Spam has been solved for ages from what I can tell. But I use gmail.
LOL, if you used GMail when it was first introduced, you wouldn't believe how much spam was allowed in there. It was by far, the worst email service in terms of spam that I've ever used.
means never having to say that you're sorry. Kind of reminds me of the Mitt Romney book: "No apologies"
Defiant and arrogant to the end. This is what thermonuclear war looks like.
That's because Symbian is being discontinued. There will be no more new phones coming out with Symbian. All existing Symbian phones are scheduled to have only one or two more updates before EOL.
Then stop changing the hardware interfaces, i.e. stop all progress in hardware. It's not like we break the ABI on purpose. If USB 3.0, PCIx, other buses and interfaces, EFI,... etc come up, what are we supposed to do? Ignore them?
You should whine like a little bitch, like the poster you're replying to.
but it does pretty much everything you need in a smartphone
Blackberries also do pretty much everything you need in a smartphone, but they're tanking as well. This is more about the brand and company, as others have pointed out.
What do Slashdotters who have really tried WP think of it?
Until the Lumia 900, WP7 was running on substandard or run of the mill phones. They just didn't measure up to the top of the line phones from everyone else. And even with the Lumia 900, they're dumping them for $99 in the US, a premium phone sold at the discount rate for middle of the road phones. This doesn't make the brand look good.
As for the OS itself, it is definitely a different and fresh look and feel. The visual elements are appealing but there are some irritating things about it though. Syncing my google calendar to the phone is a bad experience. I can't manually direct the phone to update calendar data, and it usually misses some events. I don't rely on the calendar for complete information. Other small things like the system font being too small and not adjustable, are things that need to be fixed. Overall, not as polished or complete as the other OS's but definitely an improvement over the last MS phone OS, and amazingly; better than Nokia's Symbian OS. (which is is piece of shit, I must add)
It is the best looking phone OS, with some major probs, aside from the immaturity of the OS, you're always wondering if MS will pull some kind of trick to screw you over. You just can't shake the MS borg feeling. They don't help themselves when they treat the independent and small developers like second class citizens, you don't have as much access to the OS as larger companies do. Those are the main probs that I have with WP7. Other than that, it is a solid 4th place, behind RIM/Blackberry's new OS, which is really nice.
Not so. In regard to devices, Rhodes is a cross-platform app development environment entirely built around Ruby and Rails. In fact, as far as I know, it is the only cross-platform mobile development system that has gained any popularity.
Actually, the MOST popular cross platform mobile development tool is phonegap, or as it is now called, Apache Cordova. Rhomobile is not very good according to my friends who like Ruby. It uses an older version of ruby and has a lot of problems as well.
I'm not from Texas. I'm a highly educated Yankee and I voted for George W. Bush twice. Like I was really going to vote for Al Gore or John Kerry. It would be nice if the Democrats would put up a candidate that doesn't make my skin crawl.
LK
Too bad you didn't go to Iraq to die for YOUR President's fuck up, like so many poor bastards did. You sound like you're proud of GWBush, the draft dodger, who couldn't hold a candle to Gore or Kerry.
What??? Are you serious? It's the other way around. National makes the cheapest, crappiest, volume parts around. They have some high end parts, but nothing that compares with the high precision parts from other semiconductor companies. Especially compare National to Linear or Analog Devices for quality.
The last figures I heard were that 20-30% of the costs of a european mid range car are electronics, with a sharp upwards trend. American cars and cars for the american market are usually based on slightly simpler and older technology.
The current figures are the electronics in a car account for over 50% of the costs.
Yes, I can see that. What I don't understand is what you're doing on slashdot. This place is generally for comp sci types. Even though I'm an EE, I'm more on the digital side of things, with lots of software thrown in for good measure.
Not so fast, Intel is only working on the Atom port of MeeGo, not the ARM port. So unless your N900 runs on Atom chips, you don't gain anything from Intel's work.
That is Germany. Other major EU countries are further behind. Portugal and Greece, the most heavily regulated "old" EU countries according to the Economic Freedom Index are also the poorest and if they weren't regularly bailed out by the rest of EU would have dropped out of the ranks of developing countries by now. Portugal is very close to dropping from a developed to a developing nation in the HDI rankings. Their workers must be really happy with all that regulation that protects their jobs and pensions against that pesky reality, right?
Ooops, you just cited something from the Heritage foundation, a well known conservative, and totally slanted source of information. Just like Fox News. You should seek truth from sources that are reliable, accurate, fair, and unbiased.
Its user base will never hit the 1.5 million units Microsoft claims are already delivered on its current trend, so somebody's about to get stuck with some dead inventory.
Microsoft gave every one of it's employees a W7 phone, but refused to give any to mobile developers.
There's no reason to develop apps for a phone with few users and no long-term prospects either.
What's worse is that developers are treated as second class citizens who don't have as much access to the hardware as "1st tier partners" do. And Microsoft doesn't give out all of the tools for free to developers like all of the other platforms. Microsoft will give out crippleware versions of the phone development toolchain.
The integrated WP7 phone Facebook app has a little over 300,000 users now and less than 4,000 Facebook likes. It looks like buying Facebook likes has gone out of vogue with Microsoft's marketing department.
The MS marketing department has a hell of a tough job. The biggest draw for facebook likes is to run a giveaway with ipads.
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Spam has been solved for ages from what I can tell. But I use gmail.
LOL, if you used GMail when it was first introduced, you wouldn't believe how much spam was allowed in there. It was by far, the worst email service in terms of spam that I've ever used.
Nope, open symbian development is now actually financed by the European Commission, as a long term project.
Oh, ok. Is it going to end up in Nokia phones?
means never having to say that you're sorry. Kind of reminds me of the Mitt Romney book: "No apologies" Defiant and arrogant to the end. This is what thermonuclear war looks like.
Probably the last time that happens though.
That's because Symbian is being discontinued. There will be no more new phones coming out with Symbian. All existing Symbian phones are scheduled to have only one or two more updates before EOL.
Well, it is a microsoft app after all.
It's a spaceship. This is going to be BIG!!!
If Jobs did the presentation it would be amazing.
No, it would be "magical."
It may well be that Microsoft's alternative has features that make it superior
Usually, they introduce alternatives and features that aren't as good as prevailing technology.
Take that gizmodo!
how many fans will this thing have?
"A daredevil leapt from a balloon more than 18 miles above the Earth today"
That would make me shit my pants.
Then stop changing the hardware interfaces, i.e. stop all progress in hardware. It's not like we break the ABI on purpose. If USB 3.0, PCIx, other buses and interfaces, EFI, ... etc come up, what are we supposed to do? Ignore them?
You should whine like a little bitch, like the poster you're replying to.
All these changes... WAH WAH WAAAH
but it does pretty much everything you need in a smartphone
Blackberries also do pretty much everything you need in a smartphone, but they're tanking as well. This is more about the brand and company, as others have pointed out.
What do Slashdotters who have really tried WP think of it?
Until the Lumia 900, WP7 was running on substandard or run of the mill phones. They just didn't measure up to the top of the line phones from everyone else. And even with the Lumia 900, they're dumping them for $99 in the US, a premium phone sold at the discount rate for middle of the road phones. This doesn't make the brand look good.
As for the OS itself, it is definitely a different and fresh look and feel. The visual elements are appealing but there are some irritating things about it though. Syncing my google calendar to the phone is a bad experience. I can't manually direct the phone to update calendar data, and it usually misses some events. I don't rely on the calendar for complete information. Other small things like the system font being too small and not adjustable, are things that need to be fixed. Overall, not as polished or complete as the other OS's but definitely an improvement over the last MS phone OS, and amazingly; better than Nokia's Symbian OS. (which is is piece of shit, I must add)
It is the best looking phone OS, with some major probs, aside from the immaturity of the OS, you're always wondering if MS will pull some kind of trick to screw you over. You just can't shake the MS borg feeling. They don't help themselves when they treat the independent and small developers like second class citizens, you don't have as much access to the OS as larger companies do. Those are the main probs that I have with WP7. Other than that, it is a solid 4th place, behind RIM/Blackberry's new OS, which is really nice.
It screws the OEM partners, which Microsoft has a history of doing.
Not so. In regard to devices, Rhodes is a cross-platform app development environment entirely built around Ruby and Rails. In fact, as far as I know, it is the only cross-platform mobile development system that has gained any popularity.
Actually, the MOST popular cross platform mobile development tool is phonegap, or as it is now called, Apache Cordova. Rhomobile is not very good according to my friends who like Ruby. It uses an older version of ruby and has a lot of problems as well.
I'm not from Texas. I'm a highly educated Yankee and I voted for George W. Bush twice. Like I was really going to vote for Al Gore or John Kerry. It would be nice if the Democrats would put up a candidate that doesn't make my skin crawl.
LK
Too bad you didn't go to Iraq to die for YOUR President's fuck up, like so many poor bastards did. You sound like you're proud of GWBush, the draft dodger, who couldn't hold a candle to Gore or Kerry.
What??? Are you serious? It's the other way around. National makes the cheapest, crappiest, volume parts around. They have some high end parts, but nothing that compares with the high precision parts from other semiconductor companies. Especially compare National to Linear or Analog Devices for quality.
The last figures I heard were that 20-30% of the costs of a european mid range car are electronics, with a sharp upwards trend. American cars and cars for the american market are usually based on slightly simpler and older technology.
The current figures are the electronics in a car account for over 50% of the costs.
Can you tell I'm an analog guy? I sure hope so.
Yes, I can see that. What I don't understand is what you're doing on slashdot. This place is generally for comp sci types. Even though I'm an EE, I'm more on the digital side of things, with lots of software thrown in for good measure.
is the sound of thousands of laser printers firing up, and spitting out epic number of resumes
Not really. National has always been laying off workers periodically. This will just be another cycle of layoffs, as far as National is concerned.
Thank you Intel!!!!!
Not so fast, Intel is only working on the Atom port of MeeGo, not the ARM port. So unless your N900 runs on Atom chips, you don't gain anything from Intel's work.
That is Germany. Other major EU countries are further behind. Portugal and Greece, the most heavily regulated "old" EU countries according to the Economic Freedom Index are also the poorest and if they weren't regularly bailed out by the rest of EU would have dropped out of the ranks of developing countries by now. Portugal is very close to dropping from a developed to a developing nation in the HDI rankings. Their workers must be really happy with all that regulation that protects their jobs and pensions against that pesky reality, right?
Ooops, you just cited something from the Heritage foundation, a well known conservative, and totally slanted source of information. Just like Fox News. You should seek truth from sources that are reliable, accurate, fair, and unbiased.
are fucken stupid.
Microsoft gave every one of it's employees a W7 phone, but refused to give any to mobile developers.
What's worse is that developers are treated as second class citizens who don't have as much access to the hardware as "1st tier partners" do. And Microsoft doesn't give out all of the tools for free to developers like all of the other platforms. Microsoft will give out crippleware versions of the phone development toolchain.
The MS marketing department has a hell of a tough job. The biggest draw for facebook likes is to run a giveaway with ipads.
"The Empire Strikes Back"