be locked in to prices and never be able to raise them...

      Because you have a contract. It binds you to stay with the company for a specified period of time to keep your agreed price. It's supposed to bind Comcast in the same way, but the cable company has lawyers you couldn't afford.

      Having more lawyers isn't a reasonable defense for skirting legalities, and can create larger problems in the future. If consumers get pissed enough at getting constantly screwed over by the ones with "more lawyers", then sensible actions go out the window, and unstable minds start talking about who has more guns. This is not a path those in power want to go down. Calmer heads do not always prevail, and history has shown that unending abuse towards the masses often leads to violence.

      Personally I would rather people hit back with their wallet. Doesn't matter how many channels are available across a dozen streaming and cable services, it's still filled with 99% stupid shit. Stop being enslaved to the almighty boob tube. If you must be entertained, there's a lot of content that's free (as in OTA).

    12. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not certain why you think that companies who provide a service to the public should be locked in to prices and never be able to raise them, even as their costs are going up, but whatever. You are free to 'cut the cord' and sit home alone and stare at the cockroach olympics that are happening on your kitchen floor. I'll take my pro sports and Survivor David vs Goliath and Curse of Oak Island and I'm happy to pay to have it delivered directly to my devices in a timely fashion. I'll know what to talk about around the water cooler tomorrow; you will look like a clueless no-life dweeb.

      If you stand around a watercooler discussing Survivor and Curse of Oak Island, that tells me everything I need to know about a no-life dweeb.

      Seriously, that's fucking pathetic if you think that shit is what defines "life."

    13. Re: TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cable TV smells their death coming closer so they have to overcharge now while they still can.

    14. Re: TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno, Clinton vs Trump arguments are pretty damn senseless. It's like arguing over which is better to eat: Dog shit, or cat shit.

    15. Re:TV=Waste of money by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      I see an ad for TV+Internet for $35 and when all of the fees and taxes are added in it comes out to more like $80. Very deceptive advertising practices. In some cases, its hard to get out of them what the actual fees and taxes will be. Then, probably the make it so the first bill comes only after the 30 day gaurantee is up. There is nothing worth watching on TV anyway (and really even on NetFlix). Much is designed for the lowest common denominator, you can feel your IQ dropping just being exposed to it. Much of the news, especially CNN, is complete disinformation propoganda and lies to turn people into America hating nutjobs. I don't watch TV, and its great.

      Tbh many of these fees are to compensate for regulations you, dear voter, feel are important.

      Like taxes at the store, get mad at yourself, not the store.

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    16. Re: TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But EVs are made of materials that cause cancer. I think you should save up for a kale farm instead.

    17. Re: TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok. You have me on this point.

    18. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      for deceptive advertising, we actually have a federal agency to help with that.. that hasn't, yet, been taken over and destroyed by the monkey in the white house... the f.t.c, as well as (some) state attorneys general who haven't been corrupted yet.

    19. Re:TV=Waste of money by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      You are a troll.
      None of what you says addresses the issue of deceptive practices by a functional monopoly. You distract with a tarbaby argument, that can go back-and-forth, long after the original criticism is lost in a thread of uninformed "debate".

      All of which leads me to speculate, only half-idly, how much you are paid by Comcast, to dilute these forums?

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      "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
      Never been known to fail..."
    20. Re:TV=Waste of money by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      And really. "Service to the public". That's really a rich choice of rhetoric. This Comcast! They're almost like Firefighters, aren't they!

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      "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
      Never been known to fail..."
    21. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should be required to actually charge what they've advertised they'll charge.
      Or are you suggesting you can state a rate, but charge something else whenever you want (which is what Comcast is doing right now)?

    22. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's certainly not any of the people talking shit about what other people do with their time. Most of us just go, "Cool. You do you, so long as you're enjoying yourself."

      TLDR: Don't be a cunt.

    23. Re:TV=Waste of money by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      I'm free to:
      (1) Stream video.
      (2) Read a book.
      (3) Take a train upstate and go on a hike.
      (4) Go skiing or biking.
      (5) Converse with an actual human.

      If all you talk about around the water cooler is the latest pap served up on TV, get better cow-orkers.

    24. Re: TV=Waste of money by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      I love how you think you are too smart for TV and CNN is propoganda. Then you go on to say it is designed to make people hate America. That's got to be the most stupid claim I've seen ever. I hereby diagnose you with Dunning Krueger Syndrome.

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      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    25. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how cute. I didn't know that atlas shrugged was streaming anywhere.

    26. Re:TV=Waste of money by ProzacPatient · · Score: 1

      This is the purpose of class action suits but companies recently discovered they can put an arbitration clause in their contracts denying you the right to hold them accountable through the legal system and instead, on an individual basis, forces you to use a arbiter that almost always rules in favor of the company.

      For awhile I tried to vote with my wallet by purposely avoiding doing business with companies that had arbitration clauses but now they're all doing it and so consequently it is impractical, if not impossible, to do anything without agreeing to an arbitration clause.

    27. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The contract determines if they can raise rates during the contract. If it says they can and you don't like that, don't sign the contract. Plenty of contracts in the real world allow increasing the rates before completion of the contract.

    28. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's how I feel about adults who play fantasy games or video games or who read/watch sci-fi - and double that if they actually talk about doing so. That's all escapism to avoid dealing with relevant life issues.

      Of course, I know people who feel the same way about my "hobby" interests - legal, political, technology, and science.

    29. Re:TV=Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would the price of a laptop and cable service be related in any way?

      The laptop was built by uneducated children in China who barely know what they are building and was shipped to you in a giant cargo ship. Did the manufacturer of your laptop ever come by your house to fix a problem with the laptop? Did the manufacturer of your laptop ever have to get permits and pay contractors to dig up the streets around your house to run fiber? Did the manufacturer of the laptop incur higher costs because you used the laptop more?

    30. Re:TV=Waste of money by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      We should add more laws. Because government is not the reason for these monopolies... (hint, even Google can't break through the government barriers.)

    31. Re:TV=Waste of money by colin_young · · Score: 1

      It's to the point that when I was researching internet-only plans when the provider I eventually went (Frontier) with told me the price was $30, I said, no, really, what's the total after taxes and fees and they said "$30" and I said, really, what about after all the "taxes" and "fees" and they said "$30" and I still didn't believe them. I went ahead anyway because they were the best price and service and I figured the other guys (I have a choice of 3-4 providers) would have similar fees so it wouldn't matter. Then the first bill came and it was $30.

    32. Re:TV=Waste of money by morethanapapercert · · Score: 2
      The issue is that this is extremely one-sided. They are changing the price after making a deal with a customer, even doing this to customers who sign on for a limited promotional offer. Oh sure, they almost certainly have a clause in their contracts that says they can change the deal at any time. But that is the whole point . It is a general, but often overlooked principle that contracts have to provide value of some kind to all parties involved. I offer to sell you widgets at X, you commit to buying Y cases of them per month. Whether I am asking an outrageous price or not doesn't matter. Unless the contract stipulates certain quality control measures, whether I decide to change the design and make a cheaper widget also doesn't matter. I get money, you get widgets.

      In most contracts (between businesses) there are usually experts on both sides who make sure their own organizations interests are protected. When one side or the other fails to live up to their obligations, there is tort law they can turn to for a remedy. Consumers are ever increasingly not able to do that. It has become standard for contracts offered by companies to include clauses for: mandatory mediation (in the jurisdiction of the companies choice no less), company can change the deal at any time, for any reason and with no notice, The company can even sever the contract if they see fit. The consumer can only end the contract, typically with a penalty for early cancellation. Moreover, we are seeing companies exerting political influence to protect their monopolies so that consumers can't even move to another provider. No one factor seems illegally unfair, and the courts have often upheld them. But the sum total of factors creates an extremely unbalanced and unfair situation.

      The best option for the consumer is to not play the game in the first place. And the cable and land line phone companies have seen market share and gross revenue drop dramatically as a result. As is typical of corporate thinking, instead of becoming more competitive and innovative, they are choosing to instead squeeze their remaining customer base that little bit more. I'm willing to bet that anyone who calls customer service and complains can get these fees waived for 6 mths.(that's long enough for these fees to be "standard industry practice" in the courts and customers to exhaust their protests.) But unless there is truly MASSIVE outrage and record numbers of customer walking away permanently, you won't see actual change.

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    33. Re:TV=Waste of money by whoever57 · · Score: 1

      They will allow you to opt out, should you wish, in writing (snail-mail only) as long as your letter arrives in time.

      And, of course, they keep asking you and you must keep opting out. Cute.

      --
      The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
    34. Re:TV=Waste of money by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      You really that naive? And here I thought corporate mis-education was a waste of time.

  2. Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is great for shareholder value. Cable TV fees were always too low.

    People sometimes invite non-subscribers to watch tv, they should be charged a nominal monthly fee for this.

    People sometimes mute commercials, they should be charged for this.

    People sometimes use unauthorized/illegal DVRs, there should be be a fee for this.

    People sometimes don't watch tv at all, they should be charged for this.

    Poeple sometimes flip channels very quickly, missing commercials, they should be charged for this.

    1. Re:Great! by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      Please don't give those cocksuckers any further ideas.

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    2. Re: Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're going to impose a "slashdot" fee next. Honestly they just don't have control over this, so they can't put it in the contract. If you think the "slashdot fee" is too high call up your elected representative and ask why they are passing laws that are bad for the people? What you don't have this law on the books? It's ok Comcast will collect the fee anyway, just in case. Now THAT'S good service!

  3. Vote with your Wallet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And Tell them to take there Cable and stick it where the Light Don't Shine.

    They seem to think they can do whatever they PLEASE, If it was me I would NOT pay anymore to them if I was Under Contract.

    They Lie Cheat and Steal from ALL its Users.

    Anyway if you have a Contract then I would just Pay that till they Cut me Off them CORD CUTTING comes there way and they wonder why they have been PAYING the Cable Industry all this time.

    1. Re: Vote with your Wallet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean 'their'

  4. just go to the competition by houghi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People will say there is no competition, but there is. They are competing for your time and your eyes.
    Once you understand that, you will know there is a lot of it. Start doing that thing you never had time for.

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    Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    1. Re:just go to the competition by rickb928 · · Score: 2

      Wow. All this time I thought they were 'competing' for your money. I'm betting they would not accept an eyeball in the post for payment.

      Yes, I know your attention is marketable, but if the cable cos worked somewhat like Google or Facebook, for instance, your service would be free, but your TV would be on 24x7, you would have to wait through ads for what you aren't very interested in to actually *see* what you wanted, your DVR would include unskippable ads and would arbitrarily include whatever they wanted to pimp to you, and you would be offered all manner of benefits in exchange for watching or listening to what *they* wanted you to, whenever you watched. And they would listen in to try and discern your interests, so that they could mold them into something profitable.

      As it is, they almost play both ends against the middle. Almost.

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  5. comcast business static ip you are forced to rent by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    comcast business static ip you are forced to rent the modem

  6. Because they can by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's as simple as that. As long as people keep paying, they will increase their prices.

  7. for some they are the only internet choice by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    for some they are the only internet choice.
    Other then maybe slow DSL or capped LTE

    1. Re:for some they are the only internet choice by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      *other than*

      This is a great turn of phrase, seeming to prove the point, and of course not.

      Not a great choice, maybe not even a fair choice, but a choice. Patience. Band 71.

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      deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
    2. Re:for some they are the only internet choice by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Not a great choice, maybe not even a fair choice, but a choice. Patience. Band 71.

      It's a choice between internet that is unsuitable for purpose (DSL, LTE) or internet which is more or less suitable for purpose, which is no choice at all.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    3. Re: for some they are the only internet choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Capped LTE? Comcast is capped at 1TB... sorry if this spoiled your day. (Both LTE and Comcast will let you get past the cap by paying even more.)

    4. Re:for some they are the only internet choice by tepples · · Score: 1

      "For a particular subscriber's monthly data transfer volume, the LTE providers are even more expensive than Comcast." Would this phrasing be more honest?

    5. Re:for some they are the only internet choice by tepples · · Score: 1

      Sincerely boycotting Comcast may require tough choices:

      - Changing your purpose to match what DSL is suitable for
      - Changing your location to another city where the incumbent high-speed high-volume home Internet provider happens to be a company other than Comcast

    6. Re:for some they are the only internet choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe its time to re-evaluate how much you actually need the internet? I can get by perfectly fine with library internet access or even free wifi.

      Most people use less than 5 GB a month once you strip away the advertisements which is perfectly fine when using LTE. Oh, you dont know how to strip away the advertisements? dont know how to protect yourself from the internet? well then you really shouldn't be on the internet.

      Contrary to what most people believe, you do not actually need it and you can live a very happy and rewarding life without it. So, if your ISP is going to keep extorting money from you then find a way to drop them, anything else is just an excuse so that you can whine about bullshit on the internet.

    7. Re:for some they are the only internet choice by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      While this is true, their Internet service is usually $40-80 depending on plan, and the plans are generally good enough that one of the streaming services (YouTube TV, SlingTV, the "Live TV" add-on for HULU, etc) will work fine on it with the added advantage it'll work a little more smoothly than cable does these days (which only works "smoothly" if you're using it the same way you did in 1995 before DVRs came along.)

      Getting your Internet from Comcast and getting your TV from somewhere else solves most of the problems associated with these price increases, which are mostly to do with Comcast and the TV channels making backroom agreements that aren't in your best interests. The Internet, even Comcast's version of it, is separate from all of that.

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    8. Re:for some they are the only internet choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moving? Really?

      "Ok maw. I hear there's cheap cable in Oregon. I've got to buy some oxen and a wagon. Get the children ready to go, we are heading to the Oregon Trail!!!!.
      Eh-ha."

    9. Re:for some they are the only internet choice by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      Maw has died from dysentary.

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    10. Re: for some they are the only internet choice by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      No, just because the phrase "other than" is used we cannot conclude that what follows is a set of reasonable choices. For example "There is no way to avoid getting older, other than faster than light travel and suicide."

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      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    11. Re:for some they are the only internet choice by antdude · · Score: 1

      Or satellite and dial-up. :(

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  8. Sue them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At what point will people stop taking these insanely one sided "contracts" ?

    It's the same with tech EULA, make it stop already.

    1. Re: Sue them? by evenmoreconfused · · Score: 1

      Itâ(TM)s called a Contract of Adhesion. Perfectly normal in the business world, courts accept them as written, but reportedly many apply extra scrutiny and give the benefit of doubt to the consumer.

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      No. Well...maybe. Actually, yes. It really just depends.
  9. "Cord Cutters" is a term created by cable co's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've moved off of a cable provider now for about 9 months. The wife has coined the term 'attic tv' for the dual antenna I built and have installed in the attic, as our HOA does not allow terrestrial antennas mounted in view . Make it's difficult to say the least.
    Its however like stepping back about 20 to 25 years. The programming on the air wave channels are re-runs of 1990's and early 2000 movies.
    Ed Sullivan shows, BuzzR tv is game shows. that's fun... :|
    All local news channels are the most current, but you are left with the feeling that you are not entertained .. be sure to have a Redbox near by.. or up your sub services..such as Hulu.. or whatever your online provider

    Now remind you, all is for very little cost... that of the cost for the materials to build a simple antenna.. aluminum foil, cardboard and $2 ballun from Walmart, and some coax cable...

    So the cable companies can raise the rates all they want.. I've moved on.. Save's me about 1200 a year.. depending on programing choices of course...
    But none the less.. no contract.. and I still have gigabit internet to the house..

    So go ahead Comcast.. raise your rates.. have at it.. at some point.. those of us that are only having your service as a convenience will give up on TV altogether..

    1. Re:"Cord Cutters" is a term created by cable co's by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's however like stepping back about 20 to 25 years. The programming on the air wave channels are re-runs of 1990's and early 2000 movies.
      Ed Sullivan shows, BuzzR tv is game shows. that's fun.

      This is caused by multipathing bounce from Tau Ceti. Go up there and tweak your antenna over another arcsecond.

    2. Re:"Cord Cutters" is a term created by cable co's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...our HOA does not allow terrestrial antennas mounted in view...

       
      If the anetnna mast is lower than 12 feet higher than your roof line they can't do anything about it. https://www.fcc.gov/media/over-air-reception-devices-rule

    3. Re:"Cord Cutters" is a term created by cable co's by danbert8 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You should tell your HOA that there is a federal law preventing them from restricting antenna installations unless they can show it doesn't put an unreasonable burden on you.
      https://www.fcc.gov/media/over...

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      Yes it's an anecdote! Were you expecting original research in a Slashdot comment?
    4. Re:"Cord Cutters" is a term created by cable co's by MrLogic17 · · Score: 2

      This. I've fought HOA's over this and won with a single page letter.
      They can't argue with Federal law. Mount your dish wherever the heck you want to, and tell them to take a hike.

      Side note: stuff like this is why I'll never move to an area with a HOA again. Too many unemployed, busybody, control freaks telling me what I can & can't do on my own property.

    5. Re:"Cord Cutters" is a term created by cable co's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [...] Its however like stepping back about 20 to 25 years. The programming on the air wave channels are re-runs of 1990's and early 2000 movies.
      Ed Sullivan shows, BuzzR tv is game shows. that's fun... :|
      All local news channels are the most current, but you are left with the feeling that you are not entertained ...[...]

      I live in WA state, and the broadcast TV programming is geared primarily toward an African-American audience, for some fucked-up reason(s). I live in a predominantly white demographic. The local news is nothing more than just-plain-nasty, with social-extremist puff-pieces narrated by cheap skanks with garish makeup and Inflate-A-Bras. As far as I'm concerned, TV is a health hazard.

  10. Talk about nickle and diming. by stealth_finger · · Score: 2

    Talk about nickle and diming.

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    1. Re:Talk about nickle and diming. by sheramil · · Score: 1

      Yeah. This reminds me of the way Photobucket self-destructed, for some reason.

  11. Re:comcast business static ip you are forced to re by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    Are you forced to rent the modem? I think you can buy one.

  12. In related news... by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 1

    Comcast also stated they will be raising fees on their buggy whip rentals, and mandating you buy one.

  13. rabbit ears + Cable modem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just get Rabbit Ears - you do miss out on a lot of local pro sports but its no longer worth the price considering you also have to watch so many ads during the games.

    1. Re:rabbit ears + Cable modem by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 2

      If you are pretty far out from the transmission antenna, 30 or 40 miles, you'll need something more substantial than that. You can install an outdoor antenna, in the attic if necessary due to regulations. If your in an apartment building your SOL. Apartment buildings used to have Master Antenna Systems (MATV) to serve the complex for free with an antenna on the roof. But now many condo associations demand that you pay for cable TV as they get this bulk deal to signup the entire building. If your further out from a large city, such as 70 miles, or behind a mountain, your SOL.They originally created CATV to serve distant communities by putting an antenna up on a mountain and sending the signals down to the town and charging a nominal fee to maintain the antenna and cable. Some franchise authorities have a stipulation in their franchise agreement that they be required to seell you just local stations at a low monthly rate. You may want to look into that if you are in a rural area.

      Another alternative that used to exist for rural areas was the big C band dish, which you could use to get a lot of programming for free. That has languished after the market was taken over by mini dish subscription services where you find yourself in a similar situation to cable tv services.

      If you need Cable and you want to save money, some of the cable companies allow you to use your TVs built in Clear QAM tuner, some also provide a cheap "tuning adapter". Cable Cards never really seem to have caught on, instead of charging a one time fee they seem to want to charge a recurring fee for this which is quite above what the card costs.

    2. Re:rabbit ears + Cable modem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are 30 to 40 miles out, get an amplified antenna -- ($25 to $60) -- same rabbit ears with a wall-wort to plug in (you need to be >~20 miles out for it to work -- too close and you need to unplug the wall-wort)

    3. Re:rabbit ears + Cable modem by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      Even if you rent, you may be able to install an antenna. If you own your property, there are federal laws that allow you to install an antenna for the purpose of receiving video broadcasts and despite what HOAs may claim, you can install them on your roof.
      https://www.fcc.gov/media/over...

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    4. Re:rabbit ears + Cable modem by PPH · · Score: 1

      in the attic if necessary due to regulations

      Yeah. I'm waiting for my HOA to try and enforce their antenna rules. Me and the FCC will tell them to go suck an egg.

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  14. Roku + digital antenna + streaming service by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    Problem solved.

    I recently got Hulu for $12 a year. It's okay, but I would not pay much more than that. Curiousitystream for $20 a year is a better value for me.

    Lots to choose from.

    I think you can buy your own cable modem as well.

    1. Re:Roku + digital antenna + streaming service by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 2

      I think you can buy your own cable modem as well.

      I have ComCast Business. Nope, you must rent it. Like a different comment says, I think it's for the business SLA -- in addition, they KNOW what's on the other end, how to access and configure it, and already have a warehouse full of 'em. If you've got your own modem, they don't know how to buy it or configure it, and you probably don't know know or have forgotten. But that's bad for their SLA, so I think modem rental is just a cost of doing business.

      Curiousitystream for $20 a year is a better value for me.

      I've been thinking about that (CS). Check out this. Not 100% sure it includes everything but I kinda think so. That'd be half-price and that even includes OTHER stuff as well.

      And I got an email from Hulu -- apparently they're running a New Customer promotion for $1/month for 6 / 9 / 12? months.

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    2. Re:Roku + digital antenna + streaming service by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      You MUST rent it. You can also bridge the thing and treat it as a demarc.

    3. Re:Roku + digital antenna + streaming service by MrLogic17 · · Score: 1

      >I have ComCast Business. Nope, you must rent it.

      Nope. I have ComCast Business, and I bought my own modem.

      Payback was (as I recall) 6 months. Makes good business sense financially, and turning off any "xfinity hot spots" is great for reducing liability. My Internet service is mine, and any schmuck walking by. Plus my own modem is more reliable. Haven't had to reset the modem yet- contrasted with the monthly routine with theirs.

      Modems are a commodity item. There are dozens of flavors on Amazon for crying out loud. Installation was trivial - literally plug & play. The modem I got had a handy install cheat sheet - but didn't need it.

      Stop making excuses and just do it.

    4. Re:Roku + digital antenna + streaming service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This wasn't my experience with Comcast. We had to rent their modem. It was a Puma 6 and had all the problems. We got them to replace it but they won't do that anymore.

      No I live elsewhere, in the land of Cox. Business internet, static IP, my Arris modem, great price, perfect internet happiness. I have sworn off Comcast forever in the Southeast--but they are fine in New England. People need to keep in mind that it's not a monolithic company.

  15. Re: comcast business static ip you are forced to r by TuballoyThunder · · Score: 2, Informative
    That is usually due to the fact that there is an SLA and therefore they are providing connectivity at a guaranteed level. If there is any disruptions due to hardware failure, they will replace it. Businesses that want static IPs generally are sensitive to outages, hence the SLA. The marginal higher cost associated with a SLA is usually negligible compared to the revenue being generated.

    I'm not a Comcast fan, but this practice makes total sense and is the norm for the industry.

  16. Pirate master race reporting in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On behalf of all PIRATE MASTER RACE, thanks for being a PAYCUCK.
    I can download anything I want for free. It's the à la carte dream for $0.00 per month.

  17. Excellent...this may be great timing! by Jedi+Holocron · · Score: 1

    I just noticed yesterday that the local internet supplier is adding fiber to my location. $70/mo for 1Gig/symmetrical. Might finally make the jump...guess I'll hold off moving to Xfinity Mobile.

    1. Re:Excellent...this may be great timing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh? So you've ended up at 70/month + whatever you stream / purchase, when we used to consider $80+/month high, and ... what do you need gig internet for exactly? I guess if you're in the download business, or the up/down of graphics content - but otherwise ... you have "cooler" internet for no reason ?

      Way to show them and only pay $80+/month though!

      Or poster below, lol at $150/month. Just go to a bar for every single sporting event and you can easily come out less if you watch what you drink.

  18. Re: comcast business static ip you are forced to r by TuballoyThunder · · Score: 1

    Usually not in this case. I looked into getting a static IP and all the providers required their equipment on the customer premises for their standard offerings. I'm sure you can customize the contract to avoid that, but that takes time and probably smart to involve a lawyer.

  19. airlines include fees, why not make cable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    When the airline says "your flight is $500" that is all in, airport fees, tsa fees and such are all included and by law have to be. Why not do the same thing for cable? if you advertise $50 per month and deliver a $75 bill then you should be sued for false advertising...and LOSE...

    1. Re:airlines include fees, why not make cable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their claim is that since they don't know your exact location until after you purchase, they can't say ahead of time which taxes/fees they'll need to include on your bill. When you're buying a plane ticket, you know the departure and arrival points before purchase. Not that I agree with the practice, but that's their excuse. I pay more to a 3rd party ISP who doesn't include such bullshit. Stop only looking at the initial lower cost and instead start sending your business to more respectable companies. That's the only way you can fight these types of things.

  20. Equipment rental is highway robbery by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    I see UHD TVs being sold for 300$, all kinds of dvd recorders and blue ray players under 50, 64GB memory under 50, Chromebooks under 100...

    And the stupid set top box that they installed several years ago is being charged 10 to 20 $ a month!

    Just last week I had an hour long chat with Xfinity rep. Started with the low ball, 80$ a month triple play. Ended up at 130$ a month with two year contract. Compared to Gigabit internet from FiOS currently at 150$. Even that contract price has hidden fees it looks like..

    Resigned to paying the highway robbery prices for now... But a day will come there will be enough bandwidth to skip all these fibers and coax cables. There will be true competition. I will have no sympathy for these companies then.

    But... all those Criminal This Officer and Criminal ThatOfficer would have cashed in their chips and be sharpening their shears for the next round of fleecing in a new industry. The share holders of these companies are the ones who will end up seeing their investments dwindle in value. The middle management and workers will have their livelihoods devastated.

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  21. Go on.... by MerlTurkin · · Score: 4, Informative

    Keep bending over for the cable companies people. DITCH THAT TV service. I'll save over $1,200 this year due to ditching mine last December.

  22. Terminate service then. by mark-t · · Score: 2
    FTA:

    Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey found that Comcast advertised a $99 lock-in rate but "did not adequately disclose equipment costs and mandatory monthly fees" that would add to monthly bills and "failed to adequately disclose that the fees could increase while the customer was locked into the long-term contract."

    While there may not be anything people can do about keeping their original contract prices, that failure to disclose substantially weakens their ability to hold people to remaining on that contract, and it wouldn't surprise me if they aren't able to actually enforce any early termination fees they might have decided should otherwise apply, particularly since the customer would have had no practical way to anticipate in advance that these changes were about to occur.

    1. Re:Terminate service then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You actually think that Comcasts preferred mandatory arbitrator would care about any of that "contract law" ?

    2. Re:Terminate service then. by mark-t · · Score: 1

      I think that such would only be applicable of a customer were expecting compensation for the changing of the terms of the original contract, for example, compensation equivalent to the difference between their new rates and old for the remaining duration of the contract. Which, as I had already suggested, they probably wouldn't be able to get.

      IANAL, but I've read a bit about this sort of thing, and it's my understanding that since the customer would not have had any practical means of anticipating that the terms of the contract would change, Comcast would not be able to enforce their own ends of the termination of contract agreement either (ie, collection of any kind of early termination fees). The customer could, basically, just walk away from this.

      If Comcast tries to send any sort of early termination fee bill to collections, the collection agency will have no choice but to side the the customer who will have presumably paid in full for the services that they actually received, as well as returned any equipment that they did not actually own.

      And honestly, if you think having a single cable bill sent to collections will irreparably damage your credit rating, especially one that will be discharged when the collection agency learns that the fee is not actually legally enforceable in the first place because of unwarranted change of contract terms, then it's already in bad enough shape as it is.

      Of course, if you go down this road, don't ever expect to be able to deal with Comcast again... decisions have their consequences, and it is not entirely unlikely that they may refuse to offer any further service to you, indefinitely.

  23. Retans fees by moschner · · Score: 1

    Your local TV stations, or more specifically their greedy parent companies, are to blame for the hike in Retransmission Fees. The ACA expects fees to keep going up. These fees vary from region to region.

    The station owners have been using money from fees to buy more stations so they can leverage cable companies to raise fees.

    Getting rid of the fees would require fixing the retransmission consent provision of the 1992 United States Cable Television Consumer Protection and Competition Act. That forces cable operators and other rebroadcasters to obtain permission from broadcasters before carrying their programming.

    It also wouldn't hurt to break up the cable companies and to break up the companies that own scads of local stations.

    1. Re:Retans fees by PPH · · Score: 1

      This.

      I remember when cable TV systems were essentially community antennas. Because reception was crap in hilly areas and local TV broadcasts couldn't be seen in a large part of their market. So the cable systems provided value to the broadcasters (more viewers). And did so without asking for compensation from the local stations and networks.

      One approach to breaking up the cable companies would be to offer free re-transmission rights to cooperatively owned cable systems. In effect, going back to the community antenna system.

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    2. Re:Retans fees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why I support the charitable work of locast.org! I can get free local channels from many of the major metro areas.

  24. Cordcutting isn't cheap by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    I think Comcast figured out that cord cutting isn't cheap. So they have less to fear from competition. If they raise the ala carte prices too then then they also have more room to cut you a deal on that "internet phone cable " bundle.

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    1. Re:Cordcutting isn't cheap by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

      You are correct.

      However, the only reason cord cutting isn't cheap is the same reason people are on FB:
      FOMO.

      Why aren't people ok with just NF or Prime?
      I talk to people who have like 4, 5 or 6 different streaming services for content.
      WTF!?
      Why?!?

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    2. Re:Cordcutting isn't cheap by torkus · · Score: 1

      I haven't subscribed to cable TV myself in ... at least 15 years. I've had it in the house occasionally due to roommates and the like but never bothered to hook it up for myself.

      I do laugh at people who still spend endless hours watching whatever shows. On the odd chance one interests me, i'll download the whole series and watch it at my leisure - usually on a long flight or while commuting.

      Otherwise netflix and amazon prime serve their purpose well enough, tho NF is only around because it's more annoying to cancel than the $10 is worth. They've removed too much content to be of good value anymore.

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    3. Re:Cordcutting isn't cheap by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Two words: Live Sports.

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    4. Re:Cordcutting isn't cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just sound like someone who isn't interested in cable tv.

      I've never had it, but it's not exactly "cord cutting". Many people didn't have cable tv before any of the streaming services. If anything you've added $20/month for no real reason.

    5. Re:Cordcutting isn't cheap by Pascoea · · Score: 1

      Pretty much. Like watching Football? OTA will get you the ABC/NBC/CBS Sunday games. (Good luck if you don't like the local team, though.) Monday night? Those are on ESPN, so now you have Sling. Thursday games? Those are on the NFL network, so you need the "other" sling, or Amazon Prime.

    6. Re:Cordcutting isn't cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll ignore phone because everyone under 40 does anyway. I still vividly remember the first time my daughter saw a telephone and asked me what it was. I explained and she followed up with "why not just use your cell phone?". Only old people buy phones and that is a self solving problem given enough time.

      This leaves cable and internet. You don't watch most of cable. Most of what you do watch is just because 7pm to 10pm is when your life is open enough to watch television and you have nothing better to do. Literally any other hobby/activity is cheaper than what you are paying for cable. So stop paying.

      "cord cutting" only becomes expensive when you don't actually cut. You don't get to subscribe to netflix, amazon, hulu, and espn and claim to be "cord cutting".

    7. Re: Cordcutting isn't cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck sports, sports fans, sports bars full of yelling troglodytic thugs with livers exploded by cheap beer, preparing to drive home deadly drunk in their fucking thug-black Tahoes and Escalades, sports betting, sports betting outcome driven domestic violence, traumatic brain injury, soccer riots, soccer in general, public tax money spent on sports stadiums, and cable sports fees. That and the shitty midget porn spectacle that TLC degenerated into. Fuck QVC and HEN. Fuck Joel Osteen. Fuck bundling. Not on my screen and not from my wallet.

    8. Re:Cordcutting isn't cheap by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      I do laugh at people who still spend endless hours watching whatever shows.

      Often? Are you sitting in your chair at home just laughing and laughing?

      I'd say be less concerned with what others are doing and read a book, but this seems to bring you more joy so keep at it :)

    9. Re: Cordcutting isn't cheap by Pascoea · · Score: 1

      I bet you'd be a lot of fun at a party.

  25. Yes, must rent on Biz Account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is true.

    I have a Comcast biz account with 5 static IPs, a /29. Their modem/router is set to bridge mode, but they manage the BGP routing on the device since the highest IP is my subnets "gateway" IP. I can control a few things in their router settings, but it really isn't worth touching.
    So we see their router as external and connect our wifi APs into it. Wifi is too dangerous to be allowed direct access to our LAN, so those devices aren't trusted without a full VPN. This also simplifies guest access security.

    We have our own pfSense router where we control everything on our network.

    I know 2 people with a single static IP on Comcast Biz being able to use their own equipment, provided it was approved models. These are very stubborn people and said they had to call multiple times before getting a CSR who would transfer the connection to new equipment.

  26. and the wonder why people keep cutting the cord. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    the higher the bill gets, the less people will stick around. the prices are already too high. remember when cable was supposed to not have commercials? you pay to watch, and still have to watch commercials. that makes no sense. they should make a free service, and have it paid for by running commercials during the broadcast. but nope, they want $ from everyone involved, from the lowly subscribing customers to the advertisers paying for the commercials. they really wonder why people keep ditching cable, the companies are too greedy. they will jsut keep raising prices to make up for the lost customers, and that in itself will lead to more customers leaving. it's a feedback loop, and the only people suffering are the ones too stupid to give up their cable tv.

  27. Re: comcast business static ip you are forced to by misnohmer · · Score: 1

    FIOS terminates ethernet at my house and offers static IP. No equipment rental required, I use my own routers. The only time my bill ever went up was when I switched to higher bandwidth plans, other than that same bill every month. Have been with them for over a decade now.

  28. No Reason for Cable/Sat TV by sycodon · · Score: 1

    If you spend any appreciable amount of time surfing Cable TV channels, you need to rethink your life.

    Netflix, $9 a month
    Hulu, something like $9 a month
    Amazon Prime, right in there too.

    Throw in some specialty channels on specialty networks and you are at maybe $50 at most (plus internet connection). You can get local channels over the air if you want. And if you are too far away, you probably don't care.

    Bottom line..cancel Cable/Sat TV. Get the channels you WANT to watch, and then....go outside.

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    1. Re: No Reason for Cable/Sat TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great idea in theory. I just tried to do that with Comcast. Except that gigabit service alone is $150/month, but theyâ(TM)re running a promotion for gigabit + TV at $90/month. So even paying the TV fees itâ(TM)s still cheaper than without TV. And Iâ(TM)m not even using their TV feed because the programming is too limited and it would cost too much extra to add the channels I want. Comcast sucks. The second Sonic brings fiber to my area Iâ(TM)ll send the bastards packing.

    2. Re: No Reason for Cable/Sat TV by bob4u2c · · Score: 1

      What the flip do you need a Gigabit connection for? Most video streams need 5Megabit at the most, maybe 25Megabit for 4K video.

      P.S. buy a good cable modem if you haven't already, the overall cost is much lower and your provider can't turn your hardware into a hot spot for your neighbors. As for people who worry about equipment failure; most new equipment has a 2 year warranty and will pay for itself in less than 10 months. So even if you bought new equipment every two years when the warranty failed your still ahead, plus you have all new equipment which you won't with Comcast (or any provider for that matter).

    3. Re: No Reason for Cable/Sat TV by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      100 mbps or even 50 can stream ten videos at once. Why do you need Gigabit?

  29. Re: comcast business static ip you are forced to by TuballoyThunder · · Score: 1

    The demarc point for Verizon is the ONT not the router. Usually Verizon provides a router that has MOCA (so they only need to run coax into the premises) but they are more than willing to provide Ethernet over twisted pair.

  30. Re: comcast business static ip you are forced to by TuballoyThunder · · Score: 1

    And, yes, Verizon FIOS is much better than Comcast

  31. Re: comcast business static ip you are forced to by TuballoyThunder · · Score: 1

    And residential static IP service does not have a SLA. They don't guarantee any level of service.

  32. Lies! "You can avoid the modem fee" my ass! by TexasDiaz · · Score: 1

    I just went through this with Comcast, and I feel like I was lied to every step of the way. Long story short it turns out you CANNOT purchase a cable modem compatible with Comcast's gigabit offering, because they ALSO require that the modem supports their Internet Voice service, and ONLY Comcast Modems support that. Grimey fuckers.

    The long story is: I called into Tech Support because I wanted to upgrade to their Super Triple Play, because getting virtually EVERY channel and upgraded gigabit internet turned out to cost $10 LESS than I was paying for my stripped-down service offering. Though, this was only the case if I purchased my own modem and eliminated the modem fee - which is great, because renting equipment is insane. So the comcast tech told me I should be good to go, but I needed to upgrade to a DOCSIS 3.1 compatible modem (my current modem was only DOCSIS 3.0 compatible). Their recommendation was that I go ahead and use their modem for a month to make installation easier, and buy a modem later to save time.

    I went on ahead and scheduled the upgrade, and quickly ordered a DOCSIS 3.1 compatible modem (newest Arris Surfboard they make) - Amazon Prime got it to me in 2 days, boo-yah. I called Comcast Tech Support again to make sure my modem was good, and that I could use my modem during the setup instead of theirs, and they said it was fine. Again they said their recommendation was to use their modem during setup and replace theirs with mine later, but that the plan was still solid.

    Tech guy shows up, calls in my MAC address, everything initially seemed to go as scheduled. However, I wasn't getting gigabit speeds, but he said that should work itself out in about 30 minutes, once the account is "closed" and everything finalizes (I also couldn't see HBO, which also meant the account hadn't finalized). He closes the account, calls in to make sure everything is good, and leaves.

    8 hours later, still cannot access HBO and still don't have gigabit speeds. I call back, and the tech tells me that my account hasn't been closed yet. The service tech still needs to close it out, and I should have the tech come back tomorrow to close it out. I argue that I won't be home, I have a goddamn job and all, and I demand to know what hasn't been closed out about the account that requires a service tech. They told me my voice service hasn't been set up, and it's required in order to close the account. They highly recommend that I have the tech come back, use their modem to set up the voice service since the modem I bought doesn't support voice, and then replace the modem with a different compatible modem later.

    So I got into an argument about my modem, that I was told my modem was compatible with gigabit internet, and he kept telling me I needed to refer to the online info about supported third-party modems. He kept recommending I have the support tech come back, install their modem, and find a third-party replacement later. After about 10 minutes on the call, the tech starts acting like he can't hear me any more. Bullshit. Then he says if I can hear him to call back later. And then he hangs up.

    So I call back, and explain my situation and the jackwad I had just talked to, and the new tech dude repeated the "I recommend you use our modem to set up the service, and replace with a new compatible modem." So at that point I said there isn't a modem compatible with their Voice service, and it was not within my budget to rent a modem from them. The dude didn't say a word more to me, but forwarded my call to someone else.

    The new person answered, and I asked if I needed to repeat my situation. She said nope, she knew what the problem was. She verified that gigabit internet from Comcast only works with THEIR modem, if I wanted to use any other modem I had to back down to the fastest non-gigabit offering. And then she recommended several ways I could even further reduce my bill by asking me specific questions about how I use my DVR and other services, and even recommended a Ro

    1. Re:Lies! "You can avoid the modem fee" my ass! by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Gigabit is a sham anyway -- the rest of the Internet isn't really fast enough to benefit from it. Downgrade to 100 mbps and call it a day.

  33. How I read it the first time by eclectro · · Score: 1

    "with the typical total price gouge from $14.50 to $18.25 a month."

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  34. Government intervention, please! by EndlessNameless · · Score: 1

    What happens if those customers under contract want to cancel? Will they get slapped with an early termination fee? I'm betting that's the norm.

    My Christmas wish: I want the FTC and the FCC to slap around the TV and internet providers until they start acting right.

    I'll even negotiate around political and economic ideals. I don't care if the government cancels existing benefits/protections or enacts new requirements, as long as these companies get the message.

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  35. shut... by usr1987 · · Score: 1

    shut up and pay... kardashians are on soon

  36. Fees for things I don't use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't even watch the "Sports" channels - at all. Being fleeced for things you don't even use. And of course, they can tell if you use them.

  37. Ahaha! Freedumbs Win Again!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Youre soooooo free Amerikujs!

  38. 49.99 per month by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    69.99 per month PLUS 14.95 local broadcast fee PLUS 29.96 install fee PLUS 40.00 modem fee x 4 rooms PLUS 10.95 Federal tax PLUS 9.95 State tax PLUS 4.95 Local tax Total 2 to 3 times the advertised price It's the "user fees" and crap where they make their real money.

  39. Rich guy here: I won't even put up with this crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not even the price increases that get to me- but the way in which they go about it. I canceled my cable TV subscription when they tried to force a cable box on me way back in the day. They gave us three "free" cable boxes, but refused to acknowledge an increase in price as I had a lot more TVs than that. I never did end up subscribing to cable Internet services either. I tried out cable Internet once, but canceled before my free month was up. It was not what was advertised speed wise and while they do a better job at hiding the fact that they aren't giving you anywhere near what they advertise during prime time hours it's still not right in my mind. If I can get decent ADSL service in an area (ie basically anywhere in a town or not too far outside of one) I'll go with that over cable. Everywhere that I have lived I've actually had much better experiences with ADSL service over everything else. Even fiber service in the two areas I have been able to get it over the years has been lackluster in comparison. It's not to say I wouldn't stick with fiber, but the outages have seemed more frequent on fiber than ADSL. It might in part be a partner with a high degree of anxiety than reality though.

  40. Some are willing to move for better Internet by tepples · · Score: 1

    to another city where the incumbent high-speed high-volume home Internet provider happens to be a company other than Comcast

    Moving? Really?

    Yes really, according to these users. But not everyone feels moving for better Internet is practical, such as these users.

  41. Re:comcast business static ip you are forced to re by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

    Are you forced to rent the modem? I think you can buy one.

    You can buy a modem and use your own if you have residential service, or business service with dynamic IP. Citing "security of their network" (yes, really), they do not allow business users with static IP services to bring their own modem.

    Also, if you are a business subscriber with a plan over 60Mbits/sec and voice service, they will not let you use only one modem, since their voice modems don't support more than that. Even if you explicitly state you are fine being limited to 60Mbits/sec, they will refuse to only provision a single modem.

    Also, they won't give you "just a modem", you get one of those crappy modem/router combos...which do have a bridge mode available, but they're not always careful about keeping that setting when they roll out firmware updates.

    Also, you'll probably find yourself with yet another modem and access point for their CableWiFi service - not the worst thing, but still makes the install take longer and competes with your own WiFi network.

  42. Another reason to be a cord cutter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So... what are you waiting for? Cut the cable cord, use comcast for internet only. Avoid the broadcast fee, buy your modem (avoid the rental fee), and avoid the sports fee.

  43. Aaahahahahahahahaha! *gasp* Hahahahahahahahahaha! by Pezbian · · Score: 1

    It's like the "Fuck you, I'm out." scene from Half-Baked.
    But without anyone/anything cool.

    I need a cigarette... and I don't even smoke.

    --
    In a world of the blind, the one-eyed man is king--and the two-eyed man is a heretic.
  44. FUCK TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get internet. Get Netflix, Hulu, or whatever. Pirate everything you cannot get on-demand.

    If you see comcast cunts in your hood, throw ice water on them, steal their tools, shank their tires.