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You Can Now Run Windows 10 on the Raspberry Pi 3 (tomshardware.com)

Raspberry Pi is finally ready for the full Windows 10 experience. From a report: A new installer lets you put Windows 10 on Arm, including the Pi. And it's made by the same people who got Windows 10 on Arm onto Lumia 950 and 950 XL handset. You can find the Github page here, in which developer Jose Manuel Nieto Sanchez call the tool "super easy to use" and "no-hassle." It requires a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B or B+, a microSD card (he recommends an A1 rating) and a Windows 10ARM64 image, which is linked to from the page where you get the download instructions.

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  1. Then you have two problems by goombah99 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The only reason to run Windows is to use the Office Suite for compatibility with the modern bussiness world and much of the academic world. Thems the standards regardless of preferences or your personally proven experience with working outside the MSOffice-industrial-complex.

    So if the raspi doesn't run Office what's the point of running windows?

    You now are running a machine intended for being either a task specific embedded machine or as a light weight computer. Running windows on it instead of linux or some RT os is more of a dare (like scottish cuisine) than a useful idea.

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    1. Re:Then you have two problems by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Windows also runs a lot of software that is Windows/Mac only. Visual Studio, Adobe products, Autodesk products. Then there are games (and game dev toolkits). There are also numerous internal apps.

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    2. Re:Then you have two problems by Dan+East · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The only reason to run Windows is to use the Office Suite for compatibility

      Wow, there is one, and only one, reason to run Windows, the most widely used desktop OS in the world. That's quite a mind blowing revelation there. I bet you did a lot of research to come to that conclusion.

      And less sarcastically... what about the average joe who would just like to use the OS environment they are already familiar with? That alone is a valid reason to run Windows 10.

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    3. Re:Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But not on the Pi?

    4. Re:Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows on ARM runs Office...

      I'm not sure what's the limitation here.

    5. Re:Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft claimed Xbox games run on Windows Phone. This means all Windows programs run on anything that says Windows!

      Now excuse me while I try to install Visual Studio on my Dreamcast.

    6. Re:Then you have two problems by Locutus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That pathetic excuse to keep Windows around has been around for decades and is false. The iPhone proved that wrong and so has Android. Not to mention, Microsoft has constantly forced massive GUI changes on it's users which has constantly required them to learn a new UI. So even Windows users can learn new user interfaces.

      Time for another reason why anyone would want Microsoft Windows on a useful Raspberry Pi. Please note the word "useful".

      LoB

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    7. Re:Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not the OS, and never has been. It's the apps. If you can use the "OS" but nothing else, it's worthless, unless you count the apps as part of the OS (much more common with free software than with Windows). The parent post limited to Office, but people want to run Windows-only software of all kinds. They want to pick up a program at the local shop and have it actually work. That's at least part of why Linux migrations inevitably fail. It's also why Windows on alternate architectures is pointless. Even for things like the Alpha, where they included an x86 emulator.

    8. Re:Then you have two problems by Dan+East · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That pathetic excuse to keep Windows around has been around for decades and is false.

      iOS replaced Windows? You run iOS on your laptop and desktop computers?

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    9. Re:Then you have two problems by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      The only reason to run Windows is to use the Office Suite for compatibility with the modern bussiness world and much of the academic world.

      Well, that and the chicks... chick dig people who run Winders!

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    10. Re:Then you have two problems by rnturn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oy! I don't think you understood the point of that statement.

      I never heard anybody bitch about their iPhone not looking like Windows. Nor have I heard bitching that Android didn't look like Windows. In both cases, users learned those not-Windows interfaces.

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    11. Re:Then you have two problems by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Informative

      Windows also runs a lot of software that is Windows/Mac only. Visual Studio, Adobe products, Autodesk products. Then there are games (and game dev toolkits). There are also numerous internal apps.

      True, but hardly any of that is compiled for ARM processors.

      Yes, it might run under an x86 emulator, but would you really want to? It's already going to be incredibly slow because it runs off an SD card, adding emulation as an extra layer would be borderline masochistic.

      This might be useful if you want a familiar Windows user interface while surfing the web but not much more.

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    12. Re:Then you have two problems by Sarten-X · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Well, there you have it. That's the most insightful first comment I've seen on Slashdot in a very long time.

      You're absolutely right. Outside of "legacy support" (including supporting legacy workflows and legacy users who don't want to learn a new interface), the only real reasons to run Windows are for application and data compatibility. Previously, I'd have included Active Directory as a vital Windows-only service, but Samba is capable enough now to be a viable alternative.

      Application compatibility is already gone in this case: Even on Windows, you're still on ARM. You can't expect software will work cleanly.

      Data compatibility is a hairier issue, but it pretty much boils down to Office documents and PDF. Other formats are either standard enough (like image formats) that third-party (and FOSS) software can work with them perfectly, or rare enough that perfection isn't a general expectation. PDF support in FOSS is getting better, to the point where it's approaching perfection, and Adobe doesn't have any reason to make the format intentionally unusable for others. Office formats, on the other hand, are full of things that don't actually conform to the published "standards", and Microsoft is quite happy to be the only player in that game.

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    13. Re:Then you have two problems by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Yes because the GUI changed with windows XP and with windows 10. That's massive.

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    14. Re:Then you have two problems by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Sorry, windows 8 not 10.

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    15. Re:Then you have two problems by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      And Vista, but both Vista and 7 would let you go back to the Win2K UI if you wanted.

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    16. Re:Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The biggest problem is that linux on the desktop is a dreadful experience. I run Linux/Mac/Windows on a daily basis and I am always amazed at how bad the linux experience is.

    17. Re:Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it might run under an x86 emulator, but would you really want to? It's already going to be incredibly slow because it runs off an SD card, adding emulation as an extra layer would be borderline masochistic.

      This might be useful if you want a familiar Windows user interface while surfing the web but not much more.

      Running Windows on anything has always been a "beat on me it feels good" type of user experience.

    18. Re:Then you have two problems by TomBauserman · · Score: 2

      The average Joe isn't going to be installing an OS on a Raspberry PI. They're going to be buying a POS PC / laptop from wal-mart or best buy.

    19. Re:Then you have two problems by TomBauserman · · Score: 2

      No but the kids at the school I work at can sit in front of any OS and use it because they're used to android, ios, windows, chromeos. The OS they use 90% of the time is ChromeOS. So they are OS agnostic. So the OS doesn't really matter. Just show them how to get to a web browser.

    20. Re: Then you have two problems by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      What is the Linux equivalent of Aderant? How about Metastorm? BigHand? Never heard of them? There are hundreds if not thousands of other industry-specific Windows-only applications you've never heard of, not to mention tons of in-house apps that would cost a fortune to rewrite. Those are what are keeping Windows around. Solve that problem and Windows will start to disappear.

    21. Re:Then you have two problems by ogdenk · · Score: 1

      Now ask those kids to add only the pdf and doc files from a certain directory to a zip archive and e-mail them to you after putting a copy on the local fileserver. Wake me up when it takes them less than half an hour.

      I am OS agnostic, I work with anything from embedded systems through ATARI BASIC through modern Linux, Windows and OSX desktops. Only difference is I actually had to learn something and can use the tools in front of me with stunning efficiency. None of the poke-and-drool tools you speak of are nearly as flexible or efficient as even the most basic of desktop operating systems.

    22. Re:Then you have two problems by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

      The only reason to run Windows is to use the Office Suite for compatibility

      You ignore Visual Studio. This is one of the major reasons *WHY* Windows has been so popular. A fantastic development environment

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    23. Re: Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Voted +1 but doesn't even name 1 problem he has. Is this a windows fanboy site now?

    24. Re: Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would people spend time writing free apps to replace programs no ones ever fucking heard of before?

    25. Re: Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I feel like I've been teleported back to 1998 and a Rex Ballard rant on an *.advocacy usenet news group.

    26. Re:Then you have two problems by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Yes but but only a tiny percentage of those things have ARM builds.

      So you are not running it; at least not with usable performance on a rPi.

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    27. Re:Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This ignores that 99% of expensive engineering software runs on Windows and sometimes desktop Linux and nothing else. Not Android nor Apple. I bet Apple's silicon team uses Windows and/or Linux workstations for systemVerilog development and Simulink and similar.

    28. Re: Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not on the rPI they don't

    29. Re: Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And exactly zero of those will work with win10 on arm so what is your point?

    30. Re:Then you have two problems by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      Even on Windows, You can't expect software will work cleanly.

      FTFY

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    31. Re:Then you have two problems by Major_Disorder · · Score: 1

      I guess it takes all kinds. I run Linux Mint Cinnamon as my main desktop, and am amazed at how ungodly ugly Win10 is by comparison. I would put my work Mac as slightly ahead of Cinnamon.

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    32. Re:Then you have two problems by akira128 · · Score: 1

      I couldn't help but laugh while reading this comment. It's so true. WTF is an average joe standard-fare windows user even using a raspberry pi for? It's a single-board computer designed to get people (especially kids) interested in computers. It's meant to encourage experimentation and exploration of technology. And...well....Windows isn't really compatible with that ethos. Microsoft is corporate behemoth that creates a proprietary closed-sourced software hindered by all sorts of crazy licenses for the sole purpose of making MONEY. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but Microsoft products in general are geared more towards the corporate environment, not the 'hey I want to find out what makes this thing tick' environment.

    33. Re:Then you have two problems by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      The only reason that they can't do those things is they have no need to. They share documents with each other (and their teachers) all the time, via Google Docs and Google Drive. Not only could I not do that at age 9, no one in the entire world could. If I can now do something that wasn't invented yet when I was that age, then I have high hopes that my kids will be able to do the same.

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    34. Re:Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what about the average joe who would just like to use the OS environment they are already familiar with? That alone is a valid reason to run Windows 10.

      Not a valid reason anymore. Windows 10 might as well be Ensemble Geoworks when you compare it to Windows 7.

    35. Re:Then you have two problems by StormReaver · · Score: 1

      I run Linux Mint Cinnamon as my main desktop, and am amazed at how ungodly ugly Win10 is by comparison.

      I run Kubuntu as my main desktop, and I totally agree with you about how absurdly ugly and unusable all versions of Windows are by comparison.

    36. Re: Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You agree because you're a Linux zealot. You'll eat rancid goat feces before you ever admit to liking anything related to Microsoft.

    37. Re: Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You joke, but it's true. No one ever got laid by saying, "I run GNU/Linux on my PC." Surefire way to shut those legs tighter than Fort Knox.

    38. Re:Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Time for another reason why anyone would want Microsoft Windows on a useful Raspberry Pi. Please note the word "useful"."

      Backblaze or any other unlimited cloud backup service that doesn't have Linux clients. Sure Backblaze has an API for B2 Cloud, but that ceases to be cost-effective around 1TB while their $5/month plan offers unlimited storage.

      However, before even attempting this route, anyone can buy a cheap mini PC with RAM and storage and with Windows 10 preloaded on it from Amazon for about $100 and throw it on a network. It'll run circles around the Pi and it costs less than an OEM Win10 license. The equivalent Raspberry Pi setup might run closer to $200.

    39. Re: Then you have two problems by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      The fact they are industry specific and most people have never heard of them proves they are niche applications applicable to only a tiny subset of employees at a tiny subset of businesses. There are also various niche programs which only run on linux, or solaris, or macos etc. You simply deal with these niche users separately, as they often have other requirements too.

      Most inhouse apps these days are browser based and more are moving this way, the client used is irrelevant. Very few companies are developing new binary inhouse apps tied to a specific platform, anything new is almost always web based and older systems are gradually being replaced.

      For the rest of business users, their needs are very simple, as a consultant i frequently visit client offices and observe what they're doing, the vast majority only really need a browser and it's always possible to provide RDP servers for special cases. They would save a lot of money and significantly improve security by ripping out the windows desktops, and replacing them with chromeos machines.

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    40. Re:Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does it run native on Raspi? If not, that's the point. No apps. Office is just one of many marquee apps that confer value to Windows. Without these running natively why bother?

    41. Re: Then you have two problems by Major_Disorder · · Score: 1

      You agree because you're a Linux zealot. You'll eat rancid goat feces before you ever admit to liking anything related to Microsoft.

      Wrong! I quite like Excel. But when I am forced to use Windows I find a swear a lot more than when I use Linux.
      Your mileage may varry.

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    42. Re:Then you have two problems by Your+Average+Joe · · Score: 1

      us Joe's run MAC OS X and chromebooks...Windows died with XP and when there were 2 billion Android phones and tablets and the backup is the iPad and iPhone at 1 billion...

      VMware got the hypervisor and Docker got the containers, not much left for Microsoft, just little scraps and old dudes running mainframe apps...

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    43. Re: Then you have two problems by Your+Average+Joe · · Score: 1

      go ahead and run that crap on arm... You can't. Your stuck on windows till your vendor listens to the customers.

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    44. Re: Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kubuntu FTW. I only use windows to do a few tax things that were better supported by chrome on windows.

    45. Re: Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Average Joe isn't trying to use a Pi. The only real reason to run Win on Pi is for the challenge of doing it.

    46. Re:Then you have two problems by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      Windows ARM is not great. It doesn't even have chrome.

    47. Re: Then you have two problems by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Never heard of them. Do they run well on ARM?

    48. Re:Then you have two problems by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

      Because Visual Studios abilities are valuable outside of self-hosting

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    49. Re:Then you have two problems by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The iPhone proved that wrong and so has Android

      They did nothing of the sort. They only showed that people will do different activities on different devices in different ways. The only people thinking iOS has displaced the PC for PC related activities (other than e.g. Newspaper or Gameboy activities) are the brain damaged diversity hires running Apple's marketing department who genuinely seem to not know what a computer is.

      I bet you none of them created that advert on the iPad.

    50. Re: Then you have two problems by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      They're all specific to legal firms which is not a small area. The Windows ecosystem is full of such "niche" apps which is why it isn't going anywhere for the time being. Unless you think organisations are desperate to hand over money to Microsoft when they don't have to.

    51. Re: Then you have two problems by SpaceCracker · · Score: 1

      Ha! Poke-and-drool. Command lines rule!

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    52. Re:Then you have two problems by Locutus · · Score: 1

      The comment was about the false belief getting peddled which says that people need to have a familiar user interface(UI)(Microsoft Windows) and having a familiar UI is a benefit. Yes, it took a different hardware platform before people figured that out and some of that had to do with the fact that Microsoft couldn't use its marketing channels to block people from access to that platform(Apple iPhone) like they've done for decades with PC based devices.

      LoB

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    53. Re: Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that SD card thing is such a deal breaker. Why don't more SBCs and phones simply use M.2 PCIe?

    54. Re: Then you have two problems by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Not true. One of my favorite live-in girlfriends was a woman I met while she was working at Informix and I was working at Oracle (so we should have been natural enemies). She was a consummate Unix nerd! Also an ex-stripper from her teen years in Portland.

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    55. Re: Then you have two problems by ukoda · · Score: 1

      And I bet you none of them will run on a RPI running Windows.

      Interestingly I am finding the number Windows only programs is falling off while Linux only and cross platform programs are on the rise. These days I seem to be running into a lot more Windows users who can't run a Linux program than Linux users who can't run a Windows program. I suspect it has a bit to do with the old excuse that "I don't have time to learn Linux" being replaced with "I can't risk another mess like last time I trusted Windows with something important".

    56. Re:Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now ask those kids to add only the pdf and doc files from a certain directory to a zip archive and e-mail them to you after putting a copy on the local fileserver. Wake me up when it takes them less than half an hour.

      I am OS agnostic, I work with anything from embedded systems through ATARI BASIC through modern Linux, Windows and OSX desktops. Only difference is I actually had to learn something and can use the tools in front of me with stunning efficiency. None of the poke-and-drool tools you speak of are nearly as flexible or efficient as even the most basic of desktop operating systems.

      They'd just stick them on Dropbox whilst ignoring your ridiculous, unnecessary and time-wasting complications, you ludicrous old twat. Hopefully they would then complain to management about your ridiculous inefficiency and get you quickly fired.

    57. Re: Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MS has been adding ARM code to Chrome for a while now.

    58. Re:Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      VLC player is now available for native ARM64. WsL gives bash ...
      PortableApplications on a USB Stick is convenient , still x86 emulation.

    59. Re:Then you have two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell - Android doesn't look Android from 1 version to the next!

      RO

  2. You can now peel off your finger nails by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with pliers

    1. Re:You can now peel off your finger nails by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not unless you subscribe to Pliers360

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  3. Forget a raspberry pi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want a hair pie!

    1. Re: Forget a raspberry pi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're going to have to wait until he's out of the White House.

  4. Uh So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My initial reaction was that I'd prefer the O/S from the PDP-8 or even better the PDP-11 rather than Windows. So I'm a snob, big deal.

    1. Re:Uh So by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Sure you would. And all those sweeet peripherals. Like the browser. And the VMs...

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    2. Re: Uh So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The PDP-8 didn't have an OS. Unless you mean the octal sequence you toggled in to bootstrap the high speed paper tape reader to launch FOCAL.

    3. Re: Uh So by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      What was OS8 then?

      And the "Incompatible Timeshare System" (ITS)*?

      It is true a PDP8 was useful without an OS, but if you had more than 4k words of core, you could have an OS if you wanted.

      On my PDP8, ITS supported 2 users, but some people had bigger machines than me!

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  5. Thought this was already possible? by suso · · Score: 1

    Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought this was already possible to do?

    1. Re:Thought this was already possible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could install Windows IoT Core for sure and that's from Microsoft.

    2. Re:Thought this was already possible? by Zarquon · · Score: 1

      It's been supported by Win10 IoT for a while. The article is not specific on what is different in this release.

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    3. Re: Thought this was already possible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Always has been since the thing was released a while back.

    4. Re:Thought this was already possible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It's been supported by Win10 IoT for a while. The article is not specific on what is different in this release."

      Frome TFA:
      "Previously, the only way to run Windows at all was by using Windows IoT Core, but Windows 10 on ARM may be far more capable. "

      Let me guess - you're a Slashdot Editor ?

    5. Re:Thought this was already possible? by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      Yes you could previously install Win 10 ARM on a rpi 3 however you had to do it all manually and it was unable to use all of the cores and there was something with graphics acceleration. This sounds like they just create a simple to use unofficial installer for it. The article doesn't say whether any of the issues where fixed.

      This should not be confused with the Win 10 IoT Core which has been officially available for a long time, this is the Win 10 ARM found on an Asus NavaGo or Lenovo Yoga.
       

    6. Re: Thought this was already possible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calling the statement "might be more capable" SPECIFIC indicates you're more likely the slashdot editor.

  6. One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why?

    1. Re:One question by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      I thought the same thing. It wouldn't even be good for typical Windows gaming, since the RasPi computers don't have an x86 CPU. Also the cost of this OS is many times the cost of the hardware it's running on.

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    2. Re:One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Because.

    3. Re:One question by Tx · · Score: 1

      If you're any kind of nerd, you ought to be at least a little curious. How well does full desktop Windows run on a Pi? WoA has x86 emulation, by the way, so you can run x86 apps on your Pi with this. I don't expect you'll be playing Crysis on it, but again, curious how well that will work.

      What it's actually good for beyond a technical curiosity, that' remains to be seen.

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    4. Re:One question by jwhyche · · Score: 3

      Why?

      That is a the question. We are so consumed with the "can we" that we never stop to ask "should we?"

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    5. Re:One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why?

      Masochism.

      RPi, while a wonderful little machine, was not designed with massive horsepower and speed in mind. Drop a steaming pile of manure on top of it and you can't expect much from the result. Worse still, the only real reason to run Windows is because there's specific software that you can't run on another OS. Take away the x86, and you eliminate that reason, so you're left with "because they said I couldn't do it" as the only real reason to do it.

    6. Re:One question by necro81 · · Score: 1

      Why?

      No, no: you need to deliver it with more drama. Like this.

    7. Re:One question by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

      Aren't more options a good thing? Personally, I'll probably never do it, but the option to do it is nice in the event you ever find yourself needing to (for some god forsaken reason).

    8. Re:One question by Air-conditioned+cowh · · Score: 1

      Why?

      To install WSL on it of course!

    9. Re: One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then run Cygwin under WINE under WSL.

      All that just to get a damn SSH session.

    10. Re:One question by dissy · · Score: 1

      Why?

      Payroll tends to be by far the largest expense a company has.

      It is orders of magnitude easier to justify a windows license that gets rolled up into the price of a product than it is to justify hiring developers that know more than .NET or re-train your existing ones.

      I'm not saying the outcome is a good thing, just that is typically what ends up happening in such situations.

    11. Re:One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's there.

    12. Re:One question by antdude · · Score: 1

      "Why ask why?"

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    13. Re:One question by DeVilla · · Score: 1

      Not really. I'm used to multi-platform support in kernels and API and cross compilation of systems. It's a scales down system but I've seen those before and simulate them on occasion. Windows supporting more than is only remarkable because Microsoft decided to try (and no-one else has the choice in the case of Windows).

      The binary translator to make windows software work on an Open Pandora is more interesting. And again, it's only interesting because the people involved don't have to source to do a proper port.

  7. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by AlanObject · · Score: 1

    I run a Windows 10 VM on my Mac for those few software packages that need it. Most notably Solidworks and some MRP software. Office 365 runs on the Mac just fine.

    So why would I do this on a Pi?

    1. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      I can see a use case for signage or a kiosk terminal where you only need a browser or very specific software like a terminal.

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    2. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All of which one can do with a Linux based OS with a much greater degree of flexibility.

    3. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Not if any of your software requires Windows

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    4. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by geoskd · · Score: 2

      I can see a use case for signage or a kiosk terminal where you only need a browser or very specific software like a terminal.

      A simple linux distro (virtually any one will do) with chrome, accomplishes this same task, and can be stripped down to run on a 256MB sdcard if absulutely necessary.

      Your way requires a several GB sdcard, and introduces god-only-knows how many security holes, all so that you can run a web browser.

      Also, if you are selling signs, you probably don't want to have to charge an extra $50 for the sign to account for the cost of the OS license.

      TL;DR, MS Windows is the wrong answer if you are not running x86 hardware, and even then, it might still be the wrong answer.

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    5. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      I have never said you can’t use Linux on a Pi for the use case. What I said is that a Pi running Windows 10 can be used for the use case. You are the second person to chime in on that you can use Linux. So what? Someone using Windows 10 on a Pi for this purpose might have a limitation that requires Windows.

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    6. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which doesn't really make much of a difference as very little of that software that requires Windows is going to be recompiled for ARM.

    7. Re: Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Such as...

    8. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by CoolCash · · Score: 1

      You are literally comparing Apples to berries. Of course a VM on a $2000 core i5 with 32gb of ram computer running an Intel processor will "run windows just fine." Because a PI starts at $35, there might be some specific apps you might want to run. Actually the IOT Windows core is nice.

    9. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      So you are 100% sure that any software you would put on this device if you used it as a kiosk or signage doesn’t require Windows. You can use Linux in some cases is not the same as Linux must be used at all times.

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    10. Re: Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      I don’t know. What I do know is that “Linux must be used” isn’t always the answer. What I do know is that there are multiple companies that sells software like Front Face that effectively locks down Windows into a kiosk. Why don’t you tell that company they shouldn’t exist and that everyone should just use Linux instead.

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    11. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      aaaaand yet Linux continues to be #1 in vulnerabilities

      https://www.cvedetails.com/top...

      lols

    12. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      And there are 3 main reasons for this...

      1, the same reason windows is #1 for desktop malware - linux is everywhere, from supercomputers to routers, and actual running instances of the linux kernel probably outnumber windows 10:1 or more. Many people may have 1 windows desktop, plus a linux based router or access point, tv running linux, android phone with a linux kernel etc.

      2, windows comes with very little application software or drivers, these tend to be distributed separately - the linux kernel comes with support for a wide array of hardware and most distros come with a huge suite of applications usually including multiple different applications you can choose from to accomplish any task.

      3, linux is developed in the open so vulnerabilities discovered and fixed during early development of a new feature are public, windows is developed behind closed doors so bugs found at this stage are never made public, typically unless a vulnerability in windows is discovered by a member of the public it won't be published, if its discovered internally at microsoft or by a company thats under nda it is likely to be fixed silently and not disclosed.

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    13. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by geoskd · · Score: 1

      Someone using Windows 10 on a Pi for this purpose might have a limitation that requires Windows.

      And What I'm saying is that: No, they won't.

      The only real (read as rational) reasons for Windows all relate around x86. Once you part with x86, all of the reasonable windows requirements go out the window (pun intended). Not only that, there are multiple economic, technological and moral reasons to stay the hell away from windows. The people here who are telling you to use linux are not doing so out of any particular agenda, they are trying to be helpful and share a lifetime of experience that says those who know what they are going use linux, and for good reasons.

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    14. Re: Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Sure, but none of that stuff is built for arm. If you want to run Scala or something (the titling/signage software, not the programming language) then you're running it on x86. And what's more, you're going to need a current CPU, a decent GPU, or both. So once more, what in hell is this good for? There is no meaningful software which can be run on it. There's not even enough RAM on the platform to browse the web decently.

      Running Windows IoT core on raspi makes sense if all your developers are windows developers, and you want to do some kind of embedded task. But running full windows 10? That makes no sense at all.

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    15. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by geoskd · · Score: 1

      You need to look a lot more carefully at what is in those lists: For example, velnerabilities in the Tux webserver are attributed to linux in spite of the fact that almost no one running linux runs tux. The majority of the vulnerabilities (more than 50% by my informal count) attributed to Linux, in that list, are in fact in rarely installed packages and utilities, meaning that by default nobody is exposed to them. Windows vulnerabilities by contrast are all in tools and services that are installed and active by default meaning that any windows install of that type is susceptible to them. I have also noticed that the same vulnerability (Ping DOS susceptibility) was attributed to every single Linux distribution, and in fact every flavor of every distro, whereas some individual windows vulnerabilites were attributed only to a single version of windows, even if the description actually claimed it affected multiple versions

      Either wittingly, or unwittingly, you are spreading outright statistical lies by passing this kind of thing off as a real statistical analysis.

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    16. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Virtually all kiosks are now web kiosks, and you're better off using Linux for that unless the site you're targeting requires Aieeeeee! In that case, just shoot yourself, it will be a lot less painful.

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    17. Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is biggest piece of bullshit if I've ever seen one. No, none of what you said is true.

      The Windows kernel has FEWER vulnerabilities than the Linux kernel. This is just an irrefutable fact.

      If you compare a default Windows install to any Linux distro, its simply no contest... open source bugs galore..

      But yeah, you'll have to take your head out of the sand to understand it.

  8. One Key advantage by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    Compared to Linux (xwindows) making GUI applications with .NET and Visual Studio is a lot easier. I have seen projects with the Raspberry pi such as smart mirrors or low end kiosks. Which being able to make GUI applications, or that hook up to Microsoft type services such as Active Directory or even SQL server. Just that much easier to accomplish.

    Having said that, doing this in Linux isn't too much more difficult, but if you are primarily a Microsoft Developer, thinking Linux Like is a learning curve you may not want to deal with.

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    1. Re:One Key advantage by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have seen projects with the Raspberry pi such as smart mirrors or low end kiosks.

      This will be the only smart mirror that spends most of its time showing a popup like this:

      Heads up - We're working hard to make your Raspberry Pi even better! We need to restart now and show you spinning dots while we install the latest updates and "telemetry". This could take a few hours or days.

      Lose all work and restart now? [ OK ] [ Yes ] [ Confirm ].

    2. Re:One Key advantage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surely you haven't seen Qt, a way more easier and enjoyable than Windows GUI development.

    3. Re:One Key advantage by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Compared to Linux (xwindows) making GUI applications with .NET and Visual Studio is a lot easier. I have seen projects with the Raspberry pi such as smart mirrors or low end kiosks. Which being able to make GUI applications, or that hook up to Microsoft type services such as Active Directory or even SQL server.

      I don't buy it. I can't think of single good reason not use a restricted browser to deliver a web application to a kiosk. Either you are doing something complex enough to require sitting down or its probably just CRUD. If its just CURD a web browser is good enough. That might as well be chromium or firefox and that might as well be on a hardended kiosk distro.

      Than you build you application in whatever you like. That can be .Net and SQLServer; authored in Visual Studio. Then you can run it all on Windows -or- Linux.

      BONUS you don't have to figure out how to update a bunch of kiosks when you make changes to the application.

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    4. Re:One Key advantage by StormReaver · · Score: 1

      Compared to Linux (xwindows) making GUI applications with .NET and Visual Studio is a lot easier.

      That's quite the false comparison you chose. A more appropriate comparison is making user interfaces with Dot Net vs. Java, and I find the latter to be FAR more productive and easy to use than the former. With Dot Net, I'm locked into a prison with horny, masochistic, ass-hungry guards.

    5. Re:One Key advantage by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      If you're primarily a linux developer, then doing it on linux is easier. It's about familiarity rather than any one platform being easier.

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    6. Re:One Key advantage by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Qt is pretty easy to use. And when you're done you've got a GUI app that runs on anything.

      I realize .net technically might run on OS X and Linux as well, but it's a PITA to actually get working, and when you do it's fugly.

    7. Re: One Key advantage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Qt is rather expensive to use commercially though (if you are not fine with LGPL, which can be a bit of a hassle if you want to use a version not included with OS).
      But even then there is still Mono (monodevelop has a GUI editor I believe), Java, Lazarus, ...
      And then again those GUI editors often are not exactly as great as claimed, and writing the UI in code can easily be the better and easier approach.

  9. "in other news" by aod7br7932 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Raspberry Pi 3 Model B mouse took just a day to move the mouse across the screen on windows 10"

    1. Re: "in other news" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try lowering your screen resolution from 7680*4320 in a 1*10,000 setup.

      Or you know, just be funnier with your lies.

    2. Re:"in other news" by Espectr0 · · Score: 1

      ironically that's exactly what happens on raspbian, it's a known bug and they don't fix it

  10. But... why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Now you can put manure in you espresso machine!

  11. I would ask why, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While the RasPI series of boards is great, I find myself extending beyond them.

    There are other ARM series boards, that provide a bit more power or features, that I find lacking with what the RasPi3 has honestly. Dont' get me wrong. I have several RasPi boards running actively in my house. However...

    If you look up ARMBIAN Linux, it will give you a quick idea of other boards, less marketed out there that are available, and with solid communities around them.
    The Asus Tinkerboard for instance, which I have, fits in a RasPi3 case just fine. Was likely engineered for that particular fact.

    That said, WinARM on these type of boards.. leaves me luke warm. The general use of these boards is probably media boxes in some fashion, so unless WMP, VLC, KODI or the like run today on WinARM, or Chrome/Chromium with possible full support for the primary 3 streaming services ( Netflix,Hulu, Amazon).... I can say WinARM abillity today for me, leaves a bit to be desired.

    Looking at what you can download, appears you need a Windows OS to deploy from, for the card? Ho hum... Will have to skip it then.
    If someone can point out how to deploy this from Linux, please chime in!

    1. Re:I would ask why, but... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      While my Nextcloud on Raspi is working, I want more. And it isn;t going to come from Windows unless someone (?) hacks up Windows Server to run the ARM kernel, and even then it's not at all attractive.

      I'm more likely to figure out which of the competitive ARM boards is a good deal if I want more performance.

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  12. Yeah, but... by sidekick2 · · Score: 1

    Does it blend?

    1. Re:Yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      send one to blendtech and see!

  13. Does Win10 "Run" on the RasPI or does it Crawl? by mykepredko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My biggest complaint about Win10 is really how slowly it runs on fairly low end machines (which I can load Mint or ChromeOS and they run acceptably). Note that the RasPI 3 runs ChromeOS quite as well.

    So you have Win10 executing on the RasPI, but does respond in anyway that is acceptable? This includes loading and executing apps.

    1. Re:Does Win10 "Run" on the RasPI or does it Crawl? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it can blink the cursor OK.

    2. Re:Does Win10 "Run" on the RasPI or does it Crawl? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is painfully slow on high end machines too.

    3. Re:Does Win10 "Run" on the RasPI or does it Crawl? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it can blink the cursor OK.

      My cursor winks!

    4. Re:Does Win10 "Run" on the RasPI or does it Crawl? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you must be holding it wrong.

    5. Re:Does Win10 "Run" on the RasPI or does it Crawl? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Windows 10 on a PC is not the same as Windows 10 on ARM. For one you don't need to worry about Windows eating up so much of your RAM that Office won't start ... because Office for ARM doesn't exist.

  14. Sure, but why the fuck would you do that!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sure, but why the fuck would you do that!?

    1. Re:Sure, but why the fuck would you do that!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people are just pure evil.

  15. The capabilities of Average Joes... by mykepredko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And less sarcastically... what about the average joe who would just like to use the OS environment they are already familiar with? That alone is a valid reason to run Windows 10.

    How many "average joes" do you know that can properly configure an SD card with an OS to run on a RasPI?

    1. Re:The capabilities of Average Joes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many "average joes" can partition a hard drive and install Windows 10? I'm sure anyone that wants this who doesn't know how to do it will just buy some kit or SD card off Amazon or ebay.

    2. Re:The capabilities of Average Joes... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      How many "average joes" do you know that can properly configure an SD card with an OS to run on a RasPI?

      Download a program, download a binary, open program select the only option in the program to open the binary file and click write? All with the aid of well written instructions?

      I'm going to go with ALL of the average joes.

    3. Re:The capabilities of Average Joes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By this metric my grandma was a genius at operating the VCR but really just wanted me to learn it too?

  16. What about OS/2 Warp !!! by martiniturbide · · Score: 1

    I want OS/2 Warp on a Raspberry PI !!!!!! OS2World.com

  17. No GUI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No GUI though.

  18. "You Can Now Run Windows 10 on the Raspberry Pi3" by rnturn · · Score: 2

    But the question is: Why would you want to? Are there ARM versions of all the applications that people you might consider running on their R-Pi? If not, then this is an exercise about as pointless as someone successfully running Word on an iWatch.

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  19. 10 Minute boot time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, no discussion of how much of your life will be wasted in order to see that glorious blue screen of death as you try to register your copy of Windows 10. Don't forget to buy another copy of the OS. lol

  20. Oh, yeah, sure, I'll get right on that by SIGBUS · · Score: 2

    The link on the Github page points to rg-adguard.net, under an anonymous Russian registration. Sounds legit!

    Not really. If I were even considering the idea of running Windows on a Pi, I'd rather get it directly from Microsoft.

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    1. Re:Oh, yeah, sure, I'll get right on that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a Raspberry Pi with Windows 10 pre-installed and save $30 off the sales price!

    2. Re:Oh, yeah, sure, I'll get right on that by Espectr0 · · Score: 1

      read https://github.com/WOA-Project...

      it pulls the files directly from microsoft

    3. Re:Oh, yeah, sure, I'll get right on that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That way you know they are spying on you.

  21. But but but.... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    WHY??

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  22. Paltry RAM - Weak Ports by BrendaEM · · Score: 1

    A Raspberry Pi would be so compelling if it had 4GB Ram, and it's ports were 5v, and as durable as an Arduino.

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    1. Re:Paltry RAM - Weak Ports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think people miss the point of the Pi. I don't believe it was ever envisioned to be a desktop replacement but instead useful for embedded applications. If you want a desktop computer then purchase a desktop motherboard.

    2. Re: Paltry RAM - Weak Ports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Rpi suxks. It needs to run full windows and office, support a pair of m2 nvme slots, have 64GB of memory, dual full speed ten Gb nics, usb 3, and about twenty fines as many cores and Ghz and needs a real GPU, like a vega 64 or a 2180gtx. It shouldn't get so hot it needs third party heat sinks or a fan to be added.

      Also, it should only be $20, transform into a hover car and run on wishful thinking.

    3. Re:Paltry RAM - Weak Ports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use a level shifter/buffer. You really shouldn't be directly driving anything off the RPi's GPIOs anyways, unless you want to risk blowing them

    4. Re:Paltry RAM - Weak Ports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A Raspberry Pi would be so compelling if it had 4GB Ram, and it's ports were 5v, and as durable as an Arduino.

      Raspberry Pi is underpowered crap. Much more powerful SBCs for about the same cost are readily available elsewhere.

    5. Re:Paltry RAM - Weak Ports by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      The Pi was intended as an educational toy. It was supposed to be a dirt cheap way to get kids interested in computing and a bit of electronics. It does that quite well.

  23. Like a dog playing the piano by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
    The wonder is that it can. Not what it plays.

    As for running W10 on a board with 1GB of memory and a micro-SD card, is there really any point?

    It should also be remembered that the only reason to run any version of Windows is to get access to the applications available. What apps are there for an ARM board running Windows. And what drivers, too?

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  24. Why ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... would you want to infect a perfectly good Pi?

  25. so wrong on many levels by stooo · · Score: 2

    >>You Can Now Run Windows 10
    That is so wrong on many levels.
    Nobody should ever have to run W10.

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  26. Raspbian by maxrate · · Score: 1

    Good to see other OSes as slow on the RPi3+ as well - I thought I was doing something wrong!

  27. Not that it matters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a whole ecosystem of examples, tools, libraries, and helper utilities that go with Raspberry Pi built on Linux and it will be a PITA to shoehorn them into Windows or start from scratch to accomplish the same thing. Win10 on Pi is kinda DOA.

  28. You mean 60 minute boot time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every time you start up or shut down it will be "applying patches", also shortening the life of your SD card

  29. Awesome! by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    Now I can run an operating system that drastically impedes productivity on hardware that should never be considered sufficient to run it. Is this just Microsoft trying to out-NetBSD the netBSD folks?

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  30. As others have said, Why? by Miser · · Score: 1

    Why in all that is holy would you want to pollute a Pi3 with Windows, even worse the tinker toy that is Windows 10?

  31. But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why oh why oh why would anyone want to use Windows on an R-Pi? Is this some new form of digital masochism?

  32. I'm still a "Windows guy" and I must ask, WHY? by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    I might run Windows on my laptop and my Desktop and have done since 3.0 but good lord, on a Pi? Why would you do this?

    I'm so very impressed with my Pi and the flavour of linux which comes with it.
    Linux is streamlined and reliable. It's predictable. If you ask it to do something, properly, it will do it, indefinitely.

    The GUI that comes with the Pi is actually not half bad for speed either. Windows just isn't going to work well with that amount of memory.

    At one point I wouldn't dream of anything but Windows in my house, now I have FreeBSD (NAS) I have linux for my HTPC (libreelec) and Linux for my DNS / home automation (Pi / Docker / Pi Hole / Hass.io)

    I still don't mind Windows for Desktop, but man. Microsofts stuff doesn't belong on a Pi

  33. Just as fast as my modified corvette by hawk · · Score: 1

    I went out and found a VW engine, and swapped it into my corvette. Oooh, the bicyclists and pedestrians "ooh" in envy once we crest the hill and I pass them . . .

    My next project *was* going to be putting Windows on a Pi, but since that's been done, I guess I'll move on to putting Microsoft BASIC 2.0 onto an Arduino . . .

    hawk

  34. Re:"You Can Now Run Windows 10 on the Raspberry Pi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Nobody do anything unless you've solved everything all at once!" That's the spirit.

    I can see you in the 60s. "The moon? Why? Nobody can breathe there! There aren't any diners!"

  35. It isn't 1997 anymore, people. by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 1

    Cue the predictable tired old rants of slashbots who haven't figured out that it isn't 1997 anymore. They don't get much more penguin-headed than me, and I'm typing this message on a computer running Windows. Guess what, people: WE WON. Linux runs the whole world except for the conventional desktop. Look at it this way: if Microsoft hasn't taken over the rest of the world by now, it's not going to. At the same time, if Linux hasn't captured the conventional desktop by now, it's not going to. In other words, it's safe to use a Windows desktop now if it's less friction for you. You don't have to be ashamed, you don't have to be afraid that you're contributing to the downfall of computing. Linux owns 100% of supercomputing, the lion's share of the cloud and mobile, it runs the Internet, it's the embedded OS of choice, and it dominates the IoT. Don't worry about the desktop -- it simply isn't important anymore.

    That having been said, I'm not sure why one would want to run Windows on a Raspberry Pi, since as others have pointed out, it fails to provide the #1 benefit of running Windows: the vast library of x86 Windows software.

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    1. Re:It isn't 1997 anymore, people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MAybe you are not old enough to have been around when Linux started. I was.
      Linux continues to get better.
      Serious applications for it continue to get better
      The range of applications for it continues to increase

      Windows has stagnated.
      Microsoft's focus now is not on innovation, but better ways to get money from us.

      Hang around a few more decades and you will see what I mean.

  36. Re:Then you have two problemsScott by andrewa · · Score: 1

    "more of a dare (like scottish cuisine) "
    Somebody has been watching 'So I Married an Axe Murderer"....

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  37. And nothing of value was gained by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

  38. SMACK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You aren't suppose to do this! Use Windows 7! not 10! BAP BAP BAP

  39. Re:"You Can Now Run Windows 10 on the Raspberry Pi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks like Netflix https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/netflix/9wzdncrfj3tj?activetab=pivot:regionofsystemrequirementstab and Hulu https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/hulu/9wzdncrfj3l1?#activetab=pivot:regionofsystemrequirementstab are possibilities although if possible, I would prefer to use one of the other more powerful ARM SBCs.

  40. NSA spy devices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just install windoze 10 on a raspi and have your very own portable self surveillance system.

  41. but, why by speedlaw · · Score: 1

    I applaud whatever work was done to make this happen, but why would you run Win 10 if you have any choice ? I've a work machine with 7 and it's fine. I have one 10 machine, which confirms my mac bias for normal use.....

  42. The Microsoft that's always been in bed with NSA? by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    And has spyware and a keylogger built into their operating system - but derp Russia!

  43. Not Warp in long time. Called by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Decommissioned Station last I knew.

  44. False False False. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    , the same reason windows is #1 for desktop malware - linux is everywhere, from supercomputers to routers, and actual running instances of the linux kernel probably outnumber windows 10:1 or more. Many people may have 1 windows desktop, plus a linux based router or access point, tv running linux, android phone with a linux kernel etc.

    Looks like Linux developers keep introducing more and more security bugs. Anyone got banned from the community yet?

    2, windows comes with very little application software or drivers, these tend to be distributed separately - the linux kernel comes with support for a wide array of hardware and most distros come with a huge suite of applications usually including multiple different applications you can choose from to accomplish any task.

    Okay, but the Windows kernel has FEWER vulnerabilities than the Linux kernel. What happened to all those eyes? Where are they looking?

    3, linux is developed in the open so vulnerabilities discovered and fixed during early development of a new feature are public, windows is developed behind closed doors so bugs found at this stage are never made public, typically unless a vulnerability in windows is discovered by a member of the public it won't be published, if its discovered internally at microsoft or by a company thats under nda it is likely to be fixed silently and not disclosed.

    That is entirely wrong. If a Windows update fixes a security bug, Microsoft issues a security advisory and the bug is publicly categorizied and a severity is assigned to it. Its called a Security Bulletin, and it has been happening this way for decades.

    Nice try though, almost..

    1. Re:False False False. by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      Okay, but the Windows kernel has FEWER vulnerabilities than the Linux kernel. What happened to all those eyes? Where are they looking?

      Fewer disclosed vulnerabilities, as well as fewer features and more separation between core kernel and drivers.

      What happened to all those eyes? Where are they looking?

      Clearly those eyes are looking, and thats why the vulnerabilities are being found and fixed.

      That is entirely wrong. If a Windows update fixes a security bug, Microsoft issues a security advisory and the bug is publicly categorizied and a severity is assigned to it. Its called a Security Bulletin, and it has been happening this way for decades.

      Only when the security bug has been discovered externally by a third party who is planning to disclose (or use) the bug anyway. There have been several cases of updates also silently fixing undisclosed bugs as well as those declared in the update advisory.
      Security bugs fixed during the development cycle are not disclosed, or point me to the list of security advisories fixed during the alpha/beta cycle of any windows version?

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