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theGEEK writes "A friend came across this article on Suck yesterday. I actually know this guy... and his Anti-Bear Suit is actually quite impressive. Troy is a very interesting, if somewhat dramatic guy-so much so the National Film Board of Canada made a movie about him, and his project.
You'll never believe your eyes when you see him repeatedly get hit by a truck at at 50 KPH or when he gets beaten by bikers wielding axes and baseball bats." So, if anyone wants to get me a Christmas present, I'll take one of these.
It it something I'm missing - why does this site have such freaking TERRIBLE presentation? Yeah, like I want to read double-lined spaced columns that are 3 words wide.
This is his life... aside from being a scrap metal reclaimer... and he takes it very seriously. He definitely lives every day to its fullest...
It needs some sort of motor assist for the joints and a tad more stability before it's combat-useful, I think.
Nobody's said this'll stop bullets and shrapnel
Actually, yeah he did.
I think they might want to get their water supply checked for lead content.
More ominously, one of the prospective applications listed is `riot control'...
It seems that the only thing lacking would be a self contained breathing mechanism. I could see one easily drowning in this. It would be neat to walk along the floor of a lake or something in this.
If you don't get it... Remember the "life assist" commercial or whatever it was and the old lady who fell down one stair, didn't hurt herself, and faked saying the subject... ;-)
>PS. Can someone answer definitively the question "Is noon 12 pm or 12 am?"?
Gah, thats easy.
My local time is now after 12. I have chust finnished mine mid day bannaner. Look at them PMs, what is likely words they stand for? Postprandial Monkey. CHeck.
Upon a midnight clear I am hacking away at windoze entrails to re-ennervate ZuperKewl DonkyKung 4D where a BSOD has lost my high score of all time. Angry Monkey am I! Angry!! Thats the AMs.
See, use them Moneky Memonics, you'll never forget again!
what the hell does this have to do with anything?
I agree. This guy is weird but wonderful. I wish him well.
/. posters spend half their time moaning about how society misunderstands them and labels them as freaks -- and the other half of their time labeling other people as freaks.
Funny how
We should be celebrating this guy, not dissing him.
oh man. thank you to the above poster for the comments regarding mod music. I used to listen to them all the time. even on tape away from the computer. can't resist those 8 bit sounds.
You'll get a kick out my coverage of Troy and the Igs. Every time I speak to Marc he gushes that I captured the spirit of the Igs better than anyone else.
Troy
Igs
Judge for yourself.
It rules. I want one. Anybody know if the military is looking at these for foot soldiers (a la "starship troopers", the book not the movie). Couple hundread of marines pouring up onto shore with custom decorated (death-heads and all) suits like this would scare the bejesus out of the opposition.
The G Man suit itself might not be a stunning success, but I fugure it will lead to some very pratical applications in fire fighting, search and rescue, military, space, underwater, and who knows where else. Someone's got to develop this stuff eventually and the best ideas usually come from some eccentric out in left field rather than a government funded think tank.
I hope this guy is not deterred by the snickering masses who don't have the balls to persue their own ideas with such enthusiasm.
DrunkBikerWeb: Maximum number of concurrent biker-beatings server is able to sustain while still serving web pages.
SleepyTruckerWeb: Maximum number of hits from a three-tonne truck travelling at 50 kilometres an hour while still serving web pages.
FallingTreeWeb: Maximum number of collisions with a 136 kilgram (300 lb.) tree from a height of 9 metres (30 ft.) while still serving web pages.
The CBC made a video about him and it's funny in a very accidental way. It's bizarre and I must say, Monsieur Troy is a bit... what's the word... insane, but it's worth the four bucks to watch it.
He doesn't ever get attacked by a bear (sorry to ruin the surprise) but the rest of it makes it worth it.
Looks like it is ready to take on you choice of Monster (Godzilla, Mothra) or Giant Robot :)
It may be expensive....but it has one thing going for it: Those movies of this guy getting attacked, beaten, run over, mauled, and living to tell about it are easily the funniest movies I've EVER seen. :)
Werd.
They'll tranq the bear long before that happens. He's planning to get the bear out of the den, not go in after it. Then he just has to let the bear use him as a chew-toy for 3-5 minutes until the tranquilizer takes effect.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds. - Captain Hammer
No, based on the 3rd Ed FAQ:
AC 10 in 3rd Ed = AC 10 in 2nd Ed.
AC 20 in 3rd Ed = AC 0 in 2nd Ed.
AC 30 in 3rd Ed = AC -10 in 2nd Ed.
Be sure to buy this while at work so it makes it into your company's purchase circle.
This guy is FUBAR! His ultimate goal is to get the blood of a hibernating bear. If that bear decides to wake up, his suite better hold up to the challenge. Even if his suite holds up, the bear may not decide to let him go. His head would end up as a trophy in the bears den.
His suit is pretty amazing though. Right now he funds a lot of his research through selling various types of armor as sports equipment. Even if no amazing bear research gets done, a lot of good will come from his armor breaktrhroughs.
Yes, they do grab. It's not a full-fisted grab, but it is enough to pull harder than one can possibly imagined. I've seen bears pull branches off trees, and that was a much smaller black bear. Remember that the den is a VERY confined space. If the bear starts an attack in there, the guy's limbs will be pushed and pulled in all different directions.
I've seen this guys experiments. As impressive as they are, I am not convinced. If the guy was willing to attach himself to an inanimate object, then attach his arm to a truck, and had the truck pull the arm into some unnatural position without breaking it, then he might begin to convince me.
Imagine this situation. The guy is laying on his chest, with his arm on at about a 90 degree angle with the hand pointing towards his feet and the palms pointing upwards (a very natural position for someone laying on their chest). Then the bear puts its weight over the guy's shoulder or anywhere near the upper arm, grabs the hand, then pulls it upwards. Can you imagine the amount of torque that would place on the elbow and shoulder?
This whole bear suit deal reminds me of an experiment that was done with white sharks some years back. They were trying to develop this "shark proof" suit made from a very tuff metal mesh. They had successfully tested against smaller sharks, and had tested in the lab against penetration by a sharp blade driven at a force equivalent to a great white's jaws. So they put it on a test dummy, put some pieces of very bloody meat in there for bait, then threw it near a great white. The suit remained intact, yet the dummy was torn to bits by the ferocity of the attack.
Yes you're right, I didn't read the whole article before (don't need to go into the name calling by the way). I was relying on what I saw on National Geographic (Or was it the Discovery Channel?). I clearly remember him mentioning going into the den, and I remember him mentioning that he didn't want to use any tranquilizer in order not to contaminate the samples.
But even in this case. So far, from all the high-impact tests that I've seen, I haven't seen a single test against high torque joint manipulation on the suit. Yes, the suit may be restricted to the natural range of motion, but how strong are these range limiters? Can they support the full power and weight of a charging grizzly on a lever as long as a leg? And what about torsional forces, such as taking a leg that is bent 90 degrees at the knee, then spinning it outwards? That is still within the "natural range of motion".
I saw this one on National Geographic. The guy basically wants to go into a grizzly den, and take some blood samples while the bear is hibernating.
:)
The two main problems I see with this are.
1 - He has no mobility whatsoever in that suit. He can hardly walk, and forget about standing up after falling down. If the bear moves while he is in there, he will be trapped. Even if the bear doesn't move, there is a very good chance that he will be trapped.
2 - The suit may resist a bear's punch and claws, but the guy is still vunerable at the joints. If the bear grabs his arm, and pulls it around his back or up and over his head, there is one broken arm right there. Same thing can happen to his legs. I wouldn't want a grizzly playing lever with my leg, or putting its whole weight over my bent arm, no matter what I'm wearing or how invincible I feel.
Yet I wouldn't mind one of those the next time I go skiing. Tree? What tree?
He doesn't [mock] around with testing equipment; rather, he measures the real-world implications of the armor.
..Uh ...yeah ... bikers, tree trunks and 18 wheelers... real world grizzlys.
I saw that documentary a few years ago. You wouldn't beleive how much this guy is due for a long stay in a mental institute.
His so-called "research" has been "recognised" by the IgNobel institute as "research that should not have been undertaken and should never be conducted again". See
http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/ig_nobel/
for info on IgNobel, and
http://www.improbable.com/ig/ig-pastwinners.html
for a link directly to the winning entries of last year, including "Project Grizzly".
Dont take his "research" too seriously: his last suit (Ursus Mark VI) was so immobile that he couldn't even climb a small hill, as the hip joints would not allow his legs enough vertical movements. This forced him to abandon his research for that year (that's actually how the National Film Board's documentary ends...).
I saw this guy in his bear suit on TV...he went to a local trash dump and scared a bear to have it attack him and he was jumping down hills and having friends beat him with 2X4s ....too bad the thing costs so much otherwise I'd grab one just to say I had it. I can't remember how much they said but it was close to $100,000 I think. Only problem is its too bulky....if you were hiking through bear country and didn't want to get attacked this thing would surely protect you but you'd never get anywhere.
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I know Americans are just learning about the metric system so I'll try to inform rather than deride. You don't say kph (and certainly not in all caps). You say km/h. It would be nice if Americans could do things like everybody else this once.
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I'm very happy, however, to see the standardisation going on with dates. ISO-8601 is catching on in a big way. Finally, we won't have to wonder if 01(random separator)02 is February 1 or January 2. "1999-09-21 16:44:05.24 +00:00" and "09-21 16:45" are examples of ISO-8601 dates. (Most) Europeans give up their day-precedes-month convention, Americans give up the 12 hour clock, and everybody gains something much bigger.
PS. Can someone answer definitively the question "Is noon 12 pm or 12 am?"? I once witnessed a long argument about that and I don't remember there having been a result.
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Fuck the system? Nah, you might catch something.
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I hear lots of griping about lack of mobility, fatigue, stability, etc., all of which is highly justified, but you're not looking down the road, and you're judging a fledgling device against the staggering 'accomplishments' of science fiction.
He's a lot closer to that ideal than you think, and VERY close indeed to something that could have viable military applications.
Give the suit minimal powered assist and a lone soldier (with some specialized training and conditioning) could 'run' at a good clip for hours at a time, over almost any sort of terrain using minimal resources and leaving very little evidence (compared to a HumVee or whatever). Garage-level devices have been created that already do this sort of thing (no links off-hand, but I'm looking) without the 'armored' exterior.
You could also fit it with a self-contained breathing apparatus for use in harsh environments or underwater (underwater, of course, VASTLY increasing the complexity of engineering if you want to completely seal the enterior, although you could have the occupant wearing an inner enviro/survival type suit and then just build the shell to drain easily and quickly upon exiting the water).
Computer and electronic navigation and whatnot could be fitted, but I'd want to have manual backup (however primitive) for all vital operations (vision, hearing, etc.) I'd also want to be able to throw the suit into 'neutral' if the power plant is disabled, so I can move it under my own power, however inefficiently.
Such a device would not be used in a massive 'powered infantry' style ground conflict, but would instead be used exclusively for recon and 'terrorist' type attacks in the midst of enemy territory.
Weapons could easily be devised to thwart such a device (magnetic or sticky 'clingers' that stick to a hard to reach area of the suit and then drill or laser their way in to deposit a charge, armor-piercing missles and whatnot), but that would not negate its utility in specialized circumstances.
**>>BELCH
This guy deserves a major award from the hacker community. His spirit and determination is inspiring and admirable as he 'hacks' his way to a solution to a largely self-imposed problem is DIRECTLY comparable to the spirit of the original hackers twiddling away at that train set at MIT those many years ago.
I see a lot of mean-spirited postings decrying this guy a looney, but those posters, in my view are missing the whole point. The man has a technological vision, and he's using whatever resources he can find to see it through. He has a LOT to show for his efforts, unlike a LOT of the vaporware crap that gets hailed as 'visionary' these days.
Hacking is not specific to UNIX, C and shell-scripting. It's a state of mind.
This guy's got it.
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Ahh, for the days when my music sucked in an inspiredly-stupid way. Nowadays it's just mediocre. :)
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Yogi: Hey, Booboo, I see a picnic basket! Let's have lunch!
Booboo: I don't know, Yogi, what if the Knight Sabers catch us?
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Just put a small, durable computer in there(Image Recognition, targeting, et al...) and some weapons, and you'd have one heck of a marine unit.
On the other hand, it would seem you'd take a big dexterity penalty wearing this thing, so the old covered pit idea still works.
If you think about it, Troy's an amazing specimen. Here's a fellow that's obviously a little touched, but smart as hell, living in the woods, selling scrap metal, and building the most sophisticated armor systems on the planet. The guy has built, regardless of his motive, some amazing stuff, and he at least has an appreciation of his "eccentricity", and he understands why some think it's funny. He's a little bitter about the $$$, but if you go bust the way he has, that's got to leave a mark.
The world needs more Troys out there.
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"2. Do not eat iPod Shuffle."
Amazon.com has it here.
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All opinions expressed herein are my own, and not those of my employers, who are appalled.
I guess he may have come to the conclusion that he couldn't accomplish what he wanted without the use of tranquilizers.
:) But like I said, the only real proof of any of this will be when it happens.
As far as limb manipulation, as I said before, I'm sure his joints were wracked pretty hard with the previous testing. As for the new suit and it's 'class 10'(what type of system is that?) rating, well, no one can know how 100% how this thing will fare against a grizzly attack until it actually happens. Most grizzly attacks tend to be a mauling, and a bat to the head/torso (which can easily remove said head). Bears aren't too much into wrestling and figure-4 leglocks last time I checked.
1 - He has no mobility whatsoever in that suit. He can hardly walk, and forget about standing up after falling down. If the bear moves while he is in there, he will be trapped.
:)
If you read the article, you'd know he has no intention of entering the bear's den.
If the bear grabs his arm, and pulls it around his back or up and over his head, there is one broken arm right there.
Okay, I'll give you this one, because you haven't seen the suit in action. But if you had, his limbs are restricted to their natural range of motion. Don't you think that the force of being hit by a truck at 30m.p.h. would've broken something, or the 300lb. log, or perhaps the 150 ft. escarpment? If you see this in action, you'd understand. I mean, I watched Penn (or is it Teller? It was the big guy of the two) unwind on him *full tilt* with a baseball bat, that suit is so damn bulky, he doesn't even *flinch.* You'd think he was hitting him with a foam bat. Troy's my hero.
because if we did, this guy would be patrolling the streets at night, in his mighty suit of armor, protecting innocent civilians against the evils of... er... whatever supervillians happened to be around. Or something.
Of course, without a super-reactive neural-linked set of motors in that armor to give him super-strength, he'd be reduced to standing there chortling in a super-hero manner as they wasted all of their ammunition/strength on him. Then he'd end up vainly yelling at them to stop as they beat a hasty retreat.
>clunk!clunk!whew!CRASH!
And we'd call him "The Indestructable (but not wholly effective) Man!"
Just think; this guy can raise his capital by offering "extreme cliff diving"!
Bungie-jumping? Pfft, that's for wimps! What do you need a safety cord for? Just throw yourself off a 100-foot cliff -- and LIVE!
Now there's an adrenaline fix...
Jay (=
For the next time I get pulled over.
"Yes, officer bitch, I have a driver's license."
"Yes, officer pussy face, I have an insurance card"
"Kiss my ass barney fife, I don't CARE how fast I was driving."
"This ain't Miami Vice and you ain't Don Johnson. You and your piss ant 40 caliber can go to hell."
"Hey, officer XXXXXX I went to high school with your daughter, I was there when she blew the whole football team. Did she ever get those teeth replaced? I know she's made many men happy over the years."
Lord Kano
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
I know a lot of people are snickering, having seen the film. But, at least show the man's dedication some respect, and read the article.
He touches on some really good stuff there, and the potential for the new suit he's working on, the G-Man, is pretty awesome. 90% mobility, 120lbs!! As Troy says, it's the gear of a fully dressed fireman. Consider the SWAT/RIOT applications? The earthquake disaster recovery usage - where you don't have to worry about dying in a collapsed building, but you can still climb a crumbling stair case... The military apps, as some have said, approach Starship Troopers... Yeah, at $300K a piece it's pricey, but it's cheaper than a tank, and with some power-assist it might do just as much damage.
Then there's the blurb about the suit enabling him to get a sample of Grisly blood during semi-hibernation, for use in NASA research into astronaut hibernation for extended, deep-space flights.
At first glance at the vid this may seem goofy, but there's real potential there.
-- What you do today will cost you a day of your life.
Sure, it's probably great if you're going out in the dangerous woods, or for messing with angry bikers, but how comfortable would it actually be when in front of the computer? Seems I won't be needing anyone...
i remember seeing this in grade 13, which was 4 years ago. i remember seeing him get hit by trucks and thinking he was nuts.
but as this nutty guy continues, think of the implications: "Welcome to the zoo. Please do not get out of your suits. please be careful when petting the lions"
Yo moron, read the article before you post. Using it to sweep for mines is one of the ideas he was planning on using it for.
K, what I wanna know is, could you walk through a mine-field in one of these and survive a blast?
If so, it would be ideal mine-sweep armour.
--The more you know, the less you know.
Had a second look; missed that line.
--The more you know, the less you know.
>If I say it's got a Class 10 armor on it, which is probably four times the strength of any armor out there, that's because we've tested it in sections.
Why would anyone think they could get away with selling Class 10 armor for 1.2 million ca (obviously that is a typo and they mean cp. Weird Canadians, why can't they use gp like everyone else). Sheesh anyone with a good old Player's Handbook knows that even a plain old cloak will get you a Class 9. Heck, you could get cheap old chain mail and get a whole Class 5 and that might cost 10000 cp (100 gp, but those Canuks?!). I personally would want some decent Plate Mail for a wonderful class 3 (and at only 30000 cp, a comparative steal).
Is this thing some sort of artifact? Am I missing something?
Arrogance is Confidence which lacks integrity. -- me
Think of the great uses:
Mommy can I have one for XMass.
-cpd
So where can you buy the video?
JW
What's all the heavy armor for? I can't think of a bear that doesn't roll over laughing when he sees this thing coming...
the pun is mightier than the sword
But what happens when the bears get one of these suits? The larger weight and superior strength of the bear will enable it to prevail still.
It's just another escalating arms race. Peace Now!
No Suits! No Suits! No Suits!
Hmmm, Velocity * Mass / Stupidity = Bear Suit...
:-)*
In your subject line you show an inversely proportional relationship between Stupidity and Bear Suit.
Meaning that more Bear Suits will decrease stupidity. Makes sense to me, it'd be pretty stupid to roam bear country without any protection.
I assume you have no bear suits soooooo you have infinite stupidity.
The answer to that age old question - YES - it is possible to watch Robocop too many times?
I hope this title makes it to my local video rental store - it's not something I would buy, but $5.00 overnight would be a small price to pay to see this little jewel.
Just the mental image of this guy being piss-bowled by a small truck has me in hysterics, not to mention launching himself off an escarpment....it's gotta be like that super-sumo stuff they do in pubs and nightclubs!
Sure there may be some legitimate scientific uses for this kind of tech, but the comedy value alone is outstanding...
Oh do you mean this part?
Bear deterrent sprays. You can buy them in stores in the States and Canada. You go into the store, you pay 50 to 60 bucks, you get a little can. And it's bear spray;
you take it into the bush. Well, they don't work. I mean they wouldn't stop a dog, let alone a bear.
There was three links to read, I read the last two, and skimmed the first. I do this at work so I don't have much time. Anyway, I thought I had read enough to post. I hate it when someone posts with out reading too, but hey I missed that "bear spray" part. I had to go back and read it again to see what you were talking about.
Geeze, don't get so p*ssed off. I was just trying to make a point about the suit that I saw when it airred on TV.
The "bear repellent" remark was just to say that I wouldn't count on it. And as the story says, It won't work.
Steven Rostedt
-- Nevermind
Nothing irritates me more than people who post on Slashdot without ever previewing their comments to see if they are correct!
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So this baby has a natural AC of -10. With a good Dex (say, 16), enough Strength to move this baby around, and say, a body shield, you're walking around with a -14 AC without magic adjustment. Fear the Barbarian wearing that thing!
(Disclaimer: YES, I know he wasn't talking about D&D AC.)
"There is no surer way to ruin a good discussion than to contaminate it with the facts."
This Bear Suit sounds like it's an awkward approach to the problem it was designed to solve (sustain a Grizzly's attack), but it sounds like it has fantastic applications. Put a cop in that suit, and off he goes into a terrorist-laden building. Make this suit airtight, and you've got a Battletech-like elemental suit.
I bet this suit will be useful down the line. His creator will be barely remembered, only perhaps as a footnote, as the guy who tried so very hard, but didn't quite succeed in the end. They'll look back on the wacko shaving with a Bowie, and smile, thinking the only application he saw was to tackle bears.
I wish him luck. He may be insane, but the most remarkable men are.
"There is no surer way to ruin a good discussion than to contaminate it with the facts."
Hey, this guy is living proof on network television that the real wacko hillbillies are living north of the border, not in the Ozarks.
Then again, the guy sounds more interesting in the interview than he seems as the two dimensional hick weirdo from the sticks portrayed on TV. So I guess he's really an inventive and innovative wacko hillbilly from north of the border.
-M
I'm sure it could be useful for extreme environments (ie space/underwater work) where you don't want a simple accident killing you.
I hope he's got the patents, he could make money on it.
As a side-note, they will also be live web-casting the presentation, although I sincerely hope it won't be slashdotted. I don't have tickets. :)
I've actually been involved with the IgNobel people for several years now, and Marc Abrahams - the heart and soul of the Awards - genuinely respects him. Troy is leaps and bounds more scientifically respectable than the inventor of the plastic lawn flamingo or some guy who puts Barney dolls in formaldehyde (both of whom have received awards).
What Marc and the others were stunned at was the fact that Troy tests all of this stuff on himself. He doesn't much around with testing equipment; rather, he measures the real-world implications of the armor.
I, for one, think that there is something to all this. He's not someone to be snickered at and dismissed, even if he has won an IgNobel.
It mentioned in the article that he is coming to Harvard on the 30th and to MIT sometime afterwards. Does anybody have info for those of us in that live in cambridge (but are not students), telling us how we can get tickets?
You can find the info about tickets here. It has info about a free showing of a film about the bear suit at MIT tomorrow night (wednesday 9-22-99) and the ignoble award ceremony on the 30th at harvard. Plus some other related stuff.
See you all there.
Sure, its a nice place for hipsters to log
on to and make believe good writing has
to be 4.3 words per line with retro graphics.
Oh, how I can see them holding their mouse
in one hand and a martini in the other.
Its not like formating that can be classified
somewhere between wacky and stupidass is so bad,
I mean this IS the WWW. Its that once you
remove the pretentious air, arrogant attitude,
and bad webdesign theres just no content.
How about "Project Great White" - A set of water wings(Preferably rubber ducky) that resist being crushed by a Great White Shark.
I think this has more practical applications.
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Yes...but can he sustain being hit by a log, which is dropped from a truck which is driven by a bear? The big questions still remains. For God's sake...WHY???
you obviously didn't read the f*cking story because it talked about the effectiveness of bear repellent.
Nothing irritates me more than people who post on Slashdot without ever reading the fucking material first.
sheesh. sorry for that little rant.
I believe it was over $150,000 total cost for the final model that he never found a bear to attack him in. I rented the CBC production video a couple of years ago. There must be a new one since he didn't manage to find any bears in the video I saw.
Still worth the rent to hear the story of what inspired the suit and to see him getting hit with trucks,logs and 2x4's.
So much to learn so little time.
This was actually on Fox's Guiness book of record(?) show. It was really spectacular to see him get hit by a truck and going flying...
Seems kind of bitter though, huh?
Computers can only simulate determinism. ~Hermetic.
1. If this specially designed anti-bear suit sees wide use, what's going to happen when the bears start carrying rocket launchers? Could a giant human vs. bears arms race be started?
2. Will the suit run linux? I don't think I'd trust windows CE to protect me from bears.