The issue I personally take with this is not so much that they don't want to carry a government issued ID with them (assuming this is their issue - of course, I didn't RFTA). The issue I take is calling this type of thing "the mark of the beast" and refusing to participate. The reason I don't like that is because it's fucking stupid.
Also, many people don't know this, but India has never had a census. They don't even know how many citizens they have. The government is trying to modernize, provide services and generally increase the well-being of their populace. As someone that has actually, personally walked on the ground in India I can tell you... they need it. I applaud them for doing it and when people like these villagers try to block progress by extending meanings beyond already questionable text, it's irritating and unnecessary, in my strong opinion.
Most scholars who actually study this stuff interpret the mark of the beast (which Revelations says is a mark on your forehead and right hand) as being the numerical equivalent to the extremely f'd up Roman Emporer Nero. Though there is some discussion about possible alternatives (i.e. 616 instead of 666), most revolve around a code referring to Roman emperors. This would make sense because those Emperors had a bad habit of doing nasty things to Christians and... well, the Christians didn't like that very much.
In any event, none of this stuff should prevent the advance of progress in India.
Well, for clarity, I wasn't really commenting on what Knuth was going to say.. I have no idea. I kind of used that as a springboard to make a comment on the nature of GP's prediction.
In terms of the question at hand though, I don't know if we ever said anything about *easy* - we said assembly line and cheap (read: the infamous Indian "code factories"). And, unfortunately, I think this is the case for the majority of programming nowadays. This is due in part to MS, but also Sun and just raw processing power. Time to go architect-y, insanely advanced, embedded, or switch careers, IMO. In 5-10 years Java programmers will not be hot commodities. I could be wrong, but it's just the way I see things casting a cold analysis on the subject.
I appreciate the soothsaying, but I think I speak for most on/. when I say I hope you're wrong!! (even though you are right about (most) software development)
Hell, I don't know what this Sipdroid is at all. All I do is hit the "use wifi" checkbox on my vanilla G1 phone and it works fairly well (though I've had a few times I've had to turn the phone off and back on when moving repeatedly between cell and wifi zones).
Go G1 and hit the checkmark if you don't have the time to spend on customization. G1s should probably also be somewhat cheap now too, I would think. ...
Oh, I should note that I only use one wifi zone (my house - with authentication and encryption). I don't just hop around easily from Starbucks to the mall to wherever. I'd imagine that type of thing would involve config for each individual location. Assuming your campus has the same network name/config, I'd imagine a one time config would also do for you.
A fee should be waived for a military widow. Yeah, I'm sure you can counter with the "it's not in the contract nor in the law", but I believe there is an ethical responsibility here. It's $350 to a multi-bagillion dollar corporation. Send a death certificate and a military ID to prevent people from abusing the system, but waive the bloody fee, FFS.
The lack of corporate ethical standards promotes over-regulation and legal overreaching on the part of our legislatures. I contend that if one stands for less government interference, one should also stand for greater adhesion to common sense ethical standards.
If "low paid drones" don't feel empowered enough to use their head on a very obvious issue, that's a management problem. And the blame for that is correctly placed at the top of the organizational pyramid. I stand by my remarks
I made the unfortunate choice to be a residential property manager (in the USA). There are a number of provisions for protection of our troops for rentals. Military personnel can terminate leases when they're called up for duty, they are legally protected against being discriminated against for their military service, there are special provisions for eviction if someone is actively serving, and I believe there are also special protections on foreclosures and collections when they own their own home.
This is as it should be, in my strong opinion. Contracts are contracts, but the law supercedes contractual terms. Law exists to protect the rights of citizens, and military service personnel are certainly very worthy of this type of protection. If there is not legal protection for something like a cell phone service contract, there should be. And Verizon should be shamed for this asinine handling of the situation. Not only was he actively serving and quite busy... but he fucking died for Christ's sake. Assholes
Interesting point. Maps are always useful. Here's a great TED talk on maps which specifically delves into the question of the Russia / China border. I forget where it is in the vid, but the whole vid is interesting and it seems as though you might find it a good speech.
I'm not arguing the ethics of this action in my post, I'm arguing as to why these actions are economically unstable. You state that the USA bends laws to benefit local companies. I'd first ask specifically which laws you're referring to then ask if those legal modifications would have a wide-ranging distortion on the national economy.
With the exception of defense, agricultural interests and other smaller political honeypots, the answer to my questions is no, there are no economically distorting factors in the USA (in fact, a flexible economy free of political interests is one thing USA does probably better than any other economy, and why we grow faster than other developed economies). In contrast, China's entire economy is based on economic distortions (read: the pegged yuan and murky blending of political/business interests).
And what are these 300 million equipped with? Nothing we'd call armements or weapons here in The States. However, they can eventually build the industrial base to supply these guys, but don't forget Europe has a billion people, and so does India. If WW3 happens, that'll very likely be the way things shake out.
... then WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones... (apologies to Einstein)
Whether the motivation is espionage or "encouraging growth of domestic companies", the results are similar. China has no problems bending the laws to benefit their companies at the expense of foreign ones.
Ok... that's their right as a sovereign nation, but I'd again point out that seeing the Chinese economy as a panacea of growth and opportunity will turn sour at some point in the future as firms wake up and understand how a monolithic government like China views them and the concept of "rule of law". Top down economies and societies have a relatively short shelf life; the Soviet Union proved that. When you have a small group of elites deciding the go forward path of any large economy, the results will be unstable... as the mistakes of these elites compound expect China to cannibalize more foreign business interests. I have no idea when this will happen, but I'd bet a few bucks that it will happen eventually.
it's run by a militia just like the one that started this country.
I thoroughly and truly appreciate the contributions you and others make to the open source community, but you sitting on your fat ass writing code eating Cheetos is NOTHING like the men who marched hundreds of miles only to die in fields cold and lonely, for the independence of the United States. Get over yourself dude.
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Yeah, I used the terms in one of the threads below when talking about a unix admin that would not do 666 file permissions :-)
The issue I personally take with this is not so much that they don't want to carry a government issued ID with them (assuming this is their issue - of course, I didn't RFTA). The issue I take is calling this type of thing "the mark of the beast" and refusing to participate. The reason I don't like that is because it's fucking stupid.
... well, the Christians didn't like that very much.
Also, many people don't know this, but India has never had a census. They don't even know how many citizens they have. The government is trying to modernize, provide services and generally increase the well-being of their populace. As someone that has actually, personally walked on the ground in India I can tell you... they need it. I applaud them for doing it and when people like these villagers try to block progress by extending meanings beyond already questionable text, it's irritating and unnecessary, in my strong opinion.
Most scholars who actually study this stuff interpret the mark of the beast (which Revelations says is a mark on your forehead and right hand) as being the numerical equivalent to the extremely f'd up Roman Emporer Nero. Though there is some discussion about possible alternatives (i.e. 616 instead of 666), most revolve around a code referring to Roman emperors. This would make sense because those Emperors had a bad habit of doing nasty things to Christians and
In any event, none of this stuff should prevent the advance of progress in India.
Easy: chmod a+wr - the only chmod option for the Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobiac
Always good to see uneducated crazies are all over the world. I was worried that it was just the USA. Phew! /sarcasm
Well, for clarity, I wasn't really commenting on what Knuth was going to say.. I have no idea. I kind of used that as a springboard to make a comment on the nature of GP's prediction.
In terms of the question at hand though, I don't know if we ever said anything about *easy* - we said assembly line and cheap (read: the infamous Indian "code factories"). And, unfortunately, I think this is the case for the majority of programming nowadays. This is due in part to MS, but also Sun and just raw processing power. Time to go architect-y, insanely advanced, embedded, or switch careers, IMO. In 5-10 years Java programmers will not be hot commodities. I could be wrong, but it's just the way I see things casting a cold analysis on the subject.
I appreciate the soothsaying, but I think I speak for most on /. when I say I hope you're wrong!! (even though you are right about (most) software development)
lol - I love /. The only place where a dead babies joke can be regarded as funny! Awesome
lol - haven't seen that one before! I like it and will use it!!
Hell, I don't know what this Sipdroid is at all. All I do is hit the "use wifi" checkbox on my vanilla G1 phone and it works fairly well (though I've had a few times I've had to turn the phone off and back on when moving repeatedly between cell and wifi zones).
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Go G1 and hit the checkmark if you don't have the time to spend on customization. G1s should probably also be somewhat cheap now too, I would think.
Oh, I should note that I only use one wifi zone (my house - with authentication and encryption). I don't just hop around easily from Starbucks to the mall to wherever. I'd imagine that type of thing would involve config for each individual location. Assuming your campus has the same network name/config, I'd imagine a one time config would also do for you.
lol - nerd rage
A fee should be waived for a military widow. Yeah, I'm sure you can counter with the "it's not in the contract nor in the law", but I believe there is an ethical responsibility here. It's $350 to a multi-bagillion dollar corporation. Send a death certificate and a military ID to prevent people from abusing the system, but waive the bloody fee, FFS.
The lack of corporate ethical standards promotes over-regulation and legal overreaching on the part of our legislatures. I contend that if one stands for less government interference, one should also stand for greater adhesion to common sense ethical standards.
In a word: yes
If "low paid drones" don't feel empowered enough to use their head on a very obvious issue, that's a management problem. And the blame for that is correctly placed at the top of the organizational pyramid. I stand by my remarks
I made the unfortunate choice to be a residential property manager (in the USA). There are a number of provisions for protection of our troops for rentals. Military personnel can terminate leases when they're called up for duty, they are legally protected against being discriminated against for their military service, there are special provisions for eviction if someone is actively serving, and I believe there are also special protections on foreclosures and collections when they own their own home.
This is as it should be, in my strong opinion. Contracts are contracts, but the law supercedes contractual terms. Law exists to protect the rights of citizens, and military service personnel are certainly very worthy of this type of protection. If there is not legal protection for something like a cell phone service contract, there should be. And Verizon should be shamed for this asinine handling of the situation. Not only was he actively serving and quite busy... but he fucking died for Christ's sake. Assholes
Interesting point. Maps are always useful. Here's a great TED talk on maps which specifically delves into the question of the Russia / China border. I forget where it is in the vid, but the whole vid is interesting and it seems as though you might find it a good speech.
http://www.ted.com/talks/parag_khanna_maps_the_future_of_countries.html
I'm not arguing the ethics of this action in my post, I'm arguing as to why these actions are economically unstable. You state that the USA bends laws to benefit local companies. I'd first ask specifically which laws you're referring to then ask if those legal modifications would have a wide-ranging distortion on the national economy.
With the exception of defense, agricultural interests and other smaller political honeypots, the answer to my questions is no, there are no economically distorting factors in the USA (in fact, a flexible economy free of political interests is one thing USA does probably better than any other economy, and why we grow faster than other developed economies). In contrast, China's entire economy is based on economic distortions (read: the pegged yuan and murky blending of political/business interests).
Refute with specifics, please
And what are these 300 million equipped with? Nothing we'd call armements or weapons here in The States. However, they can eventually build the industrial base to supply these guys, but don't forget Europe has a billion people, and so does India. If WW3 happens, that'll very likely be the way things shake out.
... then WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones ... (apologies to Einstein)
Whether the motivation is espionage or "encouraging growth of domestic companies", the results are similar. China has no problems bending the laws to benefit their companies at the expense of foreign ones.
Ok... that's their right as a sovereign nation, but I'd again point out that seeing the Chinese economy as a panacea of growth and opportunity will turn sour at some point in the future as firms wake up and understand how a monolithic government like China views them and the concept of "rule of law". Top down economies and societies have a relatively short shelf life; the Soviet Union proved that. When you have a small group of elites deciding the go forward path of any large economy, the results will be unstable... as the mistakes of these elites compound expect China to cannibalize more foreign business interests. I have no idea when this will happen, but I'd bet a few bucks that it will happen eventually.
Agreed. New tag: SaudiArabiaOf
It's the new Library of Congress!!
fyi - links aren't bad - they're borderline SFW, depending on how strict your boss may be. Just Japanese softcore with clothes on
Yeah, I had to click because I was curious what cow pr0n might look like - and it looks good!
As an American, I unfortunately agree with this observation :P
I'd love to believe it's just a linguistic quirk, but... perhaps not
How is this an "arms race"? Analogy doesn't seem appropriate here. **Hype**
Absolutely, but properly capping it would've been best
it's run by a militia just like the one that started this country.
I thoroughly and truly appreciate the contributions you and others make to the open source community, but you sitting on your fat ass writing code eating Cheetos is NOTHING like the men who marched hundreds of miles only to die in fields cold and lonely, for the independence of the United States. Get over yourself dude.
Absolutely!!
a higher acceptance of damage/failure and a lower cost of life when sorting out what should be done
Some of us might take that as one of the very definitions of halfassery ;-)