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Ask Slashdot: Is Today's Technology As Cool As You'd Predicted When You Were Young?

"How does the actual, purchaseable consumer technology available in 2019 compare to what you -- back in the 1960s, '70s, '80s or '90s -- thought consumer technology might look like around the year 2020?" asks Slashdot reader dryriver. Is today's consumer technology as advanced, inventive, groundbreaking and empowering as you imagined it would be 30, 40, 50 years ago? Or is the "technological future that has now actually arrived" different, in various ways, from how you'd hoped/imagined it might be a few decades back?

If so, what was different in your "future technologies imagination" than what is available to buy today?

Each generation received different dreams from the pop culture of their time. Back in 1969 an 18-year-old Kurt Russell starred in a Disney movie with a malfunctioning mainframe. By 1984 one TV series showed David Hasselhoff with his own talking self-driving car. But how close did your own personal predictions come, asks the original submission.

"Do today's technological gadgets manage to live up to how you imagined tech around the year 2020 would be, or do they fall short of what you hoped/imagined might exist by today?

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  1. Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    except for processing information, everything is just basically at a standstill. We still have the same roads and houses I had growing up in the 1980s.

    1. Re:Not really by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But regarding computers, the books I had back then were predicting that my computer in the year 2000 would be a 100 MHz GaAs machine running Occam, so that turned out to be quite a bit better.

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    2. Re:Not really by fred911 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have to disagree. Many of us swim in more bandwidth than we ever expected to be as cheaply available. Especially those of us who thought 3kbps V.42bis brought us was the cats meow!

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    3. Re:Not really by Z00L00K · · Score: 2

      Some of the leading tech like computers and TVs are pretty cool actually - and that we can have all we have on a small USB stick in our pocket.

      The bad parts - well, that was predicted by Aldous Huxley, George Orwell and by the TV show "Max Headroom".

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    4. Re:Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Exactly. Back in the 80s, I envisioned 2000 and beyond to be a high tech utopia (or possibly dystopia). All houses and buildings would be updated to "space age" materials instead of wood or rock and to be more arcology-like. Flying cars, robots, cyborgs and cloning would be commonplace in every day life. Computers would be at the point where even the oldest, cheapest ones would be fast enough to process anything instantly. We'd have a colony on Mars and robots on the moons of the outer planets.

      The future turned out to be an almost complete let-down.

    5. Re: Not really by zidium · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In the late-1990s when I joined Slashdot, I would never have imagined that in 2019 we wouldn't have Unicode / UTF-8 support. I didn't discover UTF-8 until 2002, but still...

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    6. Re: Not really by zidium · · Score: 4, Funny

      Man! I just realized that I have been on Slashdot longer than several of my team members have been alive!

      Fuck :O 20 years!

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    7. Re:Not really by zidium · · Score: 1

      You had an awfully cheap imagination then!

      I had 100 Mbit in college in 2000 and my home didn't catch up until 2017. Thank you, Comcast!

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    8. Re:Not really by Stoutlimb · · Score: 4, Informative

      Speak for yourself about same roads and houses. The standard of living in Western countries where I live has consistently gone downhill since the 1980s. Personally I can't even imagine owning the kind of houses my parents could afford back then. That kind of good living is out of reach for me.

    9. Re:Not really by zidium · · Score: 1

      It's because of the anti-profit-sharing psychopathic CEOs that keep laying off people like us and hobbling our ideas.

      The more I age, the more I am convinced that these silicon billionaires are all patsies for the Elites who just give them the tech to enslave us.

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    10. Re:Not really by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      You know someone lacks imagination about the future when they miss the bus and wish they had a Star Trek transporter so they could beam themselves to the next bus stop.

    11. Re: Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Agreed we have just gotten faster information processing at the expensive of our privacy

      Id rather that we had just kept the old Amigas ect instead then

    12. Re:Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      New homes are. New homes are a tiny minority, meanwhile housing prices continue to rise regardless of the size.

    13. Re:Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Homes today are 1000 sq ft larger than in 1973

      Well that's a relief to know square footage is to blame for the 10x increase in home prices.

      For a minute there I was worried we were going to have to blame a false economy shored up by hyperinflated value backed by strongarm tactics represented by a global police force, or something.

    14. Re:Not really by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 1

      So you disagree that all we have improved is information processing by telling me you have cheap bandwidth? ...I see.

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    15. Re: Not really by mccalli · · Score: 1

      I have a username in the five digits. I joined after I read about the idea of moderation making good discussion rise to the top, in an issue of the now-defunct .NET magazine (predates the runtime/language). I stopped when I saw I was in the the ~13,000 level. After all, how could a conversation possibly take place between a whole 13,000 people...?

      I try once a year to convince the admins to give me the username back - I've no idea the credentials I used to login with and even if I had I wouldn't have control of those addresses anymore. Ah well.

    16. Re: Not really by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      Standstill is spot-on when people still have to wash their dirty clothes in one machine, and dry them in another instead of simply loading them(dirty sneakers and all) in one and teleporting them to the other--without the dirt and ketchup stains. Am impressed that Roddenberry even thought about starship laundry back then

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    17. Re:Not really by smallfries · · Score: 1

      It makes a difference though. We’re sitting in a 5-hour drive back home after the weekend. My kid is sitting in the back watching Netflix on a iPad connected to personal hotspot on a 4g phone. Huge difference from staring out of the window as a kid myself...

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    18. Re:Not really by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      pretty sure the majority of the housing stock was built before 1960, and did not have additions constructed

    19. Re:Not really by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      I pointed out that this theory was wrong a few days ago, yet you continue to spew it. You can't buy a '50s-sized house for inflation-adjusted '50s house prices today. IOW, people aren't just choosing bigger houses and then bitching about the price.

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    20. Re:Not really by zidium · · Score: 1

      Staring out the window as a kid encourages, even demands, the creation and flexing of an imagination! Something that is absolutely critical in an information-driven creative society like our's!

      Your son is going to be at a great disadvantage because of that iPad! I never let my stepkids do that sort of things on trips, for longer than 30 minutes every few hours.

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    21. Re:Not really by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      New homes are built to such a shit standard that the foundations start cracking and boards start pulling apart after a couple years. At least the one my parents moved into is - but you can tell the miles of identical houses around it are all built in the same rush, and with the same cheap materials.

      *That* certainly doesn't get brought up by the realtor in his pitch. I'd tell him he can keep the 1000 square feet.

      Another thing you can tell by walking through these neighborhoods, a lot of the "single-family homes" are actually being used as apartments. In a 4-bedroom, you might have several non-related tenants living there besides the property owner. You might get 15% more square feet, but then you have to split the whole house three ways, to be able to pay for it.

    22. Re: Not really by therealkevinkretz · · Score: 1

      I donâ(TM)t know too much about roads but houses have changed. HVAC systems are much more efficient. Windows too.

    23. Re: Not really by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Old people should get out of tech and make room for the younger generation.

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    24. Re: Not really by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

      And how is that any different from once-proud Harlem brownstones getting subdivided into a half-dozen apartments by the mid 20th century, before the area finally (re-)gentrified and they started turning back into single family homes again (or at least, one family per floor or two, vs one family per former ROOM)?

      Old small postwar homes still exist... but the NICE ones are now inhabited by one or two people, not extended families with 4 kids and a grandparent or two.

      I'd personally say the nadir of South Florida construction quality was the pre-Andrew 1980s. Pretty much every 1980s-era bathroom in Florida is a biohazard under the wall tile (vapor barriers weren't required, Hardiebacker didn't exist, and it somehow wasn't illegal to use normal drywall (not even the inadequate green kind) around a tub & attach tile using mold-feeding mastic.

    25. Re:Not really by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      The standard of living in Western countries where I live has consistently gone downhill since the 1980s. Personally I can't even imagine owning the kind of houses my parents could afford back then. That kind of good living is out of reach for me.

      That's because you paid too much for that trans theory degree. With a more marketable education, you could have had a job that let you afford all those things.

    26. Re:Not really by rainer_d · · Score: 1

      Kudos for doing that.
      People are literally narcotizing their kids with smartphones and tablets...that's so cruel.

      It's a bit like giving a baby a gulp of beer to make it stop crying.

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    27. Re: Not really by divide+overflow · · Score: 1

      Old people should get out of tech and make room for the younger generation.

      Time will eventually kill us old guys off. Until then I need to teach a few qualified kids what I do as most of them are *utterly clueless* and severely unmotivated.

    28. Re:Not really by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 2

      Orwell predicted that the government would mandate telescreens in homes so they could spy on people. He never considered that people would actually _voluntarily pay money_ to put telescreens in their homes! (Google home, Alexa, etc)

    29. Re:Not really by fred911 · · Score: 1

      It all depends upon perspective. My school had a lightning fast T1 connection. But I don't remember a web browser on our PDP11s. I do seem to remember some experimental work on gopher being done.

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    30. Re: Not really by Frederic54 · · Score: 1

      I'm here since ~1997 or something, and still come about daily to read some news and comments :)

      And my username had accentuated charater in it, and at one point when they change slashcode, it borked everything and I had to email CmdrTaco to change the name in the database...

      It's incredible that in 2019 we still have problem with accentuated character and Unicode...

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    31. Re: Not really by loccohombre · · Score: 1

      Man! I just realized that I have been on Slashdot longer than several of my team members have been alive!

      Fuck :O 20 years!

      Get off my lawn!

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    32. Re:Not really by dublin · · Score: 1

      I'll admit to being a Telebit modem bigot: Those things were awesome (essentially CDMA over an audio channel), doing 19.2 Kbps when everyone else was stuck at 3, and 56 Kbps long before there were any "standards" for that.

      They really weren't modems, but rather outboard intelligent communications processors (most used the Motorola 68000, the same processor that powered the Macs of the day, so in some cases they were faster and smarter than the computers they connected, and of course, pretty expensive, too.) I used the a lot of Telebits on international projects, because they were staggeringly noise resistant, just slowing down in the event of noise but ramping back up rapidly and automatically and dynamically selecting channels based on whether there was noise at that frequency band. This was pretty close to communications magic! Interestingly, given the high cost of international long distance back then, you made your money back on the things in less than a year.

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    33. Re:Not really by terrycarlino · · Score: 1

      The reason you don't see kids playing in the street is that, while the world is no more dangerous, in the present if you are a parent and let your kid play outside unsupervised, and something happens to them you will be held up on coast to coast 24/7 new as a bad parent and you will be doomed.

      So in self preservation no parent will allow their child out of their sight less social stigma destroy them. This what happens in the world of the 24/7 internet enabled new cycle.

    34. Re:Not really by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      We still have the same roads and houses I had growing up in the 1980s.

      Really? You had roads littered with electric chargers, virtual parking meters, advanced predictive traffic light management? Or are you just talking about the colour?

      Likewise with your house, there have been leaps and strides in terms of energy efficiency, insulation, cooling, technology for smart home management and security. Or are you talking about that fact that it still is a set of walls with an angled roof?

    35. Re:Not really by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Personally I can't even imagine owning the kind of houses my parents could afford back then.

      Move to a city with the same population as your parents and you'll find houses at the same prices. Yeah my house cost double what my parent's did inflation taken into account. I also earn more, live closer to the city, and that same city has exactly doubled in population since 1980.

      My house is also larger, as has been the trend of building McMansions int he past 30 years.

    36. Re:Not really by fred911 · · Score: 1

        USRobitics snob I was. Thumbing my nose at the various supposed 56k6 "soft modems" (but admittedly they did provide a significant amount of "beer money" via support work). USR's just worked, all the time, regardless of what you were connecting to.

        I do remember how most consumer level communication devices were R232/serial connections. If you didn't have an STB 4com capable of shared IRQs, and had more than a mouse and a modem, you would spend hours between configuring memory management, changing address and/or IRQ assignment jumpers in order to effectively utilize the limited resources available at the time.

        Who could have imagined the incredible amount of resources provided as cheap as it is today, only to be straddled with underperforming, bloated, non-configurable, invasive, OSs that rob the incredible performance of even entry level hardware.

        Even worse than that, who would have ever imagined that today you can take a 5 year SOHO computer that's followed the update and upgrade instructions for the machine, and install any current or equally aged distro and have a device that performs significantly better than most new equally priced device, not even considering how that "old underpowered" device really wasn't underpowered, it is just saddled with an incredibly inefficient OS (or hidden/undocumented remains of user installed software/BHO/"features").

        Even, even, even more worse (worserer?)... Who would have imagined that there's basically no work that you can't do (as efficiently) on a 5 year old machine (with available software capable of effectively utilizing the abundance of resources available), and that machine wouldn't have a significantly poorer user experience than the equivalent new machine purchased today?

          It used to be our software development necessitated hardware changes just to get the job done. And today, most consumers have excessive hardware resources being wasted by poor software.

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    37. Re: Not really by mckwant · · Score: 1

      Your ageist squabbling distracts from the true enemy.

      Who's up for throttling a PM?

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    38. Re:Not really by smallfries · · Score: 1

      There is no evidence to suggest that. I consider it more likely that imagination develops as a result of creative play. Forcing somebody to be bored for several hours is just unnecessary.

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  2. Re:phones by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2

    Heinlein had them in "Space cadet" in the late 40s. Clarke had them in "Imperial Earth" in 1976.

  3. Re:Where is sex robot? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    Hang on Deckard nearly died fighting one of those.

  4. Nudie Button by eric31415927 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I assumed that we'd have a nudie button on our TVs by now, where one could press the nudie button and see all the TV personalities in their birthday suits. Well that is what I thought back in the 70's. I'm sort of glad it didn't come to pass yet.

    1. Re:Nudie Button by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      /sarcasm Because there isn't enough (celebrity) porn on the internet already? :-)

      I guess you could always watch the news naked =P

    2. Re:Nudie Button by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      But that's only because the definition of "celebrity" went downhill.

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    3. Re: Nudie Button by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      Did you really have to add yet as in, ' glad it hasn't come to pass yet'

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    4. Re:Nudie Button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That would actually be possible with today's AI technology. Possibly even in real time. Obviously the bodies would be simulations based on data collected from porn movies and such, but I think it would still look realistic.

    5. Re:Nudie Button by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      I'm sure some DeepFakes-like system will make that possible within a few years.

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  5. Depends by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2

    I thought we would have had much better computer voice recognition by now but the web and mobile devices are far more capable than I ever imagined they would be. The biggest disappointment is space technology which is far behind where I thought it would be by now although SpaceX is helping it get there.

    1. Re:Depends by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? Voice recognition is pretty much amazing!

      No, it is not. Only yesterday Siri on my Apple TV was failing so badly to understand my spelling of a password that I gave up in frustration and watched the CBC show on my laptop. Voice recognition "sort of" works but it is not always reliable, even slight background noises can distract it and it still needs training. At least that is my experience speaking English with an English accent.

    2. Re:Depends by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Alexa is way better than Siri at speech-to-text. Siri has one microphone. Alexa has an array of four to seven microphones (depending on the model) which makes it way easier to focus on a single voice and tune out background noise.

      But the biggest problem is not speech-to-text, but the semantic understanding of the text. That will require GP-AI, and is still a long way off.

  6. I'm still waiting by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    for the paperless office.

    Seriously, on more than one occasion back in the 1970s I heard how companies like Weyerhauser and Georgia Pacific were worried about how the advent of computers was going to destroy their business within a few years. But whenever I've looked around the various offices and labs I've worked in, and all I see is paper and more paper.

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    1. Re:I'm still waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      In the last 3-4 years, the amount of paper that I go through has finally dropped to an insignificant amount. I probably use 90% less than I did 4 years ago.

    2. Re:I'm still waiting by AHuxley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The paperless office the world enjoys now is getting accessed by criminals, police and governments via open networks and junk crypto.
      At least secure paperwork makes them have to physically enter a building.

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    3. Re: I'm still waiting by jemmyw · · Score: 1

      My company specifically bans using paper. We're an all remote team distributed around the world and if we printed stuff they'd need to sort out secure storage or disposal.

    4. Re:I'm still waiting by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      I can relate.

      I was working at a law firm as the IT guy. They decided to go paperless by scanning in all of the boxes of case material and all of the mail received.

      I took a deep dive (this was mid-90s) and advised against it, with reasons. As was my custom, I made sure the discussion was documented via email.

      They hired a college student to do the legacy scanning and she worked on it for 6 months before rotating out. Remember PHB pointing out that temporary employees weren't loyal to the company? She twiddled her thunbs and mostly studied for exams back there.

      They started over and created a marginally less chaotic batch of scans for beta and told me to buy the software.

      $60,000 for a database that did OCR, producing a text duplicate of the scanned documents.

      Those of you who were around at that time feel the pain: OCR was 68% accurate and especially overwhelmed by noise introduced by copying. Signatures and stamps often overlay the text. Some of the "originals," were copies. It was, in total, about as useless as tits on a boar.

      Also recall that storage was at premium prices back then. Also recall that the standard box was a Pentium running at 1ghz with 1gb memory. The database was not SQL, so the desktop did the heavy lifting.

      I retired from that p;ace about 3 years ago and the goddam paperwork is costing a shit load of money by way of storage space on and offsite and people still have to find and open boxes and sift through the paperwork to find stuff.

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    5. Re:I'm still waiting by zidium · · Score: 1

      It's *so* amazing to me that you managed to work at the same place for over 20 years! Every job I love I get sacrificed in a layoff before 3 years are up.

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    6. Re:I'm still waiting by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      I spent 9 years in the Navy starting at 19.

      I got laid off from Texaco, Port Arthur, after 7 tears as an journeyman instrument man back in the early 80s.

      I worked at Mobil Oil for 10 years and got laid off. As I was leaving, they said, "Oh, wait. You're 50, so you're retired." I get retirement from them.

      I worked 18 years at a law firm. half of that with another law firm. The second tried to poach me and I was headed that way when the two managing partners worked out a deal where I worked a half day at each.

      My two nightmares were lack of backup and intruders.

      I enjoyed the law firms. I retired about 3 years ago and don't miss one goddam minute of it.

      I do find that I'm losing traction keeping up with the latest enterprise-level technology because I'm not up to my neck in it.

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    7. Re:I'm still waiting by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The paperless office works just fine. The criteria for it though is that the company you work for needs to not use Dilbert as it's primary strategic guide.

      I think I printed a total of about 100 pages last year, and 50 of those were my resume. On the flipside my Outlook and OneDrive accounts have increased by many gigabytes.

  7. Hit and miss; and often hidden or forgotten by Flexagon · · Score: 1

    For me, it's like pundits' and SiFi writers' predictions: some big hits, some big misses. For example, I'd have thought that fusion generation would long since have been solved, and I'd be paying a utility to power my house with it (which I'd say qualifies as consumer-purchasable technology). And yet solar energy is now just about off-the-shelf price competitive most places.

    What I've noticed over time is that the things we do have now are difficult (in time and effort) and even if they just seem to pop up or have become so ubiquitous that it's hard to imagine not having had them anymore, these "simple" things have required many, many advances by large numbers of people incrementally over a long time, and then yet more time for us to figure out how to best use them. It's just hard to see that unless you look explicitly or are in it.

    It's just as easy to grossly underestimate the time a prediction might take as it is to miss a blindside breakthrough.

  8. No Imaginary Trade-Offs by brian.stinar · · Score: 1

    I don't have to decide between guns or butter in my imagination. When I was young, I imagined cool robot friends and trips to other worlds. Now, I have a Roomba and travel internationally, but most technology that I imagine today involves clients and difficult trade-offs. My focus on imaginary technology now is limited by what I can have the company I own, sell to someone with money (no equity deals, please.) Children don't have the same practical concerns, and (thankfully, in my country) aren't worried about how feasible something is. There isn't much of a difference between science fiction, and fantasy, when you're young. If you come from a stable background, you can dream a lot when little.

    Also thankfully, I never imaged how awesome financial technology could be when young. It's awfully nice having a visa card that works almost anywhere on earth, in any currency. I'm happy I didn't think about money when a little kid. The same for medical technology. I'm still happy no one in my party has died from dysentery, or a horse kick...

    This question is really How limited of an imagination did you have when young, and how unrealistic and uneducated an understanding of technology do you have now?

    Elon Musk is the exception. That guy builds some seriously cool stuff, about as cool as I imagined when I was little.

    1. Re:No Imaginary Trade-Offs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "That guy builds some seriously cool stuff" = the flamer toy? Everything "he built" has been built before to similar spec. What Musk "did" really was make viable businesses, plural (w/ underestimated challenges you might say) out of those products. There's nothing particularly new about an electric car, for example. But to accomplish that business fiat of making reasonably good on a quasi-affordable promise on his Teslas, WHILE having his SpaceX rockets achieving new competence in replacing older vehicles, WHILE attempting to bore a tunnel under downtown LA to move idiots around more efficiently, I mean, that's a lot of challenges to overcome to even be in business in any one of the three. He's cut some corners, made some mistakes, and had some serious questionable judgment more than a few times in his personal mindfart-feed, but as long as he's not calling strangers a PEDO (Guruevi admitted it..) or making SEC-awakening pronouncements about his officer status in his corporate holdings, derp... I'd give him a B. I'm impressed by the breadth of the attempt rather than as if he were "incredibly innovating" in some technological sense. Setting up tents over his production line when he had a fire and ran out of space, that's genius. Covering up for worker injuries on the plant to keep OSHA away... not so genius. Paying millions of dollars and risking prison, all for running your mouth? Trump level genius? Heh.

  9. Payroll... by The+Original+CDR · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I was a kid in the early 1980's, the only programming books that the library had was about COBOL and payroll. Thank God that kids today don't have to learn about either one.

    1. Re:Payroll... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Thank God that kids today don't have to learn about either one.

      Yeah, COBOL is all but dead, and they're not getting paid...

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    2. Re:Payroll... by epine · · Score: 1

      Warning: I'm not the kind of person who summarizes fifty years in fifty words on a topic I care about.

      Back in 1969 an 18-year-old Kurt Russell starred in a Disney movie with a malfunctioning mainframe.

      Much charisma from the feature actor, terrible plot. Disney rotated this through their line-up on a regular basis during my childhood.

      The Space Race began in August 1955, when the Soviet Union responded to the US announcement four days earlier by declaring they would also launch a satellite "in the near future".

      The Soviet Union beat the US to the first successful launch, with the October 1957 orbiting of Sputnik 1, and later beat the US to have the first human in earth orbit, Yuri Gagarin, in April 1961.

      Wikipedia loses its mind at this point, by declaring that the race peaked in 1969, with the first humans on the moon. I would have said the race peaked in 1961 when JFK addressed Russia through a national address in six short words: screw you, game on, all-in.

      The Jetsons is an American animated sitcom produced by Hanna-Barbera, originally airing from September 1962 to March 1963.

      By coincidence, the most important patent of the 20th century's turbocharged digital economy was issued a few scant years before the JFK gauntlet.

      The planar process is a manufacturing process used in the semiconductor industry to build individual components of a transistor, and in turn, connect those transistors together.

      The process was developed by Jean Hoerni, one of the "traitorous eight", while working at Fairchild Semiconductor, with a first patent issued 1959.

      By coincidence, this most important patent of the 20th century's turbocharged digital economy was issued months before the 20th century's most important regulatory approval.

      The birth control pill is a type of birth control that is designed to be taken orally by women. ... They were first approved for contraceptive use in the United States in 1960, and have remained a popular form of birth ever since.

      This is normally associated with hasty, experimental embrace of free love, but far more important than free love was mustering any love at all.

      The Civil Rights Act of 1964 (enacted July 1964) is a landmark civil rights and U.S. labor law in the United States that outlaws discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. It prohibits unequal application of voter registration requirements, racial segregation in schools, employment, and public accommodations.

      I was born in the summer of 1963. If you ran a PCA of the defining societal changes that frame my life, as I've chosen to embrace it, those would be the three dominant terms: the planar process, the birth control pill, and the American Civil Rights Act—all coming into force over the first half of the 1960s. (Many American evangelicals in the Deep South have yet to swallow all three.)

      The future is already here — it's just not very evenly distributed.

      Backing the biographical camera up a few feet, I need to give a shout out to Turing (computable numbers), Shannon (information theory), von Neumann (fully programmable digital computing), Watson/Crick/Franklin (double helix); Bardeen/Brattain/Shockley (the transistor), Hubble/Penzias/Guth (cosmic inflation), and Schrodinger/Einstein/Dirac/Pauli/Heisenberg/Tomonaga/Schwinger/Feynman/Dyson for the hard-won "jewel of physics" QED.

      But none of this forms a frame for one man's life: it's all way too big.

      Concerning the planar process, it's important to point out that the planar process was substantially aided and abetted by Raman amplification (aka iridium-doped optical fibers), without which the phrase "too cheap to

    3. Re:Payroll... by Waccoon · · Score: 1

      You forgot BASIC... all 150 dialects of it.

    4. Re:Payroll... by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 1

      Some good insights there, well-written. Perhaps the free exchange of thought on the internet isn't dead yet.

  10. To be honest by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    when I was in High School, I begged my parents for a TTY with a punched tape device and an acoustic modem for Christmas.

    So all these years later with TBs of local storage, Multi MB connection to the Internet, streaming video, cell phone... It's pretty miraculous.

    What isn't too surprising is the avarice of companies, the lack of privacy and assholes and control freaks in general.

    Computers in general were supposed to make the world a better place for everyone.

  11. Re:Yes by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Don't you like computer games AC? All that low cost 4K ready computer power?
    Enjoy reading about PRISM and BULLRUN AC?

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    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  12. No, it fucking sucks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I grew up in the 90s.

    I remember visiting actual computer stores, which had isles and isles packed with the latest greatest gadgets, games, peripherals, and other random accessories. I remember the GPU revolution that started in the late 90s and gave birth to the Voodoo 2 PCI, GeForce 2 MX, ATI 9800 series, etc. I remember seeing sound cards going from ISA to PCI and some truly revolutionary tech like A3D (Aureal 3D) come and go. I remember buying numerous joysticks and gamepads, because a lot of games could make use of them, and some of that stuff was really neat as well (like the Microsoft Force Feedback 2 units- the FF on those things could break a small child's wrist when it was cranked up to max, and it was fucking awesome with Mechwarrior).

    I remember buying and using a Palm, then later upgrading to a Pocket PC (specifically an iPaq). Yeah, the software was a bit glitchy but I didn't care. It let me take notes on the foldable keyboard and play SimCity 2000 on the go (plus DOOM and some emulated Sega games), which was awesome enough. I had the latter in my pocket for well over a decade before it became unusable with modern day software.

    I remember buying printers- some were expensive, some weren't. The best printer I ever owned was a Canon BJC-6000. It had a removable print head (and came with a spare holder for one) that you could swap if you had the photo head instead (which took more cartridges), and even a scanner unit that would let you scan stuff instead of printing it (granted, it was a bit slow since the head still had to go back and forth to scan the entire sheet). The cartridges were just cheap plastic tanks that you could refill super easily because they were transparent, Canon used an optical level sensor on those units which consisted of a tiny prism at the bottom that either refracted light or didn't based on how much ink was left.

    The internet was pretty chill too. I loved chatting to people over IRC using my Seanix Pentium 75mhz computer with 16mb of RAM and a 2mb Trident SVGA graphics card. This was over dial-up, but it didn't matter much because most websites were optimized for that sort of thing. Nobody was trying to track me, things like Facebook didn't exist, and for the large part it was just a massive online community of knowledge and information.

    I got to see things evolve and refine themselves, and the future seemed like it was going to be so fucking wonderful- and then it all came crashing down.

    I guess it happened when the corporations got interested in things- or maybe it happened when people started demanding exponential increases in profits, who knows.

    What I do know is this:

    - Everything I use is encrypted in some bullshit way that removes control from me, the owner and user
    - The last printer I owned tried to tell me that my perfectly good ink cartridges were "expired" and refused to use them
    - Everyone is trying to track me on the internet or advertise to me somehow
    - Simple things like IRC somehow turned into Discord, a bloated abomination built on Electron that sucks up 32x more RAM than my original IRC computer had to do the same fucking thing
    - Computers no longer listen to my wishes in general- ie, don't fucking update yourself because I have actual work to do and everything works fine as-is
    - Ditto for most consumer electronic devices that think they know better than me
    - Mostly everything is built to break down after the warranty expires and/or be as unrepairable as possible (my Palm and PPC had user replaceable batteries)
    - Software has turned into a big old black box that nobody really understands, including the vendor, since the answer to most things is "reinstall/reformat and try again"

    Maybe I'm lucky... Maybe I only have fond memories of things because it was truly a time of user innovation. But it just seemed like everyone wanted to produce a good solid product back then, and making money was just a side effect of having something consumers WANTED to buy- not something that they NEEDED to buy

    1. Re:No, it fucking sucks. by ZincFinger · · Score: 1

      Yup.

    2. Re:No, it fucking sucks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, the technology is fantastic. People still suck and use technology against you.

    3. Re:No, it fucking sucks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'd like to add to this. I started fiddling around with a PC in the early 2000s, and we didn't have money for gadgets. I kept learning about what the PC could do, and felt more and more in control. Then I discovered the internet. It took me a while to realize what was up, the browser wars etc, but the future looked promising: standards everywhere, various networks that tried to communicate between each other. XMPP was popular, people (granted, in my social bubble) were setting up personal servers. Federation seemed as a natural evolution.
      Then came facebook. Then came Chrome. Now we're back in monoculture, with a lack of desire to fight it (Chrome is open, right?)
      And then came Intel ME, AMD PSP, and finally Win 10. How do you work with devices you can't trust? How do you live in a world where you can't trust anything/anyone?
      I feel computing is slipping away from us users, and with it various other things, from cars to washing machines.

    4. Re:No, it fucking sucks. by TeknoHog · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Back in the 90s, all the cool kids used to laugh at us nerds for having a (social) life around computers and electronic gadgets. Fast forward about 15 years, and those cool kids start flocking to Facebook and getting addicted to "smart"phones. Eventually, it doesn't help if you stay away from FB yourself, the web is ruined for everyone.

      On the actual tech side, the industry has become a kind of push-pull feedback system. Traditionally, tech was developed in a forward sense to become more capable, but due to DRM, a lot of effort is spent on pushing back on those capabilities. You're paying more to get less, because of all the anti-tech tech that has to be developed. For example, DRM in game consoles means you cannot program the hardware you own, with the PS3 as probably the saddest example. And as a consumer, you've paid for somebody to develop that DRM.

      One symptom of both of the above issues is the appification of the web. I'm guessing things like Instagram want to keep users on the app rather than the web interface, in order to have more control on ads and tracking. I'm part of the problem as I use Instagram to promote my work, but the practical experience is kind of clunky: after using a real computer to make a video, you have to use a toy machine that runs the IG app to post it (I use Android-x86 on an old netbook).

      To me, a central part of the dream/prediction was that computers become universal tools. For example, in 2000 I remember arguing that instead of the digital TV network, we should instead build better Internet infrastructure, because that would also work for TV programming, plus a lot more. Well, we spent a ton on the digital TV tech and people had to buy new receivers. Of course, about a decade later they had a new cycle of upgrade to watch things like Netflix. Meanwhile, I'd been using computers to watch movies and TV series since 2001, but I guess I was spoiled by fast campus Internet, and didn't realize how long it would take to get similar speeds to the masses.

      Well, that was kind of a detour -- the TV did get integrated with the computer eventually. But the general appification/smartphone trend is what's breaking the ideal now. You can't use a single general-purpose computer to do everything online, because some things are only published as smartphone apps (and running Android-x86 on a VM doesn't quite cut it). I guess people really want different appliances for different things, such as "smart" TVs for watching Netflix.

      Still, I'm mostly happy with how the tech has progressed. I can mostly stay away from the social media rat race and focus on doing my own thing on faster and better hardware. At the same time I'm a bit wary of how things are going. I try to hold on to good hardware as I'm not sure if general purpose computers will be available forever.

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    5. Re:No, it fucking sucks. by antdude · · Score: 1

      Older stuff were cooler, but current stuff. Meh. Also, buggy and bad QA tested. :(

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  13. Mostly everything sucks. by Narcocide · · Score: 5, Informative

    Graphics are better. Security is worse. Understanding is worse. RAM is cheaper but software just wastes more of it to compensate. Same goes for CPU speed; CPUs are much faster but software is just slower to compensate. Bandwidth is overpriced as fuck. Dishonesty runs rampant in the industry, causing permanent erosion of the public trust.

    1. Re:Mostly everything sucks. by xonen · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Agree. Audio/hifi equipment is of poor quality. TV's got bigger but the content did not improve (ok, we have on demand). Most household devices have a limited lifespan, and the ones that seem to last are made before 1980.

      The smartphone was a predictable invention, although i had imagined it with a keyboard - and still wish they had. Computers did got faster but software got worse, resulting more often than not in a slower computer and a more annoying experience - an MS-DOS PC was very predictable, modern windows PC not so.

      So, while there are improvements i don't have the feeling of 'living in the future'. The quality of many items just sucks. Partly because of low cost, partly because of an economic strategy - the 'fail by design'.

      As far computer games go - it seems that people in the 90's had just as much or maybe even more fun on their nintendo consoles or MS-DOS pc's than nowadays, with spammers scammers and cheaters ruling the online platforms, and games showing off fancy graphics but do not necessarily have good game play, exceptions there. Then there seems a huge market for 'pay to play' which more resembles gambling than gaming.

      Education has got worse, not better, according to many. Modern tools not help and personally i think an 'iPod' school is an horrible idea. For sure people's attention span got worse, millennials seem to think it's normal to be interrupted by an electronic device every other minute.

      But the biggest issue i see in how politics are failing. I'd imagined a relative peaceful world, with smart engineered technological advances. Meanwhile we keep burning coal to waste CO2, just to mine bitcoins. Because our financial system became both big brother, unreliable and expensive. Govs like to play big brother in general. The average person is not trusted and often screwed over by the system, that itself often cannot be trusted. There is political instability even in the modern countries like France and the UK. There seem to be so much struggle that any long-time strategy is forgotten as politicians only think about their next term, not about our next generation.

      So yes, in overall, it doesn't feel the world improved a lot. Yes, there is promising technology. Yes, we can go into space and build fast computers. But the average person still works 40 hours a week for a shitty salary and a lot of stress and the average lifespan did not increase over the last 2 decades. And our food got worse. And the internet is a great invention.

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    2. Re:Mostly everything sucks. by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      Graphics are better. Security is worse. Understanding is worse. RAM is cheaper but software just wastes more of it to compensate. Same goes for CPU speed; CPUs are much faster but software is just slower to compensate.

      It's of course true that software becomes more bloated but the reason likely is that it's not worth the time to optimise it since resources are more than ample to run it at adequate speed in its bloated state. Further, despite this bloat, there is still a huge net gain for the end user. So resources more than compensate for bloat. I analyse data and it's incredibly obvious how much more I can do per unit time on a modern desktop machine compared to 10 years ago. Graphics quality in games tells a similar story. The main thing I'm hoping will improve now are IO speeds: as datasets get larger I find I'm spending most of my time on IO.

    3. Re:Mostly everything sucks. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Security is worse.

      Software is buggy now, it was buggy then. The only difference is there's now a remote connection to your PC. Security was always poor.

      RAM is cheaper but software just wastes more

      One man's waste is another man's killer feature. You also have to remember that RAM being the fastest to access device in your computer can only offer you benefits if its fully utilised. In that regard RAM isn't "wasted" if what is in it at any point needs to be accessed, regardless of how much of it gets used.

      CPUs are much faster but software is just slower to compensate.

      Software is not slower at all. It still computes at the same speed. Software may do different things, often doing far more of it, often waiting on external input (rarely the CPU), and may render the result in an eye pleasing but slower manner, but it isn't "slower". Being slow implies a faster CPU would make it run faster. That isn't the case and software hasn't been CPU constrained for years.

      Bandwidth is overpriced as fuck.

      I'm sorry but my 500mbit connection compared to my 56kbps modem which barely worked faster than 28.8 at the exact same price inflation adjusted could not disagree more.

      Dishonesty runs rampant in the industry, causing permanent erosion of the public trust.

      And despite all of my disagreements with your post, this comment here I can stand behind. This entire post is worthy of an upmod just for this sentence.

    4. Re:Mostly everything sucks. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Audio/hifi equipment is of poor quality.

      You get what you pay for. The good quality equipment is still very much available if you ever wish to not paying Chinese import prices for it.

  14. kid/teen who loved sci-fi in 1970s by iggymanz · · Score: 2

    What we're missing that I imagined we'd have:

    flying cars that could hover

    holographic tv

    rotating space stations

    moon and mars colonies

    undersea cities

    fusion power

    cure for cancers and viral diseases

    cures for genetic diseases

    mind/computer interface

    robot to do all house chores

    no poverty

    1. Re: kid/teen who loved sci-fi in 1970s by r2kordmaa · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Rotating space station almost happened, unfortunately it ended up rusting at a parking lot in Japan. NASA was paying for it, but ran out of money and couldn't schedule Shuttle flights. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    2. Re: kid/teen who loved sci-fi in 1970s by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      while there are protoype holographic television systems they are not in common use.

      a couple cars that have attachments to make them airplanes are not flying cars for the masses.

      we have no fusion power plants nor the technical means to make them with any amount of money. ITER (which is not a power producing design) might not even work.

      there has never been a space station that rotates to produce artificial gravity

      people die or are maimed by cancers that are incurable

      we don't have cure for flu or the common cold, much less other viral infections like herpes or AIDS. Yes we have vaccinations for influenza that are 60%+ effective or mitigate the intensity of the disease.... but we're still stuck with waves of the disease going around the world and killing half a million a year.

      we can't fix common genetic diseases let alone the rarer ones

      we do not have a robot that does household chores. a roomba won't rake leaves, dust shelves and tops of frames/cabinets, scrub the bathroom or cook dinner....

    3. Re: kid/teen who loved sci-fi in 1970s by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      please stop repeating that urban legend that comes from misleading hype articles.

      No fusion reactor has gone anywhere near breakeven. People misunderstand the Joint European Torus firing of making 16 MW from an input of 24 MW of heating.....they totally ignore the total input of 800 MW of electrical power. That's right, two percent the input power produced and of course that couldn't be captured for any practical power generation.

    4. Re: kid/teen who loved sci-fi in 1970s by terrycarlino · · Score: 1

      We will always have poverty. I say that as someone who has worked with people and institution who work with people in poverty.

      It's great to think that you can alleviate poverty by giving poor people money but that just doesn't work. Some people just make bad decisions. Give then enough money to live on and they spend it on drugs(include the legal one alcohol) and then don't have it for food or housing. Give them housing they tear it up. Give them money for food (like EBT cards) and they trade on a black market for stuff like cigarettes, booze and drugs.

      I'm not saying everyone who is in poverty does this, just that there will always be a percentage that does. The trick is always to determine who can be helped and help them and determine who won't allow themselves to be help and figure out how to make sure they don't die on the streets.

      It's not a technology problem. At some level it's not even a social problem, because you really can't force people to save themselves if they don't want to, not without a much more tyrannical government than most people are willing to put up with.

  15. Mixed bag by ka9dgx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Computers are pretty damned fast and cheap compared to the days of the 1 MIPS $3000 IBM PC with 3 360k floppy disks and a monochrome monitor. The rise of Arduino and Raspberry Pi make it possible to stick computing in almost anything for less than $20, and in some cases under a buck!

    Bandwidth is far MORE expensive than I predicted... I expected full duplex gigabit for $50/month by now... it amazes me that cable TV is still a dominant way of delivering data to the masses. I predicted that you'd be able to have a full duplex video feed (Facetime anyone) between any 2 points in the world for $50/month.... we never made it.

    Operating Systems are now far LESS reliable and secure than the days of MS-DOS. You could always write protect your OS disk, and easily make copies of it. You could trust copies to work years later, and everyone understood how to make them. You didn't have to worry about your hardware getting bricked.

    Video and Cameras are amazing, I had no idea how cool things could get.

    Wireless / Cellular networks are way better than I expected, but again the monopoly pricing structures are weird.

    There are lots of cool surprises, Wikis, Blogging, Video Sharing, Podcasts, Ebay, Amazon, 3d printers and milling machines for cheap. Open source software and hardware,

    1. Re:Mixed bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      >I expected full duplex gigabit for $50/month by now.

      You can get this in lots of other countries (Japan, Korea, Eastern European former Soviet Republics..etc)

      The issue with that is not technical, but corruption..

    2. Re:Mixed bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Lol implying Japan isn't corrupt.

      Actually internet speeds are slower in the United States due to lower population density.

    3. Re:Mixed bag by TeknoHog · · Score: 2

      Finland has a pretty low population density, and I think we're doing pretty well with our internets. Of course, there's always going to be a cabin in the woods with lousy signal, and the overall pop density doesn't mean much when you look at urban areas.

      A friend of mine had gigabit service at home in 2003, though I recall it was one of the test sites of an ISP. I can currently have GbE at home for 60 eur/month, but I have no need for those speeds. Instead, I pay 5 eur for 50/10 Mbit, and I can still enjoy the stability of Ethernet instead of having to deal with crappy modems.

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    4. Re:Mixed bag by dargaud · · Score: 1

      Cars kind of feel boring, but if we're honest the modern car is miles ahead of anything we knew in the 1970s. No flying cars however. No hover cars. And the monorails are terrible. We still haven't cured cancer yet!

      I find you unnecessarily harsh. We have electric cars and cars that drive themselves. There are also crazy serial cars that reach 400kph. And one that's reached 1000mph. There are several flying car prototypes waiting for legal approval, but granted, the average joe will never afford them. As for the trains, France and Japan have trains that cruise above 200mph. And 75% of cancers are now cured (more for certain types or if caugh early). Many people have had 2 or 3 serious cancers over decades and a good quality of life most of the time, a huge improvement over the 70s...

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    5. Re:Mixed bag by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      No hover cars.

      Well, we have hover boards* and androids**. We also have works of popular culture that are invariably termed "epic", despite not being millennia-old heroic tales of the fate of a nation. Today is all about image, not actual technological achievements.

      *(They don't actually hover, it's just a marketing slogan.)
      **(Mass surveillance devices posing as portable telephones. Named after the nickname of a guy and nothing to do with actual human-like robots, yet the company has threatened to sue an actual robotics company for using a similar name.)

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    6. Re:Mixed bag by joe_frisch · · Score: 1

      Computers are very fast in terms of quantitative performance metrics, but I think are less capable of doing useful things that we expected 40 years ago. Probably that is because things like AI turned out to be far harder than most people expected.

    7. Re:Mixed bag by sg_oneill · · Score: 1

      Don't confuse "Cured" with "In remission". The vast majority of people who beat a serious cancer, are really just in remission, hopefully indefinately, as the fault in the genetics occasionally are heritable and widespread and waiting for whatever trigged them to go haywire all over again (This is why its a seriously smart idea to get a double masectomy for breast cancer even if the doc thinks its unnecessary. No titty tissue = no titty tissue cancer!).

      Regardless theres still a few cancers that are common and have terrible survival rates, notably lung and liver cancers (Lungs because those motherfuckers spread like lightning and even small amounts of lung damage can be life threatening, Liver cancers because they tend to stay hidden until its too late and they've eaten half your internals. The diagnosis to death timetable can be horrifcally short on both of those (With exceptions)

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  16. Hell yes it is! by ITRambo · · Score: 2

    I have a 65" 4k TV that is as close to 1970's sci-fi as I could imagine. My LG K8 (bottom of the barrel) smartphone can let me have two way conversations with people that speak languages that I don't, using Microsoft Translate. Space X lands stage one rockets, and reuses them. I stream TV without commercials. I could go on and on, but won't. Man, the future is great!

  17. Re:Yes by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Would you have liked to see decades of desktop computing stay with Commodore, Amiga, Dragon, Sinclair, Thomson AC?
    Minitel stay as the internet AC?

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  18. The tech is cool by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    The stuff behind the tech is a mess. I figured we'd have the software engineering thing figured out by now, but we've regressed. The COBOL programmers have taken over, or as Dijkstra said, people who have been permanently brain damaged as programmers (that is, it works once on their desk, so that's good enough, release it. Then they wonder why their bug tracker is full).

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    1. Re:The tech is cool by Miamicanes · · Score: 2

      Dijkstra was ahead of his time, mostly because he was preaching about concerns that were mostly anal-retentive academic non-issues on the computers computer science majors in the 80s and 90s were familiar with.

      On a computer like the Commodore 64, or even an Amiga 500, a program that hijacks the interrupts and takes control is lord and god of its environment. "Works for me" IS good enough, because there aren't many ways it MIGHT work differently on anybody else's identical hardware.

      When you fast forward to computers where SMP is the norm, weak memory models are common, and concurrent programming is required... Dijkstra was downright visionary and totally right.

      Simply put, you can get away with a lot of shit on a computer where your code is the only thing running and the hardware is mostly identical to everyone else's that you CAN NOT get away with in a multithreaded program that attempts to use a GPU to do realtime calculations in a preemptively-multitasking operating system on a platform with a weak memory model.

      Put another way... stuff like this seemingly-innocent Java example generally works fine on a PC with a single-core CPU running Windows 9x (despite having always been officially taboo), but REALLY goes down in flames if you leave it as-is, but run it on a computer with a dual/quad-core CPU, because there's no guarantee that a second thread won't arrive, see that myFoo is no longer null & return and attempt to use it before the first thread finishes CREATING the new Foo object: (google: "double-checked locking")

      public static Foo getFoo() {
              if (myFoo == null) {
                      myFoo = new Foo();
              }
              return myFoo;
      }

  19. I just turned 50. Hell yes. by seoras · · Score: 2

    It's a relative question isn't it? If you are in your 20's then you probably aren't that impressed or not as much as I am.
    Strange to think a CD is antiquated now.
    As a teenager a Walkman was hi-tech.
    Now I can stream music wirelessly from my watch to little buds in my ear.
    My phone knows my face and I can ask it to turn on music in any room in my house.
    I can video chat with my mother on the other side of the planet in high definition video and audio.
    Yet with the car industry we're still driving the same shitty combustion engined machines we did as a kid.
    The electronics and safety are better.
    What happened to the big dreams of space exploration?
    Oh yeah, that's right, we decided it was more important to turn our tech on deep sea exploration for hydro carbons to power those shitty combustion engines.

    1. Re:I just turned 50. Hell yes. by zidium · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In this article, every single person born in the 1970s or before says YES!! Esp the guy who loves his TV!

      Every single person born from 1980 onwards except maybe one person says NO WAY!, including me.

      I was part of the internet revolution of the late-90s early-2000s. Things went to shit circa 2006 and never recovered. Just gotten worse and worse and worse.

      I had hope with The Snowden Revelations of 2012, but nothing happened so now I'm just exceptionally apathetic.

      I'm really starting to believe that Gates, Zuckerberg, et. al. maybe are just figureheads for enslavement tech released by the deep state. Have YOU ever tried to innovate and seen how fucking hard it is to get your product seen?!

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    2. Re:I just turned 50. Hell yes. by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I’m in my fifties, and I think the most useful tech from a practical point of view is live, GPS-enabled maps. I used to drive around with a Thomas Guide on the passenger seat... but no more.

      Not very sexy, I must admit.

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    3. Re:I just turned 50. Hell yes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Strange to think a CD is antiquated now.

      And yet you can still buy them. I buy all of my music on CD (including new releases) because what is truly antiquated is the concept of privacy. I don't have to worry about being tracked when I pop my CD into my circa 1990s CD player. Oh, and both cassette and vinyl sales saw double-digit growth last year. You were saying about antiquated?

      Yet with the car industry we're still driving the same shitty combustion engined machines we did as a kid.

      Those "shitty" combustion engines have 10x the safety, 2-5x better gas mileage (hybrids), and last 200,000 miles or more if you take care of them. And you can still buy an inexpensive new car for around the same price I paid for one almost 15 years ago. Slightly used cars remain a good deal no matter what decade.

      As far as EV evolution, there are many models of electric vehicles, which are also some of the fastest in the world and can travel hundreds of miles on a single charge with battery packs that can last a decade. A charging infrastructure is now nationwide across the US. WE have a CHOICE to drive a "shitty" combustion engine now.

      What happened to the big dreams of space exploration? Oh yeah, that's right, we decided it was more important to turn our tech on deep sea exploration for hydro carbons to power those shitty combustion engines.

      No, war happened (and continues today). Then the cold war happened, which saw most of our space exploration funds go no further than our own orbit as we spent trillions to spy on the planet.

    4. Re:I just turned 50. Hell yes. by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's more insidious than a deep state. They actually do this stuff right out in the open, but then they compromise education (mostly by not funding it, but also through other means) to produce low-information voters who will support them anyway. Talk about a race to the bottom.

      Things are turning out exactly how I thought they would as a teenager. Lots of cool new tech, used to subjugate the people.

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    5. Re:I just turned 50. Hell yes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      1970s nerd here. No way for me, too.

      The computer tech is quite cool, but I imagined some freaky massive multiprocessor thing built on non-silicon substrates and perhaps using photons to process. CPU speed has pretty much plateaued, mobile will still improve for a few more years then?

      Also thought that medical science would improve, but that's really only happened slightly. People nowadays are unhealthy in so many ways it boggles the mind. Meanwhile working medical treatments like antibiotics are starting to fail. No genetically engineered organ replacements, cancer is still a bitch, more people are mentally ill now. Add in obesity etc. Not good.

      Space is disappointing. No moon base, no manned Mars missions, no factories in space to cut pollution.

      The Internet is a horrid dystopian hellscape with some good bits. Too much spying, too much crap running on pages, too many ads, annoying as shit page changes between mobile ("Open this page in the app!" - no, fuck off) and desktop, massive fraud, social networking contagion effects increasing weird behaviour in society and so on.

      Robots? Umm, some progress there but nothing like imagined. Roombas are cool and all but not fundamentally that far removed from this little bloke

      Drones? Yeah again, not that far removed from this 1970s device

      No cities under the sea.

      No fusion.

      Still burning shit for 95% of our energy. Solar is cool, but we had solar-powered watches and calculators 30+ years ago.

      Now most of us are reliant on operating systems as adware/spyware rather than robust & designed to efficiently run programs.

      So the TLDR; glad Moore's Law has kept going, but pretty much everything else is a bit crap.

    6. Re:I just turned 50. Hell yes. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      "You guys are always getting pissed and say "THEY" but you then act like you don't understand that "they" is actually "YOU" because you conservatives are the ones who did all that defunding bullshit you're bitching about."

      What are you on about? I'm so far to the left you can't even see me past all the Democrats from where you're sitting.

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    7. Re:I just turned 50. Hell yes. by strikethree · · Score: 1

      In this article, every single person born in the 1970s or before says YES!! Esp the guy who loves his TV!

      Every single person born from 1980 onwards except maybe one person says NO WAY!, including me.

      Hey bud. I know these statements seem true to you, but they are not. I was born before 1980 and I feel like tech has been held in a stasis field of some sort.

      In the 90s, I had some pretty deep and high quality education given to me concerning electricity, transistors, circuits, and such. Once I had some understanding of those subjects, I had some really awesome ideas, but realized that laws and fear would stop a lot of the ideas from ever being fully implemented.

      An example: I designed a "ball" that I could toss into a room and it would measure everything in the room using various EM frequencies. Apparently, a couple years ago, someone finally implemented this (in a far more limited mode) and it is sold to police and special forces as a tool to use during hostage situations or clearing out houses.

      I wanted to use it to suck the data into a computer so it could be used for many different purposes. Creating virtual environments, mapping out existing architecture, creating map levels for Doom, etc etc etc.

      I also came up with some pretty interesting ideas using radio waves for communication purposes... but the frequencies I "needed" to use were all restricted. Bluetooth? lol. I was a decade ahead and had far more capabilities.

      It is weird. It is like the world as a whole is limited to what one person, probably 80 years old now, sees as possible and reasonable. Everything else is either suppressed or hidden away because this one person thinks it is not viable or possible. The sense of it being a single person is overwhelmingly strong.

      Microsoft alone has held back/slowed down any advances in general computing. In some ways, they have actually reversed progress itself. That is how strong their stranglehold is. But this is just one small symptom supporting my premise above.

      TL;DR, advancement is being held in a stasis field where very few things actually escape from.

      Kurzweil is unable to see this stasis field and is confused about why his Singularity has not happened yet. Dude, let me tell you something, your fucking Singularity is never going to happen unless you do it yourself... and you seem incapable of making it happen, so stop talking about the Singularity. It will not happen in your lifetime. The log jam has to be cleared first... but, if it is a single 80 year old person, time may clear that log jam soon... but if that person is like Queen Elizabeth, you may have many decades yet to go.

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    8. Re:I just turned 50. Hell yes. by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      What happened to the big dreams of space exploration?

      Those dreams came from people who either bought into the propaganda, or who were generally clueless of the economics to start with. In reality, we're doing flat out amazing things with space exploration, only we're doing 'em unmanned because that's much easier, cheaper, and sensible than sending fragile meatbags.

  20. I thought I would have more friends by pinkushun · · Score: 1

    Turns out that prediction fell through, answer: No, technology is not as cool as I wanted it.

  21. Yeah, why didn't we get Occam anyway? by presidenteloco · · Score: 1

    Serial processing speeding up so much that no-one thought easy parallel programs were worth the bother?

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    1. Re:Yeah, why didn't we get Occam anyway? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Serial processing speeding up so much that no-one thought easy parallel programs were worth the bother?

      No. We have plenty of parallelism in modern computing, with threading, multiple cores, GPGPU, and clusters. The problem is that Occam used the wrong model: Private memory and slow interconnects based on message passing. What happened in the actual future timeline was symmetric multiprocessing with shared memory, and even shared L3 cache.

    2. Re:Yeah, why didn't we get Occam anyway? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      The problem is that Occam used the wrong model: Private memory and slow interconnects based on message passing.

      To me, there's no clear indication that this is "the wrong model". That's basically a distributed actor architecture. We may still be forced to do just that one day.

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  22. Social networks by peppepz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In the 90s I thought that the internet was a cool new frontier, opening up endless opportunities for the betterment of mankind. Nowadays I mostly think that it's a means of mass espionage that turns people into assholes.

    1. Re:Social networks by zidium · · Score: 4, Funny

      What happened was that sometime in the mid-to-late 2000s, young women started using social media in droves.

      This has killed not only the Internet but plummeted birth rates and is destroying / has destroyed an entire generation or two or three of women.

      We geeks should have never allowed this to happen! If the Internet were still our geek bastion, then the entire world would be much better off!

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    2. Re: Social networks by peppepz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Another sign of the times is that back in the old days, it would have been obvious to me that your reply was sarcastic. Nowadays I can't be so sure ;-) .

    3. Re:Social networks by peppepz · · Score: 1

      Nah, people were always assholes. It's just that the Internet, once it became mainstream enough for anyone to use, basically brought those assholes into the mix and allowed them to mingle with others on a global scale.

      Try this experiment: pick on this very same site a story from the late 90s, and give a look at the comment section. Compare it to the comment section of a contemporary article. Tell me if you notice a difference.

  23. Nuclear fusion power by presidenteloco · · Score: 1

    Still 25 years away, always.

    Except in Canada we have a company doing it that's only 5 years away, always.

    Also, I hoped people in general would have more of a f**king clue by now. About empirical, verifiable reality, you know? About how to think better. But no-o-o-o!
    It's a good thing the machines are going to be thinking for us soon, cause on average, "we're stupid and we'll die."

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    1. Re:Nuclear fusion power by sfcat · · Score: 1

      Still 25 years away, always. Except in Canada we have a company doing it that's only 5 years away, always.

      You guys are 5 years away from having materials that can harness 1,000,000C heat efficiently? Really? I want in on that...

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      "Those that start by burning books, will end by burning men."
    2. Re: Nuclear fusion power by presidenteloco · · Score: 1

      1000000 degrees but not very dense, so not much energy per burst.
      They want to use a spinnning sphere of liquid lead to absorb the heat, pumping the lead around a loop surrounded by water/steam pipes.

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    3. Re:Nuclear fusion power by drewlake2000 · · Score: 1

      We have a radio programme in this country called "Infinite Monkey Cage". One of the presenters is Brian Cox (the scientist not the actor.) Just this week they were discussing the future of humanity. The other presenter (Robin Ince, geeky comedian) said to Brian something along the lines of "You've learnt a lot over the years haven't you Brian. You used to think that if you gave people enough data they'd reject astrology and such bunk". No matter how simple the explanation someone is going to believe the wrong answer. Religions are still making a shit load of money.

  24. Cooler than I expected, but not the same at all... by WaywardGeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm an Air Force brat. In 1969.I watched with my family as Neil Armstrong took the first steps on the moon. That was an OMG moment, which set unfulfilled expectations for years to come. Instead of OMG moments, we've had a steady advance in tech, better every year, but never with an OMG moment like that.

    So, I'm disappointed that I cannot vacation on Mars. At the same time, the steady tech revolution has changed the world far more than most of us would have thought possible.

    In 1982, I took a philosophy class at UC Berkeley. For my final project, I predicted when the AI singularity would occur. My hypothesis was that we sim[y lacked the compute power, and when we had enough such that for $1M in 1982 dollars, any mainstream university could afford a neural network with the same capacity as a human brain, then some a-hole would come along and program it to actually be intelligent.

    I predicted, based on Moore's Law, 2025....

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  25. No by NfoCipher · · Score: 1

    Just.. no..

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  26. Technology yes, how it's used no by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Today's world is fabulous technologically speaking. I remember MIT's first attempts at self-driving cars in the 80s. I worked on one of the first telephone with voice recognition (it sort of recognized 10 digits after hours of training). I dreamed of a portable computer I could take with me everywhere, and being forever-connected to the rest of the world.

    Now all these things are a reality, and so ubiquitous people feel the need to wonder if they're cool on Slashdot!

    What I didn't expect is the reasons why these technologies came about: as I kid, I thought research was done to better humanity, and give more people access to education. Wrong! It's done to squeeze money out of people and put them under surveillance. It's also used by religious crazies, conspiracy theorists, and to post videos of cats.

    In short, all these mavellous things have been invented for nefarious purposes, and used mostly by an ever-dumber population. That's a letdown...

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    1. Re:Technology yes, how it's used no by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      What I didn't expect is the reasons why these technologies came about: ... to post videos of cats.

      An early milestone in computing was the Jacquard Loom, which was essentially a way to print digital images, including the inventor's selfie. Since then we've gone a full circle and ended up staring at our own asses on Instagram.

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  27. 2001 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't say that it is.

  28. Re:Yes by shess · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The free and open internet was great while it lasted.

    Did not expect the virtue signalling, SJW, censorship, shadow banning, reporting, account removal, payment processor problems the internet would have.

    That side of political control for speech on the internet was something out of Communist nations.

    I didn't see that people would actually be getting killed by swatting, that doxing would be a thing, that people would make an avocation out of hounding others to suicide ... and yet others would get un-self-consciously self-righteous about virtue signalling and the terrible problem of the scary SJW.

    [I mean, seriously, you're virtue signalling by complaining about virtue signalling? No shit?]

  29. Yes and No by imperious_rex · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In some ways, it is cooler in ways that I couldn't have imagined. By 1990 when I was 23, I knew at some point music and movie media would move beyond the optical disc, but I believed it would be in the form of cheap high capacity ROM chipped cartridges the size of a matchbook that would be bought in a store. I didn't think of data compression or high speed online distribution or streaming. I knew computer hardware and software would continue to get faster, cheaper, and better but I didn't envision tablets and smartphones arriving so soon.When I was caught up in the excitement of our digital utopia envisioned by magazines such as Mondo 2000 and the new Wired mag, I looked forward to our bright and glorious digital future.

    But now, 25 years later, the digital age looks far more like Brazil/1984 than anything found in Disney's Tomorrowland. Privacy is practically dead, free speech is practically dead as one has to practice self-censorship to avoid wrathful social media mobs, hardware and software are rife with vulnerabilities, toxic mountains of obsolete hardware, ubiquitous surveillance thanks to better cameras and cheaper/greater storage capacity, identity theft via hacks of centralized financial and business databases, and a myriad of nuisances one could never have imagined (pop-up ads, spam, click bait, fake news, bots, phishing, etc.). It all makes me yearn for the days of 8- or 16-bit computing and BBSs. Things may have been slower and less convenient then, but it was also safer and saner.

    1. Re:Yes and No by siege72 · · Score: 1

      By 1990 when I was 23, I knew at some point music and movie media would move beyond the optical disc, but I believed it would be in the form of cheap high capacity ROM chipped cartridges the size of a matchbook that would be bought in a store.

      You weren't too far off the mark. The "SD" in SD cards is "Secure Digital" - they were designed with DRM for content distribution. That never caught on, and they became on of the standards for removable storage.

  30. Mixed bag by sg_oneill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Computers have evolved beyond I think anyones wildest expectations. We have seriously star trek level machines in the palms of our hands. And holy shit the internet.

    Space travel has been a *major* disapointment. Hopefully this push to mars gets us back on track, but its like we hit the moon, got some space station action happening aaaaand then had 30-40 years of lost years.

    Cars kind of feel boring, but if we're honest the modern car is miles ahead of anything we knew in the 1970s. No flying cars however. No hover cars. And the monorails are terrible.

    We still haven't cured cancer yet!

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  31. Re:Kids aren't jaded yet. by zidium · · Score: 1

    Have you even bothered to talk to tweens or teens of today?!

    They are JADED AS FUCK and usually have NO OPTIMISM in even their own near futures, and usually have never even thought of what the world will be in like in 20 years.

    Seriously.

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  32. Better than expected! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The shear level of computation power and memory that we have access to is mind blowing.

    The dystopian aspects regarding technology are also way higher than expected. People may see this as a negative but I see it as an opportunity for knowledgeable programmers and hackers. Yes, it is true that our collective commercial technology is "a massive flaming pile of trash that I really don't want to deal with" but nobody is forcing you to use it. Nobody is forcing you on social media, nobody is forcing you to have a "smart" phone/tv/house/etc and yet so many do. For those of us who recognize how awful these things are and have the discipline to avoid them, it's a great opportunity to have fun.

    But OMFG, how is it that Cisco still makes routers that have shit security? I mean, you had one job and it's a serious train wreck. I honestly thought their stuff would be impenetrable by now. Also, I'm still baffled as to how everyone thought Systemd was a great idea. I think either Red Hat bought off a bunch of people or they are way dumber then I give them credit for.

    TL;RD: the cyberpunk present does not disappoint in that everything is entirely hackable.

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  33. Looking back 50 years... by Ozoner · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Pluses:

    My particular interest is Radio, and a good SDR (NetSDR+ with SDRConsole) is vastly more capable than the best radio (even military grade) of even thirty years ago.

    Computers are much faster and cheaper than was expected, although our operating systems are stil very poor.
    (Windows and Linux have been way out-paced by the developments in hardware).

    The Internet has brought an astounding improvement in the access to information for most people.

    Cars are much better (and cheaper) than we expected, and the coming EVs will result in an even greater step forward.

    The Minuses:

    It shocks me how badly our standard of living has deteriorated:
    Economic Equality is utterly broken:
    Employment conditions and rewards have greatly deteriorated.
    The decline of Consumer Rights, Public Transport, Education, and Medical Insurance are an outrage.
    And the cost (and quality) of housing is now shameful.

  34. Self-driving cars by cerberusss · · Score: 1

    What I didn't expect from "Today's Tech", is that we'd have self-driving cars. My child is in pre-school right now. There's a good change they might be able to get there driver's license, but that there'll be hardly any need to use it.

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  35. Re:phones by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    Heinlein had them in "Space cadet" in the late 40s. Clarke had them in "Imperial Earth" in 1976.

    Also: Cheste Gould's Dick Tracy used his two-way wrist radio starting in 1946 (and a similar device showed up in a story arc on the Superman radio show the same year). It was upgraded with video in 1964.

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  36. Well...no by joe_frisch · · Score: 1

    Can I have intelligent conversations with my computer: no (no HAL 9000)

    Are there regular commercial flights to the moon, and a permanent base on Mars? no. I can't even fly in a supersonic passenger plane anymore.

    Fusion reactors? No. Flying cars? No. Undersea cites: No. Humanoid robots helping me round the house: no.

    We have fallen far short of what was predicted when I was young. Of course that may be because the predictions were crazy, not because we have in some way failed.

    My feeling is that we failed at space. The other things turned out to be harder than we expected.

  37. My biggest miss was replacement organs. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

    My biggest miss was replacement organs - especially teeth. In about 1958 I expected implanted replacement adult tooth buds, far better than drilling-and-filling, to be available by about 1978 (when I might start to want them myself).

    Now it's a half century after the prediction. Fillings have drastically improved and I have a couple titanium implants. But serious work on replacement organs is just getting under way.

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  38. Yes by Miamicanes · · Score: 2

    Yes. Back when I was in college, I would have literally KILLED for the kind of computer, phone, and wireless 24/7/365 connectivity I now take for granted & have anxiety attacks without. And I say that as someone who HAD a 1200-baud modem in 1986, and spent the summer after 10th grade staying up all night using PC-Pursuit to connect to bulletin board systems around the world for free at a point in time when a long-distance call to a BBS a hundred miles away cost approximately $15-20/hour, and even fsck'ing QuantumLink cost around $2.50/hour.

    The past 10-15 years have been kind of a disappointment in the PC realm, but even circa 2002 when I was playing with my shiny new PalmOS phone, I wouldn't have dared to fantasize about being able to use a service like Youtube as a free music streaming service (ignoring the videos) while driving across the Florida Everglades, let alone play 3D videogames and use it as a 2160x1440 display host for virtual reality software. On the other hand, if you'd told me in 2001 that circa 2010, the display market would be totally stagnated around 1920x1080 monitors and it would take literally YEARS to get back up above the kind of resolution available on a $4,000 2002-era Thinkpad (1920x1600), I would have thought you were kidding.

    Ditto, for storage. If you'd told me in 1990 that someday, a MOUSE DRIVER would have approximately 200 megabytes worth of files... and that I wouldn't care, because my computer had a 2-terabyte hard drive, a 1-terabyte removable hard drive in the optical bay, and another 512gb that was like a persistent ramdisk performance-wise, I would have thought you were utterly and completely insane.

    CPU-wise, I'd have to say yes and no. In 1988, a 1-GHz 2002 CPU would have seemed like science fiction. In 2002, a 4GHz CPU would have seemed like a sick joke, even when you account for cores, cache, and overall performance.

    In terms of keyboards, computers have totally gone to shit. Even Thinkpad keyboards suck compared to the keyboards they USED to have 20 years ago, and suck even MORE compared to the literal low-profile clicky keyboards early-90s high-end laptops used to have. Modern mice are a billion times better than the mice we had in 1990, but I'd take a thumb trackball (with modern optical sensor instead of rollers) over a flat touchpad any day, unhesitatingly. I LIKED thumb trackballs like the one on the DEC HiNote Ultra, and didn't mind first-generation touchpads that emulated thumb trackballs. I absolutely DESPISE modern touchpads (which are designed for people who can't type, and who use them with their index fingers, as opposed to people who keep their hands over the keyboard and try using the touchpad with their thumb).

    I miss resistive touchscreens. Capacitive touchscreens are handy for detecting blunt touches, but resistive touchscreens with real DSPs were a thousand times better for things like Graffiti. To this day, I have yet to use a non-rooted Android phone whose CPU governor isn't disabled that's capable of doing Graffiti as accurately as a 16MHz Palm Pilot III.

    IMHO, the industry abandoned IrDA long before it had a good replacement... and waited WAY too long to replace 1.44mb floppies with just about anything that was better (Zip drives and LS-120 were too little, too late... but LS-120 would have totally rocked back in 1992, even if they'd only been 25-50mb/disk).

    Space exploration? Meh... and yeah. Elementary-school me (late 70s, pre-shuttle) would have been thoroughly unimpressed by today's space program. The entire shuttle era just seemed lame and anticlimactic. My first sentient thoughts regarding space travel involved watching men walking on the moon... and thinking it was a totally normal daily occurrence (because for someone who was born after the first Apollo mission, but was old enough TO remember seeing the final ones live on TV, it WAS a totally normal daily occurrence)... and it seemed like everything NASA did after I finally got to kindergarten was just a step down.

    On the other hand, the past

  39. No by gweihir · · Score: 1

    It is mostly boring and suffers from the same problems as back then, with some really serious ones in addition.

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  40. The good that came true! The unexpected bad, too! by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 1

    ANTICIPATED: Handheld computers and wireless data.
    EXPECTED: An almost 100% sure thing we'd get there.
    UNEXPECTED: That same technology that was supposed to be our tool to free us and make us better is used by default to track us, monetize us, maintain and resell portofolios on us.
    DISAPPOINTED: The success of the cell phone and tablet effectively kills other pieces of dedicated or unique hardware implementations (MP3 player, a physical chess set that you can play against another friend anywhere in the world, etc).
    ALSO DISAPPOINTED: How freely the common person would cash in their privacy for free services.

    HOPED FOR: That "everyone" would finally be online and that you could do real things (and significant things) online.
    EXPECTED: More individuals connecting with even more individuals.
    UNEXPECTED: Reaching the tipping point where you're expected to be online or you can't access some desired information. (My offline parents complain about this quite regularly.)

    SKEPTICAL: My dad telling me (circa 1980) that computer graphics would be good enough one day to make cartoons just as good as I see on TV. Even further in the future, maybe even something that might look like real life!
    UNEXPECTED: Just how far we've surpassed even that dream of believable computer graphics in standard definition and in real time.

    PROMISED: Useful and interactive household robots.
    DISAPPOINTED: Roomba and a few small toys.

    PROMISED: Television will keep getting better and better.
    EXPECTED: High quality and lower cost hardware.
    DISAPPOINTED: Everyday "broadcast quality" video quality has improved, but not as much as I'd thought.

  41. I actually expected a lot of things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A cure for obesity that is easier than diet, excercise and surgery.
    Linux on the desktop. Using Linux since 2001, but Gnome 3 and SystemD fucked it up big time.
    Ubquitious net neutral uncapped uncensored internet anywhere in the world. All the major networks are going to fuck up 5G.
    Firefox and other browsers getting rid of Internet Explorer. Yet it was replaced by Chrome which is worse as it is ran by an adverising and spying company.
    A universal source of knowledge that would replace expensive universities and schools. Yet wikipedia is full of reverting pov pushers and lots of useful knowledge is deleted as “not noable”.
    A DRM free universal streamng service. But copyright trolls won’t let us have nice things.

  42. One correct prediction by Ashtead · · Score: 2

    Back around 1979-1980, I was talking with my mother about the various minicomputers that were available; I was using a PR1ME at the college, and she had some kind of HP equipment (HP3500 ?) at work. Some of the early home computers running BASIC were available, but it was already obvious that these things were like toys compared with the multi-processing and multi-user big iron. Considering how much larger and complicated programs could be made in FORTRAN, compared with the line-number BASIC of the time, I speculated, that some day, we would have small home computers that could run the same kind of FORTRAN programs.

    She said she thought that was unlikely.

    As few years later PCs became powerful enough to actually be able to do this (PC/AT, with the 80286 running Xenix). And these days, there are the pocket-sized Raspberry Pi, Rock 64, and others, that are more powerful than all that large hardware from the 1970s.

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  43. Re:phones by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nobody predicted the modern smart phone.

    Mark Weiser predicted the smart phone (and the tablet) in 1988, and also predicted much of the technology that would make them work. He coined the term Ubiquitous computing.

    He was a visionary (and a coding wizard). Unfortunately he died in 1999, so never got to see his complete vision fulfilled. RIP Mark.

  44. De-Evolution by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Programming typical internal CRUD apps got harder, not easier. I don't know why, but it just takes more lines of code and typing to do the same stuff as the 90's.

    There are tools and stack tunings that can perhaps approach it, but most* managers won't approve such; it's not "in style". Face it, people, style and fucked-up web "standards" are fucking CRUD productivity in the bum. It may make other tasks or domains better, but not CRUD. One bad size fits all?

    I had Jetsons-like tools, but industrial insanity yanked them away from my cold productive hands. They were cold because I didn't have to type/click so damned much to get a decent app.

    Git off my slow-growing lawn!

    * Yes, a few shops allow it, but they are rare. So don't reply just to say how great your exception is. It's okay to say why they are great with details.

  45. Complete devolution by UnConeD · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No. Hardware evolved at an insane pace, with every new generation exponentially faster and more capable. Software was exciting too. You could download some warez and open up a whole new realm of possibility. Data could be stored and converted into various common file formats and exchanged using open protocols.

    Now if it's not mobile crapware it's infested with trackers and trojans, and software compatibility is so poor that the most common way of sharing something is to turn it into a noisy JPEG. Everything still superficially speaks the same protocol, but it's just used to wrap ad-hoc formats and ill-defined APIs that can change without notice. If you can even get at the raw data at all.

    Instead of tricorders we got shitty selfie-tablets that can't last a day without a recharge. Instead of empowerment and distributed networking, we got nanny admins and centralization. Instead of a rich medium for computation, we got a kitchen sink of broken ideas, so convoluted it requires a monopolisti company to farm the collective attention of the world in order to pay for its upkeep.

    Cyberpunk dystopia is here, and it wants you to like and subscribe.

  46. I thought we'd be further along... by Powercntrl · · Score: 2

    ...in the fields of battery and medical technology. Yeah, modern smartphones can do some amazing stuff, but playing Pokemon Go still chews up your battery like nobody's business. Consumer UAS technology in DJI's drones is way more advanced than anything I could've imagined when I was a kid, but they're still hindered by incredibly short battery life. On the medical side, I'd have assumed we'd have a cure for HIV/AIDS by now, along with most other major diseases.

    As for the negative repercussions of today's technology, I didn't anticipate the retail apocalypse. I kind of miss being able to go to RadioShack and poke around through the parts drawers. As others have already mentioned, there's also social media making it ever-so-easy for misinformation/superstition/idiocy to spread like a plague. Even Disney's Spaceship Earth designers didn't see that one coming. If they did, the ride would end with "Putting the power of the computer in everyone's hands in hindsight, wasn't such a great idea."

    Honorable mention also goes to flying cars. I don't know why it never dawned on sci-fi writers how impractical flying cars would actually be, but they sure managed to convince quite a few of my generation that we would've had them by now. When I show people my DJI Spark, I just tell them "This is the flying car I was promised as a kid. I expected something a little larger."
     

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  47. The internet changed everything by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
    In general technological change has been much slower than people expected: where's my flying car?

    In some respects it has either stood still or gone backwards - the US and Russian space programmes being an example of both.

    But in broad terms, the direction that the future was supposed to take was defined by the HAL9000, Androids (dreaming of electric sheep) and space travel. Just about the only person who foresaw an internet-type thing was John Brunner in The Shockwave Rider and he didn't focus on one hell of a lot of its consequences.

    The only area where technology has surpassed expectations has been in electronics. Although that has been held back by the massive historical bloat and baggage that software has created. We are starting to make inroads into biological developments, though none of those are "household" products and some drugs of the future could be truly revolutionary. For the few people who will be able to afford them.

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  48. Same as you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I came into computers before I could walk. My first memories were sitting on a piano, with the lid closed, with the commodore 64 keyboard sitting on it, connected to a monitor sitting atop the piano (it was originally hooked up to the living room TV, but I didn't get to play on it at that time.)

    I got to visit a half dozen of the more than 30 computer stores in my area at the time (around 100 miles northeast of silicon valley.) It was an amazing time where there was something new and different to look at in every store. But it was also the time when computer stores started dying out. It took another 15ish years for them to fully consolidate, from small mom and pop shops peddling everything under the sun, with dozens to hundreds of different companies catering for your attention. Then it was a few dozen for each kind of product. And now it is mostly 2-3 for any component you can imagine. Only 2 major non-embedded platforms, only 3 major oses sold in stores, all corporate chains struggling to stay relevant...

    And as if they wasn't bad enough, the gut punch is that a combination of tech traitors, bros, and collective human scum have managed to coopt all this tech, taking the dystopian sci fi novels of our childhood (or even parents/grandparents childhoods) and used them as a how to manual for systematic and global oppression, rather than using it to raise all of society up to a better level.

    On the bright side I think a reckoning is coming. Maybe it will stop living in my mind and result in the mass purge needed to bring people to their senses once more. In the meanwhile the tech equivalent of breads and circuses seems to be enthralling the masses, even as they (in)voluntarily give up more and more rights, just like the Africans(soon to be Americans) and German-Jews did under their mistaken beliefs that (insert group) was either looking out for them, or only a passing fad without them rising up or emigrating quickly to avoid their inevitable enslavement.

  49. Re:phones by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

    Mark Weiser [wikipedia.org] predicted the smart phone (and the tablet) in 1988

    Alan Kay predicted it in 1968 and a few years later he was already in the process of implementing it.

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  50. Strange but true by Sqreater · · Score: 1

    Searching my mind I find I never hoped or imagined what would be for technology later in my life. Things just came when they came.

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  51. Technology turned out... by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

    ... to be a disaster because the average person is a fucking moron.

    The internet finally revealed what many of us always knew - our species is a race of god damn morons. Many of us nerds never imagind the overwhelming level of stupid that people would give up their rights to own videogame software and enable invasive and orwellian drm and enable the theft of software by Valve and other software companies.

    The average person getting internet has allowed companies to wage war on general computing at every level and now Microsoft is aiming to lock down the PC and turn it into an appliance.

    So as a comptuer nerd from the 90's... The tech future turned into a tool for theft and larceny on behalf of corporations the like this world has never seen. That microtransactions, lootboxes, gacha in videogames are even things, speaks to the subhuman level of intelligence of our entire species.

  52. Re: contemplate this by Sqreater · · Score: 2

    It is complexity that you are reacting to, a complexity that is growing by leaps and bounds. I believe your discontent represents the growing disgust with the time and effort and loss of control that people are feeling in every area of their lives today. I believe there must eventually be a "complexity collapse," where people shed complexity and embrace simplicity. This may be a major part of the movement away from cable and to the internet: more control over the level of complexity in their lives. Think about what cable has become and the hoops that must be jumped through to deal with it. It isn't only about cost.

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  53. I'm still waiting by divide+overflow · · Score: 1

    Where the hell is my robot dog? Aibo sucked and newer offerings still don't measure up.

  54. Yes and No by SallyBowls · · Score: 2

    Anything space related is hugely disappointing. Most things involving society are disappointing. Software in general and Windows in particular tends to be disappointing. But I can make phone calls on my watch just like Dick Tracy. I can crank my car from my watch. I can adjust the thermostat in my house from another country. I can pay for things with my watch or phone. Voice recognition and chess programs are further along than I expected. So there are certain things that now appear mundane that my younger self would find cool.

  55. Actually far less cool than it was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In the 80s we had cool technology like high bias cassette tapes and 45s and IBM PC Jrs. Nothing today even comes close to how cool those were and still are.

  56. Absolutely not... by clever_chaos · · Score: 2

    I was born in 1968, so I saw the future through Star Trek and other science fiction that showed a world where technology was a gateway to a better world. It was a way to make life better and give people a purpose. Instead, every new "innovation" is about extracting more data, or slapping people with advertising, all in an effort to make some Silicon Valley douche a billionaire. I used to dream about the future. I thought the 21st century would be this amazing time where we had tech that improved our lives, reduced human greed, and opened up a world where we could pursue the betterment of ourselves and the lives of others. I couldn't wait to see what the future would bring. Now at 50 years old, I just want to buy a cabin in the mountain and get as far from this dystopian madness as I can and try to live a simple life while people destroy the planet in a bid to make assbags like Jeff Bezos as rich as he can possibly be. The 21st Century is a crushing disappointment.

  57. Aside from the internet, not as cool by bb_matt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was looking back at some photos of New York City in the 30's - the Chrysler building. It struck me just how modern it still looks today. Photo's of gleaming cars in the show room lobby, the art deco style - it still inspires modernity. And lest we forget, the USA from the 20's saw an unprecedented rapidity of invention and innovation.

    The future had already started, long before I was born and a ton of cool stuff was being produced and would be produced in the following decades.

    I was born in the UK in 1968 and when I was a kid, it struck me just how advanced the USA was when compared to our very troubled country. There was the future, that was where all the cool stuff came from. But the UK was catching up and we got our first home brewed mass produced personal computer - the ZX80. The library up the road from me switched from paper cards to swipe cards in 1978. I had sci-fi comics and TV shows that promised an amazing future.

    Sadly, the arms race seemed to be overtaking the space race and all thoughts of a cool technological future were put abruptly on hold, as we contemplated a 3rd world war.

    But back then, I expected we'd see flying cars, jet packs, a moon base and androids. Maybe even world peace.

    The reality is, incredible marvels of technology have been produced, but they have become mostly invisible and ubiquitous.
    A great deal of it is just a series of continued improvements on existing technology.

    The single most amazing thing that was somewhat predicted in science fiction, has been the internet.

    In the grand scheme of things, 50 years is a very short time and most of the technology we have today, existed when I was born.

  58. No by Grady+Martin · · Score: 2

    No, it sucks--but not from a lack of advancement. Rather, as a child I failed to foresee the extent to which technology would be used against the common people.

  59. We do that today. We wrapped half an OS around it by raymorris · · Score: 1

    >> Private memory and slow interconnects based on message passing.

    > To me, there's no clear indication that this is "the wrong model". That's basically a distributed actor architecture. We may still be forced to do just that one day.

    We in fact do that today, private memory, slow interconnects, and pass messages. We just added more software than the old model amd re-arranged it some to work better. We call it virtualization and REST.

      Remember an operating system is defined as the software layer that abstracts the hardware and manages multiple programs running on that hardware. Most of the OS, we now call the hypervisor - it abstracts the hardware and manages the multiple programs running. We added a bit of OS to each application and called it a VM.

  60. sort of by astrofurter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I was a kid I never dreamed I would grow up to live in a cybernetic totalitarian dystopia. Yet here we are!

    Ubiquitous panoptic surveillance, for-profit global censorship, rabid financialization, actual flying robots, actual killer robots (many of which fly), algorithms and "AI" constantly evaluating every aspect of our lives... The list goes on and on.

    Sure sure, it's a boot stamping on a human face - forever But I guess maybe you could say the tech is cool.

  61. No. by jd · · Score: 2

    I predicted it would be better than in the 1970s.

    Current tech is abysmal, Windows becomes unstable merely downloading patches, Linux' legendary reliability is no more. Tech peaked in the mid to late 90s and has gone downhill since.

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  62. Re:phones - Doc Savage/The Mote in God's Eye by mykepredko · · Score: 1

    Doc Savage and his crew had individual radios that could "call" out to regular phones and were described in books written in '33-'34.

    The Mote in God's Eye describes connected smartphones/tablets.

    I'm sure there are even earlier references. The cell phone/personal communications we have today is something that "futurists" and writers have seen the need for/advantages of for a long time.

  63. When were Microsoft OSes ever stable? by mykepredko · · Score: 1

    I've been using them since DOS 1.0. NT 3.51 was the best that I can remember in terms of stability but it was a snap to break into (it was do that or fight with our IT department to install software). But I've always had to deal with applications which can break the system/violate the core functions.

    I'm reasonably happy with the current version of Ubuntu - although I guess if it were truly "stable" there would be no updates and no reason to.

    1. Re:When were Microsoft OSes ever stable? by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      although I guess if it were truly "stable" there would be no updates and no reason to.

      Right, 'cause patches/updates aren't ever about security. You're setting the bar way too fuckin' high, pal.. Programmers can't anticipate every possible attack vector. The only way anyone could release software that was 100% secure would be if it was coded by God himself.

      Who would have predicted the heartbleed attack? Well, securing against that shit required updates/patches..

      Who gives a shit if an OS runs with 100% uptime if it's as penetrable as a hooker's pussy?

  64. Yes by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    I wanted a clear flat colorful non-interlaced display with as little space between pixels as possible, with individually lit pixels and as little delay as possible when outputting a frame. We now have 4k freesync OLED and microLED displays.

    Powerful game consoles and PCs, cheap computing devices, very powerful portable devices, large HDDs and portable storage, SSDs, wireless internet, even things I didn't know I wanted but can't live without, like high tech washlets. VR is coming along and is quite cool.

  65. I live in the Future! by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 1

    Considering that, when I was growing up, I expected to be living in a post-apocalyptic world of nuclear-bomb craters and anarchy (assuming I lived at all, which didn't seem likely), the future exceeds my expectations.

    But even if we discount that particular horror, I think it's mostly better than I expected. Oh sure, there were the tales of flying cars and rocket-belts, but even as a kid I didn't expect most of that super high-tech stuff to come around in my liftime. Teleporters, talking robots and laser guns were things of the far-future, not something I would ever experience.

    Mostly, I expected the world to continue more or less the way it had been, with incremental "under-the-hood" advancements; our cars would use less gas (or maybe use hydrogen), we'd swap out nuclear fission for proper fusion, and they'd make it so our record players would never skip and scratch. We might have self-driving cars (but only on highways where they laid down special control tracks) but I'd still be driving to work every day. Constructing a building would still take a lot of brute, manual labor. Food would still come from the supermarket, and oranges would be a special treat that were only really affordable at certain times of the year. But I was fairly certain that my adult life would be pretty recognizable to myself as a child.

    And, largely, that has held true, but that's not to say there haven't been welcome changes. I would never have imagined the immense advancements in computing technology: a computer in my pocket that not only lets me talk to people anytime, anywhere, but gives me access to a huge worldwide database of information? 60" television screens so flat that against the walls they almost look like posters? Computers I can talk (and sometimes talk back) and they understand me? The ability to have almost any item shipped to me from anywhere around the world and have it in my hands the next day? All the music and movies and books I could ever want at my fingertips? Fresh blackberries in February? Things like this didn't exceed my expectations; they weren't even on the radar!

    Sure, there are some areas we've fallen short, but we're coming close and none of these hopes -like switching to fusion - were really anything that would affect me directly. If there is one major disappointment, it's that we've almost gone backwards in our space exploration; after NASA's heydays in the 60s and 70s, we all expected things to continue apace; 2001 (the movie) didn't seem so far-fetched (well, except for the talking computer, but that was just fun sci-fi). Giant space stations, bases on the moon, manned flights to Mars, Venus and Jupiter; surely all these things would be accomplished by 2020. After all, we got to the moon in 20 years, right? That space would become a nearly forgotten side-show was as inconceivable to me as my owning a handheld computer.

    Then again, I can still look up and marvel at a giant airplane that seems to hang by magic in the sky, or take a moment to appreciate that I can make light appear in my house simply by flipping a switch. I already live in a future unimaginable to my ancient forebears, with more power and knowledge at my fingertips than had even their gods. So what if I do not have a robot companion or the ability to visit Alpha Centauri; I'm still living in a high-tech wonderland and it amazes me every day.

    (That said, ask me if the political and social advancements of the world today have matched my expectations; you'll get quite a different answer. Our tech is awesome, but I expected better from us as a people).

  66. Re:phones by xeoron · · Score: 1

    We still have a ways to do what Earth Final Conflict had as a smart phone.

  67. Re:Yes by c · · Score: 1

    I didn't see that people would actually be getting killed by swatting, that doxing would be a thing, that people would make an avocation out of hounding others to suicide

    Ah... thinking back to what I remember of the BBS/hacker "scene", none of that is a surprise. In same cases it was already happening, and in other cases it's the obvious escalation you get when you unleash unsupervised, amoral, pseudo-anonymous punks on each other.

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  68. Sure by nospam007 · · Score: 2

    I already thought it was cool when I got a Hercules graphics card for my PC, which could show 80! lines of text, can you imagine?

    Also my first HP500 Color printer for 1500$ was cool as hell, much better than the near letter quality needler I had before.

    My first Postscript Laser Printer for only 12000$ was beyond bliss.

    Now people have a computer on their wrist, that checks their heartbeats, a small phone that plays music, games and videos and talks to satellites to see where it is exactly on the planet, people talk to their Bluetooth speaker and they even answer, some of them even will bring you beer if you ask them, albeit only the next day.

    Rockets come back to the place they landed 7 minutes later after they put dozens of satellites in space and electric cars can be bought that are way faster and cooler than Ferraris or Lamborghinis for a fraction of the price.

    And the young whippersnappers just think: Meh.

    And now get off my lawn.

  69. I haven't used paper in my work in years by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    it's only my coworker's insistence on dropping crap on my desk that keeps my office from being paperless. For me I hate the stuff. I can't search it. I hate holding pens and pencils and it's a huge waste of money.

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  70. Today is way cooler by Paul+Johnson · · Score: 1

    When I was in my mid teens (say around 1980) I would daydream about one day being able to afford a subscription to an electronically searchable Encyclopaedia Britannica, and maybe the electronic versions of some scientific journals too. Of course I would also need to buy a desktop computer with the graphics to display useful pictures, which would be expensive, and there would be a second phone line and a modem too. When I was at Uni a few years later there were all sorts of competing LAN standards. The idea that you could walk into a building, plug in your luggable computer and start work was a pipe dream. The idea that you might not even have to plug it in... I also did some back-of-the-envelope maths which suggested that you ought to be able to provide enough bandwidth for low grade video via a cellular network if you could afford a cell station at roughly street level in busy places and every few streets in residential areas. But that was obviously never going to be a feasible business proposition.

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  71. I couldn't have predicted by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    I was certain by the 1980's that computers were going to be a really big deal for everyone, despite only a tiny fraction of people in my neighborhood owning one. But I never could have predicted that people would use computers in such stupid ways as they do today.

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  72. Re: You Sound Millennial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sorry your Grandparents were too busy being entitled to give you a livable planet. Get over it.

  73. No. by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

    Tech is more cumbersome and tedious to use that in previous years. Mainly because things seem to always get either overly complicated or over simplified. Hiding options below layers of menus and config screens gets annoying, more so when things don't even look like a button but are actually a menu.

    Take the clock radio - yes they still make them - but they only have a handful of buttons now, and only about 3 of which are used to set every setting the thing has. Press and hold for this, but tap for that. Every button changes based on the current state.

    Hell, just to use headphones on some things now you need and adapter dongle...

    The other problem is reliability. By that I don't mean things that physically break, modern tech has so many bugs and little issues that seem to get in the way just enough to annoy the fuck out of you. No product is polished anymore, it ships when it sort of works. Then the updates can make other problems and even take away features.

    Modern tech is also rented, if a manufacturer decides to discontinue a product - well it might not even work anymore because it required a server/cloud bullshit just to work.

    I actually don't know if what I imagined has ever come to pass - if it has, well I am sure it isn't easy peasy to use like I imagined.

  74. Re:Cooler than I expected, but not the same at all by jittles · · Score: 1

    I'm an Air Force brat. In 1969.I watched with my family as Neil Armstrong took the first steps on the moon. That was an OMG moment, which set unfulfilled expectations for years to come. Instead of OMG moments, we've had a steady advance in tech, better every year, but never with an OMG moment like that.

    So, I'm disappointed that I cannot vacation on Mars. At the same time, the steady tech revolution has changed the world far more than most of us would have thought possible.

    In 1982, I took a philosophy class at UC Berkeley. For my final project, I predicted when the AI singularity would occur. My hypothesis was that we sim[y lacked the compute power, and when we had enough such that for $1M in 1982 dollars, any mainstream university could afford a neural network with the same capacity as a human brain, then some a-hole would come along and program it to actually be intelligent.

    I predicted, based on Moore's Law, 2025....

    My dad was a teenager in the 50s and somewhat of a hoarder. I had read enough back issues of Popular Mechanics and whatnot to know that the future was not going to be as amazing as the optimists predicted. I never got caught in the trap of thinking we would ever vacation on Mars or even the moon (though my parents were much much older when they had me and I missed Armstrong by a long shot). By the time I studied AI at university, I realized that most software people were far too optimistic about AI as well. I don't believe that the issue is a lack of computing power but really a lack of knowledge, understanding of true intelligence, and perhaps a little bit of a lack of imagination. AI has solved some difficult problems, such as object recognition and things of that nature, but is still quite short on intelligence.

  75. Re: Thanks 0bummer! by zidium · · Score: 1

    Bush created the deep state. Obama weaponized it.

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  76. I'm totally amazed ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... at the technological progress.

    I wasn't impressed by the science fiction possibilities because the practicalities were boring to me at a young age.

    I bought my first computer in 1978 (TRS-80) and THEN I started predicting and wishing and hoping. I particularly saw the Internet as a way to bring the world closer as plebes ignored asshole leaders and started communicating directly.

    I was naive. I didn't know about marketing and the power of the crowds.

    I should have picked up on that. It was the business model for radio, movies, and TV: Where there's a lot of people, flash advertisements in their faces.

    That happened with the Internet, but a totally unpredictable thing happened: Data was the new gold.

    That's the reason we can't have nice things.

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  77. Less cool - no sentient computers by mrflash818 · · Score: 1

    In most science-fiction books and movies there is a sentient computer.

    The Matrix
    The Six Million Dollar Man
    Neuromancer
    Westworld
    2001 A Space Odyssey
    Logan's Run
    Knight Rider
    The Terminator
    Battlestar Galactica (both the kid-friendly original with Lorne Greene, and the re-do) ...

    Yet here we are, 2019, and no sentient, or even near-sentient computers (yet?).

    So, less cool.

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  78. No, it's not; it's all been subverted by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    I was a teenager in the 80's and the first computer I ever owned was one I built myself literally on perfboard and wrote my own code for.
    Since then we've got computers you can't 'build' that way, you can only buy pre-made PCBs and install them on a pre-made motherboard, and while there's Linux (which means you can theoretically write your own OS) and you can write your own software, too, for 99.9% of everyone there's no point anymore.
    We've also since then got the Internet, which started out as a great thing with incredible potential.
    But since then all the above has been subverted by corporations, governments, and criminal organizations, into spying, controlling, and evil things. None of it is really any 'fun' anymore, it's all about either money, control, or both.
    If I thought I could make a decent living at it, I'd walk away from all of it and go be a forest ranger or something, and just ride my bikes and forget all about all of it.

  79. 2 steps forward, 3 steps back by fikx · · Score: 1

    Simple answer is tech has gone backwards on average in my opinion. The pieces are there for better gadgets but something always cripples the gadget that ends up on the store shelf.

    disclosure: my predictions are not that old, can only go back to the 70s and all the predictions actually come from the 90s

    With the 386, internet (not just the web at that point) , memory, OS's, electronics (PDA's, displays, etc) I thought we had the base features there and now the cool things could be built:
    CPU in everything once cost came down from mass production and refinement, small always available computers with network, electronic files instead of paper, communication in multiple forms all the time.

    We have crippled forms of all of this, but every time we get close to it being common, standard and "faded into the background" something happens that stops progress and it has to be restarted.
    I was hoping desktop computers would "fade into the desk" , laptops and such are ALMOST there but not quite. Social networking using tech is ALMOST faded into common usage but not quite as FB and other silos fight over users and screw up personal data.

    So my answer is "No, things missed what I predicted" mainly as a frustration that they ALMOST get there time and again then fall down.

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  80. My Imagination was not even close up to reality by pcjunky · · Score: 1

    Back in my Apple II days I would daydream about a computer with more RAM and a faster microprocessor. I remember reading about the 68000 microprocessor. I remember thinking how cool it would be to have a computer with a 12MHz 68000 and 250K of RAM and something like 640X480 resolution (and 16 colors). My wildest imaginings couldn't see a computer capable of rendering in real time the what our modern machines do. Reality has WAY out stripped my imagination.

  81. Not even CLOSE! by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    I was born in the late 50's. As a kid in the 60's, there were visions of living on the moon, flying cars, robots running all over the place. About the only thing close is the "video phone" (smartphones).

  82. I expected phones to become really small... by ffkom · · Score: 1

    ... and for some years, amazing progress was made, just remember the Motorola v3688 or the tiny Nokia phones. Then something weird happened, and suddenly phone become bigger and heavier, battery life shorter and charging went from a 3-second battery swap into a many-hours-long procedure. The phones of today are really quite the opposite of what I would have expected the future to promise.

  83. Re: Yes by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

    With the CPU governor disabled (so the timing doesn't screw up the stroke-recognition), I can reliably sustain 30-35wpm via Graffiti (prediction disabled). Beat THAT with ANY soft keyboard without using predictive test^h^hxt. Or even WITH predictive text, as long as you use it to write grammatically-complete sentences with correct capitalization & punctuation.

    I suppose most people aren't bothered by quaint antiquities like grammar, capitalization, and punctuation, but I personally find my text entry speed falls to 5-6wpm with prediction enabled, because it feels like I have to keep going back and fixing every 2-3 words because something was incorrect.

  84. Re:Back to the original question by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    You think WiFi and GMOs are "unhealthy" somehow? You miss the tooth decay we enjoyed so much before water was fluoridated. And yes, you actually believe that smoking was healthier for you than today's food processing and additive tech?

    I'm glad I survived to live in my optimistic future, the same one that contains all the tech you hate.

  85. Re:Kids aren't jaded yet. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    I consider myself to be an optimist, but even I think that it is realistic that at least half of the population start dieing rapidly after 10 years, caused by global warming and all the side effects caused by it

    That's what alarmists predicted in 1900, and in 1920, and in 1950, and a whole lot more in 1970 and 1980.

  86. Depends on when your "then" comparison was by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    In my case it was circa 1953, in a country that had been flattened to rubble by the Germans and then ruled by iron-rice-bowl socialists. Compared to that, 2019 in Arizona feels strongly like living in the future of my dreams.

  87. profit driven by bigtreeman · · Score: 1

    Because technology development is driven primarily by corporate, military and profit motivation the direction of development is limited.

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  88. It never is by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    Most people's visions of the future are what Hollywood comes up with yet I'm surprised that more Hollywood designers aren't employed by the gadget companies. The same goes for cars. Detroit (for want of a better word) always comes out with these concept cars that everyone goes nuts over but they never get produced and we're stuck buying the same boring crap year after year.

  89. Re:Cooler than I expected, but not the same at all by leonbev · · Score: 1

    Yeah... I'm still waiting for the flying cars, cold fusion reactors, and Mars vacations that were promised to us back in 1980's Sci-Fi.

    We did get the cool pocket computers and personal AI assistants, though.

    I guess that we did get the killer robots, except that they fly instead of walk on land and they still need a pilot to operate. Still no cool mass produced handheld laser weapons, though.

  90. It's too long time period for me to have an opinio by aliquis · · Score: 1

    Back in 00s I was disappointed since the home computer era was gone.

    However I didn't really had a vision about the stuff we have now as for number of cores, SSDs and refresh rates.

    On a shorter time scale HDD prising is a disappointment. Number of cores was another one. And the low resolution and picture quality of early TFT monitors yet another one.

  91. Exponential growth and social aspects by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

    Futurologist Osmo A. Wiio said that people overestimate exponential growth in the short term, and underestimate it in the long term. For example, around the turn of the millennium I got interested in wearable computing and started reading about small single-board computers that might be applied to the idea with some hacking. A few years went by, and suddenly these consumer-friendly pocket computers were everywhere, in the form of "internet tablets" and early smartphones. We expect steady, linear progress based on what we know about today's tech, but in reality there's a mix of exponential growth (better tech helps you develop better tech) and sudden leaps (more marketing fads than genuine discoveries).

    There's also a social dimension about smaller computers that helps explain the ubiquity of smartphones and tablets. If you had a computer at home in the 1980s, you usually had a dedicated computer desk at some remote corner of the house. It was a work/hobby thing, completely detached from social life and entertainment. Laptops changed things as you might bring one to a dinner table (obviously not during actual dinner, you insensitive clod) and converse with other people. It may have been rude, but at least you could have some face-to-face contact without a huge CRT at your eye level. So in this human contact sense, tablets and smartphones were the killer app, because they could be completely unobtrusive in a social setting. You could have your computer with you and still be present with your family, instead of being hunched in the corner in the glow of a CRT.

    So the cool and social kids flocked to smartphones because you could have all these cool things without geeking out in the basement. But we all know it was downhill from then on. Because computers are so wonderful.

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    Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
  92. Re: Yes by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Telegraph key for the win!

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  93. This question begs for an answer. by wavfreak · · Score: 1
  94. Summary of scientific advancements in 2018 video by jroskey · · Score: 1

    I think we made a lot of progress in the sciences last year.. Just check out this video I came across that summed up 2018's most noticeable, and possibly world changing, scientific advancements and discoveries fairly well. https://youtu.be/xfQ2si7ksTY

  95. Re:Back to the original question by BoogieChile · · Score: 1

    You have a $100 smart phone that takes 12 megapixel photos in the dark?

  96. Predictions? by jimbo · · Score: 1

    Back in the eighties I was a teenager. Ain't nobody got time for predictions when busy flying model airplanes and collecting women's underwear catalogues.

  97. My best wishes are met. by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    I have thought a lot about Multitouch touchscreens and tablet computers, ever since the early eighties and I have to say we are basically there. Which is amazing, as what we have today for dirt cheap would be magic back in the eighties.

    However, the problem of powerful Tools in untrained hands still remains. People by and large don't know yet how to deal with technology. That's why we have the problems in social networks and still have people using word to send images.

    Other than that I personally am pretty happy with the technical state of things. Really can't compatible. A repairable smartphone with replaceable battery would be nice though.

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    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
  98. abuse by sad_ · · Score: 1

    we live in an awesome time in tech, compared to what was possible in the 70's.
    the problem is the constant abuse of the technology by companies.
    and that spoils the fun for all of us.

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    On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
  99. Surgery by Bengie · · Score: 1

    I had a recent Cholecystectomy. It was out-patient. Only took about 2 hours by the time I got to the hospital, the procedure itself was less than 15 minutes. I was up and walking by the time I got home. I had a water proof breathable bandaid that I can purchase was Walmart, allowing me to shower and I didn't have to remove it for a week. No stitches. Scars look like feint age spots. The doctor even said I would eat anything that I wanted immediately after surgery.

    My computer boots in about 10 seconds, that's cool. Several of my games support streaming downloads, allowing me to start playing as soon as the first 200MiB download, which is only a few seconds. I have a 1ms ping to most CDNs, 6ms to most servers, and even when my connection is fully saturated, I still have less than a 10ms ping to the general internet.

    I no longer have to defrag my harddrive. I can download an ISO, burn it to a $10 64GiB flash drive, and reboot within less than a minute if I know exactly what I need to do. Not having to go into my bios and flipping dip-switches on daughterboards and peripherals is awesome. USB, just plug it in. The quality of search engines brings almost all knowledge instantly. Programming frameworks and libraries are superb comparatively.

    The overall quality of life dealing with technology is leaps and bounds better.

  100. Yes and no by rlp · · Score: 1

    Yes, because of Moore's Law - my SmartPhone is more powerful than the mainframe the college used when I was an undergraduate.
    No - space exploration has not advanced nearly as fast as I had expected. Fusion power is still ten years off (and has been for the last thirty years). And oh yeah - no flying cars.

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    [Insert pithy quote here]
  101. Re: contemplate this by terrycarlino · · Score: 1

    Taking into account inflation $200 is cheap for what your getting. We've just become spoiled.

    $200 is $23 in 1960 dollars. In 1970 dollars its $31. In 1980 dollars its $65.

    Average wage in 1960 was $4007 so $23 was 6% per month. In 1970 average wage was $6000. Price is the same 6%. By 1980 it had gone down to 4%. For 2018 the average wage was $44,564. Price is 5% of that.

    So it looks like to me that price has kept pace with inflation. But lets look deeper. In everywhere but the biggest markets most people were lucky to have 2 or 3 television stations and maybe a dozen radio stations in 1960. By 1970 some areas, typically those outside major venues, started getting cable, which carried mostly OTA channels from other areas. It wasn't until 1972 that HBO was founded to play movies on cable. In the 1980's local live channels started. Still no internet though.

    Now for $200 we get hundreds of channels (which I keep hearing no one wants to watch.) For that price I get effectively unlimited data too, which I use way more than cable TV.

    Yeah it would be great if I only had to pay $50, but I can't honestly say it's a ripoff. The price is equitable if inflation adjusted.

  102. Way cooler by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

    "Do today's technological gadgets manage to live up to how you imagined tech around the year 2020 would be, or do they fall short of what you hoped/imagined might exist by today?

    I'm a child of the 60's and 70's...

    I think my view is best established by quoting something I wrote a couple of years ago to accompany a post I made to FB about a video from the ISS:

    "I was a sci-fi nut and nerd extraordinaire back in the 70's... But if you'd told me that one day I'd be able to share super high resolution footage from a freakin' space station with friends across the globe using what amounts to a supercomputer that I carry in my pocket... I'd have thought you crazy. But here it is, just an average Tuesday and my supercomputer needs charging once I'm done posting."

    So, yeah, way cooler. Most of the people who think it isn't, the basic problem is they made shit up and are now holding reality at fault for not living up to what they pulled from their asses in the first place.

  103. Re:Back to the original question by BoogieChile · · Score: 1

    "No" would have worked just as well as all of that. But you keep dragging those goalposts around, if it makes you happy.