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iPhone Owners Irate After iOS Update Bricks Cellular Data (tomsguide.com)

According to several reports, iPhone users around the world who have upgraded to the latest version of iOS are finding that it cuts off mobile data services. From a report: One Twitter user @kevbruh says that "Apple update 12.1.1, I had no cellular data. I tried inserting my SIM card again, hard resetting my device, and tried resetting the network settings. Nothing happened and the problem persists." In addition to North America, similar issues are being reported in South America, Europe and Asia. Other iPhone owners are reporting that they can't make or receive calls and others are saying that they can't text or receive texts. [...] Many more iPhone users have come forward on Twitter claiming that they are having connectivity issues related to iOS 12.1.2. Apple is advising some to try to update their carrier settings using this guide.

154 comments

  1. Thimk Different by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Merry Xmas from all of us at Apple.

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    1. Re:Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Merry Xmas

      It's spelled Christmas.

    2. Re:Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Keep Christ in Christmas

      Merry Christmas, brah

    3. Re:Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Merry Xmas from all of us at Apple.

      Apple : It JUST works (when it does lol).

    4. Re:Thimk Different by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "It Just Works"

      (unless it doesn't and then it's just like every other shitty, craptastically-overpriced gadget.)

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    5. Re:Thimk Different by I75BJC · · Score: 1

      I had NO problems with my iPhone 6 Plus with iOS 12.1.1 or 12.1.2. Not to say all the iOS updates have been without problems but no loss of anything when my carrier's network was available.

    6. Re:Thimk Different by msauve · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "I had NO problems with my iPhone 6 Plus with iOS 12.1.1 or 12.1.2."

      Apparently, that makes you special.

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    7. Re: Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apples plan to force iMessage and FaceTime on all iPhone users.

    8. Re: Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

    9. Re: Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obscenity is the product of a small mind.

    10. Re: Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are the product of a tiny penis

    11. Re: Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People who think Jesus spoke American and wouldn't know a chi rho monogram if they went to a church...

    12. Re:Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's always funny when people who obviously don't have a clue what they are talking about go to correct someone who does.

      Learn first, THEN post.

    13. Re: Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither is undocumented reports from "several users" of unknown natures. But, hey, let's choose who we believe not on evidence but on how we feel about a company. Right?

      You got your daily two-minute hate. Now just be happy like the rest of the sheep that you claim not to be one of. Double plus good.

    14. Re:Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It Just Works"

      (unless it doesn't and then it's just like every other shitty, craptastically-overpriced gadget.)

      Let's take a moment and ponder all of the times Apple has broken their device and yet the fans are OK with it. Ahhhhhh, may I have another.

    15. Re:Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Merry Xmas from all of us at Apple.

      C'mon Mods: +5 Informative?!?

      Slashdot is dead.

    16. Re:Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had NO problems with my iPhone 6 Plus with iOS 12.1.1 or 12.1.2.
      Not to say all the iOS updates have been without problems but no loss of anything when my carrier's network was available.

      I report the same non-problem with my 6 Plus.

    17. Re:Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I had NO problems with my iPhone 6 Plus with iOS 12.1.1 or 12.1.2."

      Apparently, that makes you special.

      Actually, I'd say that makes his experience "typical".

    18. Re:Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They gave opportunity for their customers being good iDiots and buy a new iPhone. Praise the all mighty Apple.

      Typical Slashtard: All the Apple Hate in the world, but doesn't even know how to spell "Almighty".

      CAPTCHA: Pattern

    19. Re: Thimk Different by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      Sounds like classic Slashdot to me

    20. Re:Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awwwwww please dont melt, special little apple worshipping snowflake

    21. Re:Thimk Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I had NO problems with my iPhone 6 Plus with iOS 12.1.1 or 12.1.2." Apparently, that makes you special.

      Actually, no it doesn't. Most people didn't have problems. A few had. Well, a lot had, but most of them don't even own an iPhone, yet they have the need to tell others how terrible the problem is. Which is their problem.

  2. "Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Oh, you mean "breaks".

    JHMFC.

    1. Re: "Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      The cellular data feature is bricked because resetting doesn't work. That is what bricked means. That the device or feature is not just broken but completely non-functional and not user repairable.

  3. Re:"Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Came here to post this.

  4. Re:"Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you know that msmash is a brick dancer? It's quite a sight to behold.

  5. Oh Apple by bobstreo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    your update quality control seems to be approaching Microsoft levels.

    If Jobs was still around, there would be no Christmas for any employees until this was fixed, and there would probably be some people thrown out of windows as part of their separation package.

    1. Re:Oh Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      your update quality control seems to be approaching Microsoft levels.

      If Jobs was still around, there would be no Christmas for any employees until this was fixed, and there would probably be some people thrown out of windows as part of their separation package.

      I'm all for Apple bashing, but @kevbruh and "several reports from around the world", really?

    2. Re:Oh Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      there would probably be some people thrown out of iOS as part of their separation package.

      FTFY.

    3. Re:Oh Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're confusing Jobs with Ballmer and employee quality control with chairs.

    4. Re:Oh Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, as bad as Balmer was he was nothing compared to the belligerent bastard that was Jobs.

    5. Re: Oh Apple by illiac_1962 · · Score: 1

      It just works! No, wait, you are holding wrong. Stupid users.

    6. Re:Oh Apple by antdude · · Score: 1

      Apple should hire me since I am very stubborn, picky, etc. like with QA. Companies don't care and want to hire about QA too. :(

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      Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
    7. Re:Oh Apple by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      The summary mentions users having problems on two different updates. So one of them didn't happen at Christmas and was fixed with the release of the next update.

    8. Re: Oh Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Whatever. Both Ballmer and Jobs maintained something resembling a standard of quality, as opposed to the nitwits running their respective companies today.

    9. Re: Oh Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      both had high standards, though Jobs was the one that was a real cunt about it. You could get fired for looking at him the wrong way, the only person that mattered in Jobs mind was Jobs.

    10. Re: Oh Apple by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      have you seen his house lately? Neither has he... all that money and power, still dead and I bet his family barely knew him. Maybe he was happy, but I doubt it bought him much happiness.

    11. Re: Oh Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're spot on. I miss him so much. Er, no that's not right.... Oh yeah, I'm glad he's dead.

    12. Re:Oh Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Jobs was still around I'd would be wishing he was dead. But, since he's dead, I don't have to wish that anymore. I'm glad he's dead. It allows me to spend holidays not thinking about him and since a portion of my heart is no longer filled with hate, there is more room for love.

      Merry Christmas to All! I am glad Steve Jobs is dead.

      I bet he died like a little bitch.. All whining and crying 'cause he didn't want to meet Satan.....

    13. Re: Oh Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ironically he is also dead as he was a dumb cunt that didn't listen to doctors and instead believed the bullshit peddled by homeopathy. Probably the one good thing he ever did in his existence was help to highlight just how dangerous listening to those idiots that peddle that BS really is.

    14. Re:Oh Apple by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Jobs was far from the master of design and QA management that people keep trying to make him out to be these days. Yes, he was better than most and got more from his organization than many others, but he still had his travesties of customer support and design decisions:

      "You're holding it wrong"
      Denying the cracks in the G4 cube case forever as lines left over from the injection mold process, when they would show up after the product was being used
      Releasing Final Cut Pro X when it couldn't even talk to Final Cut Server, causing all your pro shops that fully bought in to your solution to be screwed
      Etc.

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    15. Re:Oh Apple by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Your post would suggest that there was not any room made available, and the hate is very much still there.

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  6. First it was the headphone jack... by raftpeople · · Score: 5, Funny

    now they removed "cellular data"

    1. Re:First it was the headphone jack... by Nkwe · · Score: 5, Funny

      now they removed "cellular data"

      Sounds pretty courageous to me.

    2. Re:First it was the headphone jack... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for them.

  7. Re:"Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's how people write when they're thick as a brick.

    Courtesy translation for cement heads:
    "That its how people right when there thicc as an break."

  8. Why so many product updates over Christmas? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some of my games also self-updated since the 23rd. Are companies just trying to find reasons to keep their employees at work over the holidays now?

    1. Re:Why so many product updates over Christmas? by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

      The deadline was probably 'get this done before holiday vacation', and this is the result.

  9. Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cook's "leadership" has resulted in Apple being the source of increasingly mediocre products and software. The quality of this stuff is so bad that smart people are looking for alternatives in a very earnest manner, and I am in that group myself.

    Seriously, how long are stockholders and the Apple Board going to allow this to go on ?

    Apple is heading toward the abyss which is MUCH harder to get out of than it is to sink into. That abyss will taint the company so badly that the company will be lucky to survive, despite its vast cash reserves, which were earned before the influence of the truly incompetent Tim Cook had its full effect.

    1. Re: Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by DougReed · · Score: 1

      Here here! And take Jony Ive with his simple elegance (who needs upgradability and ports?) with you!

    2. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, how long are stockholders and the Apple Board going to allow this to go on ?

      Until they catch that infamous, diabolical, fictitious stalker!

    3. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You’re a retard.

    4. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That may be, but Tim Cook is still really bad for Apple users. Great for shareholders though!

    5. Re: Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here here!

      There, there...

      Lets here it for the igno-rants.

    6. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an actual Apple user let me reiterate. You’re a retard.

    7. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also wish people would send Cook and Jives a message and simply say NO to Apple and their increasingly mediocre products, but I don't know, I was recently in my local mall and the Apple Store was the only store crowded store.

      One thing that stood out that it was a very different mix of people than from before I must say. Many large massive overweight younger women in loose baggy clothing or trenchcoats, many men and women had numerous facial piercings, and multiple nose rings, red-blue- green dyed hair, lots of tattoos. It looked like a feminist & SJW convention was taking place. Maybe it was just the store I was at, but whites that grew up with Apple in the Steve Jobs second-coming era were definitely in the minority there.

      Unfortunately, it looks like the groups that previously bought Apple, but have given up on them and their currently worsening lines of crap are just being replaced by a different buyers.

    8. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Your conclusions are valid, but the cause you state is not.

      Problem: Steve Jobs is dead.

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    9. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an actual Apple user let me reiterate. You’re a retard.

      As an actual Apple user who has had military experience, I will tell you that you'd better learn to watch what you say to other people,
      because if you don't rein your mouth in, some day someone is going to kick the living shit out of you.

    10. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh look a person too stupid to go to college. The military is full of retards. That’s why we send them off to get killed.

    11. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, how long are stockholders and the Apple Board going to allow this to go on ?

      As long as Apple's stock price keeps rising (except for times like these, when most stock prices are falling).

    12. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Why? They're down 15% this year...

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    13. Re: Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Ease back on the sauce, dude. You can't even tell if you're coming or going anymore, or if you took yourself with you.

    14. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm only using macOS because of Windows 10 being malware and adware in one. (yeah, I tried Linux but I don't want to be a sysadmin the rest of my life)

      If Apple doesn't bring back something small like the SE by the time my iPhone 6 dies, I'm going to have to go to Android, even if I do hate Google. They can track me being in my room all day all the fuck they want, I no longer give a rat's ass, because I'm starting to hate Apple more.

    15. Re: Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an actual iCrap user let me reiterate, youâ(TM)re a fucking retard, shill.

    16. Re: Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Replaced by stupid n1ggers. There is like 9000% of them in american n1ggerstan, according to crapple propaganda.

    17. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cook lacks control over the company: there is no unified vision or direction.

      Some laptops have USB-C (aka Thunderbolt 3) ports, some USB-A and Thunderbolt 2, while phones and tablets doubled down on Lightning after dumping headphone jacks, and the iMac has USB-A, USB-C, and still a headphone jack. Sometimes the RAM is upgradeable, other times the hard drive, sometimes nothing. There's little consistency in the product lines, with the exception that everything is made continuously thinner -- but even then the MacBook "Air" line, which was originally intended to be the thinnest product, is actually fatter than the new, plain MacBook.

      The lack of quality control testing in recent software (not to mention some of the atrocious UI changes in the past few years) are the result of a similar lack of control. Jobs' micromanagement was an example of good control, however abrasive it might have been. Sure, he hurt some feelings, but he shipped good products. Cook seems more interested in virtue signaling about AIDS donations and leftist media content that nobody actually consumes; he ignores things like product control, not to mention innovation. When was the last time you saw an Apple product that wasn't just a stepwise improvement over an older Apple product? Under Jobs, probably.

    18. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Waccoon · · Score: 1

      To be fair, phones have pretty much peaked. Everyone has reached the point where the only way they can appear to make improvements is just to just change things for the hell of it and break stuff (like in most other mature tech markets). If Jobs were around, he'd be investigating new markets.

      Just wait and see what happens with the Mac when they try switching to ARM. I'm sure that will be a lot of laughs.

    19. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? They're down 15% this year...

      And so is the entire stock market.

      Wonder if there's a correlation, eh?

      Nah, that couldn't be it, right?

    20. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, phones have pretty much peaked. Everyone has reached the point where the only way they can appear to make improvements is just to just change things for the hell of it and break stuff (like in most other mature tech markets). If Jobs were around, he'd be investigating new markets.

      Just wait and see what happens with the Mac when they try switching to ARM. I'm sure that will be a lot of laughs.

      Yeah, the laugh will be on everyone else when they build a 32-core ARM-based Mac that has better performance than anything Intel or AMD offers for less than $3k (for the CPU chip itself!), and that runs a cool 24 hours on a 45 W/h battery.

    21. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      MSFT and AMZN are up for the year... GOOG is down half of what AAPL is for the year. It's really AAPL that has taken the big tech hit this year.

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    22. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Seriously, how long are stockholders and the Apple Board going to allow this to go on ?

      Huh? They must be loving it. Look at Microsoft, can't release the October patch without deleting user files and suddenly their stocks shoot past Apple. Based on this if Apple released a patch that caused all devices to suddenly explode I expect shortly after their company value to be worth more than that of the VoC at peak. Share holders are just that stupid.

      And worst case they can just rename themselves Apple Blockchain Computers (nicely short for ABC and a direct competitor to Alphabet) and the stock junkies would go crazy for that kind of forward thinking.

    23. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL fat chance

      You must be one of the same idiots that where dreaming that the iwatch was going to have a 1 week battery life.
      apple doesnt create tech until someone else does, then they copy.

    24. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are wasting your time with facts here. Brain dead apple cultists will ignore or spin the facts and claim apple is doing just great.

    25. Re:Tim Cook MUST STEP DOWN !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How has the stock performed since Cook became CEO? How much have they paid out in dividends?

  10. Not a problem by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    We have AI now, so this kind of thing isn't possible because computers are intelligent. Must be user error.

    1. Re:Not a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "AI" does not mean "intelligence." It never did.

      It refers to the use of engineering to imitate intelligence. That's why the word "artificial" is put in front. To imitate something is NOT to be something!

      See how simple that is?

      You seem to be thinking of something like "synthetic intelligence," which is not being claimed as accomplished by anyone, at this point.

    2. Re:Not a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus fuck are you an idiot. The guy you're replying to barely registers as possessing enough brain power to tap at a keyboard, yet he's still bright enough to sink a hook into your jawline. What a ridiculous response to a throwaway shitpost joke.

  11. Re: "Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Users were told that the problem was not related to their iOS version rather odd traffic on certain networks. Users may need to temporarily or permanently upgrade to 12.1.2 or 12.1.1 but may voluntarily downgrade back to 12.1.1 or even 12.1.0 if that meets their needs.

  12. Look on the bright side... by christoofar · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    This is the best way to get rid of robocalls.

  13. Not bricked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This just goes to show the lack of technical knowledge of reporters/bloggers. To clarify, you can't "brick" a feature... Bricking is when the device becomes nothing more than a literal brick because it's completely unusable. Apple didn't brick anything but it is funny that they broke their networking.

    1. Re: Not bricked by illiac_1962 · · Score: 1

      Thier networking stack has always sucked. I'm surprised people can wifi on this shit. I forgot, thier users can't and that's why they have that feature that lets anyone within radio-shot of your wifi network "share" the damn wifi password. What the serious fuck?

    2. Re: Not bricked by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      Bricking a feature means the same as bricking a device. That it is completely non-functional and not user repairable or user revertable.

    3. Re: Not bricked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, GP is right..."bricking" refers to hardware only because it means "to turn into a brick." You can't turn features into bricks. WTF people can't think logically anymore??

  14. I thought the point of making your own devices... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    was so that you controlled what hardware went into them, so shit like this didn't happen?

    You know, one of my friends was recently complaining to me about their latest Apple experience. Apparently they'd bought one of the newer MacBook Pro units (which wasn't cheap- it was well over $3500 CAD) and the unit came with a yellow tinted display. Since the unit was going into graphics design, this was unacceptable and it got sent back and replaced with another.

    That unit suffered from some pretty bad backlight bleed, but the colors seemed OK. It too got sent back for a third laptop, which had a slightly blueish tint instead. Finally, the fourth laptop they got seemed to be pretty good- until the WLAN started dropping less than a week later and one of the shift keys started flaking out.

    They landed up outright returning the unit and buying a Lenovo instead- which, from what I heard, was perfect OOTB the first time and just worked.

    Anyways, what I found most interesting about this was that the display had observably different visual issues each time. Apparently the one with the backlight bleed also suffered from some slight display ghosting and the one with the blue tint had a problem with noticeable burn-in after less than 10 minutes showing the same thing on-screen... all of which suggests that Apple is using different panels for the same computer with the exact same model number.

    If this is true, it would also explain how some people are affected by iOS update issues while others aren't. Despite the same model of phones, the internal hardware is different (either due to supply issues or penny pinching). For such premium devices, you'd think this wouldn't be an issue. If a Apple can't guarantee the hardware you're getting and whether or not that device will continue to function properly in the future, then it he prices they're charging for this stuff are outright absurd- the only thing more absurd than that is that people apparently keep buying this stuff.

  15. Holding it wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't hold it wrong while you update.

  16. Root cause by ReneR · · Score: 5, Informative

    is companies like Apple locking things down, to hinder third party repairs, users installing their own software, or even worse people porting Linux to their iDevices, and making sure nobody can make revenue out of the controlled wallet garden. So instead of amazing new features, they spend so much efforts on lock down and pseudo security, that they more often than not start to randomly break fragile things for normal users. On the MacBooks they even lock the iGPU away from Other OS, not to mention the T2 chip hiding the SSD, ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    1. Re:Root cause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple isn't even the only party involved who often does this. Verizon is known for locking out IMEI's, and it's not hard to come up with a reason why a device might misreport this. I think there definitely needs to be a better way of responding to these outlying conditions. If apple wants to destroy devices due to "unauthorized repairs", they could just put them on a list to be reviewed and then nuke them later. As is, everything is just stupidly done day 1 with no oversight.

    2. Re:Root cause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you cite this as the cause with hard evidence instead of "I hatez da Applezz!!!!11!!!!"?

      Seriously, everything you said is the regurgitation of tons of other inane Apple hate that has been going on around here for over a decade. You're going to have to bring something to the table. While Slashdot is no longer a tech site, I refuse to accept lazy and uninformative answers like this.

    3. Re: Root cause by nnull · · Score: 0

      This isn't just Apple doing this. Just look at Samsung's recent line up with their gimped US devices and massive ads that you can't remove. Buying an "unlocked" phone now is pretty much meaningless when the manufacture is acting like the carrier with all the BS loaded into the device that you can't remove.

    4. Re: Root cause by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Huh? I can't find the massive ads on my Note 8... I guess I'm not looking hard enough?

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    5. Re: Root cause by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      ... "unlocked" ... loaded into the device that you can't remove.

      Unlocked doesn't do anything for you unless you're going to replace the OS.

      What else would it even mean?

    6. Re: Root cause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unlocked doesn't do anything for you unless you're going to replace the OS.

      What else would it even mean?

      Unlocked means that you can use the phone with SIM-card from any operator. I.e. it is not bundled with a contract.
      Nothing to do with the phone hardware or root-ability otherwise.

  17. You're holding it wrong! by jjeffries · · Score: 1

    Best performance is attained by gripping it tightly betweenst your butt-cheeks, good fellow.

    1. Re:You're holding it wrong! by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      It improves the call quality, too, in most cases.

  18. Even if you didn't apply this update... by Mal-2 · · Score: 2

    This is a great excuse for not being on call today!

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  19. It's not just problems outside the US. by sehlat · · Score: 1

    Since the update, my cell data in the US has been arriving V E R Y S L O W L Y. Apps that normally respond in seconds are taking minutes to load even the basic screens. When my wife's driving and I'm handling navigation, this can become a problem, and not a small one, either.

    1. Re:It's not just problems outside the US. by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

      It's the holidays, most people are (not at work, therefore) using much more network bandwidth than normal. Your cell tower or even the server you are using could just be seeing a lot more traffic than normal, so things slow down. But as for this Apple issue, it's quite a funny debacle if you don't own an Apple product...

  20. no updates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ihave an iPhone 6 and it works fast, has long battery life, and works good -- I also never install these damaging updates -- current OS vendors have shown for years that they don't believe in safety and reliability

  21. If only... by Solandri · · Score: 2

    If only iPhone owners had a way to revert to an older version of iOS. But Apple in their infinite wisdom decided the extra security (and lower maintenance) of forcing everyone onto the same version was more important than having a safety net in case of a screwed up update. (I'd throw in a barb at Microsoft and Windows 10's automatic Updates here, but at least they still allow you to uninstall select updates that cause problems.)

    1. Re:If only... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I personally haven't updated from the latest 11 version and it's been working great for me :)

    2. Re:If only... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm in iOS you can disable automatic updates, you don't have to install updates if you don't want to. And you can disable automatic updates just by deselecting a checkbox, totally unlike Windows 10. In Windows sure you can uninstall an update, only to have it reinstall again

    3. Re:If only... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only you could connect it to iTunes, hold down a modifier key on the keyboard while hitting the Restore iPhone button, and have it load even and older firmware onto the device, a version that's still activated by Apple because they're not stupid enough to wall things off that quickly.

      Do you detect the sarcasm and that this is a thing you can absolutely do?

    4. Re:If only... by StuartHankins · · Score: 1

      Huh? Did you even try to Google for that? Of course you can revert to an older version. You do need a computer. Phone store employees can help you also, they just want your phone to work so they can bill you for service.
      https://www.newsweek.com/remov...
      https://www.imore.com/how-to-d...

  22. Apple microsofted their update! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    again...

  23. Re: I thought the point of making your own devices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh hell that is a lot of writing for a holiday. Are you in an institution too? I get my meds soon, how about you? And then they will be coming to take me away ha ha.

  24. Hey by AndyKron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apple: It just works

    1. Re:Hey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better than my Android ever did. Glad I'm away from that shitshow.

    2. Re:Hey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL well if you are too stupid to figure out Android you totally deserve whatever crap apple gives you.

    3. Re:Hey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Phone
      # Introduction #
      Thank you for purchasing a phone.
      With this phone, you will be able to make phone calls.
      [...]
      # Known Issues #
      1. May not be able to make phone calls

  25. Re:"Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by nyet · · Score: 1

    Even worse, he'll never correct it.

  26. Rarely update by DigressivePoser · · Score: 1

    Despite the infuriating nag reminders, I rarely update my iphone for this reason. When the stuff I use doesn't work right, new functionality I want gets added, or there's a newsworthy security update will I go through with it. And it's not just Apple that has these issues. Nearly all manufacturers do. At least with the iphone, I can control when updates occur. Other devices update automatically no matter what my wishes are.

  27. apple should be building in the usa where they hav by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 0

    apple should be building in the usa where they have more control and there less 3rd party manufacturing penny pinching

  28. Windows 10 User Here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welcome to my world.

  29. 911 calls disabled by Apple update? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Idiots... fucking idiots use apple.

  30. Slow Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I'm surprised is how long this story took to get on Slashdot. I know Slashdot is famous for this but not usually with Apple stories. I wanted to post it when I saw it 5 days ago but I haven't bothered logging in since 2001.

    This was a pretty important story and the problems reported on Apple forums are quite a bit more serious than is even reported here. We are talking people abroad that can't load their flight tickets and stuff because their cellular data and wifi stopped working after the update so they are missing flights. The problems on this particular story were quite long and from at least a thousand people.

  31. Happy Holidays by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    The police are offering to help out for the holidays, so just go ahead and bring that totally not stolen iPhone that stopped working in to your friendly neighborhood police station and theyâ(TM)ll get right on it.

  32. Jony Ive needs to be fired by fyngyrz · · Score: 0

    And take Jony Ive with his simple mindedness (who needs upgradability and ports and good-looking 3D icons and lovely desktops and Mac Pros that are upgradable?) with you!

    FTFY

    Jony Ive is a suppurating cancer on the face of every product / artwork he's ever touched at Apple.

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  33. Re:apple should be building in the usa where they by Harold+Halloway · · Score: 1

    Hi Donny,

    do you believe in Father Christmas?

  34. Re: I thought the point of making your own devices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Basically every iPhone update breaks cellular for people somewhere on earth and the fix is always the same: update carrier settings. This is barely even newsworthy and probably only happened because some carriers dropped the ball due to holiday season.

  35. Re:"Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    A large number of stupid people will not understand the connotation of "turns it into a brick," and think that "bricks" is just a trendy way of saying "breaks," and will use it like that all the time.

    And....it will become correct.

    I hate this about the English language. It is democratic. And the majority are idiots.

    My sense of irony inclines me to figure out how to incorporate into this post phrases like "this begs the question," "I could care less," "i should of," "for all intensive purposes," "the proof is in the pudding," etc...
    but I just can't make myself do it. Too many people will read it and not know it is wrong, and I will be reinforcing the problem.

  36. But why people still buy them ? by denisbergeron · · Score: 1

    The only reason to have a Apple Product is to show that you have enought cash to throw it out of the windows to buy an over-priced under powered with 2-3 years retarded features compared to alternative products!

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    1. Re:But why people still buy them ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The main reason to use an Apple product is because you hate Microsoft and Google more than you hate Apple.

      Other people will hate Apple more than they hate Microsoft and/or Google. I suppose people also can hate Samsung, HTC, etc. and thus choose on that basis which Google-infected phone they'll use.

      Sure, there's Linux, but most people don't know or care.

    2. Re:But why people still buy them ? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:But why people still buy them ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because there is nothing else to buy. And before you start - nothing running running android is acceptable at all.

  37. It's no wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With all the rushed releases because apple tried to steal Qualcomms patents and all the fragment in ios. apple is bad enough with software this only adds to the mess

  38. Patent negotiation by reanjr · · Score: 1

    Looks like Apple found a software workaround for the Qualcomm patents.

    1. Re:Patent negotiation by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      :chortle:

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  39. Re:"Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Here here!

  40. Re:"Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    That's what "it just works" always meant; it just works, or it doesn't, there is nothing you can do to help.

    The phrase is more of a code about not being able to service it yourself than it is an actual claim about features or uptime.

  41. Re:I thought the point of making your own devices. by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    If you want a quality computer, and you're ready to pay for it, buy a business computer, not a computer whose marketing targets your sense of Virtue as an Art'ist.

  42. ... into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't understand that SOB's fixation on thinner. But going to the flat icon UI still disgusts me.

    The whole industry spent decade after decade trying every trick in software and hardware to improve graphics, to enable our interfaces to depict objects and icons with as much rich detail and realism as possible... and those idiot pricks decide "hey, let's throw it all out the fucking window and make everything flat, tee hee!". God I hate those fuckers.

    Mr. Ive needs to be dispatched by pressing with stones -- that way he can be thinner.

  43. Growing tired of Slashdot by mkiefte · · Score: 1

    I have been reading /. for a very long time -- longer than I can remember. Over the last four years, the quality of the posts on this forum have become increasingly poor. It used to be that we would make fun of MS back when Bill Gates was depicted as a borg and we laughed like self-righteous fools. The target has turned to Apple and Google. Often the posts about Apple or Google are pretty thin such as this one. The article in question is from Tom's Guide who quotes Forbes (why not just take it from the Forbes article -- the Tom's Guide article adds zero). Forbes has been doing some pretty shady tech reporting lately and this is no exception. Exactly how broad a problem is this? I, myself, have never heard of it. A quick check of my own iPhone reveals that I'm running 12.1.2. Hmm.... No problems here. Let's check the other four iPhones in the house... nope. There is no news in this article. It's just a drive-by shooting and I'm starting to think that it isn't random. On another note, /. has provided me almost no news or entertainment in a couple of years. The reporting is terrible and completely lopsided. After years of enjoyment, it now completely sucks.

    1. Re:Growing tired of Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > A quick check of my own iPhone reveals that I'm running 12.1.2. Hmm.... No problems here.

      Indeed, if it works for you, it works for everyone everywhere. It must be fake news. It's not like this stuff is complex or anything. You look like a part of the problem with /.

  44. Re:"Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by e3m4n · · Score: 1

    remember several years ago when Websters added 'figurative' as part of a definition for 'literal' because too many people were misusing it?

  45. iOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So I really, really find iOS to be a terrible OS. I've come to the conclusion after talking to various iPhone owners that their phone is more jewelry than a useful device. They consistently seem surprised at the things my Pixel 3 can do. I'm consistently surprised by how primitive iPhones are yet people think they are somehow the best phone.

  46. Re:"Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Come on, you think you're being funny? Gimme a brick.
    *ow!*
    thanks.

  47. Re:I thought the point of making your own devices. by bitfist · · Score: 0

    You need a monitor color calibrator, like Color Munki. It is common for any monitor to have color issues. Many things affect color on a monitor, like room lighting, temperature, past calibrations... So for graphics-based work, you calibrate the monitor. Unless the monitor colors could not be adjusted, you do not need to send them back.

  48. Re: Think Differently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Small or not, it obvious still worked. You need a better insult to qualify on /.

  49. Cant MMS pictures anymore by trevc · · Score: 1

    I can't send pictures in text messages anymore. Spent an hour on the phone with AT&T Monday and they had me try everything they could think of. They told me to go to the AT&T store and get a new SIM. Looks like it's not just my phone after all.

    1. Re:Cant MMS pictures anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go to any electronics store and buy an Android phone. You'll be much happier with something like a Pixel 3.

  50. Re:I thought the point of making your own devices. by zlives · · Score: 1

    but then what would i complain about?

  51. iTODDLERS SEETHING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iTODDLERS SEETHING

  52. Re:"Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Bricks" is right there in the Fucking Article Headline. More proof that nobody RTFA anymore on Slashdot. And that the posted articles become shittier.

  53. Re:"Bricks cellular data"?!?! WTF?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >I hate this about the English language

    ??

    That the whole f*cking point of english! it's freestyle all the way!

    Your 'english' is just a snapshot in time, place and culture. Other languages change too but it's what english is based on and why it's so awesome and so hard to learn for those that didn't grow up speaking it.

  54. Use a real phone instead. by stooo · · Score: 0

    Use a real phone instead.
    Think Different, Think Real.

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    1. Re:Use a real phone instead. by tsa · · Score: 1

      Like what?

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