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US Ballistic Missile Systems Have No Antivirus, No Data Encryption, and No 2FA, DOD Report Finds (zdnet.com)

An anonymous reader writes from a report via ZDNet: No data encryption, no antivirus programs, no multi-factor authentication mechanisms, and 28-year-old unpatched vulnerabilities are just some of the cyber-security failings described in a security audit of the U.S.' ballistic missile system released on Friday by the U.S. Department of Defense Inspector General (DOD IG). The report [PDF] was put together earlier this year, in April, after DOD IG officials inspected five random locations where the Missile Defense Agency (MDA) had placed ballistic missiles part of the Ballistic Missile Defense System (BMDS) -- a DOD program developed to protect U.S. territories by launching ballistic missiles to intercept enemy nuclear rockets.

Here is a summary of the findings: (1) Multi-factor authentication wasn't used consistently. (2) One base didn't even bother to configure its network to use multifactor authentication. (3) Patches weren't applied consistently. (4) One base didn't patch systems for flaws discovered in 1990. (5) Server racks weren't locked. (6) Security cameras didn't cover the entire base. (7) Door sensors showed doors closed when they were actually open. (8) Base personnel didn't challenge visitors on bases without proper badges, allowing access to secure areas. (9) One base didn't use antivirus or other security software. (10) Data stored on USB thumb drives was not encrypted. (11) IT staff didn't keep a database of who had access to the system and why.

190 comments

  1. Why would the DOD need a report? by samdu · · Score: 2

    Shouldn't the DOD know exactly what our missile defense system is running? Why did they need to generate a report for this?

    1. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by JMJimmy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Security through obsolescence and incompatibility

    2. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DoD knows, just not the whole DoD. Only local employees are privy to such things. As to why there is no centralized database of these things? Because they run off the grid.

    3. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

      Shouldn't the DOD know exactly what our missile defense system is running? Why did they need to generate a report for this?

      How do people "know" things? By learning. How would they learn? By reading. What would they read? A report. Where would the report come from? Someone tasked with generating it.

      Do you really think everyone in DoD is somehow born with knowledge about missile system OSes, and all the flaws in those OSes?

      Also, this has nothing to do with the security of "ballistic missiles". The missiles managed by MDA are NOT ballistic.

    4. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'd think it'd be obsolete, but it makes you wonder what OS they're running that existed in 1990. Any OS that old can't be expected to have current patches.

    5. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      They know what's wrong but the skilled buddy team that can fix the problem is working on a list of 50 other ports/base/forts.
      The other buddy team is under watch by the FBI after one of them did something that attracted a security review.
      Too few really skilled mil workers/contractors for the buddy system, too many problems.

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    6. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      The last time this type of report came out they were still using floppy discs

    7. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Learn how to read before you spout. They are BALLISTIC MISSILES being used to shoot down BALLISTIC MISSILES. Yes, they ARE ballistic, because they have to be to hit a ballistic trajectory target before terminal stage.

    8. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, they ARE ballistic, because they have to be to hit a ballistic trajectory target before terminal stage.

      The are NOT ballistic missiles. They have terminal guidance to a moving target.

      Ballistic missile

    9. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your reasoning doesnt make sense. The kill vehicles usually have some guidance to close the error ellipse. But the report doesn't goes into that level of detail.

    10. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The last time this type of report came out they were still using floppy discs

      I'm okay with floppy disks being used as a step to activate nuclear weapons. Force an air gap and real people to be involved. I'm not sure a system that fires a ballistic missile should have an antivirus, since they should never ever ever be running anything that hasn't had its pedigree gone through to the last semicolon. Basically I'd rather have the design be old, but known good, and require a person to take some esoteric list of manual steps, than have it all connected to a network with Windows on it, and plug and play. That esoteric list of steps and weird things like floppies may be a pain to maintain, but it provides some solid security against any kind of remote exploitation.

      Of course the rest of the article summary sounds like shear incompetence. Defence in depth is not optional for critical systems.

    11. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Cito · · Score: 1

      Omg then it was true!

      That nefarious hacker Kevin Mitnick could have hacked and launched nukes by using a phone and whistling... Thank God he was kept in solitary and denied a phone for 6 months.

      Haha

    12. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is SOP for all system "owners". The 15+ years checkin gaps too.

    13. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 4, Funny

      They should install Kaspersky, then they'd be OK, A/V, filtering, an IDS, and a decent auth system all in one product suite.

    14. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit - 1990 hardware did not have USB ports. The first USB device was released in 1996.
      You dumbshits think that you can put a USB stick in anything, especially when they don't fucking exist, just find a hole and stuff it in.

    15. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Omg then it was true!

      That nefarious hacker Kevin Mitnick could have hacked and launched nukes by using a phone and whistling... Thank God he was kept in solitary and denied a phone for 6 months.

      Haha

      The MItnick hysteria was interesting, but ultimately just an example of uninformed people not knowing what was possible and assuming the worst, perhaps due to television.

      AI, on the other hand, seems the real threat, not because I believe your getting real intelligence, but because I believe it will be good enough to act as a lever for powerful people to manipulate the world. Imagine a world, similar to today's, but with everyone having say 50 years of AI tech developed. If you didn't see it in person, perhaps while using a certified recording device, could you tell whether or not an event occurred?

      Can the world survive it becoming impossible to tell truth from fiction? The optimistic view is we will somehow get better at detecting the lies, perhaps using more AI. I'm needless to say skeptical.

    16. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey let us leave Bill Clinton out of this.

    17. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by CaptQuark · · Score: 1

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    18. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by bernywork · · Score: 2
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    19. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by butzwonker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sounds like a penetration test was conducted, including physical access testing. That's normal and good procedure, just a bit shocking that they do it only now and bugs from 1990 haven't been fixed yet...

    20. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shouldn't the DOD know exactly what our missile defense system is running? Why did they need to generate a report for this?

      after the latest windows 10 updates, the lost any hope of keeping track of anything

    21. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by The123king · · Score: 1
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    22. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by TAz00 · · Score: 0

      Are you fucking stupid? Think of it, as quality control.

    23. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They have plenty of security. These guys invented security. Just not the kind millennial nazis like

    24. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      I want to know what "Door censors" are

      (and if I should be using them as part of my security setup)

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    25. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      It's a newfangled cloud gadget which monitors your door and keeps out republicans.

    26. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 4, Informative

      Having been a contractor in this sector a few times, let me just say that it's a revolving door system.

      The DoD, DoE, TSA, DHS, etc... are generally run by people completely lacking the ability to make decisions related to technology. This is not uncommon, hell, most of my company's customers are completely at the mercy of some slide shows and gartner reports.

      Consider this... what percentage of Cisco customers actually need what Cisco pedals? I've been reviewing most of our customer's networks and realized that the average customer paid $20 million over 5 years for their network. I assessed their needs, their requirements (then and now) and concluded that they should throw their networks away completely and replace them with systems costing and average of $500K CapEx and about $200K OpEx annually. But they will continue to spend an average of $4 million a year each because they are completely at the mercy of the salespeople who sell them tons of shit they don't need.

      The TLAs (three letter agencies) aren't even run by business leaders. They are run by bureaucrats. As such, they are even more poorly managed. I've worked with multiple organizations that hire people, stick them in secure environments after their clearance ... well clears and then cycles them out based on the fact that contracts are rolled over and over and over for no apparent reason other than the company who was currently contracted failed to do the job they were given because in order to get the job, they were forced to make a large number of false promises and now someone else making other false promises because they couldn't get the job if they answered honestly has taken over.

      No... the DOD has absolutely no idea what the hell is going on in the IT systems because they never hire anyone long enough to get a foothold. I was at an SAIC office not long ago which had over 200 desks and in most cases, those desks were filled by sub-sub-sub-contractors and most people had no idea what anyone did or even what company they worked for.

      If you think the DOD is bad, you should look at the State Department. I'm entirely convinced they simply let everyone walk through there unchecked.

      I think it really went all downhill with the introduction of the TSA which is basically nothing more than a way of keeping people off welfare and not calling it socialism. They have 1.2 million people in their Active Directory last I checked.... how many do you think are actually tracked and verified?

    27. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I want to know what "Door censors" are"

      It's another word for people who want only walls.

    28. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is the new marketing term for firewalls.
      Fire is dangerous, you know. Think of the children.
          And what does a wall have to do with it anyway? Also, the old name alludes to magic and devil worship. We have to clean up our language before we can clean up the economy.
      Didn't you get the memo?

    29. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Curlsman · · Score: 1

      For VAX/VMS, the current O/S developer provides support and is porting to X86: https://www.vmssoftware.com/se...

    30. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they have a huge stack of spare floppy disks (that they test regularly) or if someone is still manufacturing them for military use.

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    31. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      "They should install Kaspersky, then they'd be OK,"

      They should install Russian government spyware? Fantastic idea. We should put you in charge!

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    32. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The DoD, DoE, TSA, DHS, etc... are generally run by people completely lacking the ability to make decisions related to technology. This is not uncommon, hell, most of my company's customers are completely at the mercy of some slide shows and gartner reports.

      I joined DHS as a GS and I've seen first-hand what you stated. It's all too true. I'm here until I'm vested in TSP, then I'm out of this madhouse.

    33. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine a military run by the lowest bidder....

    34. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So you are saying compartmentalization works? I have a feeling one or two TLAs know exactly what is going on.

    35. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by tsqr · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they have a huge stack of spare floppy disks (that they test regularly) or if someone is still manufacturing them for military use.

      You can still buy 3-1/2" and 5-1/4" floppies on Amazon. 8", not so much.

    36. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by Bradac_55 · · Score: 1

      These are closed fiber dark networks with no internet connections. Regular reports are mandatory and happen every year /. just found a retarded civilian write-up and posted it.

    37. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by AlwinBarni · · Score: 1

      Can the world survive it becoming impossible to tell truth from fiction? The optimistic view is we will somehow get better at detecting the lies, perhaps using more AI. I'm needless to say skeptical.

      The world existed before invention of photographs and cameras and any recording devices, when all there was were human words and drawings, so I guess we'll adapt - as we always do, there'll be some chaos time though - as there always is. Unless, of course, this time there will not be enough wise people and thanks to our technology it would be the last humanity chaotic period.

    38. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

      The OLD 3.5' to 5.25' floppy disks. Lol, I remember those.

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    39. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Sperbels · · Score: 1

      Why shouldn't we trust Russia? The president said they're our friends now.

    40. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't the DOD know exactly what our missile defense system is running? Why did they need to generate a report for this?

      The DOD (and any organization for that matter) requires audit reports to confirm that what they know in inventory is actually true.

      Shit moves.

      Think data centers for instance. Routers move, get displaced, get fried, replaced, etc. You'll keep some type of inventory (hopefully tied to some sort of monitoring and procuring system), even if only manual. But every once in a while you need to double check that the list is sufficiently accurate to represent what you have.

      Same with software systems.

      So it is not surprising that the DOD generates such reports.

      What is surprising, no, what is depressing is the confirmation that their systems are shit as far as security updates are concerned.

    41. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no OS and it uses floppy disks.

    42. Re:Why would the DOD need a report? by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      So you are saying compartmentalization works? I have a feeling one or two TLAs know exactly what is going on.

      I doubt it. The US TLAs are notorious for the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. They should be connected, at least at the highest levels, but there's so much going on that by the time it filters up to a level where the agencies are comfortable with there being some sort of cross connect, it's too late. They're never comfortable until it hits the Director level, and there's too much going on for any one person to keep up with, even if that's all they did, and it isn't all they do.

      Even within a TLA they have this problem. They carry compartmentalization to such paranoid extremes that once again, everything is supposed to filter through one individual. By the time the Director sees it, it's all over and the Director's nominal "oversight" is nothing more than a rubber stamp. One of two stamps: APPROVE or DISAVOW.

      Because of excessive compartmentalization, in real time, no one knows what's going on.

    43. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does USB have to do with the post above your own?
      Anyhow there are a number of obsolete operating systems that get patched more or less just for the government.

    44. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus what a dumbfuck.
      Put a USB stick into your keyboard/mouse port and see what happens.
      Of course that assumes that there is a PS/2 plug on a Air Force Missile control console.

      Really? Or are you just stupid.

    45. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have plenty of security. These guys invented security. Just not the kind millennial nazis like

      You sound rather insecure in your convictions.

    46. Re: Why would the DOD need a report? by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Yeah, sorry, my bad. They should install Qihoo 360 Total Security.

  2. Missle codes set to all zeros 0000000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because nobody trusts all that safety crap to work consistently, and not break or interfere when you need it most.

    1. Re:Missle codes set to all zeros 0000000 by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      The funny part is how few people are going to believe you.

  3. "Door censors"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Captain - censors indicate the ____ of a _____ ______ on the _______."

    1. Re:"Door censors"? by ezzthetic · · Score: 1

      Think that should be "door sensors".

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    2. Re:"Door censors"? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Maybe, except the "open door" status has been censored.

  4. Does it still work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe it is time for a test shot to make sure it still works.

    1. Re:Does it still work? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Every US base is ready for "war".
      Any command that is given will be followed and the "missile" will work.
      The troops are tested to follow any correct command.
      Its just they have to keep doors open and know not to "fix" things as they don't get the support to fix everything.
      So a base is left in a state of poor repair but the skilled people on duty can run from room to room to get it all working when the command is given.
      The open doors help with the running part and that is vital to keep the US war ready.
      Do the mil know who the command was from and if it was correct?
      Paper work on base and the command the printer printed should be a perfect match of that day on duty.
      Then the big missile is launched as commanded.

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    2. Re:Does it still work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every US base is ready for "war".

      Any command that is given will be followed and the "missile" will work.

      The troops are tested to follow any correct command.

      Its just they have to keep doors open and know not to "fix" things as they don't get the support to fix everything.

      So a base is left in a state of poor repair but the skilled people on duty can run from room to room to get it all working when the command is given.

      The open doors help with the running part and that is vital to keep the US war ready.

      Do the mil know who the command was from and if it was correct?

      Paper work on base and the command the printer printed should be a perfect match of that day on duty.

      Then the big missile is launched as commanded.

      Bring it on you fucking Yankee cunt. The US wouldn't survive the launch of a single nuclear missile by any nation, but particularly itself.

    3. Re:Does it still work? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      AC re "The US wouldn't survive the launch of a single nuclear missile by any nation"
      The US can detect any and all "launch" attempts globally in real time.
      The only question politically is if the US still responds will all its nuclear missile systems on launch detection.
      Is the US mil now commanded to wait and see and then respond? Still commanded to launch fully on any other nations when they launch?

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  5. Equifax emploment pool?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is where equifax gets their best and brightest from

  6. Oblig xkcd by purplie · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:Oblig xkcd by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      +1... if it needs 2FA and AV then that means it is on the internet somewhere and they've already failed.

    2. Re: Oblig xkcd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2FA means a central authentication server is involved. Why would the military introduce another point of failure in a system like that? You don't have 2FA on guns...

    3. Re: Oblig xkcd by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      Another good point! Not much room for error on waiting for anti-ballistic missiles to fire.

    4. Re:Oblig xkcd by hey! · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily. Air gapped sysrtems can be attacked by parties with sufficient means -- state actors. Remember STUXNET? It was a joint American/Israeli attack on SCADA systems controlling Iranian uranium centrifuges. To get at those air-gapped PLCs, we infected the whole world.

      It's not enough to air gap a system, you have to air gap every system that prepares data and program updates for that system. Essentially you have to build up an entirely separate parallel cyber infrastructure that never has contact with the outside world either directly or indirectly.

      After you've done that, you need to make sure that every single person who comes in contact with the system is absolutely trustworthy, from the janitors up to the generals. Since that's basically impossible, you still need 2FA and AV.

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    5. Re:Oblig xkcd by Atryn · · Score: 1

      Yes, not in the summary, but 10.1 is probably "people are running around sticking USB drives into things". :) Air-gapped only goes so far.

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    6. Re:Oblig xkcd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2fa on ballistic missles is stupid. Do you really want to not be able to fire your missles if an EMP knocks out a few cell phone towers?
      I want 2 guy next to a land line with 2 keys which have to be turned simultaneously and then press a button - with no internet involvement at all.

      And while on the subject of antivirus, you speak of state actors capable of sneaking into air gapped facilities, but incapable of not being detected by McAfee? Seriously? Antiviruses are completely useless against the types of threats you are warning about, and some infecting a lone ICBM with run of the mill malware due to idiocy of the highest order, will at worst prevent that one missile from working - no big deal, the others will work just fine.

    7. Re:Oblig xkcd by zlives · · Score: 1

      "state actors capable of sneaking into air gapped facilities, but incapable of not being detected by McAfee"
      made my day LOL

    8. Re: Oblig xkcd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two factor authentication does not require an authentication server. It can, but it can also be done without an authentication server.

      Two factors could be a key and a password, with the password hashes being stored locally.

    9. Re:Oblig xkcd by hey! · · Score: 1

      That's not how 2FA necessarily works.

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  7. Why am I not surprised? by mikeiver1 · · Score: 1

    Our contractors and the military are running on 40-60 year old tech. They are incapable of fixing this and to scared that it will bring a portion of the national defense down for a time in the process so nothing will ever be done. That is until a rouge nation actually launches one of our nukes!

    1. Re:Why am I not surprised? by vtcodger · · Score: 2

      Yes, the military uses old technology. By design. They like their stuff to work. Reliably, Which it often does. It's hard to imagine a dumber idea than applying a mess of half baked "modern" technologies that routinely don't work to a problem quite different than that the ones that they don't solve. (Hint: Type "lists of data breaches" into your favorite search engine. **THAT** is what nifty modern technology buys you.)

      Suggested reading, for anyone who thinks the authors of this study have a point -- "Superiority" by Arthur C Clarke. https://www.freesfonline.de/au...

      Note that active military facilities typically have elaborate physical security measures including guys with guns in place and that the militaries of the world have been using encrypted communications since biblical times and relatively modern techniques for data protection about a century. On the whole, their approaches have a decent record except when someone inside leaks data or massive state level attacks are made on their technologies.

      Not that I'm a fan of spending billions to deploy Ballistic Missile Defense. Ever so long ago -- before most folks posting here were born -- I knew quite a lot about some aspects of the problem. It's an enormously difficult problem and I doubt that it's really been solved although it MIGHT -- and I emphasize MIGHT -- be able to intercept a single missile that doesn't deploy sophisticated countermeasures.

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    2. Re:Why am I not surprised? by chill · · Score: 1

      You'd have a point, except:

      (5) Server racks weren't locked. (6) Security cameras didn't cover the entire base. (7) Door censors showed doors closed when they were actually open. (8) Base personnel didn't challenge visitors on bases without proper badges, allowing access to secure areas.

      So much for the "elaborate physical security measures". This sounds like a recipe for a couple of college kids to sneak in and replace the EEPROMs in the laser targeting system.

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    3. Re: Why am I not surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least there's popcorn at the end.

    4. Re:Why am I not surprised? by balbeir · · Score: 1

      So much for the "elaborate physical security measures". This sounds like a recipe for a couple of college kids to sneak in and replace the EEPROMs in the laser targeting system.

      Nah, you would have to be a real genius for that

  8. No antivirus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why were they looking for antivirus? Did somebody decide to use a Microsoft OS for these systems, despite all the disclaimers that it's not fit for that purpose?

    1. Re:No antivirus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a distinct possibility, I've heard stories about patients almost getting killed by anti-virus being run on the, yep you guessed it, Windows based dialysis machine they were hooked up to.

      It's also entirely possible that the one who chose that word didn't have a clue what he/she was talking about and thought along the line "Something complicated, related to security.. Ah, ANTI-VIRUS!".

  9. Why? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    The people on the "base" need to be able to use the missile systems for "war" when commanded.
    The idea that such computers would be networked beyond mil secure networks is "strange".
    Space, sea, land tracking systems would send the data along secure networks to a secure base. The US mil "gets" encryption end to end.
    Inside that base the only needed service is to use the data to get a missile "war" ready. Everything connected to the base should be mil grade secure.

    What happened?
    US staff are now allowed to bring "entertaining" consumer devices to "work" so they feel like staying in the US mil for longer?
    The reasons why the rest of the base functions are not working is simple:
    The base has to work and people on base need to move around and the computers used are ready for war use.
    That needs internal open doors as everyone on base is "trusted" and have to move around to keep the "war" aspect of a US base ready.
    The fix would be to bring in a staff of contractors under the "buddy" system to go over every system and get everything working as the US mil expects.

    The problem the US has it has too few smart staff to now fix everything globally and under the buddy system rules.
    The US mil has to let everything be war ready and not do expected mil repairs due to lack of trusted US contractors globally.

    Good new your base is still ready for war.
    The bad news is the buddy system is using 2X the trusted staff to watch over each other. Good for US security but the amount of staff needed is limiting give all the mil site the US has globally.
    Follow the UK Navy idea and use one contractor/mil person to do the work? The US trusted the buddy system. Bad for security in the UK but the work is done.
    The next person can be trusted to notice and report sabotaged/stolen equipment?
    Find more people with the IQ and security background? The US mil cant teach IQ so it has to work with the skills it can attract.
    Too few people are fit, smart, trustworthy and will work for a low wage in a distant US base.
    The fit, smart, people go to special forces. The smart, trustworthy people end up in the NSA, CIA, and all the other agencies.
    Good wages, wars and nice locations globally to work in.

    Bring in more random contractors who don't pass security interviews?
    They are mil and political not trusted due to their education level, faith, backgrounds, drug use, criminal friendships, lifestyles, gambling... have health issues.
    Their backgrounds show they want spy for cash/faith/ have split loyalty.

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    1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is your native language?

    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been wondering the same thing.

  10. "Door censors showed doors" by Ashthon · · Score: 5, Funny

    They need to do a better job of censoring the doors. We don't need to see that filth!

    1. Re:"Door censors showed doors" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, Jim Morrison was the definition of 'progressive' back when these bases were built.

  11. Maybe Kaspersky antivirus. by wolfheart111 · · Score: 1

    Heard its good. :)

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    1. Re:Maybe Kaspersky antivirus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/16/putin-trump-win-election-2016-722486

  12. a further realization of the cold war. by nimbius · · Score: 2

    The crumbling infrastructure of cold-war politics surely comes as a surprise to no one. the USSR's incentives for building infrastructure and defense were much more resilient and sustainable based on the charter of the government they were building as a reflection of the society itself.
    ,br> The US on the other hand only had one drive: just beat the USSR. It doesnt matter if your space program is run on nickels and dimes in 30 years, or your superhighways and bridges crumble without any meaningful maintenance or even a thought of repair, just so long as what you make now continues to promote the image that the US does it better. So here it is, our sterling testament to the defense of american freedom. At the time it was a pinnacle because it had to be. Now the doors are all ajar and the computers are run by idiots.

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    1. Re:a further realization of the cold war. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The crumbling infrastructure in post-cold war Russia is a thing of legend. In the US its about lack of security. In the USSR it's about decaying piles of radioactive material contaminating the groundwater.

      Also, Chernobyl. Kursk. Lake Aral... the list goes on.

    2. Re:a further realization of the cold war. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the best way to weaken the US is to not give them an enemy?

    3. Re:a further realization of the cold war. by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      So the best way to weaken the US is to not give them an enemy?

      Precisely.

      From the mouths of anonymous cowards may fall the most profound insights. But boy is shoveling through the muck to find them a lot of work...

    4. Re:a further realization of the cold war. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it wasn't about better back then - it was merely about who would bankrupt the other faster... the US won.

  13. Most alarming discovery: by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Interesting

    (10) Data stored on USB thumb drives was not encrypted.

    I'm not alarmed that it's not encrypted, I'm alarmed that they are using USB FLASH drives. If you are unaware, all of theses have MCUs and almost all of them use an 8051 CPU with re-programmable FLASH memory which makes them their own little computers that someone can hijack. It's also the attack vector used by Stuxnet to infiltrate an air-gapped network in Iran.

    The other things have obvious fixes but unless they are using USB devices specifically made so that they cannot be reprogrammed (one-time programmable MCUs) then there is a serious security issue here. I honestly hope that government would manufacture their own USB FLASH drives but the fact that I haven't read about it doesn't inspire hope.

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    1. Re:Most alarming discovery: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      USB devices specifically made so that they cannot be reprogrammed

      Does anyone sell such a thing? Surely there is a market for it.

      Personally, I use the ATP nanodura industrial rated flash drives, primarily for the temperature rating and lifetime writes. I don't store much data, so 1GB is enough for me, and it doesn't break the bank.

    2. Re:Most alarming discovery: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, they used to use floppy discs to avoid those issues.

      But then some moron (maroon?) complained that the DoD was still using Floppy discs when they ought to be using things that could be compromized instead.

      In short, y'all apparently got your just deserts ....

    3. Re:Most alarming discovery: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Security architect here. Flash drives are a big meh if nothing sensitive is stored on them, are not used on critical systems, and mitigating software is in place.

      The alternatives aren't good. Give people a network share and that comes with its own vulnerabilities on top of user training, support, and most of the threats USB drives have. Deny and users will do their damnedest to sneak something in. The only real threats left are data exfiltration and malicious software. Both ought to be defended against regardless of removable media policy.

    4. Re:Most alarming discovery: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF? you do realise one of the most common attack vectors prior to USB's was through floppy disks. Their were even incidents of new floppy disks shipping with virus's on them that they had picked up through the testing in the manufacturer.

    5. Re:Most alarming discovery: by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      tbh they are probably better off without antivirus, though

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    6. Re:Most alarming discovery: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would be very surprised if the electronics and the equipment necessary to satisfy the Permissive Action Link supported USB or any other standard hardware. It's most likely both antique, since many of these weapons date back to the 1980s or earlier, and custom made for purpose. Ideally a system of this kind would be solid state circuits, resistant to tampering and hardwired to perform their functions in an interlocking fashion with any operator inputs made via manual electric switches built into the device. It makes zero sense for a programmable computer to be any part of this system.

    7. Re:Most alarming discovery: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're an ignorant idiot spouting years old facts without any understanding nor comprehension.

      Please remove yourself and any offspring, as well as living relatives from the gene pool.

      Thank you.

      captcha='atomic'

    8. Re:Most alarming discovery: by internerdj · · Score: 1

      Our lab banned them because of security. I've had stacks of CDRWs that don't read or write but need to be properly destroyed. We were then allowed ESATA devices but our latest generation of PCs no longer included ESATA ports. USB or networking is the industry standard so sooner or later you just have to live with the drawbacks. Only one of those works with an air gapped machine.

    9. Re:Most alarming discovery: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. And just look at the cure that is worse than the disease. CDRWs, as well loved as they were by techies, aren't by everyone else. ESATA is a worse security threat than off-the-shelf USB sticks. There's more exploits available due to the security research component firmware boom and manufacturers not giving a shit.

      Security is hard. It's about mitigating your actual risks with the resources you have and accepting anything you can't, planning for what to do when it happens. It's not this bulletproof end state filled with pre-approved buzzwords and products for every situation. Sometimes an antivirus is inappropriate. Often disallowing users to do what they need to do with what they know is the worst security vulnerability one could feasibly create.

  14. They're runnibg ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... unpatched Windows XP.

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    1. Re:They're runnibg ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which works today as it did yesterday and so it will tomorrow, for all values of today ...

    2. Re:They're runnibg ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As long as they have base-wide access for emergency cowboy hats, running patch-free Windows XP is a totally cool thing to do. Patch-free, as in freedom.

    3. Re:They're runnibg ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      If they don't have patches, how will anyone know the branch of military, you insensitive clod?

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    4. Re:They're runnibg ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everybody knows that those are henna tattooed just under the edge of the kilt, on the blue skin. "Made you look, sir/mam." I know, insensitive.

  15. I hope they are using 40 year old tech by aberglas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Some very crude 8086 CPU with 16K of RAM is incapable of supporting viruses. And even though the code might be bad, it is small enough that someone understood it. And minimal communication with external world, 40 years ago is pre internet for most things.

    The problem starts when they upgrade to modern operating systems. And control it all from Windows desktops. Nobody really understands how they work. Everything is interconnected. And it is only a matter of time before some nasty manages to remotely press "the button".

    1. Re:I hope they are using 40 year old tech by vtcodger · · Score: 1

      I agree with you. Windows 3 or 95 might be simple enough to be safe and securable. But modern Windows Systems operate more or less by magic. OTOH, I think (hope) that modern Windows systems are confined to administrative systems -- how many unused days of leave does Sgt Jones have?, how many spare tires are in the motor pool? -- and aren't used for combat systems.

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    2. Re: I hope they are using 40 year old tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really not. Windows 3 and 95 are about the least secure point in the timeline: they make it easy to run multiple things at once without having any concept of privelege or isolation--everything "runs as root".

      To be more secure on consumer systems you need to go before that, to systems designed to only run one piece of code, or after, to systems with actual security.

      But it makes a lot more sense to sidestep off the consumer tree to something built with security in mind. A single purpose embedded system for military use ought to be exactly that.

      The worry is that the systems might not account for modern threats. In some cases that's nonsense; you can't run a branch prediction attack against a CPU with no branch prediction. In other cases it's very real: outdated crypto is worthless.

      The list in the summary ... of course I didn't read TFA ... leaves a lot of room for guesswork as to which could lead to disaster, if any. My guess would be that of there was anything really bad it would have been exploited by now. So, not going to lose sleep over it.

    3. Re:I hope they are using 40 year old tech by dyfet · · Score: 1

      And lest not forget jovial....

    4. Re:I hope they are using 40 year old tech by The123king · · Score: 3, Informative

      Will people stop thinking it's PC's. The military run PDP11's and VAXen. There's not an 8086 anywhere near, and the only intel chips are RAM chips

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    5. Re:I hope they are using 40 year old tech by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      "Some very crude 8086 CPU with 16K of RAM is incapable of supporting viruses."

      Speaking as someone who was there and actually used those computers as my primary desktop for some years (my first PC was an IBM 5150), you are talking out your asshole. We had viruses back then - the first known PC virus dates from 1986.

      "And even though the code might be bad, it is small enough that someone understood it."

      Yes, assuming you had someone on staff who knew assembler and could operate a disassembler. Virus authors don't mail you the source code.

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    6. Re:I hope they are using 40 year old tech by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      "Will people stop thinking it's PC's."

      Sure, just as soon as the military stops using Windows in critical systems. Perhaps you never heard of windows for warships? Sure, some of these systems may predate Windows entirely, but others do not and the US military has demonstrated a clear willingness to deploy windows in places where it not only makes no sense, but also compromises both security and reliability.

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    7. Re:I hope they are using 40 year old tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you goons think saying "VAXen" makes you sound cool? It most assuredly does not.

    8. Re:I hope they are using 40 year old tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never had no viruses back then.

      But then I never just put any old floppy into my computer and execute it. And if I did, I could just remove that floppy, reboot, and any virus it had was gone for good.

      One hopes that the military has the (assembler) source and a few greybeards that can read it.

      And I doubt you ever had a computer with 16K. Maybe 640K? 16K computers do not have hard drives. They do not run GUIs or Windows or even MSDOS. They are very simple, do one thing only.

  16. Re:Now How Would by wolfheart111 · · Score: 1

    You know that...

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  17. Air gap securing networks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Friendly reminder that this method is not a security mechanism. This is why you dont let bureaucrats run things.

    1. Re: Air gap securing networks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, guys with guns seem to do a pretty good job of making an air gap perform beautifully well.

  18. Whoosh ... by OzPeter · · Score: 2

    Think that should be "door sensors".

    Look! Up in the Sky! Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's a joke .. flying right over the top of you!

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    1. Re:Whoosh ... by Memnos · · Score: 1

      That, or an ABM that went off course.

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  19. Who needs all of that when you have MISSILES? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should be deterrent enough, right?

  20. WRONG. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WRONG. "DOD IG officials inspected five random locations where the Missile Defense Agency (MDA) had placed ballistic missiles part of the Ballistic Missile Defense System (BMDS) -- a DOD program developed to protect U.S. territories by launching ballistic missiles to intercept enemy nuclear rockets."

    1. Re: WRONG. by c6gunner · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Whoever wrote that is just clueless. The Ballistic Missile Defense System is a system which protects against ballistic missiles, not one which fires ballistic missiles.

    2. Re: WRONG. by XXongo · · Score: 0
      It's a question of choice of terminology.

      The BMDO missiles in question are not intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs); nor even intermediate range ballistic missiles (IRBM).

      "ballistic missile" is usually shorthand for ICBM.

  21. Last I'd heard, they were using floppies by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    and real 5.25 inch floppies (not the newfangled 3.5 inch ones)... formatted for CP/M. This was in a report I saw about 10 years ago. Even 10 years ago, this setup was deemed so obsolete that it was thought to be good security... there was no virus on earth being written for such an ancient system. And of course internet connection was out of the question.

    1. Re:Last I'd heard, they were using floppies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since then they got a student to write BSc thesis re-implementing the whole thing as a Joomla plugin.

    2. Re:Last I'd heard, they were using floppies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Your attempt at geek cred was solid, but they were 8 inch disks.

    3. Re:Last I'd heard, they were using floppies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "real 5.25 inch floppies"?

      Forget your newfangled 5.25 inch floppies. They'll be using single-sided single-density 40-track EIGHT INCH floppies. Yes, a whole 100KB per floppy.

      (However, you could stick 'em to the side of a filing cabinet with a magnet safely if you put the magnet in the middle )

  22. Not clear whch systems by joe_frisch · · Score: 1

    If these problems apply to payroll and purchasing systems, then its a problem that should be fixed. If they apply to actually missile systems, then of course its a whole different kettle of fish.

    I hope and assume any missile systems or classified systems are air-gapped, and things like 2-factor authentication and anti-virus do not apply. Security is guys with guns who shoot anyone who crosses the air-gap without authorization.

    I also hope that any report on vulnerabilities of missile systems would be classified.

  23. U.S. has 800 badly managed military facilities. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In fact, the "Defense" of the U.S. is very, very badly managed. Highly qualified people don't want to work helping the military kill people and destroy property.

    Where in the World Is the U.S. Military? Quoting:

    "Despite recently closing hundreds of bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad -- from giant "Little Americas" to small radar facilities. Britain, France and Russia, by contrast, have about 30 foreign bases combined."

  24. Re:Why would the DOyou're D need a report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    you're not totally wrong.

    But the Paul Ryan shutdowns have wreaked havok on program budgets over the past 10 years, and yeah, that led to a LOT of chaos and turnover in these kinds of programs. I'm not at all s yearurprised there's a problem like this. Doing security RIGHT: in the context of a DoD framework like RMF, is very expensive. And just as you get a team that understands one process, it gets changed. And the requirements are laden with REALLY fucking expensive software licenses. WHich is an additional financial drain. You add to that - a product lifecycle that is expected to last decades: you won't really find a closed-source commercial solution that has that kind of longevity without some marketing goon on a rebranding spree, coming along and obsoleting one crucial part of the stack, and forcing significant rework.

    But no: a lot of us who work (or have worked ) in that space, LOVE the work, and love the people they work with - it's filled with a lot of exciting challenges and problem solving, and it does pay well - except that it's hard to find a program that doesn't force you to relocate every 5 years.

  25. and the password by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is password
    or whatever the default was when they installed it

    1. Re:and the password by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it was

      one two three four five

      the same as i have on my suitcase.

      caption : 'stress'

  26. And most importantly... by theendlessnow · · Score: 1

    The all run Windows 1.0 because "it's cool".

    /. where smarticles come to die.

  27. Summary Appears Broken by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not sure where the article summary got their list of findings. The report mentions USB *once*, and that's in a reference to a NIST glossary for removable media.

    Whomever summarized the summary appeared to not understand the report and added their own color and errors to it.

    "USB Thumb Drives" seems to be fabricated from the submitter reading "removable media"

    The ZDNet article is also guilty of this. E.g.,

    "DOD IG officials also discovered that at one MDA location, IT administrators failed to install an intrusion detection and prevention system --also known as an antivirus or security product.

    No. Just no.

    The report looks interesting though, far more nuanced.

    1. Re:Summary Appears Broken by dyfet · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I believe really we are talking about 5.25 and 8 inch floppy disks. Maybe mag tape, too. A lot of this stuff was classic dec.

    2. Re:Summary Appears Broken by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

      It would make for an interesting pentest, litter the parking lot with 5.25 and 8 inch floppies labeled "hangman", "death valley", "ascii art" or even just "STUXNET2.COM".

    3. Re:Summary Appears Broken by bradley13 · · Score: 1

      This. This technology is more than 30 years old. It is air-gapped, meaning that the primary security barrier is physical - it is invulnerable to any sort of ordinary hacking. Anti-virus makes zero sense. "Removable media" may well refer to floppy disks.

      The IG report does identify a number of problems, but mitigating these problems on ancient technology is non-trivial, and may not even be possible. For example, the processors involved may not even be capable of encrypting data to modern standards, in any sort of reasonable time.

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    4. Re: Summary Appears Broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Welcome to Slashdot 2018, where the summaries are factually incorrect and the mod points count for nothing.

  28. Re: U.S. has 800 badly managed military facilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This isn't something a grunt can install linux on and start improving. So nothing ever gets done. Management 101.

  29. Metal Gear Solid was hard mode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (6) Security cameras didn't cover the entire base. (7) Door censors showed doors closed when they were actually open. (8) Base personnel didn't challenge visitors on bases without proper badges, allowing access to secure areas.

  30. Nah... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    The all run Windows 1.0 because "it's cool".

    Nah... It’s MS-DOS 4.3 and TopView.

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    1. Re:Nah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 1990 it would have been MS-DOS 3.3 and Windows 3.0 - if true then we are lucky to be alive. I really doubt that the systems were based on MS operating systems. They were most likely a variant of UNIX - not Linux - which was released in 1992.
      USB was released in 1996.
      Floppies were around, CD's were damn expensive too.

    2. Re:Nah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not privy to what the US missile system uses, but I do know that some old AA systems ran on SCO UNIX.

    3. Re:Nah... by The123king · · Score: 1

      Nah, it's DEC VAX's

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  31. peace cost millions of dollars per day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... the cyber-security failings described in a security audit ...

    Despite the obvious reality of a missile base having a lifespan of multiple decades, the Pentagon is more interested in buying new smart-bombs: It increases profits for their civilian buddies and decreases collateral damage for their military buddies. Such a policy means building better ways of killing makes peace cost millions of dollars per day and war, cheap.

  32. Hardly any news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that system was designed in the 1960'ies or 1070'ies and was designed to run in an highly isolated environment and is not an off-the-shelf system.
    That's far better than warships running on ME or XP.

  33. Gomer's Pile by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    We used to have MAD: Mutually Assured Destruction to each scare the other side into not starting a war. Now we have Mutually Assured Hacking, which means nobody will know what shit will actually work. Maybe we should keep some pre-digital weapons around in case.

  34. Ob S.S.D.D by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    000000

    Caveats:
      - The next page of the thread, dealing with bypassing two-factor authentication, is two "next"s forward.
      - Poisoned Minds / S.S.D.D. is generally N.S.F.W. (Including the next few pages after the one linked.)

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    1. Re:Ob S.S.D.D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      000000

      Caveats:

        - The next page of the thread, dealing with bypassing two-factor authentication, is two "next"s forward.

        - Poisoned Minds / S.S.D.D. is generally N.S.F.W. (Including the next few pages after the one linked.)

      This looks like some lame furry shit, but a very brief perusal didn't reveal it to be obviously Nazi lame furry shit, so carry on with my blessings I guess?

  35. It's called physical security by technosaurus · · Score: 1

    The systems are so old, you need to physically get a person in there with punch cards... or a template, one hole punch, scissors and some plastic.

  36. We could shut them all down by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    We don't have to sing kom by yah, just shut them all down and we'll never speak of it again.

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  37. It's a good thing.... by craighansen · · Score: 1

    (Sarcasm intended.) It's a good thing that these problems were found in defensive systems, thus ensuring that Mutually Assured Destruction can continue to be our world security policy.

    Even though this security audit found numerous problems, surely none of this kind of stuff is going on in our country's offensive ballistic missile systems. ...and it's not as if we have a President that goes around goading other country's rulers to lob a nuclear missile or few in our direction, so we have nothing to really worry about.

    On North Korea, it's clear that we have a very decisive and insightful President who is doing a great job staying on top of their development of new sites for launching nuclear weapons: "Maybe they are. Maybe they’re not. I don’t believe that. I don’t. And, you know, could. And which is — if it — if that’s the way it goes, that’s the way it goes. You know, I go with the way we have to go," [ Trump interview on Fox News with Chris Wallace, November 2018 https://www.foxnews.com/transc... ]

    Besides, these defensive systems already fail about 20% of the time on carefully structured tests where everything is tuned up and the brass is watching, so we already knew we couldn't depend on them. https://www.mda.mil/global/doc...

  38. The sort of thing that probly shouldn't be co... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I keep hearing that net-connected infrastructure was infiltruded upon. In virtually every instance, these were places, such as military/gubmint and utilities that always have humans onsite. Humans in control, but apparently not controlling. Yes, power plants have to control their frequency, but they're connected directly to the grid, so why the net conx? We used to do that stuff well enough before we had the Intertubes.
        Is the way we're doing this sort of thing today any better, given that almost daily we read of new intrusions, often on stuff we really don't want dirty fingers in?

  39. maybe not...dont be so sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    (8) Base personnel didn't challenge visitors on bases without proper badges, allowing access to secure areas.

  40. So close, yet so far away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A 8086 can support viruses just fine. Not the modern windows-requiring crap, true. But back in the day there were plenty of viruses for DOS, too. A couple hundred bytes is all some of them need.

    The real question is why they presume they need "anti-virus". If the controller is an embedded non-x86 CPU with an embedded OS in ROM, good luck getting viruses to take hold. Or even, say, a PARISC workstation with HP-UX on it. Or an alpha running vms. There's probably plenty of holes in it --not running everything as root is a decent start-- but very few adversaries even have the hardware to test their viruses on.

    Apparently the DoD, and you too, have wintendo-only minds. Brain-rot, is what it is.

    1. Re:So close, yet so far away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, your antivirus needs regular updates of its files. They need to be loaded via USBs from that windows machine on the internet. The virus update files could be malicious, so you need an anti virus tool to scan them.

    2. Re:So close, yet so far away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And why would you not run that scan on the computer you're writing the flash drive with? But as said above, That system pre-dates USB.

      --Highdude702

  41. Maybe AI Could Help by Crashmarik · · Score: 2

    A massively parallel and distributed system to scan the system for viruses and security flaws and proactively take actions to safeguard the system.
    If it were satellite based we called it network in the sky or maybe some other sort of acronym

  42. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  43. And... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

    most importantly, they run windows 10.

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  44. Speaking of antiviruses by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 1

    no antivirus programs

    Let's not talk about attack vectors: AVs are known to introduce huge glaring vulnerabilities which allow kernel level access to the system.

    For such military systems Internet access must be disabled completely; such PCs must be configured such a way, the user cannot run any applications other the preconfigured ones (via security policies). All the scripting features must be locked down completely, i.e. no Microsoft Office, no VBS, no PowerShell, etc. etc. etc. USB flash drives support must be disabled as well. No BIOS access as well. No access to the actual hardware (i.e. PCs must be enclosed and only a mouse/keyboard/monitor must be accessible). That's the least they could do.

    1. Re:Speaking of antiviruses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You failed at "PC"

    2. Re:Speaking of antiviruses by Zorpheus · · Score: 1

      Yes, sounds like a joke if they want to install antivirus on it. Funny enough that this means they run Windows. It would also mean that they need to regularly install new virus signatures.
      What would signatures of known viruses be good for anyway? Their enemy is a bit more capable than script kiddies. They will certainly put the effort in to write a new virus to shut down missiles.

  45. Well, it *was* all zeroes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The sad part is that blackeyers ignore the crap out of reality and rewrite history, to keep their delusion of no bad shit going on.

    Of course his "because" is wrong. But so is yours.

  46. STIG by d3bruts1d · · Score: 1

    So much for those wonderful STIGs that everyone else has to suffer through.

    1. Re:STIG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're blaming the guidance and not who failed to follow it? Get back to work and finish stigging that server.

  47. it's just to blame the children who hack in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and ask for millions in 'damages' and put them in jail for 300 years because your troops are either poorly trained or to badly led to do the job correctly.

  48. not taken seriously by sad_ · · Score: 1

    if security can't even be taken seriously at a missile launch site, how can you expect it from some company producing $15 webcams or other insane cheap IoT devices?

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  49. Missile System runs on Microsoft Windows o] by najajomo · · Score: 1

    Just who in their right mind runs a Ballistic Missile System bas on Microsoft Windows o]

    1. Re:Missile System runs on Microsoft Windows o] by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      The same people that run their warships on Windows.

  50. You can understand why by petes_PoV · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Old software that isn't patched has some advantages. You know that what you are running is what was tested.

    Also, how would a missile based explain that it hadn't fired its missiles because the software had received a pushed update and was too busy applying it. And that it was more important to fix a bug in a foreign font than to unleash a nuclear holocaust.

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  51. Audit - "does this apply in any way"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In this situation, physical security is everything.

    2FA? Two specially trained people have to both use their keys concurrently. The keys are far enough apart that a single person cannot physically turn them. Plus, they have to get inside to launch complex. 1 new guy might be able to get inside, but not two.

    Auditors did their job but there isn't a checkbox for "does this apply in any way"?
    Hint: no.

    These computers are specialized. Not general purpose. They run a specialized system, not sure I'd even call it an OS.

    1. Re:Audit - "does this apply in any way"? by PPH · · Score: 1

      Plus, they have to get inside to launch complex.

      (6) Security cameras didn't cover the entire base.
      (8) Base personnel didn't challenge visitors on bases without proper badges, allowing access to secure areas.

      Ooops.

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    2. Re:Audit - "does this apply in any way"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also when you accidentally walk to the entrance while looking for the office building next door, people entering the building insist on holding the door open for you because they think you wanted to enter.

  52. no multi-factor authentication mechanisms? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The Headline says "no multi-factor authentication mechanisms"

    The summary says "The Multi-factor authentication wasn't used consistently". So they did have MFA, it just wasn't implemented on a consistent basis. Could mean a bunch of things, but also could mean that MFA was implemented and doing the job, but just wasn't consistently implemented to the same standards at every installation.

  53. Not important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The vendor didn't want to do it so it wasn't important. That's how every government contract I've ever seen has worked.

  54. re: war games .. pencil password? by AndrewFlagg · · Score: 1

    oh the days of the pencil as a password are still with us. ;-) dialup 300 baud still works.

  55. Plain text security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People forget that plain text _is_ secure- full transparency == no place to hide unlike encryption

  56. USsizens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember getting my Drivers's License in US using my foreing passport, some years ago.

    In Place Of Birth they put "OH" (Ohio).

    Then people wonder how a bunch of crazies created 9/11...America is so full of flaws, people.

  57. We, in fact.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are all doomed. So it not just the Orange Infant Commander-in-the-Chief that that is that problems.

  58. OP article language is incorrect. by FredThompson · · Score: 1

    The ZDNet article states, "where the Missile Defense Agency (MDA) had placed ballistic missiles part of the Ballistic Missile Defense System (BMDS)," which led to a lot of mistakes in this thread.

    That is both factually and grammatically incorrect.

    Here, I fixed it for the author; "where the Missile Defence Agency (MDA) had place ANTI-ballistic missiles AS part of the ..."

    Ballistic missiles are ICBMs and SLBMs. They deliver nuclear warheads to targets.

    ANTI-ballistic missiles are to destroy incoming ballistic missiles.

    Those are two VERY different things.

    The articles is about ANTI-ballistic missiles.

    FWIW, I was an ICBM Launch Officer and worked on design of control systems during the Clinton era. In my time, this had many, many, layers of physical security, encryption, information separation, and so on which resulted in the equivalent of multi-factor security for physical and information access and communication. I do NOT have knowledge of current systems. However, most likely the basic design philosophy of ballistic missile access control has not changed much.

  59. Good to read stories by "the experts" by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 1

    He wrote this entire article about the Missile *Defense* Agency, and can't figure out the difference between a ballistic missile and an ANTI-ballistic missile.

  60. Re:Now How Would by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    Because I'm a retired IT guy. Also, I'm running Windows XP, but it's patching itself.

    Registry Hack: Get Windows XP Security Updates until 2019

    It thinks it's an ATM machine or other embedded OS.

    ATM security still running Windows XP
    Anthony Spadafora
    15/11/2018

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  61. No Antivirus Needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No Antivirus is needed since nobody knows how to write viruses for a VAX.

  62. Userfault 1 by Mats+Svensson · · Score: 1

    Also, there should be some kind of CAPTCHA or brainteaser you have to solve before you can order a launch.
    I could be something simple, like putting a square peg in a square hole, or spell your way trough a whole tweet.

  63. Not quite right by aepervius · · Score: 1

    Such a machine is well able to support an ASM virus, just not any modern giant stuff. You can have a contaminate and hook code very easily. As a matter of fact just to learn how to fight the stuff 20 years ago I did my own version of the pong virus from scratch, which also tried to determinate if there was a drive it could write to - it was only using hardware interrupt, 10h, 13h, and 08h/1ch for the "timer", and 03h to detect if somebody was monkeying. Deleted it once I was satisfied. I do not recall the exact size but it was lower than 1kb.

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