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Happy 18th Birthday, Wikipedia (washingtonpost.com)

This week, Wikipedia celebrates its 18th birthday. If the massive crowdsourced encyclopedia project were human, then in most countries, it would just now be considered a legal adult. But in truth, the free online encyclopedia has long played the role of the Internet's good grown-up. From a story: Wikipedia has grown enormously since its inception: It now boasts 5.7 million articles in English and pulled in 92 billion page views last year. The site has also undergone a major reputation change. If you ask Siri, Alexa or Google Home a general-knowledge question, it will likely pull the response from Wikipedia. The online encyclopedia has been cited in more than 400 judicial opinions, according to a 2010 paper in the Yale Journal of Law & Technology.

Many professors are ditching the traditional writing assignment and instead asking students to expand or create a Wikipedia article on the topic. And YouTube Chief Executive Susan Wojcicki announced a plan last March to pair misleading conspiracy videos with links to corresponding articles from Wikipedia. Facebook has also released a feature using Wikipedia's content to provide users more information about the publication source for articles in their feed.

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  1. Like all "open" institutions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It too will be subverted.

    1. Re:Like all "open" institutions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It already has been from what I've heard. There's a lot of complaints out there about the administrative clique and this isn't anything new. It seems that hands already steer the content beyond the calls of decency. This has turned off a lot of would-be contributors but that's the intent of heavy handed censorship in the first place so it's all good. Double plus good, in fact.

    2. Re: Like all "open" institutions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But wait thereâ(TM)s more

    3. Re:Like all "open" institutions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://ggwiki.deepfreeze.it/index.php?title=Wikipedia

      https://8ch.net/gamergatehq/res/329182.html

      Several of the admins are, literally, paid agents of Saudi Arabia, the Clinton campaign, the Rothschild family, etc

      One of their guys died in Syria working for ISIS

  2. Stupid paternalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wikipedia is anything but the Internet's "good grown-up."

    1. Re:Stupid paternalism by psergiu · · Score: 1

      Not a nice thing to say about Wikipedia-Chan

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  3. Adult section? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that Wikipedia is 18, can we start the online porn encyclopedia?

    1. Re:Adult section? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone's already got that covered.

    2. Re: Adult section? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $4 for 15 minutes of viewing. What a steal. I can bust 3 nuts in that amount of time. That's almost $1.30 a nut.

    3. Re: Adult section? by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      You're the only guy on the planet who can finish 1st and 3rd in a circle jerk!

  4. 18 Years of Pumping Jimmy Wales' Stocks by nagora · · Score: 0, Troll

    "The Internet doesn't need an encyclopaedia, it is an encyclopaedia. What it needs, is a decent index."

    WP is a shit idea done shittily.

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    1. Re:18 Years of Pumping Jimmy Wales' Stocks by mike.mondy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "The Internet doesn't need an encyclopaedia, it is an encyclopaedia. What it needs, is a decent index."

      WP is a shit idea done shittily.

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      "Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"

      The Internet is nothing like an encyclopedia!

      The Internet is indexed - that's the function that search engines provide. Personally, I'd say they're "decent" but not great. (I want searches with parentheses and more operators.)

      Wikipedia is a great idea. With less than perfect implementation. A lot of people get a lot of value from it. If it were really that bad, we'd see stronger competitors.

    2. Re:18 Years of Pumping Jimmy Wales' Stocks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      duh! i'm too ignorant to even read a single article on Jimmy Wales!

      i'm so ignorant i think he makes money from this crap!

      even though Wikipedia is a FUCKING NON-PROFIT

      there are no "stocks" for wikipedia. please grasshopper, go to school before you jizz your thoughts onto slashdot.

    3. Re:18 Years of Pumping Jimmy Wales' Stocks by nagora · · Score: 1

      You're a fucking moron. Wales has a business called Wikia which he uses WP as advertising for.

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  5. Reminds me of an 18 year old by 110010001000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...full of incorrect information and constantly asking for money.

    1. Re:Reminds me of an 18 year old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Yeah everything there is incorrect. Good emotional bullshit point derp.

    2. Re:Reminds me of an 18 year old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good emotional bullshit point derp.

    3. Re:Reminds me of an 18 year old by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      Also thinks they know everything and keep complaining that certain people are "not notable".

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    4. Re: Reminds me of an 18 year old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Strawman and feelings? Poposterus

    5. Re:Reminds me of an 18 year old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...full of incorrect information and constantly asking for money.

      Sounds familiar: "full of incorrect information and constantly asking for money for a wall."

    6. Re:Reminds me of an 18 year old by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      The "begging banner" is indeed quite annoying. I don't mind a relatively small banner, but theirs is often large, orange, and obnoxious*.

      Are they really as desperate as the loud banner suggests, or are they just inflicted with artificial drama as some rants on the Interwebs claim? The common theory is that they want to expand their operations, and use alleged desperation to get donations for growth.

      * Not intended to reference certain celebrities. The color may be red, not orange. I don't fully remember; it's not up the last I checked.

    7. Re:Reminds me of an 18 year old by Falos · · Score: 1

      I thought I remembered seeing somewhere (an article) that wikipedia is not in any financial dire straits at all and they're just rattling a cup under your face, but don't quote me on that.

    8. Re:Reminds me of an 18 year old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and the articles that are mostly correct have been tagged for years due to pedantic analysis of grammar and sources. This even if the sources are quoted at the bottom like a bibliography, they want the article "littered" with inline source content that produces several unnecessary hyperlinks and such. They end up "vandalizing" their own articles (excluding the debates in the Talk pages) when they have BIG BOLD BANNERS complaining about the article and even silly little markups such as [who?], [when?]. They will NEVER be an academic quality encyclopedia so they have to balance Wikipedia policy with article readability and overall quality of presentation. I usually only read the latest article and don't bother with the article's Edit History.

    9. Re:Reminds me of an 18 year old by TheGoodNamesWereGone · · Score: 1

      ...full of incorrect information and constantly asking for money.

      What he said. The site is good for hard science & factual stuff, but very poor in other areas

    10. Re:Reminds me of an 18 year old by f3rret · · Score: 1

      uBlock's element zapper takes care of the banner no problem,

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  6. I remember by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember trying to create an account many years ago and it kept throwing an error. Something about "Pamela Anderson". Maybe like "yeah and I'm Pamela Anderson" anyway years later I realised they probably had some check on the account because me and Jimmy share the same sir name.

  7. congratulations WP by AlwinBarni · · Score: 3, Funny

    Congratulations.

    If I found myself in a parallel universe, the first thing to check would be the Internet and WP, if none then moving on would be the right choice - unless, of course, it's raining donuts ;-)

    1. Re:congratulations WP by sinij · · Score: 2

      Be right back, writing a wiki article on raining donuts.

    2. Re:congratulations WP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Congratulations.

      If I found myself in a parallel universe, the first thing to check would be the Internet and WP, if none then moving on would be the right choice - unless, of course, it's raining donuts ;-)

      In a similar situation I would check https://xkcd.com/566/

  8. You mean the reference web site by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

    That is not to be used in any school/college report as a reference? That site's birthday?

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    1. Re:You mean the reference web site by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      That is not to be used in any school/college report as a reference?

      It should not be used as a reference because it is an encyclopedia. References should always be to primary sources.

      You can find links to the primary sources at the bottom of the Wiki page.

    2. Re:You mean the reference web site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think they mean the reference website, without any regard to whatever school rules someone has to endure.

    3. Re:You mean the reference web site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yah, that one. The one that all students use as their first point of reference anyway, because it's so much faster and clearer than looking at reliable sources. Of course, having done that, there's no substitute for getting reliable information from reliable sources -- same thing is true whether you start with Wikipedia, or the Wall Street Journal, the BBC, or Fox news or CNN or Time magazine. All are useful, all are biased, all make mistakes -- sometimes glaring ones.

      Only one out of all these that I've mentioned lets you see how the text evolved over time, or lets you correct obvious errors, or produces the thing you want ("tell me about Quercus Suber!") without launching any popups or playing any videos. Wikipedia, as unreliable as it is, does all three and is remarkably useful. It's worth commemorating.

    4. Re:You mean the reference web site by pgmrdlm · · Score: 2

      I completely agree. But that is the same for reading the news. Always find other or original sources. And use them as your reference in any discussions.

      One of my favorite set of documents on most in-depth subjects is CRS reports prepared by the Library of Congress for Congress. There are always links to their original sources. Dry as hell to read, but well documented all the way. Wish everything(news especially) would be this well researched and reported on.

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  9. Wikipedia is the worst thing happened to knowledge by xack · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Google often puts Wikipedia at the top spot, sometimes in special infoboxes (Wikipedia's word). But Wikipedia is censoring knowledge by saying sources are "not reliable" or the topic is"not notable".One "notable" victim is ResetEra, who was deleted as not notable despite being one of the most influential gaming forums on the internet and was especially notable as the successor to the website Neogaf which employs similar censorship tactics as Wikipedia does. What's more Wikipedia begs for money that could be used for feeding starving children instead. Despite Wikipedia's flaws there has been no serious effort to replace it. Most sites like Infogalactic and Everipedia have their own even worse pov pushing problems and Citizendium never got off the ground.

    I protest Wikipedia to this day by being a long term abuser" on the site.

  10. ftpwwp by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Pay walled Washington Post. How did this get past /.? https://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/...

    1. Re:ftpwwp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Want to know a trick? That type of paywall can be defeated by judiciously clicking the reload and then instantly stop buttons. You're welcome.

  11. Has he been a part of it 18 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember he coopted it from whoever originally produced it after failing to make his subscription encyclopedia work and then ousting the originators of wikipedia while claiming he founded the thing all himself.

    A true showboater and asshole all around. But as we see, that gets rewarded with money, just like Mozilla and all those other companies with CEOs too big and blowhard to fail.

  12. Republican anti-information faggot whines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    News at 11

  13. so is Drupal by cobbaut · · Score: 1

    Ha Wikipedia is the same age as Drupal.
    https://dri.es/happy-eighteent...

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    1. Re:so is Drupal by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Thanks, now I really feel old.

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  14. It's time to do porn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that you are 18, tits or gtfo. You already prostitute yourself regularly wanting my money. Fuck off and deliver the goods.

  15. Awesome way to troll your students by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Funny

    >> Many professors are ditching the traditional writing assignment and instead asking students to expand or create a Wikipedia article on the topic

    This is probably the funniest way to troll students that I've heard in a long time.

    "Yeah, can you please find an article on which you are knowledgable and for which you can cite sources, or even one which has typos or grammar problems. Go ahead and (snickers) make the appropriate edit, and then I'll check your work next week and give you a grade on what I saw (chuckles)."

    1. Re:Awesome way to troll your students by sinij · · Score: 3, Funny

      This explains why Pokemon is so thoroughly documented on Wiki.

    2. Re:Awesome way to troll your students by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they took a lot of pokemon stuff off because they got ticked off about people making jokes about it.

  16. Why is Vladimir Putin defending Trump suddenly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is Putin suddenly opining that Trump helping advance Russian interests, including removing sanctions on Derepaska and vowing to get rid of the Magnitsky Act, is somehow "stupid"?

    What's stupid is that Trump supporters are pretending the traitor had no deals with Russia, like he repeatedly claimed, and as we know is dead false.

  17. Are you sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    18th Birthday? Citation needed.

    1. Re:Are you sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 funny.

    2. Re:Are you sure? by Pfhorrest · · Score: 1

      <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia#Launch_and_early_growth</ref>

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  18. the traditional writing assignment by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

    Many professors are ditching the traditional writing assignment and instead asking students to expand or create a Wikipedia article on the topic.

    Wow, have college professors decided not to do their jobs any more? In how many jobs will an employer ask an employee to "expand or create a Wikipedia article?" Worse, the correct use of the written word is rapidly becoming a lost art. Why would a professor help trundle the written word into the graveyard?

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    1. Re:the traditional writing assignment by apoc.famine · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are you kidding? This is a better use of everyone's time. Do you honestly think asking students to write a paper they know that you're going to skim and then bin is a better use of time?

      At least here there's a chance what they write about will be read by more than one hurried, not-so-interested professor or TA. The traditional way is a ridiculous waste. We're not talking in lieu of published research here. This is instead of an essay.

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    2. Re:the traditional writing assignment by kamapuaa · · Score: 0

      What the fuck? This is a minor league way for an undergraduate to write/publish a research paper. It's exactly what professors should be doing. Isn't Wikedia Creative Commons? Why are you anti-open sores?

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    3. Re:the traditional writing assignment by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

      apoc.famine: a better use of everyone's time. You can't be serious! If you have intimate knowledge of a subject gained in years or decades of work, you'll notice errors in Wikipedia writings. Why would I trust a college student to make fewer mistakes than someone with an intimate knowledge of a subject? Answer: I wouldn't trust their infantile, cell phone damaged minds as far as I could throw them.

      kamapuaa: I was going to mention that the local newspaper says only about 8% of local high school graduates have been prepared for college and ask whether you want these losers polluting and diluting Wikipedia. And to give as a further example, what would happen to Wikipedia content if the undereducated dopes on /. began, en mass, to contribute to Wikipedia? But then I read your sig. Enough said, you proved my point.

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  19. How old in dog years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wikipedia in the last couple of years has deteriorated dramatically. Many, many articles are locked and not accessible for edits. I use if frequently, but I estimate that 99 times out of 100 the article has either obvious omissions or misleading statements. Worse, they've automated the system which erases comments on the talk pages. This leaves the articles hostage to the "official" (i.e. registered) editors. (In most cases, they are well intentioned, but how many editors have closed minds? way too many. (many of the most closed minded are not knowledgeable in the subject area - see Dunning-Kruger Effect)

  20. Wikipedia is still shit by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There was a massive opportunity for Wikipedia to actually disrupt teaching and self-learning and they COMPLETELY squandered it.

    An article could be written for the layman, with advanced details/explanations for the novice/expert, a tutorial, examples to make sure you understand the concepts, videos, audio pronunciation, tips from professionals, a forum, along with verification/authenticity from professors for accuracy.

    Wikipedia COULD have been basically an interactive textbook, reference, dictionary, encyclopedia, forum, fan site, library, and StackOverflow all rolled in one.

    INSTEAD we get some circle jerk admins whining about citations, revert wars, idiotic politics and policies such as no trivia sections, no original research, and pages deleted because they aren't "notable" enough (as if popularity was _ever_ a good way to decide that a 1 KB database entry was worth keeping LOL). Why the fuck do I have to go to Project Gutenberg to read a public domain book or YouTube to see a video about the topic? At least put a fucking link so I can see it on YouTube or a link to a store where I can buy the TV/movie/music asset, etc.

    And then these smegheads have the gall to constantly beg for money??

    Hey dumbass wikipedia admins: one man's trivia is another man's junk. Information is MULTI-Valued. Just because it has NO value to YOU, doesn't imply it has no value. You had ONE job: Categorize information. WE, the readers, determine what is USEFUL.

    Wikipedia has been shit for years; a pale shadow of what could have been -- a bastion of all knowledge, a digital library.

    So who is going to take up the mantle?

    1. Re:Wikipedia is still shit by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Sorry about that all bold end text. Missed a bold close tag. :-/

    2. Re:Wikipedia is still shit by kencurry · · Score: 1

      It takes time and money. I donate to wiki because I think they have the best offering and they deserve more resources to keep it up - no it isn't perfect.

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    3. Re:Wikipedia is still shit by Pfhorrest · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You realize Wikipedia is only one part of the larger Wikimedia network? If you want to read a public domain book, WikiSource is for that. If you want a textbook, WikiText is for that. Videos, images, audio, etc, can all be hosted on the Wikimedia back end, if they are useful for one of the front end projects like Wikipedia or WikiText.

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    4. Re:Wikipedia is still shit by Sumus+Semper+Una · · Score: 1

      It's flawed. Deeply flawed. But I don't have a more realistically workable idea and I still use it fairly often when I want to know a bit more on a general topic.

      I tend to think of Wikipedia a bit like Churchill's paraphrased Democracy quote: it's the worst idea of its kind except for all those other forms that have been tried.

    5. Re:Wikipedia is still shit by MpVpRb · · Score: 1

      As much as they claim to be futurists, they are still constrained by the past
      The quality of the post is irrelevant. All that matters is that there is a reference to other work, which is often of poor quality

    6. Re:Wikipedia is still shit by epine · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Notability and popularity are mildly correlated, but functionally orthogonal.

      What you are proposing is Wankerpedia, where all knowledge amounts to having no knowledge at all.

      The Library of Babel

      "The Library of Babel" is a short story by Argentine author and librarian Jorge Luis Borges (1899–1986), conceiving of a universe in the form of a vast library containing all possible 410-page books of a certain format and character set.

      The notability and citation guidelines are the only reasons the entire project hasn't degenerated into a giant emporium of fake news.

      What else do you propose? Ten different primary articles on every subject under the sun, because ten different editorial camps exist for every possible subject? I don't know what that project would be, but it certainly wouldn't contain the suffix "-pedia", not even a little bit.

      Let's descend one more level in the High-Rise of Five Whys: the reason why Wikipedia didn't go in your proposed direction in the first place is that kind of people who want to be all things to all people tend to sit around blowing smoke out their ass (after trying to be anything to anybody, they'd soon discover this mission is not nearly so easy as it first appears, and promptly change their asinine stripes).

    7. Re:Wikipedia is still shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I feel like you're being deliberately obtuse here. There are multiple audiences for certain subjects, and it's kind of arbitrary. Wikipedia has a lot of math articles on subjects of interested to people who are eg. university students, but written to an audience of PhD thesis candidates in the field; yet there's tonnes of biology articles written as if to a high schooler. It's not like wikipedia has drawn a consistent line.

      It's also difficult to understand why, fundamentally, wikipedia couldn't be "all things to all people". I get that some things like the "In Popular Culture" sections got out of hand and distracting. But wikipedia has multiple languages. Including "Simple English". They've already gone down the road of different material for different audiences. It's just a question of where the line is drawn.

      And I do understand wikipedia's ability to draw editors while maintaining finances demand some editorial control. Every year they beg for more and more money, so I get why they can't just host every digitizable public domain work of art ever, even if that seems kind of awesome.

    8. Re:Wikipedia is still shit by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 0

      Except wikipedia's idea of "notability" and worse yet "verifiability/reliable sources" are precisely why the website HAS become a giant pile of fake news, down to claiming Jesus was a Palestinian oppressed and killed by Jewish settlers.

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    9. Re:Wikipedia is still shit by zijus · · Score: 1

      Hello poor little pink unicorn. You feel hurt ?

      I bet this user got one of his own little-pet-point-of-view-blabla removed from WP. And - obviously - it cannot be. It necessarily was "his self-esteem was personally attacked by very very not nice WP admins". Ha ha ! After 18 years some users still consider WP is a play-ground. What a surprise when they realise : no. What a rage when they realise there are some non-negotiable rules. Poor thing ! Childishness is hilarious when smeared over forums. Those users would tell you they do "what they want", including driving on the wrong side of the road because "who are you to tell me otherwise ?!". What a surprise when they realise they crashed. Haaaa ha ha. 'tis so gross.

      WE, the readers, determine what is USEFUL.

      Lol: What a round of utter crap. Just read WP history, inception goals, and rules before commenting further. Or go on FB, YT and the likes where you can happily do "what you want". (Well btw... did you notice it is changing ? Yes ! More and more... rules on FB and the like, to tame the truck loads of rubbish content generated by users who do "what they want". Poor thing.)

    10. Re:Wikipedia is still shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wikipedia has been shit for years; a pale shadow of what could have been -- a bastion of all knowledge, a digital library.
      So who is going to take up the mantle?

      It's open source, fork it!

      Oops, forgot...complaining about other people's work is much easier than doing your own work. :-P

  21. 18 years of meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The good:
    - Pages for obscure and and the noteworthy trivial which never made it into an actual encyclopedia (Britannica)
    - Pages for pop culture - persons, tv shows, music groups - Most equivalent content is paywalled or only online for advertising
    - Pages not behind a paywall and in more or less the same format
          - yay near plain text format not a click on 50 links to read all parts of an article, not 1/12th of a page with ads and a go to next part link
    - Scope of articles

    The not so good:
    - Vanity articles like a 'term' coined by one journalist and a vanity WP article
    - Boundary articles such as the fringe slang from a group of persons. It's a looming issue in that every slang term used by 3 persons is not worthy of being in WP
    - Lack of indexing, actual lists such as birthdays with person name, date, year, profession, country, etc preventing filtering of the data

  22. Happy birthday Wikipedia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And I mean it. It's easy to criticize. If any of you can do better, I'll be happy to contribute. Meanwhile, this is still one of the most useful websites out there.

  23. The topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Many professors are ditching the traditional writing assignment and instead asking students to expand or create a Wikipedia article on the topic.

    What topic?

  24. Re:Wikipedia is the worst thing happened to knowle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One "notable" victim is ResetEra, who was deleted as not notable despite being one of the most influential gaming forums on the internet

    You can't fool me. If this "victim" were telling the truth and Wikipedia had censored them, then you're not going to find any evidence that they were or are ever a gaming forum on the internet, because you won't be able to find it on the internet.

    And if you're able to find it, then that's going to prove that Wikipedia didn't really censor them.

    I didn't even have to look anything up. Your post, all alone, told me you were lying.

  25. Wikipedia Huge and Good by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 0

    I love it. I likely browse it more than any other website. Sort of like when I used to read no "books", but I'd browse physical encyclopedias. It is 99% perfect I'd wager.

  26. Maybe they'll stop begging for money by burningcpu · · Score: 1

    Maybe they'll stop acting like the kid that begs all his friends for a cigarette, despite having a full pack. Basically, grubby.

  27. It's a love/hate thing by MpVpRb · · Score: 2

    I love wikipedia!

    Some of the mathematical sections are written at a graduate level. I wish they also provided a bit of help for those of us who are mathematically literate at a lower level

    Their guidelines for acceptable posts are outdated

    Yes, I know that lots of cranks want to get their "original research" on wikipedia. I agree that they should be banned
    But, there is a lot of really useful information that gets removed because it doesn't meet their strict guidelines

    They claim to be an encyclopedia of the future, yet they continue to use rules from the past

    1. Re:It's a love/hate thing by NickDngr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Some of the mathematical sections are written at a graduate level. I wish they also provided a bit of help for those of us who are mathematically literate at a lower level

      That's what Khan Academy is for.

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  28. Now is the time we ask by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dear Wikipedia. Today we ask you to help us, the Wikipedia readers. To protect our independence, we'll never run ads if you link to our sites. We're sustained by shitty tech jobs paying barely more than a living wage. Only a tiny portion of the websites we view give us anything in return. If Wikipedia gave every reader $10, we could keep ourselves full of Taco Bell dollar menu foods for days to come. The price of a fucking expensive cup of coffee is all we need. If having readers is useful to you, please take one minute to dip into that $75 million cash reserve that you never mention when you're fundraising and help keep our waistlines growing. Thank you.

    1. Re:Now is the time we ask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesnt matter how many millions in reserve they have, its a brilliant resource and i donate money anyhow.

      Best you check out this 500 most interesting wikipedia articles link and fill your winter nights for the next few months http://tomgrundy.org/interesting-wikipedia-articles/

  29. Don't trust them as much as I used to by AbRASiON · · Score: 2

    Seen several articles now over the years where the narrative has been hijacked politically in one way or another, skewing the information.

    If there's an article sticking to basic facts "this is how combustion works" no issue, but anything explaining how an event went down, the motivations of people doing it, how people were impacted? Yeah no thanks. PROBABLY correct but totally definitely not certain.

  30. Re:Wikipedia is the worst thing happened to knowle by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    Wow, you're trying to promote one of the most insanely censored, extreme EXTREME far left, circle jerk "our way or the highway" sites on the internet.

    ResetERA will ban anyone who doesn't agree effectively.

    A case of a site that "eats its own" whereas NeoGAF has regained a small amount of it's reputation having now started allowig people to actually discuss things again.

    The most surprising thing is that Wikipedia aren't taking the ResetERA angle

  31. Re:Wikipedia is the worst thing happened to knowle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ResetEra

    46000 members. Cast off leftovers from NeoGAF having a moderation shit-fit. Low forum activity. Didn't even know it existed until you mentioned it and I got curious. Even NeoGAF itself only has 132k members.

    They both have/had a few big names as members but are barely relevant outside their fairly insular userbases. Even Reddit or the PA forums would have more reach and contain far more actual developers and designers, and older sites like Gamasutra would be a lot more useful.

    Hey look, Gamasutra has a wikipedia article.

  32. Finally! by sabbede · · Score: 1

    I'm sick of Wikipedia always bugging me to buy it cigarettes.