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FDA Warns Against Using Young Blood As Medical Treatment (cnn.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNN: The U.S. Food and Drug Administration warned Tuesday against using plasma infusions from young blood donors to ward off the effects of normal aging as well as other more serious conditions. Plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, contains proteins that help clot blood. The infusions are promoted to treat a variety of conditions, including normal aging and memory loss as well as serious conditions such as dementia, multiple sclerosis, heart disease and post-traumatic stress disorder.

"There is no proven clinical benefit of infusion of plasma from young donors to cure, mitigate, treat, or prevent these conditions, and there are risks associated with the use of any plasma product," FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb wrote in a statement Tuesday. "The reported uses of these products should not be assumed to be safe or effective," he added, noting that the FDA "strongly" discourages consumers from using this therapy "outside of clinical trials under appropriate institutional review board and regulatory oversight." Gottlieb said that "a growing number of clinics" are offering plasma from young donors and similar therapies, though he did not name any in particular.

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  1. yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hopefully this will lower young blood prices, been awhile since I've had a good drink.

    1. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Young pussy is better. But not too young. That would be weird. And her mom might complain.

    2. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    3. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Hopefully this will lower young blood prices

      A drop in plasma prices is not a good thing. If billionaires like Peter Thiel pay even less to their penurious blood boys, that just increases income inequality in America.

    4. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      Income inequality is a problem but it's certainly not the biggest or most pressing issue with a medically unnecessary waste of precious lifesaving bodily tissues... paying blood donors should be illegal anyway.

    5. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you think it should be illegal to sell part of yourself to someone who wants to buy it? Is it not your body?

    6. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      a medically unnecessary waste of precious lifesaving bodily tissues...

      This is just silly. There is no shortage of plasma. There is only a shortage of incentives for people to donate. If Peter stops his injections, it is not like that plasma is going to someone else.

      paying blood donors should be illegal anyway.

      Blood donors are not paid. Plasma donors are.

      Payments for plasma are illegal in most of Europe. The obvious result is that they buy plasma from America where it comes from paid donors. America is, by far, the world's biggest plasma exporter.

      Lesson from economics 101: Incentives work.

    7. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to buy your head for a footstool. It's obviously under-utilized as is.

    8. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " There is only a shortage of incentives for people to donate. " - Marketing speak for there's a plasma shortage. Merchandising your body parts has bigger problems than simple income inequality, and they come quickly.

      Income inequality simply exacerbates existing problem dynamics. Adding incentive doesn't solve that issue either.

      "If Peter stops his injections, it is not like that plasma is going to someone else." - Actually that's exactly what it means.

      Economics lesson 101: A giant sucking sound that is stopped by common sense regulation leaves more of any commodity behind for everyone else.

    9. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Marketing speak for there's a plasma shortage.

      1. There is no shortage of plasma. I don't know why you think there is.
      2. If there is a shortage, the obvious and immediate fix is to raise the price.

      Merchandising your body parts has bigger problems than simple income inequality

      "Body parts"? Selling plasma is little different than selling urine. Donating is harmless.

    10. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://blood.ca/en/plasma/plasma-sufficiency
      http://ukpips.org.uk/world-wide-blood-plasma-shortage/
      http://www.ktre.com/story/38791016/lufkin-plasma-donation-center-reacts-to-national-plasma-shortage/

      "In addition, many treatments are so plasma-intensive that they collectively require millions of liters of it each year; a year’s worth of therapy for someone with hemophilia might require the yield of as many as 1,200 donations. So, not only is there no substitute for plasma, but enormous volumes of it are needed. On top of that, global demand for it has steadily risen as many countries’ populations age and need more treatments that require plasma."

      "These days, a liter of plasma that costs a company about $150 to collect and process could sell for in the neighborhood of $500—a substantial markup in any industry."

      I mean, basic economics 101, too bad you don't get this somehow? Not my problem.

      Learn to read, Bill. So your blathering is more founded next time, ya know?

    11. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh snap, propaganda Bill was taught to read? Unpossible.

    12. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

      Wow you're a moron. Plasma donation involves time, wnergy, and a minor risk to the donator. As such, without incentives, not nearly as many people would donate. Economics 101. As an aside, did you attend the same econ courses as AOC?

    13. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by mysidia · · Score: 2

      2. If there is a shortage, the obvious and immediate fix is to raise the price.

      That's no good, when the product's primarily donated to save lives,
      and the people who need it need it or they'll die --- and either Insurance will absorb whatever the cost was, or they can't afford it, because a unit of the donated plasma costs multiple thousands of $$$ .

      The rich folks, however, who are willing to plunk down $10k to try it as a new aging fix, on the other hand, aren't going to be affected much by a price increase ---- price increases hurt primarily the folks in need of life-saving care who are out-of-network, whose insurance covers 80%.

    14. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Plasma donation involves time, wnergy, and a minor risk to the donator." That's mostly bullshit. I donate both blood and platelets, the latter takes about 15 minutes longer or so. Overdraw risk is comparable either way.
      It's no more painful or risky or anything like that. Almost entirely bullshit. And because they need plasma at such a clip and lightly encourage that, I give plasma mostly now. For free of course. Paying for tissues is sick.

      Besides, you really think the people who need $30 to live and feed themselves are taking proper care of their plasma? There's all kinds of risks in taking just anyone's blood products. Frankly the screening is inadequate.
      Paying people doesn't solve that problem either. It just incentivizes the lowest agency of society to be your almost exclusive donor pool.

      The cost and scarcity will increase until artificial blood is a reality, and we're a pretty long way from that as a viable long-term option. So give if you care and are healthy and if you need $30... get a job?
      Selling blood is a ridiculously bad idea all around even given the small artificial boost advertising a small financial incentive brings. Which is why most civilized places ban that. YMMV.

      Economics 102, it doesn't stop at 101 derp.

    15. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      a unit of the donated plasma costs multiple thousands of $$$ .

      A donor typically gets paid about $50. So 95% of that cost is due to other factors.

      The only result of paying donors is WAY more plasma available. Enough so that America can supply much of the world.

      Europe's ban on payments is idiotic. They do it on health grounds, because supposedly "free" plasma is healthier (based on no evidence), but they get so few donors, that they end up buying plasma from paid donors in America. How does that make any sense?

    16. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      There's all kinds of risks in taking just anyone's blood products.

      For blood, yes. For plasma, no.

      Blood is alive, and can harbor diseases. Plasma has no living tissue, and is sterilized before infusion.

    17. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bill, every time you pull shit out of your ass and eat it, your tiny balls shrink a little more. You are not a phlebotomist obviously. You've already been corrected you illiterate moron.
         

    18. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A donor typically gets paid about $50. So 95% of that cost is due to other factors.

      In the US, you might get $50 for each of your first few "donations", but it quickly drops to $20 - 25 after the new donor bonuses run out. Oh, and a free Gatorade. By law, you're limited to two bleedings per week.

    19. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You drink out of your bath tub? Gross.

    20. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I donate things all the time. Time, money, and more. I do it without expecting any compensation because I'm not some emotionally stunted libertarian crank.

      You're surrounded by civilization, maybe give it a try sometime and see if you like it.

    21. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by MikeS2k · · Score: 1

      Why is it that a lot of rich old men seem to be unnaturally interested in the fluids of young teenage boys?
      Especially those on the Religious Right. The more they preach Jesus and Moral Values, the more likely they are to have an interest in these young boys. Injecting their blood is one of the least perverse things these guys are doing.

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    22. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting observation Mike. I guess it's probably due to the fact that the left has scooped up all the hetero rapists to use as funders and leaders for women's rights causes.

      Because...you know, that's a thing so prevalent nobody needs to Google it!

    23. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Your blood is naturally replaced. Heads are not. One can already sell blood for research purposes.. Is that somehow more moral than selling it to some weirdo who wants to drink it or something?

      Hell, it's perfectly legal to use your blood as paint... And you can sell the painting....

    24. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      That's no good, when the product's primarily donated to save lives

      Too bad. Obviously if there's a shortage you need to convince more people to offer up plasma.. Want mine? Open your checkbook. I don't buy in to your communistic approach to products (plasma) that I generate with my body.

      I highly suspect that there wouldn't be anything close to a plasma shortage if healthy people were incentivised to donate blood, with cash payments, at whatever level the free market decided it was worth.

      I suspect your opposition to this idea is ideological and not rational.

    25. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by jpaine619 · · Score: 4, Informative

      In the US, you might get $50 for each of your first few "donations"........... By law, you're limited to two bleedings per week.

      No... While your statement regarding two "bleedings" per week might be valid for some jurisdictions, you specified the US as a whole, and your data is wrong.

      California limits you to one bleeding per MONTH.

      In California, you are only allowed to donate plasma every 28 days. If you are 16, you are only allowed to donate two times in a 12-month period.

    26. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by jpaine619 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I donate things all the time. Time, money, and more. I do it without expecting any compensation because I'm not some emotionally stunted libertarian crank.

      You're surrounded by civilization, maybe give it a try sometime and see if you like it.

      Ah yes, the good old "Everyone who ever expects to be paid for anything I disagree with is a nazi, libertarian, asshole, meanie face.

      It's good to see your donations are not altruistic. If they were you wouldn't be using them like clubs to beat shame into those who want to be paid for their time.

    27. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Hopefully this will lower young blood prices

      A drop in plasma prices is not a good thing. If billionaires like Peter Thiel pay even less to their penurious blood boys, that just increases income inequality in America.

      Just seems like a good way to get yourself aids or hepatitis or god knows what other disease if you ask me.

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    28. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      "Plasma donation involves time, wnergy, and a minor risk to the donator." That's mostly bullshit. I donate both blood and platelets, the latter takes about 15 minutes longer or so. Overdraw risk is comparable either way. It's no more painful or risky or anything like that. Almost entirely bullshit. And because they need plasma at such a clip and lightly encourage that, I give plasma mostly now. For free of course. Paying for tissues is sick.

      Besides, you really think the people who need $30 to live and feed themselves are taking proper care of their plasma? There's all kinds of risks in taking just anyone's blood products. Frankly the screening is inadequate. Paying people doesn't solve that problem either. It just incentivizes the lowest agency of society to be your almost exclusive donor pool.

      The cost and scarcity will increase until artificial blood is a reality, and we're a pretty long way from that as a viable long-term option. So give if you care and are healthy and if you need $30... get a job? Selling blood is a ridiculously bad idea all around even given the small artificial boost advertising a small financial incentive brings. Which is why most civilized places ban that. YMMV.

      Economics 102, it doesn't stop at 101 derp.

      I'm with the other guy, if you want my blood or plasma or whatever then show me the cash. I'm not dragging myself down to where ever and going through that for a warm fuzzy.

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    29. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      precious lifesaving bodily tissues

      You seem to be under the impression that blood is rare. It is not rare, therefore it is not precious. In the US it's worth about $20-$50, which is what a donor gets paid. There is no shortage of blood except during catastrophes, and then it has been shown repeatedly that health professionals only need to ask and they will get all the donors they need.

    30. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

      Want mine? Open your checkbook. I don't buy in to your communistic approach to products (plasma) that I generate with my body.

      Especially since there are companies making good money on selling blood and plasma. It's only reasonable if the actual donor gets a cut.

    31. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      The reason why it tends to be frowned upon is that a lot of people would sell parts without understanding the long term consequences. I donate blood regularly. Most of the time it is a non issue, sometimes I am worn out for a day or two. I understand that and plan for it. However for others doing it for money may give too much, and if they are doing to pay for drugs the lack of blood makes it worse. And the blood may not be donatible.

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    32. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Payments for plasma are illegal in most of Europe.
      That is nonsense.

      Blood donors are not paid. Plasma donors are.
      While it is still called "donation", all donors are payed. About 25EURO per donation.
      And "blood donors" get a slightly higher pay, but can only donate about every 6 weeks, while plasma donors can donate more often (I believe 4 weeks).

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    33. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      "Body parts"? Selling plasma is little different than selling urine. Donating is harmless.
      It is not.
      You get hit by a truck the moment after donating, or a few days later, you wished you had not donated.

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    34. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Europe's ban on payments is idiotic.
      There is no ban in Europe. How do you come to that retarded idea?

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    35. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Plasma has no living tissue, and is sterilized before infusion.
      That is double wrong.
      It is not sterilized, what would be the point of that?
      And yes it has living "tissue", otherwise it would be completely pointless to donate and infuse it. E.g. thrombocytes.

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    36. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am seriously hoping that Thiel develops the transfusion-associated graft-versus-host disease that he so richly deserves for propagating this bullshit.

    37. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Too bad. Obviously if there's a shortage you need to convince more people to offer up plasma..

      Well... I do have an idea.. Plasma Taxation. Simple:
      Attach some essential privileges like maintaining a driver's license to donating at least 1 unit of blood once per year, or 1 unit of plasma at least once every 3 years.
      Don't want to donate? Fine. But you cannot have a driver's license, and X other privileges,
      unless you can show a proven medical reason that makes you ineligible to donate blood/plasma.

    38. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      funny you think someone should be paying you for your time

      your time is absolutely worthless

      econ 102

    39. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      Simple: Attach some essential privileges like maintaining a driver's license to donating at least 1 unit of blood once per year, or 1 unit of plasma at least once every 3 years. Don't want to donate? Fine. But you cannot have a driver's license, and X other privileges, unless you can show a proven medical reason that makes you ineligible to donate blood/plasma.

      Holy fuck.... You're mental. I can't imagine your idea would be taken seriously in any western democracy. Not even the most socialist assholes would.... holy fucksticks...

    40. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      I'm gonna point out, also, that not only are you totally mental, you're the most pure example of an evil communist possible. Rather than dangle a monetary carrot in front of someone to convince them to do what you want them to do, you'd rather use the full force of government against them and until you force them to bend to your will you'd deny them a freedom that is rarely banned in even the most heavily authoritarian regimes.

    41. Re: yay cheaper young blood for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your blood is naturally replaced. Heads are not.

      American, presumably? Speak for yourself!

    42. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by mysidia · · Score: 1

      you'd rather use the full force of government against them and until you force them
      No such thing.... I am not suggesting forcing them in any way, and we're not talking about preventing access to any essential things, or any essential liberties even so important as food, water, etc.

      My proposal would not run afoul of anything like the US Constitution or the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, etc. There is nothing any more communist or authoritarian than that I suggested than what the state already does in terms of regulation, such as prohibiting compensated organ donations.

      In the end this would save lives and save the governments and individuals money, and provide the greatest good for the whole of society.

      Furthermore, this would be in-line with the European Commission's directive 2002/98/EC that wants member states of the EU to encourage renumeration-free blood donations, specifically. Incentives that involve payment for cash are the opposite of their desired ends, and one has to respect that.
      You already have to pay a fee for these things, for example $20 fee for your driver's license.

      We're not talking about interfering with any basic human needs.

      I'm suggesting simply tack on an additional string --- in addition to paying the $20, so
      getting any kind of license has to be earned by doing some things that are your civic duty.
      One of the civic duties everyone has... is be willing and come if called to serve on a jury, and in some locations voting is mandatory, the punishment for failing on either is not merely revocation of licenses but also jail time and forced community service (temporary enslavement), And another civic duty that should be required: putting yourself on the organ donor's list and
      donating blood tissue at pre-determined intervals can also be added to the required civic duties of citizens.
      Governments use Licenses to convey special privileges, such as the capability to drive a car or work in certain kinds of specialized professions...
      None of the things you need a license for are essential to life.. these are just extra privileges, that while some folks may have taken for granted and abused can certainly have arbitrary conditions attached.

    43. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      Furthermore, this would be in-line with the European Commission's directive 2002/98/EC that wants member states of the EU to encourage renumeration-free blood donations, specifically. Incentives that involve payment for cash are the opposite of their desired ends, and one has to respect that.

      No I don't. I absolutely do not respect it. You're running around with your holier-than-thou bullshit and, at the same time, (as several others have pointed out) you're (Europe) buying your plasma products from the United States because we have more than we need. We have enough to sell because we cash incentivize our "donations".

      Forcing people to be on a donation list? FUCK YOU. Fuck you in your ass for thinking you have the moral right to own someone's body parts.

    44. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by mysidia · · Score: 1

      You're running around with your holier-than-thou bullshit and

      Nope. I've presented a logical more-efficient option than what the US is currently doing. Incentivize donations by attaching some desirable privileges, instead of by burning cash.

      On the other hand... You have failed to present a single reasonable argument.
      Your posts consist primarily of name-calling and Ad Hominem attacks. That is what we call abusive behavior: that is your inability to participate in a civil discussion and reason about things logically, apparently.

      (Europe) buying your plasma products from the United States because we have more than we need.

      Yes, but at what cost? You have private organizations collecting blood donations and charging enormous costs per unit for medical providers to obtain them from patients.

      If you drove donors without paying them, then the system could operate much more efficiently by using cash to offset other expenses --- Including the fact patients don't need to pay hundreds to help incentivize donors, instead of using cash to promote donations.

      thinking you have the moral right to own someone's body parts.

      I am not claiming nor suggesting anybody claim anybody else's body parts.

      I am suggesting people be incentivized to donate willingly, And in order to do that,
      the incentives will be the possibility to access special privileges like the ability to drive.

    45. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      Nope. I've presented a logical more-efficient option than what the US is currently doing. Incentivize donations by attaching some desirable privileges, instead of by burning cash.

      "Burning cash" is WORKING. You're not attaching privileges.. You're offering to strip away liberty. Our current system removes drivers licenses from people who commit crimes or have advanced in age to the point they can't safely drive anymore.. You're talking about removing the right to drive (absent a CRIME) as a carrot to force people to sign over body parts..

      Don't you understand that this is the arrogance that those of us with a more conservative bent HATE? We have a system that works... But you'd rather run around swinging the club of government..

      Have I resorted to personal attacks.. Yeah, I suppose I have, but only because I believe you're an idiot. Only idiots tear down a working system, replace it with an authoritarian setup, and then claim they've made it better.

      The USA has gobs and gobs of plasma.. So much that we export it.. You guys won't/can't incentivize it, and you have a shortage.. Rather than look at the system that works (ours), you'd rather beat fuckers over the head with a license penalty....

      So sick and tired of you mouth breathers....

    46. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by mysidia · · Score: 1

      You're offering to strip away liberty. Our current system removes drivers licenses from people who commit crimes or have advanced in age to the point they can't safely drive anymore

      No... Our current system also denies driver's licenses to MANY other people, showing it is definitely considered a privilege, not a basic liberty, including: Don't have or won't provide a permanent residential street address (people who don't own or rent a house or apartment) -- having PO Box is not sufficient; people who have been in a sufficient number of accidents, or vehicle accident where someone else has died, regardless of not being at fault for causing the accident; people who object (and refuse) to be photographed or to sign their name to a written agreement required to apply --- similar to refusing to have blood drawn, wouldn't you say?

      People who have an unpaid debt to the government that they are trying to collect on --- owed back taxes, or having arrears for alimony or child support, for example, results in denial and can result in revocation of the driver's license; people who fail or don't take some arbitrary written and practical driving skills tests or lack the required number of driver's ed hours; people that have civil infractions, even so minor as jaywalking; people that cannot afford expensive liability insurance; people who have visual impairment. This is not an exhaustive enumeration, and the list of reasons for denial of licenses besides punishment for a crime are quite large.

    47. Re:yay cheaper young blood for me by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      In one of the few moves that I consider to be "intelligent", CA recently removed the "we'll take your license if you owe us money" penalty that was attached to many things.. Someone finally realized that taking away a driver's license from a tax debtor (or someone who owes fines) isn't going to help them earn more money.. it has the opposite effect.

      Nonetheless, you haven't made a single goddamn argument why using the club of big government is better than shelling out money, when we see the money arrangement working. Your political bent is obvious.

  2. Not an effective medical treatment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  3. Peter Thiel, babycock vampire. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sunshine is coming baby.

  4. what next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Government needs to keep their nose out of my business. What next, are they going to tell me I shouldn't eat the hearts of my enemies to gain their powers?

  5. FDA by illiac_1962 · · Score: 0

    Well, if the FDA is this quick to be adamantly against it, then it must be something good and beneficial.

    1. Re:FDA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem to be confusing FDA with SJW.

    2. Re:FDA by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Well, if the FDA is this quick to be adamantly against it, then it must be something good and beneficial.

      Their opposition is actually pretty wishy-washy. They say the benefits "aren't proven", but there haven't been any rigorous clinical trials, so that is at best a neutral statement. Meanwhile, there are several animal trials that showed a clear benefit to the transfusions.

    3. Re:FDA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      " but there haven't been any rigorous clinical trials" You didn't even look at all, stop asserting bullshit moron. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_blood_transfusion

      In experiments like this, researchers found that some of these mice died quickly (11 out of 69 in one experiment) for reasons the scientists could not explain, but described as possibly some form of rejection.[1] Amy Wagers, a researcher who coauthored several mouse studies on young blood transfusion, has said that her papers do not provide a scientific basis for some of the existing human trials.[2]

      Evidence from two large studies in 2017 showed that the transfusion of blood from younger donors to older people led to outcomes that were either no different from, or led to worse outcomes than, blood from older donors.[1][6]

    4. Re:FDA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your ability to actually look up the facts is rare and unique. It gives you many advantages over most of the population.

      It's almost a superpower.

      I have it too. I understand how frustrating it is to watch teeming masses of people spread fake news with such confidence, when they should be smart enough to know better.

      But they're not. They don't want to be.

    5. Re:FDA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't care what they want. I care what they need - the truth boot, up their fucking ass until they learn to appreciate the sensation or avoid it by not lying.

      This goes treble for Propaganda Bill and his lazy illiterate boyfriends Ken Doll and Brett Buttfuck.

    6. Re:FDA by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      Well, if the FDA is this quick to be adamantly against it, then it must be something good and beneficial.

      Spoken like someone with access to the safest drug supply in the history of the world who then wants to shit on it from within. Everything is a conspiracy.. EVERYTHING

    7. Re:FDA by LostMyAccount · · Score: 1

      When my mom was Stage 3-4+ with metatstatic breast cancer, she got a few blood transfusions. It was like the equivalent of a video game med pack. She had so much more energy and vitality, it was like a glimpse of her when she wasn't sick.

      I think the last 2 we even requested within about 4-6 weeks of her death so she could attend a couple of last hurrahs with the extended family and not just be a total zombie.

      I think this might have been whole blood and not just plasma, though.

    8. Re:FDA by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Considering those Wikipedia references are a blog saying parabiotic effects are really interesting, but there's no evidence in humans, maybe in 10 or 20 years, and a review/opinion article with the title "Younger blood from older donors: Admitting ignorance and seeking stronger data and clinical trials" I think your response "stop asserting bullshit moron" might be a little bit too strong?

  6. Risks by markdavis · · Score: 1, Insightful

    >" FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb wrote in a [statement] Tuesday. "

    At this time, that link for the statement is broken.

    Do be warned- there are, indeed, serious risks with infusing foreign blood. All kinds of blood-borne diseases can be transmitted, as well risk of injection site infections. You can also have severe allergic or other auto-immune reactions. At those *crazy* costs ($8k for just a single treatment of 1 liter), one would think you would be blood typed matched carefully to blood products that have been thoroughly tested and screened and all equipment is sterilized properly. But, who knows.

    And there is no proof it does anything at all. Not yet, anyway. And I doubt such profit-motivated "desperation clinics" are performing any controlled studies to help change that.

    1. Re:Risks by sg_oneill · · Score: 1

      Yep. I suffered terrible Anemia a couple of years back due to an undiagnosed internal hemorage from an ulcer. Twice I had been taken in , in a stretcher, and twice I refused blood infusions and went for the iron infusion instead (Which actually work really well).

      In my view the risks just where not worth it. If the Anemia was much worse, I might not have had a choice in it, but at that point I was still within range that an Iron infusion was sufficient.

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    2. Re:Risks by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      there are, indeed, serious risks with infusing foreign blood.

      They aren't infusing blood, just plasma.

      All kinds of blood-borne diseases can be transmitted

      ... from blood. Not from plasma.

    3. Re:Risks by rahvin112 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Plasma is the stuff in blood that's not red blood cells. It's basically everything else other than the oxygen bearing red cells, this includes minerals, salts, proteins, sugars and vitamins along with blood clotting factors anti-bodies and a ton of other stuff. Any blood born pathogens are in the plasma, NOT in the red blood cells themselves (you can count on one hand the number of pathogens that could be inside a red blood cell).

      The plasma is also the area where things like antibodies and immune system components are contained. Usually the centrifuge that removes the red blood cells also takes the white cells out too but the risk of a allergic reaction is still high because of all the other components that are unique to the person that generated the plasma.

      Apparently you are under the misguided impression that the red blood cells are the only thing in blood and that is where pathogens are. This is not the case, red blood cells have pretty much a single purpose and that's to move oxygen. Everything else is moved in the plasma surrounding the blood cells.

    4. Re:Risks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bill you have no idea what you're blathering about.

    5. Re:Risks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do be warned- there are, indeed, serious risks with infusing foreign blood

      For sure, we dun wanna come down with the huawei virus from them chicom blood

      National Security, but you know all that

    6. Re:Risks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Proteins in the plasma may harbor prions that will eventually ruin your nervous system. Basically the same thing that happens to cannibals.

    7. Re:Risks by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Yep, I got a free gift of Epstein-Barr virus and Cytomegalovirus with my blood transfusion(s).

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    8. Re:Risks by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 1

      Frequent transfusions have been proven to give you iron overload at least, and the iron chelation pills are nasty pieces of shit. Wish it made my dad young again, but all they do is keep his anemia under control. Anemia I suspect is related to blood shock he got from a transfusion after surgery.

      People are playing with fire.

    9. Re:Risks by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, the virus. That gift that keeps on giving.

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    10. Re:Risks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      red blood cells have pretty much a single purpose and that's to move oxygen.

      Wrong, red blood cells are mostly there to protect the body from the toxic hemoglobin inside them. The hemoglobin is there to move the oxygen. This is why RBCs live such short lives.

  7. What the hell is going on the world? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One ridiculous medical quack cure after another, this one is from the *middle ages*, for God's sake.

        Eat from the food pyramid, get some exercise, take medicine only when necessary, and you will maximize your chances.

    1. Re:What the hell is going on the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, you'd be better off with one of Paltrows jade eggs.

    2. Re:What the hell is going on the world? by stinerman · · Score: 2

      It's a brave new world, no doubt.

    3. Re: What the hell is going on the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mmmmmm... medicine. Are they saying not recommended or sinply unnecessary?

    4. Re:What the hell is going on the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "food pyramid"

      that was creimer's nickname until someone said pyramids aren't spherical

    5. Re:What the hell is going on the world? by bug_hunter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So the traditional food pyramid is actually a lot more bunk then people realise, but also you can say that without being the worst kind of creature on the internet.

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    6. Re:What the hell is going on the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brett Buttfuck is a known propagandist, I have and show zero respect to him or his kind. If that bothers you I understand. It's still totally 100% deserved and will continue apace. Stop the problem, the medicine stops also.

    7. Re:What the hell is going on the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Umm...this treatment has recently been proven to work. I can't be bothered looking it up but it's not hard to find.

    8. Re:What the hell is going on the world? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      "Eat from the food pyramid," - Ok, so that's an instant fail.

      You do know they nominally fixed the food pyramid before moving on to a circular "plate", yeah? It was no longer based on shotgunning carbohydrates, although it was ludicrously fat-averse.

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    9. Re:What the hell is going on the world? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      One ridiculous medical quack cure after another, this one is from the *middle ages*, for God's sake.

      Except they tried it on lab rodents and it seems to work very well.

      Researchers are now trying to figure out what blood components are involved, to see if the gain can be had with synthetic compounds rather than whole plasma transfusions, and whether any of them will work on humans.

      Eat from the food pyramid, get some exercise, take medicine only when necessary, and you will maximize your chances.

      Wrong. The food pyramid turned out to be the result of a political battle (the guy saying starch good won over the guy saying fat good), with essentially no basis in science, promulgated for decades. Turns out, when its basis was actually questioned, and more research analyzed and/or performed and analyzed, it was shown to be a crock.

      These results, based on actual, substantial, science, are now beginning to percolate into medical advice. I could go into detail but that's a big subject.

      At least it appears to be an accidental crock, rather than a DELIBERATE crock such as the Wilson administration's WW I propaganda trying to downplay the risks of influenza, leading to the massive deaths of "The Great Influenza" pandemic of 1918, along with generations of laxitive addiction (from the propaganda claim that influenza was the result of "auto-intoxication" by intestinal bacteria and you could avoid or mitigate it by being "regular", as in once per day.)

      The great influenza killed a LOT of people - 20-40 million, more than the battle casualties of WW I itself (16 million). But the Food Pyramid has created decades of overweight and heart/circulatory disease and deaths world wide, among people doing their best to be healthy. (In the US alone, heart disease is responsible for about 1/4 of the deaths, about 610,000 per year, and the Food Pyramid is responsible for much of that.) It will be interesting to see, once the numbers are all in, how it compares.

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    10. Re:What the hell is going on the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      creimer took on Bill Maher (HBO) last week and The Verge (Vox Media) this week! who will he take on next week?!

    11. Re:What the hell is going on the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're probably young. There will come a time when your body fails you in some way. You will try and find a cure, but there is none. It's the inevitable decay, but you won't accept that. You won't believe it. There has to be a cure. It's such a minor issue, surely there must be something that can be done. And there will be people who offer "something". It takes a very rational personality to accept decay and not try everything to stave it off, especially if money is not a problem. Those are people who are not used to being told no and they're desperate.

    12. Re:What the hell is going on the world? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      One ridiculous medical quack cure after another, this one is from the *middle ages*, for God's sake.

      No, this one is from Methuselah's Children, by Robert A. Heinlein.

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    13. Re:What the hell is going on the world? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Umm...this treatment has recently been proven to work. I can't be bothered looking it up but it's not hard to find.

      When you make a claim at odds with the main point of the article which is cited and comes from a reputable source the onus is on you to provide a citation. Not doing so make you look like a pointless twat.

      Why did you even post?

    14. Re: What the hell is going on the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Carbohydrates is exactly what you need if you work for a living.

      If you sit on your ass like an accountant then sure you have eat roast chicken every day, and possibly afford it.

    15. Re: What the hell is going on the world? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Carbohydrates is exactly what you need if you work for a living.

      Overly simplistic. You need carbs throughout the day for ready energy, fats for long term energy, and protein in between. Hence the idea of a balanced diet. The old school food pyramid was maybe suitable for farm workers, but most of us aren't one of those.

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    16. Re: What the hell is going on the world? by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 1

      Carbohydrates is exactly what you need if you work for a living.

      If you sit on your ass like an accountant then sure you have eat roast chicken every day, and possibly afford it.

      A balance is what you need, regardless of how you work.
      The Mexicans who pick our produce work harder than almost any of us, and they also have horrible problems with weight and diabetes (higher than the national average) because their diets are chock full of beans, rice, soda, and other things carb-heavy. Carbs are cheap, though, cheaper than quality vegetables.

  8. Literally. Literally. Literally this dumb. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Well, the government tells me not to breathe cinnamon, but fuck that! Just the MAN keeping me down! No way, I'd rather fucking choke myself to death on camera than take sound advice..." - Republicans are literally this dumb.

  9. I couldn't agree more by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    Rob Liefeld's art was terrible. His proportions were madness and he couldn't draw feet to save his life. Why, the thought to using it to treat any medical condition is just absurd.

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    1. Re:I couldn't agree more by jgordon.oakland · · Score: 1

      The link for your firefox plug-in is broken.

  10. Nice Try FDA!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been using this for at least two hundred years to prolong my existence.

  11. The other angle by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I take geezer blood. I can kick kids off my lawn so fast now they're dizzy when they land. And my COBOL coding is faster.

    1. Re:The other angle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But old blood causes erectile dysfunction.

      At least the old blood I share my bed with does.

    2. Re:The other angle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How does it affect your Minesweeper performance?

    3. Re:The other angle by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Then replace her with something young and you'll see the problem disappear.

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    4. Re:The other angle by lazarus · · Score: 1

      Boy, do I have a product for you!

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  12. Probably another Peter Thiel scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wants cheaper blood for himself

  13. It's Safe by locopuyo · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've been doing it for 3000 years. It's perfectly safe.

    1. Re:It's Safe by blindseer · · Score: 1

      What of the donor safety?

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    2. Re:It's Safe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do not survive, so its not a issue.

    3. Re:It's Safe by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      That's why the requisites are young, female and virgin.

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    4. Re:It's Safe by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      Don't worry Keith, you can keep buying your blood from Switzerland. The FDA only has authority in the United States.

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    5. Re:It's Safe by zlives · · Score: 1

      thanks for the endorsement, Mr Cheney

    6. Re:It's Safe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to what I've read of Peter Thiel, "two out of three ain't bad".

  14. fasting by js290 · · Score: 0
    doesn't all the old religions have fasting rituals that may be safer & more effective than young blood?

    Jocko Podcast 45 with Echo Charles - Wooden Leg, Native American Warrior - "make medicine" 4 days solitary, no food nor water http://bit.ly/2UuDfEV

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  15. Hemochromatosis by RyanFenton · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If folks really find this 'treatment' beneficial, find someone with hemochromatosis, and offer them a low payment for regular donation.

    For those that don't know, it's a condition where a persons gut is sort of out-of-control in terms of how much iron it absorbs, leading to a slight excess of iron. This slight extra iron can build up to unsafe levels if not removed for several decades- and the most convenient option for removal is simple: Draining about a blood donation worth of blood twice a week, until the levels are 'normal', then less frequently to maintain.

    The body replaces the blood just fine, and the blood is perfectly find for almost every use, since a slightly elevated iron level is rarely an issue for 99% of cases.

    Unfortunately, lots of blood organizations refuse to draw blood from folks with this condition for free - and want to charge for the regular blood donation as 'treatment' - and will even pour the blood out rather than use it to help anyone, with no clear reason other than unmentioned greed as motivations.

    So, if this 'treatment' becomes fashion, then I hope it leads to a less crazy situation for folks with that condition - though it is still crazy to use blood this way too. Perhaps in this case, two crazy situations make a sane result?

    Ryan Fenton

    1. Re:Hemochromatosis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Regarding the reluctance to make use of blood from hematochromatic individuals, I suspect that it is because of legal liability worries rather than greed. Recipients are charged, after all, for transfusions received, so discarding the blood removes the ability to profit from its sale.

  16. Do the opposite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like Constanza if everything you know is wrong then opposite must be right. And the FDA is always wrong.

  17. Is it just me by sjames · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who thinks this sounds like the sort of comically evil plot Montgomery Burns might try, sending Smithers to tap kids' arms while they sleep?

  18. Re:i wanted to get fatter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No mater how hard you try to be creimer you can never be creimer. Sad. Fucking sad.

  19. Simpsons Did It by Etcetera · · Score: 3, Informative

    Am I the only one who thinks this sounds like the sort of comically evil plot Montgomery Burns might try, sending Smithers to tap kids' arms while they sleep?

    You're probably subconsciously thinking of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Feud_(The_Simpsons)

    Mr. Burns falls ill with hypohemia (a fictional life-threatening condition in which the body starts failing to produce enough blood, though it is akin to a real condition called hypovolemia) and needs a blood transfusion. His blood type, double O negative, is very rare, however, and none of the employees at Springfield Nuclear Power Plant have it. Homer discovers that Bart has double O negative blood and urges his son to donate, promising that he will be handsomely rewarded. Bart reluctantly agrees and his blood donation saves Mr. Burns' life. Mr. Burns is rejuvenated by the blood and he sends the Simpson family a thank you card. Enraged at Mr. Burns' paltry gesture, Homer writes an insulting reply, but Marge convinces him at the last minute not to send it. The next morning, Homer discovers that the letter is gone as Bart has mailed it.

    Bart explains that he knew Homer would probably change his mind, and decided to send the letter before that could happen. Homer desperately tries to prevent the letter from reaching Mr. Burns, but fails. Mr. Burns becomes furious and demands that Homer be punished. However, Smithers calls off the beating on the grounds, meaning that it's no way to thank the man who saved Mr. Burns' life. But soon, Mr. Burns soon realizes the favor Homer did for him was something good, and comes to his senses. He shakes hands with Smithers and tells him not to punish Homer, but to reward the Simpsons instead.

  20. This is just silly by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Plasma infusions don't make you youthful. For that, you have to drink the blood while it's still warm, fresh from the source.

    Doing so might make you very sensitive to sunlight, though.

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    1. Re: This is just silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It makes you a Democrat...

      (not even joking)

      Just because your macabre pseudoscience is debunked again shouldn't legitimize your fear of educated people, Republicans. Nobody is forcing you to vote for Trump, you put the gun in your own mouth as needed.

    2. Re: This is just silly by chthon · · Score: 1

      Correction: it makes you a politician.

    3. Re: This is just silly by serviscope_minor · · Score: 0

      Correction: it makes you a politician.

      If you don't like politics you can always go and work in Disney's legal department.

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    4. Re:This is just silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With the invention of microwave and refrigerators, we can always keep it fresh and warm.

    5. Re: This is just silly by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      You can tell by where the word comes from, politics, as in poly, greek for many and tics, as in little bloodsucking critters.

      (yes. It is a joke. A bad one. I know. Don't make me whoosh you!)

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    6. Re:This is just silly by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but reheated blood is kinda yucky. And it gets that skin like cheap soup.

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    7. Re: This is just silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Peter Thiel is a Democrat?

    8. Re: This is just silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One more outburst like that and he'll bankrupt you!

  21. Thomas of Monmouth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rabbis abducted, tortured tge abductees to fil the youthful blood with adrenaline, bled the children dry and sold as a spring tonicvlike 4hr Energy Shot.

  22. Not really surprising by Solandri · · Score: 2

    Medical quack cures during the middle ages spread via word of mouth among the clueless masses.

    Modern social media is a way for the clueless masses to quickly spread (mis)information via word of mouth.

    During the interim period, we had broadcasting - a few people communicating to many, via books, newspapers, radio, and finally TV. These forms of communication cost money, so they were only available to people or organizations willing and able to pay for it. That meant what they were saying usually had to first go through some sort of vetting process, to make sure it wasn't wasting their time and money.

    Then the Internet happened. It's given us lots of great things, but it's also led to a regression of information dissemination. Social media costs nothing to use, meaning that the rumors and hearsay spreading among the masses are once again able to drown out the volume of information from authoritative sources.

    People keep championing censorship as the solution (companies and organizations doing "fact-checking" and deliberately squelching info they deem to be incorrect). While that can work, it's incredibly risky. All a wannabe-dictator has to do is replace the fact checkers with people sympathetic to his cause, and the whole thing gets re-purposed into a system to control and subjugate the masses. The proper solution is to educate people, so they're better able to decide for themselves what's true and what's quackery. Unfortunately that's a lot harder than censorship, so lots of people who really should know better are advocating trading off some of their freedom for better security against quacks.

  23. Meanwhile Democrats drink baby blood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Meanwhile the high ranked Democrats "drink" all that kidnapped children's blood in satanic rituals.
    Why?

    1. Re: Meanwhile Democrats drink baby blood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Democrat here. There is no Satan. We're not performing any sort of ritualistic murder. It is simple logc, baby blood tastes the best. And the younger your victim the smaller their carbon footprint.

    2. Re:Meanwhile Democrats drink baby blood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't afford it without Soros money. Obviously it works for him.

    3. Re: Meanwhile Democrats drink baby blood by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 1

      It sounds like a reasonably Modest Proposal to solve the overpopulation problem as well.

  24. Re: food pyramid was wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The food pyramid we all learned in the 80s is totally wrong because it puts too much emphasis on grains / carbs.

  25. Re: people who still sign their posts in 2019 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ryan Fenton

    You'd think someone with the same name as the guy in the goatse photo would want to use a different pseudonym on the internet.

  26. stick to leeches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let them suck the age right out of you.

    I swear we're on the start of a great decline. It's like the fall of Rome.

    R.I.P. Western Civilization. It was fun while it lasted. And thanks for all the fish!

  27. You're still ok with daughter fucking, Trumptards? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Ivanka.. so hot. Yeah, I'd date her. Why not?" - Literally verbatim on video. Nothing weird about that at all? A gender-neutral version of himself, and he wants to fuck it... and it came out of his body, and he still wants to fuck it.

    You conservative christian no-abortion type dudes are cool with pussy grabbing and divorcing the mother of your kids because she got old or cancer, or both in the case of Gingrich, wow that fuck..., but DAUGHTER FUCKING?

    It's a new level of stupid nazi pedo treason, and you're in the parade wearing an oversized diaper, GOP children. Run for your motherfeckless lives, the Hindenberder is going bing bong, gyna's. No parole, full anal collusion.

    Trump Junior's screams will be harvested for campaign advertising purposes. Don't be a traitor - or this happens.

  28. This is primitive medieval thinking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eat the heart of your enemy to gain their strength type belief

    It primitive bullshit

    grow up people its the 21st century not the 14th!

    1. Re:This is primitive medieval thinking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      grow up people its the 21st century not the 14th!

      It seems you don't understand people too well. People love little secrets and people love to believe in magic; so start rumors, conspiracies and superstitions and watch how they take off. Whereas the stuff that is taught in school ends up rejected because it comes from teachers which by the child were viewed as figures of authority. Take for example this "flat Earth" nonsense. Initially starting as an internet joke, there are people who now actually believe that the Earth is flat. There are people who believe that the moon landings were staged and all space exploration is CGI. Believing in supernatural powers from ingesting viscera is not that different.

      And unfortunately stupid people outnumber intelligent people.

    2. Re:This is primitive medieval thinking by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      The fun bit is where they reject science because it supposedly tries to force them how and what to think instead of allowing freedom to think for themselves, then they turn around and parrot the same bullshit (usually even verbatim) they hear somewhere else.

      I'm dead serious, if I had a buck for every flattard talking about how "water always finds its level", usually EXACTLY with these words, I could buy Apple.

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  29. Re:Literally. Literally. Literally this dumb. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet the bulk of the bubble heads on Youtube that made videos of self inflicted cinnamon injuries wouldn't hesitate to parrot any given tenant of your libtard group think on command.

  30. Re:You're still ok with daughter fucking, Trumptar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    You have some serious issues. The more you scream "Pedo" the more you admit your guilt. Me thinks he doth protest too much.

    You are one sick fucker.. Always with the pedophilia, ass rape, butt fucking... I guess we can assume you will finally be arrested for anally raping some 10 year old.

  31. Re:Literally. Literally. Literally this dumb. by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

    "Well, the government tells me not to breathe cinnamon, but fuck that! Just the MAN keeping me down! No way, I'd rather fucking choke myself to death on camera than take sound advice..." - Republicans are literally this dumb.

    Democrats are dumb enough to bring up the regulation of inhaling anything when it was Republicans who insisted on locking up hippies for decades for simply inhaling a plant that they said you shouldn't inhale..

    Here we are 20 years later and your dumb ass is actually promoting the government banning you from inhaling something. I know it's just a silly example, but you really need to think shit through... Maybe not everything the government declares to be dangerous really is.... Hrm?

  32. Opportunity costs, regulation and beta blockers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The FDA prevented the use of beta blockers for ten years after their use in the EU.

    About a hundred thousand people died prematurely, as a result.

    Given the political environment, and their mission, they have to err strongly on the side of cautioun, or they get the blame. They are behaving rationally.

    The opportunity cost, all those who die or suffer as a result, is invisible.

    How many people will die of old age before research into preventing aging becomes legal?

    Right now all medical research is banned, unless it is to prevent or cure a disease, and aging doesn't count.

    1. Re:Opportunity costs, regulation and beta blockers by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      How many people will die of old age before research into preventing aging becomes legal?

      Oh vanity of vanities - you want to live forever and you want to have children too. What could possibly go wrong? You should be content that you can now live almost twice as long as most people did in the middle ages.

      Right now all medical research is banned, unless it is to prevent or cure a disease, and aging doesn't count.

      This is simply not true. Life extension research exists and is carried out by Harvard and UCLA to name a few.

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    2. Re:Opportunity costs, regulation and beta blockers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > you want to live forever and you want to have children too.

      No.

      You must ask people what they think, not assume it and then write an answer to that assumption.

      > This is simply not true. Life extension research exists and is carried out by Harvard and UCLA to name a few.

      Humans can go wrong in a lot of ways, and so the research being done is all justified by the fact it could potentially be used to treat some known, existing ailment.

  33. Re:DON'T LIKE SOCIETY? THEN FUCKING LEAVE DIPSHIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then leave society, go find a place where no government needs to operate, you whiny unrealistic idiot. You reap benefits currently. Don't like it? GET THE FUCK OUT LIBERTARIAN RETARDS, NOBODY NEEDS YOU HERE.

    Sounds like someone wants their heart eaten.

  34. Re:Literally. Literally. Literally this dumb. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the meantime Democrats are eating Tide Pods.

  35. GDF11 Works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been taking GDF11 subcutaneous injections nightly since May 2017 and I can tell you it works, I'm 43 and all my age related symptoms have disappeared. I have been happy ever since starting and feel like I'm on my second life now.

    I could provide a big list of the benefits I have experienced but you can get this from Googling - "Patient Zero GDF11".

    It took me months to work out the correct dosage as too little and no effect and too much and it cross binds to the Myostatin receptors and opposite effect is seen, its in the nanograms per night range, not Milligrams or Picograms - little hint there :P

    Cheers..... (and yes Highlander is one of my favourite films)

  36. You forgot to add WindBourne to the list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WindBourne King of Lies.

  37. uuu! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    uuuuu, anti-Semitism!

  38. Re:Literally. Literally. Literally this dumb. by tsa · · Score: 1

    I think the government should supply free cocaine to the masses.

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  39. Re:i wanted to get fatter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you're right it would be very hard to eat myself to 400+ pounds

  40. Slashvertisement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this a stealthy Slashvertisement?

  41. stem cells by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The blood of the young has more stem cells in it, that's what makes its healing property old organisms lack.

    People die of old age due to organs failure as consequence of specific important tissues in those organs falling in disrepair.

    However, while blood donation is a matter of sorting small number of compatibilities, because what you need it for is time-limited oxygen and carbon-dioxide carrying ability of erythrocytes, and you don't care that those erythrocytes will be soon killed off by acceptors immune system, stem cells need much better matching, on an organ transplant level, or better.

    Therefore, while there is some theoretical foundation to the hypothesis, it doesn't work in practice.

    However, long term auto-transfusion could work, if we could keep our own stem-cells viable across many decades.

  42. The 19th century just called! by Ihlosi · · Score: 1

    Someone wanted their snake oil and patent medicines back.

  43. Nobody cares how wrong it is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *Our Stolen History*

    In geological time Gaia is entering menopause. It spins slower, It's getting wider around the middle, tilting and wobbling a bit, rebounding up at the poles, low on magnetic charm, drying up in the mainlands, being gouged on the coasts, and popping out in volcanoes while having severe hot flashes. Imagine a falling droplet of water pulsating and you'll get the picture. Having slept with a menopausal woman, I can tell you our rest is in trouble.

    I remember when laptops didn't bend. We have a fridge made in 1946, it still works. Maybe always has.

    The billionaires stole the missing pentagon trillions for several post-collapse billionaire bunkers underground worldwide.

    You will never see the 1%'s bunkers on a video screen, but not even the pentagon can spend that much on child porn.

    Banks stole public credit 100 years ago to fight a war on the unwhite.

    After the civil war, the railroad barons got rich shipping oil.

    The banks got rich rich off railroads and oil.

    The banks formed a cartel in 1913 and privatized public credit.

    The banks funded WW1 and got rich investing in transport and arms.

    The banks crashed 1929.

    The banks funded WW2 to beat communism and depression.

    Propaganda is 100 years old. So is feminism and socialism.

    It takes 50 years to complete energy and social systems worldwide without incentive.

    Everybody is unequal due to race sex nature and nurture, that is why we must tax the rich to help the poor.

    The top 20% produce 70% of emissions.

    We have 10 years to reduce emissions 50% or earth dies.

    100 year old fantasies will not do this.

    Banks are real, 100 year old fantasies are not.

    Video phones won't be around forever. We have to prepare.

    Unhiding money is a social multiplier of goals. Make money private and public with nowhere to hide.

    We can rule ourselves with private money and public regulation. It values policy over greed.

    The only way to survive is to tax the rich and start a universal 100% private basic carbon income with 0% for corporations, NGOs and governments phased in over 10 years worldwide.

    The current public/private banking partnership is inimical to life on earth,

    This partnership is based on killing the unwhite for oil.

    Oddly enough, I only have to take on corporations, NGOs and governments to do it.

    It's easier than you think. We don't need them to do it.

    The rest is history.

  44. Re: You're still ok with daughter fucking, Trumpta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds to me like he's praising his genetics. I doubt anyone brags about how ugly their children are.

    However, kudos on the mental gymnastics, are you trying out for the "Extra Special Olympics" this year?

  45. Do anti-vaxer's do infusions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just wondering.

  46. Holy Shades of Elizabeth Bathory, Batman! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thad_the man

    ( One day I'll get my account all sorted. )

  47. Some points by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Plasma is actually not in short supply but the medicine made from it is. It takes 100-1000 people donating plasma to make one dose of IVIG. Intravaneous-immune globulin

    It is for very rich people or very very sick individuals with children's Medicaid or severe disability. Most people dont even know it exists because of prohibitive cost and difficulty qualifying otherwise.

    It demolinates your cells. Molecular-level type shit. It's the closest thing to a real fountain of youth we will ever have.

  48. Re:Literally. Literally. Literally this dumb. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Yeah, that's what America needs. More self-righteous, overconfident narcissists.

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  49. I don't know . . . by bigdavex · · Score: 2

    It definitely worked for the Skeksis.

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  50. Fuck FDA ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... either ban the practice or shut the fuck up.

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  51. Whatever the FDA says - do the opposite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FDA says GMOs are fine, do the opposite, eat organic
    FDA says flouride is fine in the water source , do the opposite and not get cancer, drink RO water

    And finally..

    When the FDA says don't use young people's healthy blood as a medical treatment, do the opposite, and take the treatment to remain vigorous.

    The FDA has absolutely no interest whatsoever in maintaining current population levels. They are in bed with the Rockefeller controlled and owned CDC (do your homework)

  52. Liar! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you were using random blood products for the past 200 years, you never would have survived the AIDS epidemic. You would have been among the first infected in the 1960s or 1970s, and died a horrible death years before effective treatments were even on the horizon. You might have even died before anyone had any idea what it was that actually killed you.

    If somehow you got lucky with HIV, there's the matter of leukemia... something even kids are known to get, and can absolutely spread via blood transfusions. Or other metastatized random childhood cancers. They're rare, but they exist.

    And if you went anywhere near the UK in the 1980s or early 1990s & used the blood of anyone who wasn't a militant vegan, you would have probably ended up having your brain literally self-destruct into spongy ooze. Even NOW, anyone who spent more than 3 months in the UK between 1980 and 1996 is banned from donating blood in the US (admittedly, it's kind of silly at this point since anyone who WOULD have gotten BSE has already developed it and probably died, but given the relatively few actual potential donors who get turned away by the policy in the US, nobody really wants to be the one who pushes for a policy change & ends up being proven horribly wrong).

    In fact, AFAIK, even in the UK, blood supplies are segregated... blood donated by people born after 1996 is kept separate from blood from older donors, and blood from older donors can be given to a patient born after 1996 ONLY in a dire emergency (and usually, with the employee who allowed it to happen getting sacked unless it was truly an unforeseen, catastrophic emergency).

    The point is, you really DON'T want to have blood from random strangers coursing through your veins if you can help it. Obviously, sometimes you just need it in order to survive... but if you roll the dice enough times, you're eventually going to lose.

  53. Get your Vampire on by OppMan29 · · Score: 1

    i hope this people arent force now to get plasma the old dracula way

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