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Video Games Won't Be Part of the Paris Olympics (fortune.com)

The Olympic Games regularly add new events, but officials aren't quite ready to embrace eSports. From a report: This weekend, the International Olympic Committee met for the 7th Olympic Summit, where competitive video gaming was among the topics of discussion. The verdict? It's still "premature" to discuss including them in the Olympic games. That's bound to be disappointing to supporters, who had hoped for a breakthrough in the 2024 Paris games. Tony Estanguet, co-president of the Paris Olympic committee, is a proponent of bringing video games to the Olympics.

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  1. Good ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OK, sure ... video games, er, ''eSports" is a skill.

    But, seriously, let's not start pretending like this is on the same level as the lifetime of commitment that actual Olympic athletes have put in to get where they are.

    I'm sorry the little nerdlings won't get to compete in the Olympics, but in no way do I think playing a video game is on par with the actual athletes competing in the Olympics.

    This is dumb in my opinion. I refuse to consider pro gamers as 'athletes'

    1. Re:Good ... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      You should look into Korean gaming competition like StarCraft for example. Those guys takes it way more seriously than your "average" pro athlete. They make athletes look like amateurs in terms of commitment.

      They may take it seriously. They may be very skilled and talented. It still isn't a sport though. Somethings like Poker, Board games, Video Games, Golf, Darts, etc... as talented as you might be to do them and even as dedicated as may need to be- they just don't belong in an atheltics competition.

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    2. Re:Good ... by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      In terms of athleticism how is eSports different then from many of the Shooting sports.

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    3. Re:Good ... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      It's an e-sport, not a sport. That's why we have the 2 different words. The Olympics can add anything they like, there's no "sport-only" rule. They broke with tradition when they went beyond the decathlon - it's all just arbitrary competitions. .

      There is still generally a convention that almost all Olympic sports involve some form of athleticism. Olympics isn't really about "sport" either, there are some sports involved, but it is "Athletics" (and obviously most sports involve some athletics). They obviously can do whatever they want- they can even add basket weaving if they so chose.

      But adding non-athletic games would dilute the brand and probably have a consumer backlash.

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    4. Re:Good ... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      In terms of athleticism how is eSports different then from many of the Shooting sports.

      Honestly, other than the ones where they ski across country first, or combine with athletic endeavours, Shooting isn't athletic and probably would be better out and not in the Olympics. It is historically part of the modern Olympics though and certain groups would probably protest if there were a movement to remove it. Shooting was probably first included by association with athletic endeavours. In the 1800's there were probably few people for whom shooting involved going to the gun range or resting in a deer stand waiting for a deer to pass. It frequently involved a military occupation and athletic association.

      If shooting wasn't historically part of the Olympics and they tried to add it new today, I'd probably be against it like I am Video Games.

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    5. Re:Good ... by lgw · · Score: 2

      The Olympics were originally directly tied to skills a warrior would use on the battlefield. As you note, some of the non-athletic events are tied to that. Of course, the future battlefield will be dominated by video games skills, so it's just a matter of time,

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    6. Re:Good ... by nukenerd · · Score: 2

      By that same logic applying make-up should be an olympic sport.

      For men or women?

      I did hear it suggested that setting up colour schemes, wallpaper and fonts in WIndows should be in it. Or Bash prompts in Linux.

    7. Re:Good ... by ichimunki · · Score: 2
      Some of the differences seem sort of arbitrary here... why wouldn't darts be an olympic sport when things like archery or javelin throwing are? Why not golf? I mean, they have beach volleyball and "artistic" swimming in there, after all.

      But I agree, eSports don't belong in the Olympics. Too nebulous and the games themselves change too often to be worth it... not to mention that the games themselves are franchises of for-profit companies. That's way too different from all of the existing games where the fundamental game itself is public domain.

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    8. Re:Good ... by DickBreath · · Score: 3, Funny

      Application of Make Up should have separate men's and women's events in order to keep the competition more fair. Men have more upper body strength and might apply more lipstick at a faster rate than women do. Quantity applied would be the metric for success in the men's competition.

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    9. Re:Good ... by Presence+Eternal · · Score: 2

      What made me decide esports were true sports was seeing that they are every bit as corrupt and despicable as regular pro sports, and in all the same ways. It was actually seeing the filth that permeates esports which made me lose my disrespect of amateur sports players. I still think regular sports are boring, but I realized I had been unfair to them in the past. I was looking at the scum that had floated to the top of the professional leagues, management, and fanbase, and then tarring local softball teams with the same brush.

    10. Re:Good ... by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 2

      For the same reason, we wouldn't consider a piano competition a sport either, even though it requires a level of skill, accuracy, and practice on par with any Olympic sport and has been around for nearly as long.

      I would definitely pay to see people throw pianos in a competition. In all four categories: spinet upright, studio upright, baby grand, and grand. The distance is when they first hit the ground, and not after they tip over.

  2. What games? by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The part of eSports that is the biggest problem for the likes of the Olympics is the standardization on what game(s) to play, and how soon will that game be too old to be interesting to watch anymore. Having it every 4 years (or 2 if you want it both summer and winter) usually will mean the game playing would either be out of date, or the athletes will always be playing something where they are not at their peak with. Games that are 8, 12, 16 years old are less on the eSports list.
    However I do think it would be hilarious if these were open internet games, and during the Olympics the Gold metal hopeful gets shot down by some kid camping out and got a lucky shot.

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  3. Good by rlp · · Score: 2

    While having a separate 'Video Game Olympics" would make sense and be quite interesting, I don't think video gaming fits into the International Olympics - it is not an athletic event.

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    1. Re:Good by bws111 · · Score: 4, Informative

      True, but up until 1948 the Olympics included architecture, literature, music, painting and sculpture categories at various times.

    2. Re:Good by NFN_NLN · · Score: 2

      They also thought smoking was healthy back then... thankfully we learn from past mistakes.

    3. Re:Good by bws111 · · Score: 2

      I'll make it easy for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    4. Re:Good by bws111 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The founder of the modern Olympics wanted it to be about 'men being educated in mind and body competing in something other than war'. The art competitions were removed not because they 'were not athletic events'. but because they had difficulty finding amateur competitors, as well as the inherent difficulties in judging such works.

    5. Re:Good by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      Well, sculpture would work. You have a hammer, chisel, and a block of marble in front of you and then wait for the whistle to blow before you start.

      I must admit, that could actually be fun (fascinating might be better word) to watch if they were given a short period of time and had to work quick. Judging would be a hard task, but there again there are already so many subjective events in the Olympics.

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  4. Re:Chess and Checkers aren't Olympic Sports by ChromeAeonuim · · Score: 2

    Well, I for one won't be satisfied until the International Olympic Committee finally includes Hungry Hungry Hippos as an official sport. Hey, you've got to push the hippo button fast and at the right time, so that makes it a sport now, and it's time it gets the respect every sport deserves. Hippo champions are athletes too, just as much as the gold medalists who spend thousands of hours training and living a strict exercise & diet regime.

  5. Next up: competitive hot dog eating by goombah99 · · Score: 2

    Just because you can compete doesn't make it athletic. Until chess is an Olympic sport no way should video games be a sport.

    Video gaming is not esports, it's video competition.

    This is like how so many fields seem to add the word "science" to their name.

    Data science, social science, bioscience ....

    It's literally a participation medal for the esteem impaired.

    You don't need to call it esports to be worthy of respect in its own field.

    Personally I have been waging an effort to use the word engineering. Like bioengineering . Yes same crutch to dress up the very worthy field of biology in the garb of engineering . But my feeling is I'm elevating the word engineering back to where it belongs. Engineering is not science for lightweights.

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  6. NBC Commentary by Only+Time+Will+Tell · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can only imagine how the commentary around this would go. "Well Jim, it looks like the American team successfully headshotted the French team flag carrier and now appears to be disrespecting their corpse by teabagging it. It's really hard to see that sort of sportsmanship."

  7. Athletes' Village by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2

    I have a couple of friends who are involved in the behind-the-scenes organizing at the Olympics. One thing they said that I found interesting was apparently the amount of sex and associated hanky-panky that goes on at the Athletes' Village is impressive. Can't remember it was London or Vancouver, but one comment was made that they actually ran out of condoms.

    Makes sense - You put all those uber-fit young people together and stuff is bound to happen - Particularly amongst athletes whose events have completed.

    Would be fascinating to watch if you put "eSports" "athletes" into that mix as well... Nerd heaven.

  8. Re:curling needs a lot of arm power! by msauve · · Score: 2

    "curling needs a lot of arm power!"

    ... for lifting all that beer.

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  9. Re:They are all subsets of games.What's your probl by bws111 · · Score: 2

    I was not joking. Also, I did not mean to imply that I think including 'esports' is a good idea. I was just pointing out that, historically, being 'an athletic event' was not a requirement for something to be in the Olympics.

  10. Re:and one emp will make them useless by jpaine619 · · Score: 2

    No they didn't. They absolutely did not say that. The range of an EMP is vastly greater than the range of a shock wave.

    Either you are lying or you are misremembering... or you never had any military training whatsoever.

  11. No one owns basketball by tepples · · Score: 2

    The difference isn't even whether it's athletic or not. It's that nobody owns exclusive rights over team handball or basketball or over the dimensions of a regulation court. By contrast, someone owns exclusive rights over StarCraft or Tetris or whatever form of electronic competition one might consider.

  12. Copyrighted sports by ocsibrm · · Score: 2

    We can go back and forth on the definition of sport all we want, and I'm of the opinion that maybe there's merit in that discussion. That said- My real concern is that no matter what video game(s) was chosen, it would be something entirely owned by one company (or companies). Boxing isn't owned by Pepsi. Discus doesn't get patches every few months from EA that change how spin works to deal with changes in the meta. Nobody is going to release a Fencing 2. All of those are things that can and do happen with video games. To me that makes most of the discussion of including video games in the Olympics meaningless.

  13. Aww shucks.. by GrBear · · Score: 2

    Well how about making it part of the special olympics then?

  14. Re:Replace badminton by dargaud · · Score: 2

    ...and are pretty unhealthy. Have you seen badminton players ? They have an arm 3 times the size of the other. Even compulsive masturbators are not that asymmetric !

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