The GPL doesn't forbid people from making money off of their software... let me repeat that... The GPL does not forbid people from making money off of their software.
The GPL basically says 2 things: First people are free to modify or redistribute however they wish (they can even charge money). Secondly the GPL program must come with (or at least have freely availiable) the source code to the program.
The Creative Commons liscense is trying to do the same thing with artwork that the GPL has done for software. The difference is there really isn't a 'source code' for art other than the artist's head. So the stipulation is keep it out of commerical products unless you have a specific licsense to do so. Which really is the same effect the GPL has on software.
Its not an either or question. God is all loving because he gives us the freedom of choice. He loves us so much that he lets us make up our own mind. We choose to be evil.
God is all powerful and doesn't tolerate evil and sends evil away from himself (ie hell).
The most common myth about Christianity is that somehow we can be good enough to please God and that God measures 'good' and 'bad' on human terms. God sees any offense as making the whole person 'bad' since he cannot tolerate evil. He loved of so much that he actually died and took on our punishment then he gave us the choice of wheither or not we would follow him or do it ourselves. Christianity is not about what you do, but who you know.
If you could point to proof that says "God Wrote THIS!" what we have today has been overly perverted by man so much that it is almost nothing like the origional[sp].
Then why do the Dead Sea Scrolls (which are close to 2,000 years older than any other old source) almost 100% accurate to what we have today?
Do you have any clue how Bibles are translated? They take the oldest manuscripts they can find and those come from before the Catholic church as it is today was ever formed. The Jews very closely guarded their written and oral traditions so its hard to say they changed stuff to suit them. If it was all about power and control of people wouldn't they just make it up?
The Catholics have more in their Bible than the protestants do. And you can still read any of the works that weren't put in the Bible and decide for yourself if they should be there or not. Its called the Apocrypha. So its hard to say that they changed things to suit them either.
I agree that some churches and church leaders are about money and power and that the Church (i.e. Catholic back when that's all there was) has twisted meanings to get their way and done all kinds of evil things. The great thing is that as a whole people are more educated and have more access to the actual sources than ever before and those who truely care can check and see wheither or not their leaders and telling them the truth.
Just my beef, 90% of christians are hippa-christans
100% of Christians are hypocrites. For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. But, ... while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. I agree with your idea though, if Christian's lived closer to how God asked us to do and really became "Little Christs" (which is what 'Christian' comes from in Greek) there would be huge differences. The trick is to be that way yourself and surround yourself with others that do.
For the record, I'm a Christian and I go to a church that meets in a plain building. They have built a gym and they have inner-city kids come play in it, they have a food pantry to feed the homeless, they openly ask in church for people to take food to elderly or to mow their grass or fix their roofs. There are good churches out there, and even if you can't find one that's perfect you can make a difference by doing what Christ has called us all to do.
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The last study I read showed the exact opposite. With Postfix being the fastest, sendmail close behind and qmail way slower than the other two.
Cause Postfix was built for people who do not understand how to properly configure a mailserver.
Feeling a bit up on yourself are you? I've used all three and as a busy sysadmin I have to say I don't have time to screw around with with Sendmail security patches and overly complex setup or qmail's complete lack of flexability. I have a fairly complex Postfix setup that stores my users in Mysql, does spam and virus checking and handles about 40 domains. I set it all up in about half a day... I don't even want to think about how long it would have taken to do it with sendmail.
I don't want to build an RPM every time I'm going to tweak an option in my PHP./configure call, for instance.
Slightly offtopic: but isn't this the fault of PHP that has to be recompiled everytime you want to change the most minute option in it?/hates PHP with a burning passion
Linux as a server environment is great; I run two fairly high-load Linux servers in a colocation center, and -- despite my periodic grumbling about RPM dependency nightmares -- I am more than happy with the performance I get out of them.
Answer: Apt for RPM, Up2date, Yum, or Mandrake Update (URPMI) if you're running Mandrake.
my parents aren't going to want to stay on Bugtraq to discover that their print daemon has a remote-root exploit they'll need to download a patch for and recompile. They're used to Windows Update, where it'll find the critical updates and download them, then prompt them to install. They don't have to worry about it.
Answer: Apt for RPM, Up2date, Yum, or Mandrake Update (URPMI) if you're running Mandrake. Most of this have nice little GUIs that prompt you, just like.... wait for it.... Windows Update!
Printers and digital cameras: I plugged mine in and it worked, Mandrake 9, Redhat 9 and Fedora Core 1. Didn't even need that driver CD. Gphoto2 has a huge library of digital cameras that work. Have you tried plugging it in and seeing what happened?
Sure not every piece of hardware is supported on Linux but how is that Linux's fault? The shear amount of hardware that is supported is mind-boggling since most is reverse engineered! I'm so sick of these 'Insightful' posts that keep spouting crap that was true 5 years ago. There are solutions to these problems, you just haven't tried them out. These types of uninformed posts do not help they just discourage people who probably would have been perfectly happy with it.
The key to linux on the desktop right now is a quick google search of hardware that works and support of manufacturers that support Linux. This guy in the article wouldn't have had to try 9 distros had he searched first. Had he searched first he probably would have found there are far more sound cards that work than those that don't.
I know this is off-topic, but this particular myth bugs me because people have died doing stupid things like trying to open their windows when a tornado came instead of taking proper shelter. (The idea being that the pressure won't affect the house if the windows are open and the air can escape)
Wow, how many times has this been explained before? Its a good thing that the GPL hasn't been challenged. No one in their right mind is going to challenge the GPL. Why? you ask. Because any company who does is screwed wheither they win or lose. In fact they are more screwed if they win! Here's how it works:
Say some company takes mplayer and makes a proprietary product out of it. The guys who make mplayer sue because the company has violated their license. Owner of the company is an idiot and the case actually goes to court.
Scenario 1: The Company loses. Probably all they have to do is open source their product, possibly costing themselves some money if they have to recall software on a shelf somewhere, etc.
Scenario 2: The GPL is declared invalid. The company wins.. but do they? Oops if the GPL is invalid then the code reverts back to the copyright owner (i.e. the mplayer guys) now the company has just admitted to blatent copyright infingement for which there are monetary damages + pulling their products, etc, etc. It gets better, if the GPL is invalid then its likely that all software licenses probably are by the same logic. In my opinion more so, as the GPL grants rights while most other licenses take them away! So now suddenly you have a situation where people can start challenging everyone's licenses. I can name a few large companies that probably would not be happy about that at all.
Scenario 3: Some off his rocker judge says the GPL effectively puts software in the public domain. Well the same could then be true about all software licenses as in scenario 2. That's all that the Company can really hope for, even though its immediatly up for debate if that company's own licenses are valid.
So as you can see it makes much more sense if a company simply complies. And as even reported by the FSF they do deal with GPL violations and so far they have 100% complience because its a no-win situation for a company that steals GPL code.
Wow I hope you're kidding. I don't feel superior to people that don't like Futurama, I was just giving the parent poster a bit of a hard time. Notice the smiley face, intended to convey humor... you've heard of humor, right?
I must say/. sure is becoming full of cynical tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists. No wonder they made the "Funny" mod not count anymore:)
The example was a church putting 'Jesus is the reason for the Season' on holiday light display put together by the city. The difference was that sponsors had to pay $15,000 to put their message up. Its unfair discrimination to deny a religious them when corporations are allowed to put up their messages.
I think that's something that get often overlooked. The government shouldn't be advertising or promoting a particular corporation or business anymore than it should be promoting a particular religion. Its discrimination to allow one and not the other.
As for an example I'll give you a very personal one that happened about 10 years ago when I was in HS. The school was allowing time for a student-led talent show. The entries were open, the rules said you could do anything you wanted as long as the student council approved it. There were student bands, a puppet show, lots of people singing, etc. Some friends of mine and I put together a religiously themed choriography. The student council approved our entry but then the sponsoring teacher said our group would need special approval from the principal. Which he denied on the basis that our entry promoted our religion.
Now there were other religiously themed things that happened in the talent show (Heck someone sang 'Amazing Grace'). It was later revealed that were singled out because we had earlier been trying to start a Bible club which was denied because it "wasn't school related" (nevermind businesses were sponsoring on campus clubs). I assume he thought we were trying to get back at him and bring what we wanted to say on campus anyway... who knows?
Sure we went and talked to some foundations that provide legal representation for sorts these things but the principal threatened to fire any teacher who talked about it. We were stonewalled in the end... it got so bad that a teacher who wanted to ask me about my religious affilations -- off campus mind you -- had to ask me not to say that she had ever mentioned it for fear of reprimand. I think a whole lot of people's freedom of speech and religion was trampled in this case.
Except when we want to share them over the Internet for free, make parodies or fan-films, use Tivo to skip commercials... etc. etc.
I apologize lu3hr if you don't do these things personally, but as I'm scanning the comments here I see that lots of slashdotters who seem to want it both ways. We can share or make it convenient for us to watch but as soon as someone wants to change parts of a movie because they find it morally objectionable we hear the battle cry of CENSORSHIP!!! Good grief people, they aren't taking away your boobies you see boobies all you want but some people don't like that and they have just as much of a fair use right to use a device to not see it as you have to use devices to skip commercials etc.
Would it be wrong then to skip past the naughty bits with your Tivo?
I can't go into Best Buy and get a Linux computer and printer for my Mom to simply use.
s/linux/Mac/ at Best Buy and you have the same problem. The only place you can get Macs (at least in my parts) other than the Mac store is at CompUSA and even their sales staff tends to steer you toward the Windoze machines.
Personally I think any software company worth anything should port to any platform they can. With cross-platform libraries this seems easier and easier to do yeah I agree with you that Corel is probably making a mistake by not, but who knows maybe they are doing Linux first and then will go to Mac as well.
I agree with the original poster as well though. Mac doesn't really have anywhere to go. While Linux is slowly being adopted by business and governments. That's where MS got their start if you remember, they came in, they were cheaper than Novell and so they got adopted and then business users started taking it home with them. The same is happening with Linux right now. In a few years you will see it at BestBuy (if BestBuy is smart)
I use Apt for RPM to keep my RedHat boxes up to date. As a busy Sysadmin/Programmer, its easier to just get the stuff updated or a new machine up than it is to compile everything.
I know how to compile everything but when the PHB is screaming at you to get stuff done it becomes impractical.
I don't know about being general knowledge. I do quite a bit of tech-support in my job. You wouldn't believe how hard it is to get customers to understand to get to our Web-mail program you have to type 'webmail.ourdomain.com'.
It simply doesn't occur to most people that you can have something other than 'www' there. And that's frightening because it means there are PHBs that will pony up the cash for this ridiculous licsense, making this firm seem crediable (and making matters worse).
surely this was something else. I seriously doubt they are going to make the little light flash up there for everyone to see. They want to keep this as quiet as possibly so no one knows about it. Then only the 'extremists' will complain.
Flashing the little light in front of everyone would defeat that idea./tin-foil hat
Heh, I've read all this stuff. I think so of those people have their tin-foil on too tight. The basic idea of peak oil is true, that at a certain point oil production will level off and then begin to fall making prices go up. Hard to argue with. We know we're using it up. That whole civilization ending argument is based on the idea that:
A: The economy is based on oil just like Ireland's was based on potatos before the potato famine. Which while paralells can be drawn we still have other choices, a worldwide system isn't so closed.
B: That oil production is going to drop straight down and overnight the price is going to raise to astronomical levels. This is complete BS, production will gradually go down and thus prices will gradually go up. As prices get too high people will start to look harder for alternatives. That's simple economics.
C: that we don't have any alternatives at all if we were to run out of oil. Uh... Coal? Not all that clean but we aren't running out of it. Coal can generate electricity and we can pretty much run anything on electricity rather than combustion. "But all the plastic we use is made from oil", 1: we can recycle what we have. 2: we can make synthetic plastic without oil. 3: Plastic is filling up our landfills anyway, using less probably would be good for us.
So to come back somewhat to the topic at hand: I think you still have more to fear from YellowStone than from peak oil. Of course, the real scary stuff is Easter Island. (glad I don't live on the east coast)
Opps, that didn't come out very clearly. For example I have about 200 files in my home directory at the moment (excluding 'hidden' files etc.) There is no way to select all the image files regardless of their actual image type. Say I do what you suggested above but I needed some gif files too. So it becomes $ scp *.jpg *.gif me@host:foo/
Oh but I also needed a.tif or a.xcf... It would be cool if I could do something like $ scp type:image/* me@host:foo/
Especially if I didn't know exactly what files I had. It can be done but it would make for a pretty long command:)
All systems have a learning curve, if they didn't I wouldn't have the same Windows user calling me everyday because she forgot how to get her email.
CLI = Dialog? it depends on the command, and no one said some commands couldn't be rewritten to be more userfriendly. Besides it wouldn't take long for people to know which commands aren't going to return anything if they fail and come to expect that. In fact some of us with a bit more experience like these commands as they can be chained together to do even more useful and exciting things.
Undo command: Actual commands to the OS can't be undone in any environment. Once you click 'OK' in some dialog (commanding the OS to do something) That's it, there is no resetting from that point. The CLI is closer to the OS in most cases. So the fact that it has no undo isn't really all that surprising. Many (usable) command interfaces have a command history however so undoing something usually isn't all that hard. Many commands such as cp and rm have confirmation dialogs turned on by default so you are less likely to make a mistake in the first place.
GUI is the superset of a CLI: Can you operate the machine using Ctrl+This and Ctrl+That without the GUI?
Direct Manipulation: What a pointless argument. The CLI has nothing to do with the applications you are using. I think most people talk about using a CLI to get around their systems. No one is advocating making graphical image applications, web browsers or games go away! As for your challenge such a thing does exist, its called ImageMagick (the convert command) you can manipulate pictures from the CLI and you can do a lot with it. Of course its a command designed to filter things and program with (ImageMagick itself is an API) just like lots of other commands on the system.
Control Panels vs. Config Files: I'll keep my config files thanks. Very few widely used config files aren't littered with all kinds of comments telling you exactly what to enter. And of course there is input validation. Many programs have a 'check the config file mode', and even if they don't its probably not going to run with an invalid config file. Editors such as VIM help here too. When the syntax is supposed to be highlighted a certain way and suddenly its not, there's probably a problem.
Pathnames: Tab-completion?
Your argument about single files goes away with tab-completion too. Really I wish there were better ways to select groups of files (by type maybe) in a CLI for batch transfers.
Personally I want to "use" my computer without pretty pictures getting in the way. Bill Joy probably made those statements because he isn't familiar with Linux. I've set down in front of Mac OSX and whenever I have I end up looking for the Terminal.app so I can use the comptuer.
Well first of all I doubt there are many judges that understand the amount of chaos it would cause, however even if their were it is a judges job to uphold the law not just do whatever they think is best. Such a ruling would automatically be appealed.
Interestingly enough if the judge were to rule the GPL invalid (wheither he ruled that the software would revert to copyright or to public-domain) you would see a strange alliance between proprietary and open source software makers. Any ruling that makes a software license void could probably be used to make others void to. The likes of MS certainly does not want that.
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The GPL doesn't forbid people from making money off of their software... let me repeat that ... The GPL does not forbid people from making money off of their software.
The GPL basically says 2 things: First people are free to modify or redistribute however they wish (they can even charge money). Secondly the GPL program must come with (or at least have freely availiable) the source code to the program.
The Creative Commons liscense is trying to do the same thing with artwork that the GPL has done for software. The difference is there really isn't a 'source code' for art other than the artist's head. So the stipulation is keep it out of commerical products unless you have a specific licsense to do so. Which really is the same effect the GPL has on software.
But take Christianity, or Islam and you are asking for problems.
Its the fundies that have made it a problem by trying to claim that the Bible is a science book which it isn't, doesn't claim to be and never will be.
Stupid fundies.
Its not an either or question. God is all loving because he gives us the freedom of choice. He loves us so much that he lets us make up our own mind. We choose to be evil.
God is all powerful and doesn't tolerate evil and sends evil away from himself (ie hell).
The most common myth about Christianity is that somehow we can be good enough to please God and that God measures 'good' and 'bad' on human terms. God sees any offense as making the whole person 'bad' since he cannot tolerate evil. He loved of so much that he actually died and took on our punishment then he gave us the choice of wheither or not we would follow him or do it ourselves. Christianity is not about what you do, but who you know.
If you could point to proof that says "God Wrote THIS!" what we have today has been overly perverted by man so much that it is almost nothing like the origional[sp].
... while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. I agree with your idea though, if Christian's lived closer to how God asked us to do and really became "Little Christs" (which is what 'Christian' comes from in Greek) there would be huge differences. The trick is to be that way yourself and surround yourself with others that do.
Then why do the Dead Sea Scrolls (which are close to 2,000 years older than any other old source) almost 100% accurate to what we have today?
Do you have any clue how Bibles are translated? They take the oldest manuscripts they can find and those come from before the Catholic church as it is today was ever formed. The Jews very closely guarded their written and oral traditions so its hard to say they changed stuff to suit them. If it was all about power and control of people wouldn't they just make it up?
The Catholics have more in their Bible than the protestants do. And you can still read any of the works that weren't put in the Bible and decide for yourself if they should be there or not. Its called the Apocrypha. So its hard to say that they changed things to suit them either.
I agree that some churches and church leaders are about money and power and that the Church (i.e. Catholic back when that's all there was) has twisted meanings to get their way and done all kinds of evil things. The great thing is that as a whole people are more educated and have more access to the actual sources than ever before and those who truely care can check and see wheither or not their leaders and telling them the truth.
Just my beef, 90% of christians are hippa-christans
100% of Christians are hypocrites. For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. But,
For the record, I'm a Christian and I go to a church that meets in a plain building. They have built a gym and they have inner-city kids come play in it, they have a food pantry to feed the homeless, they openly ask in church for people to take food to elderly or to mow their grass or fix their roofs. There are good churches out there, and even if you can't find one that's perfect you can make a difference by doing what Christ has called us all to do.
The last study I read showed the exact opposite. With Postfix being the fastest, sendmail close behind and qmail way slower than the other two.
... I don't even want to think about how long it would have taken to do it with sendmail.
Cause Postfix was built for people who do not understand how to properly configure a mailserver.
Feeling a bit up on yourself are you? I've used all three and as a busy sysadmin I have to say I don't have time to screw around with with Sendmail security patches and overly complex setup or qmail's complete lack of flexability. I have a fairly complex Postfix setup that stores my users in Mysql, does spam and virus checking and handles about 40 domains. I set it all up in about half a day
I don't want to build an RPM every time I'm going to tweak an option in my PHP ./configure call, for instance.
/hates PHP with a burning passion
Slightly offtopic: but isn't this the fault of PHP that has to be recompiled everytime you want to change the most minute option in it?
Good grief. Learn the facts man:
.... wait for it .... Windows Update!
Linux as a server environment is great; I run two fairly high-load Linux servers in a colocation center, and -- despite my periodic grumbling about RPM dependency nightmares -- I am more than happy with the performance I get out of them.
Answer: Apt for RPM, Up2date, Yum, or Mandrake Update (URPMI) if you're running Mandrake.
my parents aren't going to want to stay on Bugtraq to discover that their print daemon has a remote-root exploit they'll need to download a patch for and recompile. They're used to Windows Update, where it'll find the critical updates and download them, then prompt them to install. They don't have to worry about it.
Answer: Apt for RPM, Up2date, Yum, or Mandrake Update (URPMI) if you're running Mandrake. Most of this have nice little GUIs that prompt you, just like
Printers and digital cameras: I plugged mine in and it worked, Mandrake 9, Redhat 9 and Fedora Core 1. Didn't even need that driver CD. Gphoto2 has a huge library of digital cameras that work. Have you tried plugging it in and seeing what happened?
Sure not every piece of hardware is supported on Linux but how is that Linux's fault? The shear amount of hardware that is supported is mind-boggling since most is reverse engineered! I'm so sick of these 'Insightful' posts that keep spouting crap that was true 5 years ago. There are solutions to these problems, you just haven't tried them out. These types of uninformed posts do not help they just discourage people who probably would have been perfectly happy with it.
The key to linux on the desktop right now is a quick google search of hardware that works and support of manufacturers that support Linux. This guy in the article wouldn't have had to try 9 distros had he searched first. Had he searched first he probably would have found there are far more sound cards that work than those that don't.
Ummm ... wrong
I know this is off-topic, but this particular myth bugs me because people have died doing stupid things like trying to open their windows when a tornado came instead of taking proper shelter. (The idea being that the pressure won't affect the house if the windows are open and the air can escape)
Wow, how many times has this been explained before? Its a good thing that the GPL hasn't been challenged. No one in their right mind is going to challenge the GPL. Why? you ask. Because any company who does is screwed wheither they win or lose. In fact they are more screwed if they win! Here's how it works:
.. but do they? Oops if the GPL is invalid then the code reverts back to the copyright owner (i.e. the mplayer guys) now the company has just admitted to blatent copyright infingement for which there are monetary damages + pulling their products, etc, etc. It gets better, if the GPL is invalid then its likely that all software licenses probably are by the same logic. In my opinion more so, as the GPL grants rights while most other licenses take them away! So now suddenly you have a situation where people can start challenging everyone's licenses. I can name a few large companies that probably would not be happy about that at all.
Say some company takes mplayer and makes a proprietary product out of it. The guys who make mplayer sue because the company has violated their license. Owner of the company is an idiot and the case actually goes to court.
Scenario 1: The Company loses. Probably all they have to do is open source their product, possibly costing themselves some money if they have to recall software on a shelf somewhere, etc.
Scenario 2: The GPL is declared invalid. The company wins
Scenario 3: Some off his rocker judge says the GPL effectively puts software in the public domain. Well the same could then be true about all software licenses as in scenario 2. That's all that the Company can really hope for, even though its immediatly up for debate if that company's own licenses are valid.
So as you can see it makes much more sense if a company simply complies. And as even reported by the FSF they do deal with GPL violations and so far they have 100% complience because its a no-win situation for a company that steals GPL code.
Wow I hope you're kidding. I don't feel superior to people that don't like Futurama, I was just giving the parent poster a bit of a hard time. Notice the smiley face, intended to convey humor ... you've heard of humor, right?
/. sure is becoming full of cynical tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists. No wonder they made the "Funny" mod not count anymore :)
I must say
If you don't like Futurama you probably didn't get the jokes. :)
The example was a church putting 'Jesus is the reason for the Season' on holiday light display put together by the city. The difference was that sponsors had to pay $15,000 to put their message up. Its unfair discrimination to deny a religious them when corporations are allowed to put up their messages.
... who knows?
... it got so bad that a teacher who wanted to ask me about my religious affilations -- off campus mind you -- had to ask me not to say that she had ever mentioned it for fear of reprimand. I think a whole lot of people's freedom of speech and religion was trampled in this case.
I think that's something that get often overlooked. The government shouldn't be advertising or promoting a particular corporation or business anymore than it should be promoting a particular religion. Its discrimination to allow one and not the other.
As for an example I'll give you a very personal one that happened about 10 years ago when I was in HS. The school was allowing time for a student-led talent show. The entries were open, the rules said you could do anything you wanted as long as the student council approved it. There were student bands, a puppet show, lots of people singing, etc. Some friends of mine and I put together a religiously themed choriography. The student council approved our entry but then the sponsoring teacher said our group would need special approval from the principal. Which he denied on the basis that our entry promoted our religion.
Now there were other religiously themed things that happened in the talent show (Heck someone sang 'Amazing Grace'). It was later revealed that were singled out because we had earlier been trying to start a Bible club which was denied because it "wasn't school related" (nevermind businesses were sponsoring on campus clubs). I assume he thought we were trying to get back at him and bring what we wanted to say on campus anyway
Sure we went and talked to some foundations that provide legal representation for sorts these things but the principal threatened to fire any teacher who talked about it. We were stonewalled in the end
Creators have moral rights on their works.
... etc. etc.
Except when we want to share them over the Internet for free, make parodies or fan-films, use Tivo to skip commercials
I apologize lu3hr if you don't do these things personally, but as I'm scanning the comments here I see that lots of slashdotters who seem to want it both ways. We can share or make it convenient for us to watch but as soon as someone wants to change parts of a movie because they find it morally objectionable we hear the battle cry of CENSORSHIP!!! Good grief people, they aren't taking away your boobies you see boobies all you want but some people don't like that and they have just as much of a fair use right to use a device to not see it as you have to use devices to skip commercials etc.
Would it be wrong then to skip past the naughty bits with your Tivo?
I think it has more to do with the Flash plugin for linux that hasn't been updated in years than it does with Firefox itself.
There are some CMYK tools in Gimp 2 (even in the version of 1.3 I have)
Probably not everything you need but Gimp 2 is leaps and bounds beyond the 1.2 series.
I can't go into Best Buy and get a Linux computer and printer for my Mom to simply use.
s/linux/Mac/ at Best Buy and you have the same problem. The only place you can get Macs (at least in my parts) other than the Mac store is at CompUSA and even their sales staff tends to steer you toward the Windoze machines.
Personally I think any software company worth anything should port to any platform they can. With cross-platform libraries this seems easier and easier to do yeah I agree with you that Corel is probably making a mistake by not, but who knows maybe they are doing Linux first and then will go to Mac as well.
I agree with the original poster as well though. Mac doesn't really have anywhere to go. While Linux is slowly being adopted by business and governments. That's where MS got their start if you remember, they came in, they were cheaper than Novell and so they got adopted and then business users started taking it home with them. The same is happening with Linux right now. In a few years you will see it at BestBuy (if BestBuy is smart)
I use Apt for RPM to keep my RedHat boxes up to date. As a busy Sysadmin/Programmer, its easier to just get the stuff updated or a new machine up than it is to compile everything.
I know how to compile everything but when the PHB is screaming at you to get stuff done it becomes impractical.
Oh apt for RPM can be found at Freshrpms
I don't know about being general knowledge. I do quite a bit of tech-support in my job. You wouldn't believe how hard it is to get customers to understand to get to our Web-mail program you have to type 'webmail.ourdomain.com'.
It simply doesn't occur to most people that you can have something other than 'www' there. And that's frightening because it means there are PHBs that will pony up the cash for this ridiculous licsense, making this firm seem crediable (and making matters worse).
If an hour later you leave the parking lot but the six pack with the RFID doesn't
:)
Must have been pretty drunk to drink the RFID tag too.
surely this was something else. I seriously doubt they are going to make the little light flash up there for everyone to see. They want to keep this as quiet as possibly so no one knows about it. Then only the 'extremists' will complain.
/tin-foil hat
Flashing the little light in front of everyone would defeat that idea.
At risk of drifting completely offtopic
... Coal? Not all that clean but we aren't running out of it. Coal can generate electricity and we can pretty much run anything on electricity rather than combustion. "But all the plastic we use is made from oil", 1: we can recycle what we have. 2: we can make synthetic plastic without oil. 3: Plastic is filling up our landfills anyway, using less probably would be good for us.
Heh, I've read all this stuff. I think so of those people have their tin-foil on too tight. The basic idea of peak oil is true, that at a certain point oil production will level off and then begin to fall making prices go up. Hard to argue with. We know we're using it up. That whole civilization ending argument is based on the idea that:
A: The economy is based on oil just like Ireland's was based on potatos before the potato famine. Which while paralells can be drawn we still have other choices, a worldwide system isn't so closed.
B: That oil production is going to drop straight down and overnight the price is going to raise to astronomical levels. This is complete BS, production will gradually go down and thus prices will gradually go up. As prices get too high people will start to look harder for alternatives. That's simple economics.
C: that we don't have any alternatives at all if we were to run out of oil. Uh
So to come back somewhat to the topic at hand: I think you still have more to fear from YellowStone than from peak oil. Of course, the real scary stuff is Easter Island. (glad I don't live on the east coast)
Opps, that didn't come out very clearly. For example I have about 200 files in my home directory at the moment (excluding 'hidden' files etc.) There is no way to select all the image files regardless of their actual image type. Say I do what you suggested above but I needed some gif files too. So it becomes
.tif or a .xcf ... It would be cool if I could do something like
:)
$ scp *.jpg *.gif me@host:foo/
Oh but I also needed a
$ scp type:image/* me@host:foo/
Especially if I didn't know exactly what files I had. It can be done but it would make for a pretty long command
Nice troll. Looks like the mods went for it too.
All systems have a learning curve, if they didn't I wouldn't have the same Windows user calling me everyday because she forgot how to get her email.
CLI = Dialog? it depends on the command, and no one said some commands couldn't be rewritten to be more userfriendly. Besides it wouldn't take long for people to know which commands aren't going to return anything if they fail and come to expect that. In fact some of us with a bit more experience like these commands as they can be chained together to do even more useful and exciting things.
Undo command: Actual commands to the OS can't be undone in any environment. Once you click 'OK' in some dialog (commanding the OS to do something) That's it, there is no resetting from that point. The CLI is closer to the OS in most cases. So the fact that it has no undo isn't really all that surprising. Many (usable) command interfaces have a command history however so undoing something usually isn't all that hard. Many commands such as cp and rm have confirmation dialogs turned on by default so you are less likely to make a mistake in the first place.
GUI is the superset of a CLI: Can you operate the machine using Ctrl+This and Ctrl+That without the GUI?
Direct Manipulation: What a pointless argument. The CLI has nothing to do with the applications you are using. I think most people talk about using a CLI to get around their systems. No one is advocating making graphical image applications, web browsers or games go away! As for your challenge such a thing does exist, its called ImageMagick (the convert command) you can manipulate pictures from the CLI and you can do a lot with it. Of course its a command designed to filter things and program with (ImageMagick itself is an API) just like lots of other commands on the system.
Control Panels vs. Config Files: I'll keep my config files thanks. Very few widely used config files aren't littered with all kinds of comments telling you exactly what to enter. And of course there is input validation. Many programs have a 'check the config file mode', and even if they don't its probably not going to run with an invalid config file. Editors such as VIM help here too. When the syntax is supposed to be highlighted a certain way and suddenly its not, there's probably a problem.
Pathnames: Tab-completion?
Your argument about single files goes away with tab-completion too. Really I wish there were better ways to select groups of files (by type maybe) in a CLI for batch transfers.
Personally I want to "use" my computer without pretty pictures getting in the way. Bill Joy probably made those statements because he isn't familiar with Linux. I've set down in front of Mac OSX and whenever I have I end up looking for the Terminal.app so I can use the comptuer.
[tin foil hat]
Yeah and next they're going to put in a battery backup so that even when you unplug it just keeps playing forever.
And then they'll make them so that it contains nano-bots that repair everything if you try to physically break the hardware.
[/tin foil hat]
Well first of all I doubt there are many judges that understand the amount of chaos it would cause, however even if their were it is a judges job to uphold the law not just do whatever they think is best. Such a ruling would automatically be appealed.
Interestingly enough if the judge were to rule the GPL invalid (wheither he ruled that the software would revert to copyright or to public-domain) you would see a strange alliance between proprietary and open source software makers. Any ruling that makes a software license void could probably be used to make others void to. The likes of MS certainly does not want that.