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Mitch McConnell: Democrats' Net Neutrality Bill is 'Dead on Arrival' in Senate (cnet.com)
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told reporters on Tuesday that the net neutrality bill Democrats are pushing through the House is "dead on arrival" in the Senate. From a report: The U.S. House of Representatives is expected to vote later today on the Save the Internet Act, which is the Democrats' proposal to restore Obama-era net neutrality protections that were repealed in 2017. It's expected to pass the Democrat-controlled House. McConnell was asked by reporters about whether the Senate would consider the bill once it passes. He indicated it would not, according to several tweets from reporters. McConnell's office confirmed the comment.
The Save the Internet Act restores rules adopted by the Federal Communications Commission in 2015. These rules would ban internet service providers from blocking or throttling access to the internet. And they would prevent ISPs from charging companies extra to deliver their online faster to consumers. The Democrats' bill restores these rules and also restores the FCC's authority to regulate and oversee broadband networks.
The Save the Internet Act restores rules adopted by the Federal Communications Commission in 2015. These rules would ban internet service providers from blocking or throttling access to the internet. And they would prevent ISPs from charging companies extra to deliver their online faster to consumers. The Democrats' bill restores these rules and also restores the FCC's authority to regulate and oversee broadband networks.
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Get it right, already.
That depends on the length of the rope.
Mitch McConnell: Democrats' Net Neutrality Bill is 'Dead on Arrival' in Senate
This is what the Democrats need to do, go down the list of popular bills congress should pass, send them to the senate so the electorate can watch them go down in flames thanks to Mitch McConnell. Lather, rinse repeat until the 2020 election and shine the spotlight on Mitch McConnell every time he shoots one of these popular bills down. Make him the poster boy for the demise of every reform, every popular bill imaginable. It's the best way to make his 'no to everything, it's my way or the highway' policy work against him. There are tons of people on both the right and left wing who want to seen net-neutrality anchored in law and for either Rep. or Dem. politicians to be against net neutrality is not likely to be a vote winner on either side.
Everything you just said is false. Even the things you implied are false.
Do you really trust they will do something LESS stupid than the old rules?
The FCC had no choice about the old rules either. They tried that, the courts shut them down and said they needed Title II if they wanted to do that.
"Nah. My Republican Senator is just fine and isn't the problem. Your Republican Senator needs to go, though.
People who don't care aren't against it. So that doesn't matter so much.
If they send enough bills, then the GOP will accuse the Democrats of wasting Congress's time by bullying the Senate and refusing to produce workable legislation, while propping up McConnell as a stalwart defender strong enough to resist the onslaught. Whether the bills are popular or not doesn't really matter... the bigger the number, the more it can be spun to look like political pressure.
That's really not a concern any more. No one is buying the Republicans' spin any more -- their support of Trump's extremism and criminality has inured all but their own most stalwart supporters against their spin and misrepresentation of facts, for which they've become very widely known to everyone except themselves.
His attempt to spin the Green New Deal by bringing it to a vote before the bill had had any markup, modifications, or input failed exactly for those reasons. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez showed us exactly how to counter such spin very effectively.
I say bring it on, and stop being afraid (which it appears is what Democrats, at long, long last, are finally doing).
It puts them on a level playing field. Not having an advantage is simply fair. Google did not have an advantage when they started. They were just good.
I present for you the single largest obstacle to Democracy: Mitch McConnell!
This is an issue that a large majority of Americans want, and ol' Turtle-Neck can single-handedly block it, with no recourse. Not even Trump can do that, even with a veto, as Congress has the ability to override if desired.
No one man should have that power.
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but is this gonna change how anyone votes?
If not then McConnell has the right idea. This is a high value issue for his donors and a low value issue for his voters. He'll collect his paycheck from AT&T, Cox, etc and ignore the will of the people because it's not strong enough to change what happens at the ballot box.
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Riiiight. I think you forgot about the Mexicans from Venezuela that are caravanning to the border. That or whatever the scare tactic of the week is. I'm pretty sure they are all safe.
That depends on the length of the rope.
It's more where the rope is attached.... But I get your meaning..
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" Whether the bills are popular or not doesn't really matter..."
If the bills are popular (which I take to mean a significant majority of Americans support it across party lines), why would there then be enough support for McConnell "as a stalwart defender strong enough to resist the onslaught" to matter? Sure, people don't always act or vote logically but that's pretty far out there on the lack of logic scale.
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Not really... ISP's are mostly cable companies. If they wanted to go to war with fox, they'd already be in position to do whatever they feel like there.
According to the current top story on Fox news, it's immigrants flooding across the border from "50 different countries, including China, Bangladesh, Turkey, Egypt and Romania."
Yes, please tell us exactly what was in the Mueller Report and what it means. I'm sure you're one of the select inner circle who has actually read the report, and not just heard reports about Barr's obviously biased "summary".
If the report actually exonerated Trump and Co., it would be made public. The fact that it has not says volumes.
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Get it right, already.
Mitch McConnell could be fired.
But that would require the Republican base to vote for a *gasp* Democrat!
That won't happen.
Identity politics: lifelong Reps just vote Reps.
Believing lies: Democrats are socialists - it doesn't help that most Americans don't even know what socialist is: Sanders calling himself a Democratic Socialist to people who think a failed petro-state led by populist leaders with populist policies (like Trump) is socialist (Venezuela).
And then there are the abortion fanatics that fall for the lies that are told to them about Democrats being "baby killers" - people who are easily swayed by shallow jingoistic rhetoric that has no basis in fact.
And the gun nuts who believe that the "Democrats are going to take their guns."
Mitch McConnell is a symptom of our broken electorate. An electorate that is under the control of corporate propaganda that terrorizes its listeners so that they agree to horrible policies that hurts them in the end.
I just love the fact that many people who voted for Trump are getting it up the ass because of his tariff wars. They asked for it.
It's funny that the people who bitch the most about government keep electing the same assholes, like McConnell, into office.
The ISPs shouldn't be competing with Google, Twitter, or Facebook. The ISPs should compete with other ISPs, to provide improving service in the market of connecting customers to the Internet.
Google and Facebook have become the gatekeepers to an awful lot of the Web, like it or not. The ISP, by physical necessity, is already the gatekeeper to the Internet itself. Having the same entity controlling both is where I start to get very worried.
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
That would be because Mitch isn't working for the common good, he's working for the corporate good.
This. So much this.
This is the problem with Congress in general, not just GOP Senators. So that even with a 95% (or whatever) disapproval rating for Congress, everyone gets reelecte.
"My congresscritter is cool. It's all them other assholes that are the problem".
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Yes, please tell us exactly what was in the Mueller Report and what it means. I'm sure you're one of the select inner circle who has actually read the report, and not just heard reports about Barr's obviously biased "summary".
Looks like you are also in the inner circle since you know the summary is "obviously biased" compared to the original report.
If the Senate doesn't pass it, say goodbye to all the Republican Senators during the next election. Choice is theirs. Do as the Public wants ...(snip) .
Hold up there AC. I'm not so sure this is what the public wants... But let's discuss Republican Senator elections in 2020..
First up, There are 34 seats up for grabs in 2020, 22 Republican and 14 Democrats. There are 5 seats seen as toss ups, all Democrats and an additional 6 seats which lean one way or the other, 3 for each party based on past election results. Of course, the election is a LONG way away and we don't have any idea how this is going to play out nationally and each state.
IMHO Net Neutrality is going to be a very small portion of the picture this time around, if it even plays a role. As I see this, things like health care, immigration, the economy and foreign policy are going form the election landscape. And don't forget, an incumbent Trump vrs whomever will suck up the bulk of the oxygen and national news coverage, making Senate elections mostly secondary and regulated to local news coverage. The "coat tails" will impact the election more than this issue will, by far.
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When you control the whole ecosystem and can sick the payment processors/ banks onto your enemies that isn't a level playing field.
Should ? OK that implies a moral imperative for it to happen, I would be very much more concerned with the can and how ? There really is no way for anyone without the size and reach of the media giants to compete with them, all three of those companies have ridiculous capitalizations, they are very careful about not actually competing with each other, hardly a situation that fosters competition.
It will be made public AFTER parts of it are redacted. That's the law, whether you like it or not. Details of grand jury procedures cannot be made public no matter how much you want them to be.
The Senate and the House may get to see the full unredacted report, but there's no law saying that they be granted that access. One reason is that some Congressmen just can't keep from blabbing stuff to the press that should never be made public.
Which part of the law requires the unredacted report to be sent to congress?
Outside of the summation Barr already sent I don't believe the special council guidelines actually require any part of the report actually be released to congress. Congress is free to ask to see it but I don't believe there is any legal requirement for the Executive branch to share their report and don't forget Mueller's office is wholly contained within the Executive branch of the federal government. Congress already had their investigations which all came up to the same conclusion; no collusion.
In fact several laws already dictate that the unredacted report CANNOT be released to Congress. Grand Jury testimony and elements pertaining to classified materials have to be redacted though certain congress people on specific committees can potentially get authorization to see the classified bits.
Information relating to other ongoing investigations or information relating to unindicted third parties is being redacted on a selected basis by both Mueller and Barr, which is pretty standard procedure. This may also be potentially revealed to select congress people at a later date.
That all being said, Barr has already stated that after he and Mueller are done redacting the above sensitive materials the report will be released to Congress; probably within the next week.
Of course that's just my opinion...... you could be wrong!
Not to get into the whole abortion debate but that 70% stat is complete and utter garbage, at least how most people use it. Most Americans do in fact believe that abortion should be widely available but there is a dramatic shift when the question "at which stage of pregnancy should it be legal" is asked.
Only about 30% want no limits on abortion (and that number is sometimes a little lower depending on exact wording) compared to about 20% who want it outright banned. The remaining 50% fall somewhere in the middle ranging from only permitted in extreme cases like if there is a threat to the life of the mother or rape to banned after a certain date. This falls right in line with the fact that the number of people reporting to be pro-life and pro-choice are exactly equal at 48% (and yes, you can be pro-life but want to allow for abortions in certain circumstances). These number have been repeated in pretty much every poll done on the issue over the last few years so you can pick your favorite polling service to check them.
So in the case of abortion only 1 party is following the hardliners in determining their policy and it's not the Republicans. Democrats have made it their policy to ban any restrictions, up until birth, aligning themselves with the 30%. While some Republicans have aligned themselves with the hardline 20% who want an outright ban most just want some restrictions which is more inline with the 50% who don't go to either extreme. On the Federal level the Dems are still holding strong on the 'no limits on abortion' policy while the Republicans are generally pushing to make it a States rights issue.
You can debate where exactly the line should be drawn, but unlike your claim, actually 70% of Americans are willing to draw that line somewhere as opposed to Democrats who want no line at all.
Secondly, the Senate doesn't care about gerrymandered districts as they are state-wide elections.
Of course that's just my opinion...... you could be wrong!
When anti-trust was enforced the way it's supposed to be? When it was actually about consumers?
Now we have a bunch of rich old fucks who care more about money than the people. A government full of people profiting off their own decisions. A government that mis-represents it's citizens and calls itself the best country in the world.
Most of the world knows the citizens don't want this. An overwhemling majority don't want it.
But...here we are...the majority is representing the minority opinion simply because they're greedy.
Trump drained the swamp...and replaced it with a cesspool. Actually..that's insulting to cesspools.
I believe he just tried to point out that the stock market doing well is not indicative of the economy doing well.
That's your opinion. The market will always favor whatever people want to buy. If you don't want to buy x because of reasons, someone will fill that niche. If environmental impact becomes a problem, markets will change accordingly but the market thus far has produced things that benefit the environment compared to eg the 50s simply due to economics.
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they haven't passed one piece of workable legislation since the ACA. I mean, I wouldn't call that mess of a tax bill that _raised_ my taxes $50 bucks and resulted in more offshoring and job cuts (look it up, good 'ole unintended consequences) "workable".
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the real problem is we accepted oligarchy in exchange for some minor bigotry and a general fear of change. The bigots are actually a minor problem. Sure, getting rid of their bigotry would fix things (since they tip the scales) but the real problem is folks who see things like minimum wage hike not as paying a living wage but as too risky since it might raise the price of a pizza 75 cents... Nevermind that it's just restaurants that saw a hike or that the hikes are small enough that it's just as likely to be inflation...
Point is, too many Americans living paycheck to paycheck and in a constant state of fear of change means it's damn near impossible to get them to want to fix anything. Which is working exactly as intended...
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If some of the Nordic countries are so awesome, why are you still here? Surely your well developed technology skills could find you work there. Have you started the visa process?
Don't most of the population make within like 20% of each others income? And the healthcare is likely good. Sounds nice.
Or Canada. Just move to Canada if you truly feel American is just so terrible.
You could even sponsor your family members to come join you in your new awesome country. Let's get started! No time to waste!
If there were anything incriminating in it, it would have leaked immediately.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Being anti-choice pro-forced-female-slavery isn't the same as being pro-life. Pro-life means you actually care about the living, something these people don't seem to do after the fetus is born.
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Hope that helps. There are places that do polls so you don't have to, and what they show is a persistent, long term, high majority desire for net neutrality.
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My point was that Net Neutrality wasn't important enough to voters to impact the election.
Most people I know, left and right, simply don't care about this issue, even if they have an opinion. It's not important. Further, I don't see Net Neutrality in any pollster's top 10 list of issues people care about. So it doesn't matter how many people say they want or don't want it. Face it, politically Net Neutrality is a dead horse, and if your party is beating it in hopes of garnering votes it only really means they are desperate to drive the daily narrative away from what is seen as more important.
Don't fool yourself. This whole thing is a desperate political move for "show" and not "go". Much like the House Republicans voting repeatedly to repeal Obamacare when the Senate was in Democrat hands and Obama was in office, then failing to ACTUALLY do it when they had the chance. This was nothing more than a show vote, a little bit of political theater... Only in this case, the "show" is playing to a very small audience, who's votes are likely already committed to vote for the players on the stage... Which, if you look at this and think about why the players are on the stage, says something important about what they think is likely to happen in the next election cycle.
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It's like people can't read isn't it? The Meuller report does not exonerate President Trump. It actually specifically says that in it.
“While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,”
Someone will of course pop up and say that part isn't about Russian interference but the Meuller Report covered a lot of things.I would be very interested in seeing how close the President came to the line of the law and what side of morality he ends up on.
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We don't have to pretend. Any normal person that isn't constantly shilling for one side or the other can see that they are two peas in a pod.
Successful socialist nations: 90% white. They need to be dismantled NOW! That's racist! How has twitter let this go on so long?!?!
If the report actually exonerated Trump and Co., it would be made public. The fact that it has not says volumes.
If the report actually implicated Trump and Co., it would be made public. The fact that it has not says volumes. ... just sayin'
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Only if the people with the power and access to do so, also have the motive. For now, it seems the report is a closely guarded secret of individuals loyal to the Trump administration.
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...and your government is putting the best part of a trillion dollars on the credit card every year. You're paying nearly $400 billion in interest which is expected to double over the next decade. When (and how) does that start to be paid down? The current projection doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room if you have to deal with another economic shock. I wouldn't be to chirpy about the economy just now.
Too bad that Trump's voter base just does not hear the incessant "fuck you, plebes" messages from the Republican party and their president.
It's funny you say that when the economy is booming and the populace is receiving exactly the opposite message from Trump.. which is why his approval numbers have been climbing.
From almost all the polls I have seen Trump's approval rating has been rather steady at ~44%. The only poll I can find where Trump has a positive approval rating is the Rasmussen poll. That is despite the strong US economy.
I like how you wrote out a small essay critiquing the 70% support abortion statistic as being too simplistic and then make a statement like ..."as opposed to Democrats who want no line at all.". Most Democrats opinions are far more nuanced than that, just like everyone else.
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Your contesting something that's not even being alleged.
No where do I state that they are exerting executive privilege to not release the report, I'm merely stating that as an executive branch document they are under no obligation to just freely release it to Congress. I've already stated that there are ways for members of Congress to see all the data, a subpoena being the most powerful tool in their bag, but that doesn't change the fact that voluntarily releasing the report to Congress or the public at this point is entirely up to AG Barr and not a legal requirement as the GGP stated.
Of course that's just my opinion...... you could be wrong!
To clarify, when talking about Democrats I'm particularly speaking of the legislators not individual voters.
As the breakdown shows the electorate, either Dems, Repubs or Indy mostly fall into the middle but you'd be hard pressed to find a handful of actual Dem legislators, especially on the Federal level, that would take the stand that there needs to be some restrictions on abortion. In the current climate where the vocal minority dictates policy that would be political suicide for them.
Of course that's just my opinion...... you could be wrong!