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Berst Names Young/Torvalds 2 of 7 People to Watch

De writes "Jesse Berst of ZDNet has named Linus Torvalds and Bob Young as two of his seven people to watch in the next decade. In a gratifying side note, Bill Gates was named as one of the people to leave behind. *grin* " Linus was named as the person in hardware to watch, while Young was named the person in operating system.

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  1. bah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With all due respect, who cares what Jesse Burst thinks? Even if he is prasing Linus *this time*.

    Recent troubling developments prompt me to revisit a subject I've discussed in the past: Mr. Jesse Burst and his plan to cause this country to flounder on the shoals of self-interest, corruption, and chaos. With this letter, I hope to plant markers that define the limits of what is randy and what is not. But first, I would like to make the following introductory remark: He is every bit as sordid as catty ragamuffins. All in all, he is careless with data, makes all sorts of causal interpretations of things without any real justification, has a way of combining disparate ideas that don't seem to hang together, seems to show a sort of pride in his own biases, gets into all sorts of selfish speculation and then makes no effort to test out his speculations -- and that's just the short list! I must blow my whistle on Mr. Burst's tactics of deception and distortion. And that's it. I stand foursquare in defense of liberty, freedom of speech, and the right to criticize grumpy journalists.

    Thanks for listening.

  2. Re:is this the same jesse berst? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Exactly.

    It will doubtlessly surprise some people to hear me say this, but Mr. Jesse Burst is a faithful student of Sun Tzu, the ancient Chinese strategist who advocated demoralizing one's enemy as the highest art of warfare. First off, Mr. Burst seeks scapegoats for his own shortcomings by blaming the easiest target he can find, that is, batty acrimonious hippies. Even venal bohemians are ashamed of being associated with his self-satisfied reasoning and goofy ploys. This is not rhetoric. This is reality. There is one final irony to my story. My earnest denunciation of Mr. Jesse Burst's orations must have failed to register with Mr. Burst as being legitimate sentiment.

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  4. Good ole Homos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taking a quick jab at MS even though the numbers do not lie.

    This is not news. It's bullshit.

  5. You forgot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You forgot "Y2K turned out to be a big dud, and Apple sucks." and the ever-so-popular "Apple sucks, and Apple sucks."

  6. Berst is like a weatherman... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ...he has nothing of his own to offer, just obvoius self-apparent regurgitated garbage.

    He missed his true calling as a weatherman or a CNBC stock prognosticator.

  7. Jesse Berst's columns are written by a commitee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The reason Jesse Berst is so inconsistent is he doesn't write his own column. A staff of freelancers supply a pile of articles and the editors pick and choose and push them in a queue.

    Remember this is the same column that called the Linux IPOs "irrational exhuberance" and now they label Linus and Young as visionaries of the future.

    Come on /. stop feeding traffic to ZD!

  8. Re:Berst = Worst by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a trend spotter he is - anyone can pick those guys. He also seems to have vendettas against the 4 to leave behind. This guy is a an example of those people you wonder why they are still employed and allowed to output such insignificant polls/top 10s/best of lists. I would hate to berst his bubble, but relics like Dvorak and Berst should really pass the torch or use the torch to ignite the gas constantly emitting from what seems to be every orafice of their body.

  9. Re:JB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol, you suck

  10. Re:Oh, look, Apple-bashing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    actually, the economy is collapsing
    it's been collapsing for a year, every banker knows it, and that's why every banker steals from their own bank. A man that works in the bank of england has been caught, stealing near 1 billion dollars. Everyone knows that the economy is going to collapse, Y2k probably won't do it, but it will happen anyway in a couple of months.

  11. Re:Oh, look, Apple-bashing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    btw, there's an article on it here http://www.larouchepub.com/lar_world_war_iii_2633. html
    http://www.larouchepub.com/lar_can_you_survive_263 0.html

  12. Re:Oh, look, Apple-bashing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .... and Apple sucks

  13. www.microsoft.com is down... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    how about that?

    At least their routers are still up...

    1. Re:www.microsoft.com is down... by Woody77 · · Score: 1

      MS's site is still up, and goes directly to thier Y2k page... Guess they think people will need to hit their site a lot for Y2K advice (or updates...)

  14. Re:Losers -- US... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmmm....So our technology is getting worse over here? Not fast enough? To me, it's only been getting better in my lifetime, and no amount of Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Jesse Helms or whoever is going to change that.

  15. Re:Leave Bill Gates behind? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hopefully they will end up like IBM:

    Despised as bullies for running the show in the 70s and 80s, they finally are getting it right by playing the facilitator to other companies, supporting open source, stepping out of the limelight, and spending billions on basic research. Any still making money!

  16. translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    goodbye to capitalism
    hello to communism GRIN :-)

  17. Re:Hardware and OS choices misleading... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is being overly pedantic like being overly pregnant?

  18. hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do you guys always need to cum in your pants each time someone mentions Linus? Is it some sort of ass lust?

  19. Berst's writing sucks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've never taken much stock in any of the crap that he writes, and this article is not any different.

  20. Re:is this the same jesse berst? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's not hard to do. ZDNET archives everything online. You just need to know how to find it.

  21. Time for a "ZDNet" category. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So that those of use who could not care less what the National Enquirer of the computer industry has to say can filter out these stories. I propose a big puckered anus with some fat lips pressed up against it as the icon for the Ziff Davis category.

  22. Jesse Bust by hogwaller · · Score: 2
    Berst is a parasite. He's a candle-headed spit-licker. I don't read his crap anymore, as he's one puny footsoldier in the army of clue-starved journalists looking for something to write about.


    Saying that Linus is someone to watch takes zero effort or research. If he was really clued, he'd write about Rasmus Lerdorf and the folks who've been developing PHP. They're quietly redefining
    server-side scripting, and will eventually blow ASP out of the water.

  23. Berst? by zonker · · Score: 0
    Berst... Icky...


    / k.d / earth trickle / Monkeys vs. Robots Films /

  24. Red Hat by Norbert+de+Jonge · · Score: 1

    Okay, this story by Jesse "How to Add a Year to Your Life" Berst is a bit old, but the question if super-leet-hackers will abandon Red Hat if it becomes too dominant is interesting. If they continue investing in the right things and people, why should we? They made the right choices. The odds between Windows and Red Hat Linux are not that enormous (well... Linux is more stable, fast, flexible, open); it is good to have people working on for example Gnome, if you want world domination fast, that is. And if it all turns out to be worse than we thought... (almost) all their stuff is GPL-ed.

    Norbert de Jonge
    (hack@altavista.net)

  25. my turn to be Berst by arielb · · Score: 2

    Bill Gates didn't create Windows. Windows is popular because he helped sell it. Bob Young didn't do anything to create Linux-but he helped sell it through Redhat. Likewise, Linus may not be the key engineer in transmeta but once again he'll help sell it (i.e people will want transmeta because of the Linus connection) ugh I don't want to turn into Berst anymore

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  26. Hardware and OS choices misleading... by xinit · · Score: 3
    Personally I'm confused about his thought process on the selections for both OS and Hardware.

    Given, Bob's done some interesting things towards making a business model based around open source, but I'm not sure if Operating Systems is the right category for this. I use RH, but I don't see IT as an Operating System - but then again, I may be overly pedantic.

    And Linus is the Linux guy, but he isn't the Transmeta guy - he's likely the only person there that also has an OS named after him, but the chip isn't a one person show. Honestly, Jesse.

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  27. Why Linus? -> That's why! by Slayer · · Score: 1

    Linus makes about three times as much as the average high tech worker in the silicon valley, and that not without reason. Supposedly Linus was instrumental within the DOS EMU development where they basically have to fully emulate an 80X86 processor - pretty much what that mysterious Transmeta chip is supposed to do some day.

    You can safely assume that Linus wouldn't have accepted a random hardware development job if he couldn't use his previous experience.

  28. polarized pundits by banky · · Score: 4

    Has anyone noticed that of the general body of computer pundits, they all seem to have abandoned that "wait and see" stance from about a year ago, and now they are all taking a stance on Linux? I have wondered why the pro-Win2k guys have started their FUD (it was released to manufacturing - I guess that means it stable and full-featured, real world results be damned) and others (Berst, et al) have now decided that Linux is OK.

    Conspiracy theory: Since we all know ZDNet is owned by MS anyway, BillG has ordered that they take a positive stance on Linux, so as to show that MS has plenty of competition.
    Business Case Theory: With the billion-dollar market cap of Red Hat and VA Linux, they want advertising dollars, and they know both companies want more space in mainstream market publications (I mean, really, did you buy a VA Linux server because of the ad in Linux Journal? No, you already knkew who they were, but Joe Sixpack doesn't). The corollary is that the "Linux will be crushed" guys are doing it because if Win2k tanks, they won't be able to refocus their business (maybe).
    Misanthrope Theory: People are morons.

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  29. is this the same jesse berst? by brazilian+brain · · Score: 1

    It would be interesting to run a diff between what Berst says today, and what he used to write (about Linux) a year and a half ago :)

  30. He left out the obvious by RobertEdwards · · Score: 1

    Jesse Berst doesn't matter.

  31. Re:Linux - is it for everyone? even a newbie like by SoftwareJanitor · · Score: 2

    I can run an ADSL on the OS (or cable modem).

    I use Linux at home, and have ADSL. It is really quite simple. I have the external Cisco 675 DSL router hooked up to my 24 port switching hub and my Linux boxes hooked into that. For simple single machine hookups, you can run a crossover network cable directly between the DSL router and the computer and you don't need a hub. One of the Linux boxes has my DSL IP assigned to it, the others all use an internal IP. The firewall/proxy server machine is a wimpy Pentium 75 with 64M of RAM (used to be 32M) and a 4.3G hard drive (I use squid, a cacheing proxy server to speed up web browsing).
    I know a number of people who use the @home cable modem service with Linux and have seen posts from people who use RoadRunner cable modems with Linux. I think their external cable modems hook up pretty similarly to the way the Cisco 675 does.

    I like the lower cost of Linux compared even to 95/98. Compared to NT it is significantly lower in cost.
    Most of the other software I need is either free or cheap for Linux. I have purchased a few other peices of software such as the commercial version of WordPerfect, but at under $100 retail, it is cheaper than Microsoft Word anyway.
    Not only does Linux and the key software I use with it cost less, Linux is significantly more efficient with its use of hardware resources. NT would be nearly unusable in the configuration I have for what I use that P75 box for, let alone when it only had 32M in it.
    I like the reliability and stability of Linux. I have my key Linux boxes on UPSes, and they just run and run and run. My experience with NT has been that it is better than 95/98 in stability, but still no match for Linux.

    Basically Linux lets me do things at home that there is no way I could afford to do legally if I used Microsoft products. Even if I had a much larger computer budget I still wouldn't enjoy the reliability I do with Linux if I used Microsoft.

  32. They left out the OBVIOUS choice by GW+Hayduke · · Score: 2

    What about our mentor Al Gore ? *GRIN*
    a cyberjuggernaut/politcally sound/hep cat like that is a definate ringer for this arena

    yeah yeah moderate this down into oblivion

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  33. Re:Leave Bill Gates behind? by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

    I think that saying that Bill Gates and Microsoft aren't worth watching, as Berst seems to have done, is insane

    Once a corporation gets to be above a certain size, it has far more to lose than to gain by real change.

    Microsoft, being the largest capitalized corporation in the world is clearly in that category. Over the next decade what are they going to do any differently that what they did over the last 5 years? They will be boring as hell.

    Watching Microsoft is going to be like watching paint dry.

  34. Re:Leave Bill Gates behind? by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

    Microsoft, being the largest capitalized corporation in the world is clearly in that category.

    Uh... I think there are bigger companies in the US, not mentioning the rest of the world. The name IBM or Bayer just comes to mind...


    Uh yourself. Microsoft is the largest capitalized corporation in the world. Capitalization = stock prices times number of outstanding shares. Second is GE. IBM or General Motors is probably #3.

    If you talk about sales or number of employees or some other measure I am sure you will come up with a different ranking.

    if the same growth is going to take place in the next 5 years mr. BillG is going to buy the US.

    Not very likely. Over the last two years Microsoft's growth has really slowed. If you extrapolate trends (dangerous) they will probably lose their lead quite soon to companies like Cisco and Qualcomm.

    Just this year Qualcomm has gone from 3% of the value of Microsoft to 60%. Some analysts have already predicted another doubling of Qualcomm stock which would cause it to surpass Microsoft.

  35. Re:You're obviously confusing me with . . by nd · · Score: 1

    I agree. It does satisfy me to see his stories submitted on Slashdot and then torn to pieces, though.

    I don't think anyone takes him (or ZDNet) seriously anymore, except people like my dad who just don't know.

  36. Dear Mr. Berst by nd · · Score: 1

    Hey, Jesse Berst.. I think I've come on to something that may spark your interest - get you in on the ground floor of something.

    .. sliced bread!

  37. no list by serialk · · Score: 1


    stop feeling the urge to make top lists out of

    everything its too trite !?$?&?7856&*?5(?879?&*(

  38. Visibility by barzok · · Score: 1
    Because Linus is a rather visible person. How many other people at Transmeta does the world know by name, besides Dave Taylor (ddt)? Who's been making the public appearances for Transmeta?

    Jesse Berst isn't much deeper into the industry than the average PC World reader. And he doesn't cater to people who are in much deeper than the average PC World reader. So it's a pretty easy conclusion to make that he's just seeing the people that appear in front of the camera.

  39. From one extreme to the other... by sugarman · · Score: 3

    While Mr. Berst does seem to be on the right track with his "who to watch", I don't think it would be wise to give up on Mr. Gates just yet.

    Not that I'm a fan or anything. Just that I have a feeling that " a cornered animal fights fiercest" (or something along those lines).

    Also, Mr. Berst's reason for counting out Microsoft may not be valid either. He states that the new start-ups may not be talking about M$. However, he doesn't state that they're talking about the competition either.

    A lot of these new net players may, whether you like or not, simply consider M$ a given in the situation, which is why they don't stand out. M$ has made gains in getting a large amount of the web to run off their products (I don't know about you, but I;m seeing more and more .asp webpages all the time), and their market share isn't going to evaporate overnight, especially with Win2K on the horizon.

    No M$ love here, but if we're going to succeed, we have to remember the wise words of Gold Leader "Stay on target. Stay on target."

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    1. Re:From one extreme to the other... by TimeWaste · · Score: 3

      It's clear that Jesse lives in a world of Silicon Valley startups, not the "real worlds" or either corporate computing or home computing. Microsoft is the number one player in those areas, by a long margin.

      Besides the good reasons you mentioned, the other reason to keep an eye on Microsoft is their huge investments in core technologies that are going to continue to be hot throughout the next decade: $1B investment in AT&T that will result in Microsoft software in AT&T cable set top boxes, WirelessKnowledge, a joint venture with Qualcomm (yes, the one with the meteoric stock increase) that will bring email to cell phone users via Microsoft back-end servers, and the list goes on and on. These investments are one of the major reasons that analysts and fund managers love Microsoft stock: Microsoft doesn't just rely on one market, like most of the startups in Jesse's world.

  40. Linux maybe just right for you if... by soldack · · Score: 2
    Linux may not be for everyone yet...but it is getting there. I consider the biggest advantage of using Linux to be its stability. I currently use RedHat 6.1 on a lowly Pentium 200 (no MMX) with only 32 MB of RAM. I have only crashed once in five years. To contrast, my Win95 boot path on the same system crashes several times a month and NT can barely run on my system. On my bigger, better system at work, NT does better but still has crashed about 15 to 20 times over the last year.
    Cable modems work really well under Linux. Most just use an enternet connection from the cable box to a 10Mb ethernet card. Linux handles most ethernet cards, including popular cards from 3Com and Intel.
    I am not sure about ADSL...I do not know how they set it up in homes. Business DSL usually uses a DSL router and then ethernet to the computers. Perhaps home DSL works like a cable modem. If so the the answer is yes, Linux supports ADSL.
    Everyday Linux is getting easier to use. There are lots of applications with some of your Windows favorites ported and looking very similar. Windows friends include Netscape Communicator, RealPlayer, WorkPerfect, and WinAmp (renamed x11amp in the Linux world). There various emulation applications for applications that have not been ported. At some point all Windows applications will run under Linux. You have all the things you are used to in Windows: Icons, Start Menus, TaskBars, and lots applications. The big difference for Linux is that most of the applications are free.
    Another Linux offers far and above any other OS is choice and control. Everything can be custimize. This is why Linux is so hard to explain: it is many different things to many different people. This may make it confusing at first but I really appreciate being able to tweak things just the way I like it. It makes me more productive and a happier computer user.
    There are a few areas where Linux does lag behind:
    1. Standardization and Interoperability:
      With out a companies control, most applications do not "talk" to each other. Applications can look and feel very different from one another. This is being slowly resolved but the issue still remains.
    2. No Plug 'N Play:
      Adding devices to Linux, especially without reinstalling can be a pain. On the upside, there is lots of help on the net and this is also getting better. Driver support is expanding and many companies are starting to support Linux.
    3. Games:
      If gaming is the main thing you use your computer for then Linux may not be for you. It still lags behind Windows and Mac for availability. We do have Doom and Quake, though! This is also an area that is starting to get better.

    That's about it. Also, remember that there ways to set up Linux so that you do not have to give up Win9x/NT yet. Both sides support multiple boot paths allowing you to have several operating systems installed at once. There is even software for running them at the same time! Good luck!
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  41. Pundits == parasites? Yes sir! by soldack · · Score: 2

    I can't stand media pundits trying to raise things to mythic proportions or squish things like a bug. The same guys who said "What's a Linux?" are the same ones jumping on the band wagon. Linus at Transmeta... he just works there! Linux is named after him but somehow the head of a distributer is more important. Huh? Was CompUSA more important to Windows than Microsoft? I don't get that line of thought. Also, since when did an infinite supply of money, power, and a huge userbase not matter? I just went to Microsoft's latest PlugFest for hardware vendors. The place was packed with companies scrambiling to support Windows 2000 and Windows Millenium. MS still owns the leading software product (Office), the leading OS (Windows), the leading WedMail provider (HotMail), the leading internet tv system (WebTV)...the list goes on. IBM lost the throne but didn't disappear. MS could just as easily go the same way. Who knows? Trying to predict anything in the software industry is crazy. No one thought that MS would win so big. No one thought that IBM would lose. Some pundits predicted that they would die off completely. Not so; they still are a computing powerhouse making everything form harddrives to super computers. Who would have guessed it that VaLinux's IPO would set a world's record? Not any these "I told you so!" pundits.
    I don't need predictions, I just want news. That's all. No editorials, no predictions, no personal ego inflated rants.
    Joe Friday said it best:
    "Just the facts!"

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  42. Re:Linux - is it for everyone? even a newbie like by pos · · Score: 2

    Linux is not for everyone yet. It has a pretty steep and frustrating learning curve. Persistance will pay off, however. Cable Modems are simple to run off of Linux. I know that ADSL is easy if you have an external hardware DSL modem like my company does. (Actually we use BSD as our server) I have heard that any DSL isn't so hard to set up in linux but I have no first hand knowledge.

    Go to Linux Newbie for info.

    Linux is like a multi-user, multi-tasking, DOS on steroids. You need a GUI to sit on top of it if you want a windowing environment much the way win3.1/win95/win98 sit on top of DOS.

    Try MandrakeLinux first because it is the most beginner friendly. Hope this helps and good luck.

    -pos

    The truth is more important than the facts.

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  43. Re:Leave Bill Gates behind? by TPx · · Score: 1

    Microsoft, being the largest capitalized corporation in the world is clearly in that category.

    Uh... I think there are bigger companies in the US, not mentioning the rest of the world. The name IBM or Bayer just comes to mind...

    Microsoft is the biggest software company, but that doesn't make them automatically the largest corp ever.

    Over the next decade what are they going to do any differently that what they did over the last 5 years? They will be boring as hell. Watching Microsoft is going to be like watching paint dry.

    Really? Well, if I was Bill, I surely will undersign this statement. Look at MS stock price 5 years ago and look at it now. If the same growth is going to take place in the next 5 years, mr. BillG is going to buy the US.

  44. not really... by coli · · Score: 1

    I don't know why I have to point this out but...

    Succeess is done behind the scene.

    Those out in the spot light are celebraties. And pretty much it...

  45. Berst is so intuitive... by jfinke · · Score: 1

    I make my living spoting trends... At the same speed for you to tell me today that there were a lot of bright colors in the 80's. Boy can this dude be full of himself..

  46. JB by Duxup · · Score: 2

    Reading JB knock Bill Gates is like the time I taught my 3.5 year old cousin to scream "SUCKS" every time he heard someone say the word "Microsoft". As nice as it was, I wouldn't think it much of an accomplishment if my, now 4 year old, cousin happen to accidentally give me good advice about what the future holds either.

    1. Re:JB by donutello · · Score: 1

      Ok, reading was obviously not one of my strongest skills. What I should have said is your cousin has now achieved the same maturity level as the average reader of slashdot.

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    2. Re:JB by donutello · · Score: 2

      Congratulations! You have now achieved the exact same maturity level as the average reader of slashdot - which happens to be the same as that of your 4-year-old cousin.

      I eagerly anticipate the day when you guys grow up.

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    3. Re:JB by Beatles · · Score: 0

      This is the best comment I've seen all day!

      Please don't waste moderation points on me..

  47. Why are we paying attention to Berst? by -=Cynic=- · · Score: 2

    I was pretty shocked to see Slashdot actually regarding something that crawled out of Jesse Berst's mouth as semi-reliable. Come on! It's Jesse Berst! For those of you who want to know why we should all detest this low-life, here's few good reasons:

    1. Jesse is completely inconsistent. To say that he speaks with a forked tongue is to resist the temptation to use the description "multipartite".

    2. Jesse's information is suspect, and that's on his better days. This year he has:
    * Predicted the downfall of Mozilla and the death of Internet Explorer.
    * Predicted the rise of Mozilla and the downfall of Internet Explorer.
    * Predicted the acceptance of Linux.
    * Predicted the rejection of Linux.
    * Predicted the slow-and-steady growth of Linux.
    * Predicted the Y2K problems as catastrophic.
    * Predicted that there would be no Y2K trouble.
    ....and all this in a matter of weeks. He must have a billion dissenting voices in his head!

    3. Jesse stoops to the lowest of the low tactics that tabloids hesitate to use. He does not mind taking anything out of context, or smearing anyone and anything with unfounded claims. For some examples of this, just look at latest piece on Mozilla, then look at the Mozillazine response to see that just about every single one of his claims are baseless!

    Please, if you're going to post anything else that Jesse writes, post it under "It's Funny. Laugh."

    -=Yusuf=-
  48. You're obviously confusing me with . . by Money__ · · Score: 2
    . .someone who gives a shit about Jesse Berst and ZDNet.

    :)
    _________________________

  49. Burst, Jesse Berst! by Gene77 · · Score: 2
    Oh, you must be thinking of the other Jesse. The one that said Star Office was a wasted effort, because no one has ever beaten Microsoft in that market. The man mentioned here is a master of deduction. Then again, there's a Jesse Berst who seems to bow to those in power and loves to say stuff like this simply so the coporate Microsoft stooges out there can feel like their getting balanced and cutting editorials.

    Jess has also said that StarOffice wouldn't succeed simply because no one has successfully beaten Microsoft at Bill's own game. Now, that's insight into how industries ought to conduct themselves! ... "No one's done this before, so as an ambitious entrepeneur, I realize I should do something else instead." Right, Jesse!

    Unfortunately, Jesse Berst is hardly insightful even for the pundits, and has never impressed any honestly tech-savvy individual.

    Remember, you can't spell "progress" without "twit"!

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  50. Losers -- US... by MicroBerto · · Score: 3

    The second page reports this about the losers (which include Steve Jobs and Billy Goates):

    WORLD LEADER: BILL CLINTON, THE UNITED STATES

    Sad but true. Under his watch, U.S. companies have turned from entrepreneurs to spoiled children. While we bicker about wireless standards and broadband access and revel in our stock options, nations like China and Finland will usurp our lead


    I have to begin to agree with the fact that our technology sector is going to lose it if we do not get proper regulation from people who KNOW what's going on. You can't have 80 year old men regulate something they don't know what their talking about. The same goes for anything, you can't let idiots control the economy if they don't understand economics. I think that the tech industry is going to be spun into a ditch if we aren't allowed more freedom.


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  51. The /. Effect Once Again by OakLEE · · Score: 1

    Isn't it intresting that Linus beet out the likes of Steve Case and has more then 25% of the vote (at last check.) Keep up the good work slashdoters.

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  52. Re:They left out the OBVIOUS choices by k_k2 · · Score: 1

    While we are on the topic of the Bills, how about giving dear old Boris (whose stepping down was the biggest shock you could have given me apart from the one I'd have gotten if the bug had had a major effect) his due? And while I am certainly no fan of his, bashing Bill Gates is becoming fashionable, isn't it? In the spirit of the times then, does anyone here think the Win2k bug will be any more of a problem than it's close cousin? Kiran

  53. Re:Why Linus? by DoctorPepper · · Score: 1

    Because, if you haven't noticed, Mr. Berst is a
    friggin' idiot. Try reading his Berst Alert on
    ZDNet.

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  54. Leave Bill Gates behind? by MaximumBob · · Score: 1
    Humminah? Come again? I mean, granted, this is a Linux advocacy site, and I'm probably just going to get flamed, but I think that saying that Bill Gates and Microsoft aren't worth watching, as Berst seems to have done, is insane. Billy-boy still has $80 bil TO HIS NAME. His company is richer than a goodly chunk of the world's governments.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that everyone should like MS because they're rich. I'm just saying, David didn't beat Goliath simply by telling him that he had a better way, closing his eyes, and pretending Goliath wasn't there.

  55. Huge yawn. by Master+of+Puppets · · Score: 2

    Berst is a dork, but that wouldn't be so bad of itself. There are a lot of these industry pundits that are huge dorks, leftovers from a time -- early 80's -- where "microcomputers" were new, no one knew where they were going, and publishers needed to find "experts", really just personalities with a technical bent, whose names they could tack onto columns and market to a business readership hungry to tune into, well, experts. "Oh yeah!? Well, John Dvorak says blah, blah, blah ..."

    What makes Jesse Berst worse than the dork company he keeps is the fact that he's a boring dork. There's very little he uncovers that's really new or interesting, and his "insights" are rarely anything more than the latest marketing headlines culled from the latest press releases from the latest hype machines, which is why he is now saying watch Torvalds.

    And now he's saying leave Gates behind. Well, folks, don't get me wrong, I'm not a Microsoft fan, though I'm forced to use it, I proselytize Linux as much as anyone, and I have generated my own geekcode, but if I had a dime every time some industry trend dipwad dork told his/her readership to count Gates out because they only perceived obstacles that they, with their characteristically limited vision -- which is why they're "trend watchers" and not highly paid marketing or financial analysts -- would be troubled by, then I'd have way enough cash to be able to leave my webmaster job and get a big house in La Jolla and have lots of oiled-up sex with ex-Penthouse models.

    Ultimately, my advice, for what it's worth:

    $Berst->packForget();

  56. It's funny you mention this ... by martin-k · · Score: 5
    It's funny you mention this cause Slashdot rejected a story proposal of mine just two days ago regarding this Jesse Berst quote:

    "Betting $5 on a 100-to-1 underdog can be fun. Betting $50,000 would be foolish. Yet some PC users are making similarly outrageous wagers on Linux, the underdog in the operating-system wars."

    Exactly _how many_ Jesse Bersts are out there?

    here's the link...

  57. He's right about the US by browser_war_pow · · Score: 1

    Competition in telecom is absolutely over rated. All of my relatvies, teachers and friends who remembered ma ball talk about how great it was and how terrible our system is now! Screw competition if it means advancing forward technologically. Microsoft will die on its own, it is time to kill the antitrust laws so we can move on and re-estalish ourselves as global leaders. Either that our we should have an iq test for anyone running for office because I doubt most of our current crop of politicians would pass one.

  58. Bill Gates doesn't matter? by vanguard · · Score: 1

    This is really wrong. Okay, MS isn't on the cutting edge anymore but they have almost $30 Billion is cash and about $500 Trillion in stock. They can buy their way into relevance.

    You may be thinking that the anti-trust hearing will stop that. It won't. AT&T was allowed to enter more markets after their anti-trust trial. If the DOJ does anything to MS they will probably give them a reward to go with their punishment.

    They big question (according to me) is how far they will fall before they rise again. We've seen it with IBM, we'll see it with MS. $30 Billion in cash doesn't just vanish.

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  59. Oh, look, Apple-bashing. by Myoot · · Score: 3

    I'd like to see Berst write one article in which he doesn't go out of his way to bash Apple. "The new Intel chip is fast, and Apple sucks." "The economy is great, and Apple sucks." "I make a living spotting trends, and Apple sucks." It's annoying.

    1. Re:Oh, look, Apple-bashing. by gwalla · · Score: 2

      "Apple is making truckloads of money, and Apple sucks."
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  60. Re:The Way of Torvalds by Carnage4Life · · Score: 2

    Does it mean that Linux has moved from the geek community represented by Torvalds, to the corporate community represented by Young?
    Does it mean that Torvalds' working in Transmeta has undermined his position is Operating Systems and he is now an innovative hardware guy?

    The answer to both questions is no primarily because Jesse Berst does not have a clue about what he is talking about.
    Elaboration
    The operating system is named after Linus; he controls the builds, owns the Linux trademark and decides what goes into the kernel...Bob Young runs a company that sells a pretty user friendly distro and has made a good name for themselves in the corporate world. Now you tell me who deserves to be the OS man of the millenium.
    hint: his initials aren't B.Y.

    Your second question implies that you haven't been reading the trades or Slashdot and hearing Linus's name mentioned a hundred times with regards to Linux with an after-thought mention that he now works for the super secretive startup Transmeta. This implies to me that to everyone else except Jesse Berst, Linus is the OS guy who created the newest competitor to MSFT's Windows a couple of years ago because he couldn't afford a flavor of Unix.

    PS: Jesse Berst is an idiot to say that simply because the startups he has talked to do not mention MSFT in conversations with him, the World's biggest and most valuable computer company is down and out. Microsoft has way too much market /mind share to ever be truly counted out. Plus they have the money to buy themselves into new markets, e.g. the AT&T broadband settop box deal.

  61. wha?! by NightHwk · · Score: 1

    I thought ZD was the eternal Weyland Smithers to the Monty Burns that is Bill Gates.

    Sounds like a stir up in Spring^H^H^H^H^H^H Redmond.

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  62. The Way of Torvalds by Da+Penguin · · Score: 1
    The list is overall correct.
    Something that I found interesting was that Torvalds was hardware and Young was Operating Systems.

    What does this mean?
    Does it mean that Linux has moved from the geek community represented by Torvalds, to the corporate community represented by Young?
    Does it mean that Torvalds' working in Transmeta has undermined his position is Operating Systems and he is now an innovative hardware guy?

    It's right about Bill Gates though

  63. Re:Spoink! by Anomalous_Coward · · Score: 0

    The Preview LIED!!
    The Preview LIED!!
    Who stole my lessthans!!
    Bastards!

  64. Why Linus? by gengee · · Score: 4

    If I remember correctly - and I could be very wrong here - Linus was hired simply as an average-joe employee at Transmeta, was he not? If so, why then would Berst chose him as the man in hardware to watch?
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  65. Moderate this one up! by Chagrin · · Score: 1

    He's hit the nail on the head. Idiotic press just plain "does not matter".

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  66. In BusinessLand a businessman survives by Otis_INF · · Score: 1

    That's right. No matter how good you are in developing new technology with your own hands and brains, if you're not a businessman, you're doomed in the world of money and greed. Gates is a businessman, a damn good one too. Because he is good at it, he will survive in Businessland. I doubt if Torvalds will survive in BusinessLand. Perhaps in TechnologyLand, allthough if you check out who brought the most technology to Linux, it's not Thorvalds. Others did. The same goes for Transmeta. The patents they received last year (1999 ;)) weren't mentioning Thorvalds. He just works there.

    Even it comes from Berst and the words smell like poop, it's worth a thought IF what he says is true and why/why not.

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  67. Linux - is it for everyone? even a newbie like me? by Nethervoid · · Score: 0

    I will start this off saying that I'm a 'newbie' to the Linux OS, and I would like to find out about the OS, since I have heard and read a lot about it. I would like to know if it is somewhat like the Microsoft Windows 95/98 (remember, I AM a newbie :P ) OS's, and particularly if I can run an ADSL on the OS (or cable modem). Additionally, I would like to know what advantages Linux has over Windows NT, 98, etc. Thx to those who do bother to read this and sate a newbie's insatiable desire for knowledge :)

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  68. wrong! they are written by staffers! by gooberpea · · Score: 1

    Jesse "Those who can't, write ill-informed lame poorly-researched commentaries, but boy don't I have great hair" Berst has regular editorial staff to write his columns. Freelancers would do a much better job. None of them know a damn thing about technology and berst is the biggest ignoramus of all.