P2P doesn't actually solve a problem for developing worlds either. If an end user has a small pipe they are just going to be spinning their wheels trying to participate in the cloud vs. actually downloading the bits.
Where P2P actually starts helping is if (1) you have a large pipe at the end point and (2) there is either a choke point between you and your download or at the download it self. If you don't have this *specific* situation P2P is at best no faster or slower than a normal download. At worst, it's dramatically slower.
Ok you are so far wrong in your assumptions, assertions and comments it's a bit saddening. Let me set the record straight on where your at right now.
The primary purpose of peer to peer systems are to either avoid censorship or provide lots of cheap/free bandwidth.
the primary purposes _now_ are to avoid censorship and to provide lots of cheap/free bandwidth.
Ok, your partially right here, but in reality P2P in all it's forms is *not* to avoid censorship at all, they are there to provide a mirroring infrastructure where non can or does exist. And BitTorrent is in fact a rather bad mirroring infrastructure at that. Don't try to apply political motives or any other traits to P2P, it's a technical solution to a technical problem (mind you most of the OSS world, and in most everything doesn't actually have this problem and there are a number of papers, reports and findings that are clearly showing the BitTorrent and their ilk do not even remotely compare to the capacity of an even small mirroring system)
the last major upgrade of debian REDLINED the world's internet backbone infrastructure for a WEEK.
with the total linux usage only being - what... 1% of the world's desktop systems, and debian being a small fraction of that, the debian mirror system are ALREADY creaking under the load.
Redlined? Cracking? Debian? I'm sorry to burst your bubble but by the last numbers I have, when Debian releases the internet does not strain under the load. When Fedora releases (currently the largest / most popular Linux distribution at release time) the internet does not load, and it's not uncommon for the Fedora mirroring system to move 100's if not thousands Terabytes in a week. The internet doesn't redline or strain under this load, in reality most people don't even know it's going on. This isn't 1998 anymore, and there are a lot of mirrors out there with 100mbps, 1000mbps and even a few now with 10gbps uplinks to the internet.
Neither of these really apply to source code management.
why not?
Hosting is easily sponsored and the files aren't very big anyway. Few projects will face censorship anywhere other than the most regressive regimes (ie, China or the US).
i don't _want_ "sponsorship". i don't _want_ my pet project hosted by a large corporation. i want it completely independent.
This is quite the worthy goal, and I applaud you for it.
i want my web site content hosted and automatically mirrored across the world, along with its bugs database and its wiki all linked together.
Here's where your argument falls down though. If you use a traditional mirroring system, yes, your relying on the kindness and sponsorship of others to deal with the distribution of your project.
How is this any different than P2P? Your now relying on the sheer *kindness* (which in a P2P landscape is not to the pullers advantage) to continue to participate in the P2P cloud. While they are in they are sponsoring you and you are dependent on them. The only way to be truly independent is to run your own mirror on your own system and buy your own bandwidth.
i want people in the emerging markets and the third world to be able to have exactly the same kind of luxury that we do - and they DO NOT have "continuous access to the web site or access to the lovely sponsored hosting".
P2P still doesn't really solve that problem. The problem your relating is one of end user's bandwidth vs. bandwidth of a mirror or P2P cloud. If an end user has a small pipe participating in P2P is actually rather detrimental to them as a lot of their traffic will be eaten up trying to participate vs. actually downloading. Slow pipes are also bad for the cloud in general.
It boggles my mind how persistent RIAA & the MPAA are in trying to get this put into law. I understand how much of an advantage it would give them but grief there is this thing called 'fair use'. I explained the broadcast flag to my mom once, what it would mean and it's implications. She looked up at me, and said 'thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard, you mean to tell me that they would be able to prevent me from recording stuff that I'm unable to watch at the time they show it at?!' and promptly wrote her representatives lambasting the thing. It's a pity no one will introduce a law to outright ban the idea of the broadcast flag.
Ok, here's some common sense that maybe even the courts will have to listen to. When you buy something, a physical product, like an XBox it is now your property. There may be patents covering the devices inside the device, there may be copyrights, trademarks, etc. but at the end of the day it's my hunk of atoms NOT the original companies. No amount of shrink wrap licensing binds me to do what I want with it. However if I do something thats not within what the manufacturer wants me to be doing with it they are welcome to cancel my warranty, and refuse to take liability for say me running 6 million volts of electricity through a paperclip, but thats just my perogative, they can't stop me from doing that. So thats where it all stands in terms of that.
the 9th circuit court in the case has ruled differently than what the article header here implies. Go, read it.
... trying to secure wifi isn't going to help anybody at this point. WEP is more a deterent than a security measure and in the end thats all it has become. WPA was a wacky bolt-on later and it's supported in all configurations or in every software setting.
There seems to be a lot of effort being put forth to secure wifi, and the question I have is why bother? Why not treat wifi the same as you treat the internet? Firewall all access to it, and if you want access to the internal network you have to vpn into it. Run your programs you care about with encryption turned on (use imap/s instead of imap, pop/s instead of pop, smtp/s instead of smtp).
All the money being spent trying to come up with a hardware solution is just going to cause all wifi hardware to be incompatible, more burdonsome to use, and a lot more expensive.
I can dig up a copy of the XBox licensing agreement that came in the box, and in fact I've taught several classes around this licensing agreement. If you read it carefully (well at least the ones I have) they all state you don't own the xbox, you merely have a license to use the xbox, and that the xbox is still technically the property of Microsoft.
As for the software, your right I do own a license to the data on it, and I own the media and the paper bits, but beyond that I'm SOL I don't own it.
Posession might have been 9/10s of the law. It's not anymore.
Honestly, if I remember back to all those wonderful classes on what this country was founded on it reads (paraphrasing) "For the people, by the people".
Correct me if I'm wrong but what PA was trying to do was "For the people, by the people" and what Verizon is trying to do is "For Verizon's pocket book, by the money of the people".
Recently a lot of these kinds of laws have really irritated me by the fact that the laws as they were ogriginally intended gave consumers, the people, the ability to actually do innovative and creative things with what they bought. Now adays there is in theory very little that I "own". My XBox is technically on lease, my software almost all of it on "lease" (well the software that isn't linux anyway thank goodness), etc. At the end of the day I can look around at my apartment and wonder what I REALLY own.
The laws are terribly tipped in the wrong direction, this is another example of that un-balance.
Though this might not be EXACTLY what you are looking for your router pc might want to run a NoCat server, at least force people to authenticate via a "yes I won't do stupid stuff" model and give them the ability to even possibly paypal you the money as well as a tip jar somewhere for it?
Just an idea, and NoCat really isn't all that hard to setup and it can "control" as many waps as you have on the network (mind you it will control EVERYTHING on the network not just the waps) worth a look as several companies and government entities have/are setting up nocat control boxes in the town I live in to control wifi access either so they get paid or so you are forced to accept a certain TOS.
SCO: You are infringing on our IP give us money NOW!!! IBM:::thwaks them upside the head:: No. SCO: OWWW!!!! You hurt us! Can you buy us out now?::tear at the corner of their eye::
Ok I can understand Microsofts want to have people use THEIR client, but I'm sorry some of us don't use windows and need to talk to people who are on windows based systems and happen to use MSN. I'm sure that there will a patch around this almost immediatley, but still:-\ quite annoying.
Microsoft: instead of making your protocol HARDER, offer the features people obviously want: a cross protocol client, if you make it slick, easy, free, etc people won't use trillian, they will use yours.... especially if you bundle it. Just don't shut down your network to the "outsiders"
Just so it's on record, there are some rather serious gravitational problems involved as well and the fact that the shuttle didn't have nearly enough fuel to take care of it (the ISS is in a MUCH higher orbit and such) getting things worked out would have been incredibly expensive, and would have to assume that shuttle was refuelable in flight (I don't believe they are) thus impossible.
Well NASA at the time didn't think the problem was all that big of a deal to send up a rescue crew, so they didn't.
And before people start yammering about sending them to the ISS, someone give them a physics book, they couldn't have.
I hope that NASA learns something (when something falls off a vessle it usually isn't a good sign!!!) and to be a bit more catious in the future. BUT I think they should get right back up on the horse so to speak and keep going. To quote "Enterprise" (and one of their better episodes recently) "If we are ever going to explore deep space we are going to need to take a few risks" and thats the truth of the matter.
-- It's harder to fly into the sun than out of the galaxy, go figure --
PCE was demoing the red model at WinHEC (please don't flame me for having attended this conference, there really was some good information there) and I must say... it.. was... interesting. A lot of the crossbars and positions are customizable, there at least seemed to be some though put into cable management, however it looked suspiciously like the black cable conduits you can buy at home depot. The cables ran along the "spine" and everything gets mounted on a set of rolling wheels.
I asked the rep 2 questions, 1) how do I get this thing to a lan party (or at least my computer) since things are integrated the way they are and 2) what makes his company better than the others who have tried this "revolutionary" desktop
1) was answered with the wheels, though I would love to see someone try and get that into an elevator and up to say the 3rd floor and such
2) wasn't answered very well, basically ran along the lines of their "customizability" and the fact that they aren't the other companies. Though I have to admit it LOOKED cool, it felt... weird sitting in it.. I'm sure it would have been better with several flat panel monitors lined up in front of you... but honestly I don't think this is going to work perfectly.
VW Bugs happen to be just the right size to compare to a meteor! That and it's probably excatly what a VW would do if it was dropped on earth like that....
Frank the Astronomer: Dude we just dropped th VW from space to see what it would do Bob his accomplace: It looks exactly like a meteor!
Well it's been a "hot" topic with Microsoft for a while now, it's interesting to see that they are actually going to go ahead with this thing (I mean this isn't the first time this type of security was built into an os/operating system, and you don't see any more of THAT stuff still around do you? What failed once is doomed to fail again)
Though windows having this isn't the concern I would raise. So fine Windows now has another stike against it, and my ancient copy of Civilization(first version) no longer works because it's not signed by Microsoft (but the emulation layer is there, and it works wonderfully!) and I must sell my soul to make any useful program work, etc.
What CONCERNS me is when this stuff starts making it into hardware. This is when MS could start making a power grab at being even more monopolistic than before. Right now they just make HUGE suggestions on what hardware should be around in say 5 years. If the pall stuff was in hardware they could effectivley squeeze out every that wasn't MS or a current uptodate OS[read: that they have made you pay for it in the last 10 minutes] , etc. It would be a sad day when it gets to that point, because it's not even the government who has taken our liberty away..... it's a monopolistic company, and our only hope [obi-won?] is that Apple doesn't fall prey to that mess, and we can still run linux on mac hardware.
Is it just me, or has the US government gone nuts about trying to regulate things they don't really understand, particularly the technology around us?
I mean how many of them truely understand the far reaching implications of this? And considering that the rest of the world will not be held against this horrific piece of legislation they would be doing more harm to Americans than good. I mean a nat/vpn/tunnel/network mucker/security software/firewall is now illegal to run in the US, which makes all the computers MORE vulnerable to viruses and attacks, and would do nothing but line the pockets of lawyers (and possible the telco), along with giving the world access to whatever we are doing. I mean the USPO doesn't look at my mail when I send it, so why should someone see the e-mail I send?
I for one would start looking for a job in Canada if any more of this ludicrus legislation gets passed, I mean... at least they don't SEEM to be quite as stupid. That and the fact if this was passed it would take quite a while to re-work all the setups I have:-\
The Supremes will have no problem with this, as it is NOT free speech. Freedom of speech means you can say anything you want (within reason) it does NOT mean that if I don't want to listen to it you have to force it upon me by calling me at the most inconvient time of the day while I'm eating my dinner with my family, which for the record is about the only time most of us SEE our families (if then), it's more these companies butting into the few moments we have to be a family together and they are stealing THAT from us.
It's not freedom of speech when you force it down my throat when I don't want to hear it.
To be honest, I have to agree with this. Support for blocking port 25 on a wide scale, will in the end, kill e-mail. The reason I say this boils down to the number of people who run different e-mail servers than their ISP. I for one own my own domains, and I pay for the ability to run my own e-mail server somewhere which I trust to be reliable, stable, and more or less in my control (either through my own hands, or by the power of my wallet - I don't like the service I move it). Now if AOL, or anyone else blocks port 25 this renders a lot of useful software, and a lot of SANE practices completely and utterly useless.
I do however offer a suggestion I've seen that might actually work out, however according to the person who started this thread it might not directly for him:
idea 1) force all smtp servers (recieving) to query back to the original sender of the e-mail to confirm that the user exsists on their system
note: this isn't perfect it might work, there is a good chance it doesn't though
idea 2) reject e-mail who's sender 1) doesn't match the domain it's coming from or 2) doesn't have a fully qualified domain
THIS should stop a lot of spam, as a lot of it will fail on one or both of those. I have been running into this more and more recently, and am going to install filters and such that match this
idea 3) arm everyone with shotguns, have them spy on their neighbours. If they find that their neighbours are spammers, they must shoot the kneecaps off their neighbours and bring them before the world for trial. if they are found guilty..... may the world have mercy on them. If not they get free knee surgery to have the poor things replaced and all.
this would work maybe... except that most e-mail comes from Asia, and their neighbours probably do it too... ohhh well
but seriously idea 2 really would stop a lot of the spam, look through the headers and you will see what I mean.
Also isps really need to take action against spammers, this is one of the reasons it persists. Talk to you ISP, tell them what you think.
The biggest problem I can see in the whole thing is egress. Most current building codes require at least two direct means of leaving a bedroom, and some require it for other rooms as well. Now this isn't an issue in standard contruction, you have windows. however in that design there there isn't anything but a door back for the rear two bedrooms...
Although I think this an interesting idea I think it has some issues that would need to be worked out.
Just thought I'd mention that if this really does go to trial this company, Toho, is going to have to start some pretty heafty legal battles! The reason for this is how many companys are using a zilla post-fix? Lets see (off the top of my head not even doing searches) Mozilla and Go!Zilla, after doing a quick search (google, search=zilla) I find that JWZ has a rather prominant website with "nomo zilla", http://gamezilla.com, http://www.zilladesign.com/, http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3749/bzilla.htm (someone planning a Godzilla rip off as a project), http://www.zillasports.com/, http://www.cafeelectric.com/ (produces a product called zilla with a reptilian logo), http://www.trafficzilla.com/, and the list goes on. I mean come on, this is a LOT of companys all using some sort of a "zilla" and some sort of a reptilian logo (of sorts) and some of these are LEGIT businesses! Why go after mozilla if it's an open source project (worse case scenario, heaven forbid, it changes it's name) when there are others making money off of the same type of thing? Sorry Toho, you loose....
... Star Fleet Command, LOVED that game and still have a lot of books, SSD's, maps, scenarios, custom ships, etc around. It was neat when they made Star Fleet Battles, very similar to SFC too... one thing that catches my eye is that these two (at least computer versions) seem a LOT alike. Mind you I have not taken up nethack and tried it, something I will now have to look at. But these games rock, I just wish they had more of a following... AND does anyone know what happened to the MMORPG version of Wing Commander Privateer? I WANTED that game to come out SOOOOOO badly, Wing Commander rocked, and I loved having matches with people in Armada, tons of fun!
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P2P doesn't actually solve a problem for developing worlds either. If an end user has a small pipe they are just going to be spinning their wheels trying to participate in the cloud vs. actually downloading the bits.
Where P2P actually starts helping is if (1) you have a large pipe at the end point and (2) there is either a choke point between you and your download or at the download it self. If you don't have this *specific* situation P2P is at best no faster or slower than a normal download. At worst, it's dramatically slower.
Ok you are so far wrong in your assumptions, assertions and comments it's a bit saddening. Let me set the record straight on where your at right now.
The primary purpose of peer to peer systems are to either avoid censorship or provide lots of cheap/free bandwidth.
the primary purposes _now_ are to avoid censorship and to provide lots of cheap/free bandwidth.
Ok, your partially right here, but in reality P2P in all it's forms is *not* to avoid censorship at all, they are there to provide a mirroring infrastructure where non can or does exist. And BitTorrent is in fact a rather bad mirroring infrastructure at that. Don't try to apply political motives or any other traits to P2P, it's a technical solution to a technical problem (mind you most of the OSS world, and in most everything doesn't actually have this problem and there are a number of papers, reports and findings that are clearly showing the BitTorrent and their ilk do not even remotely compare to the capacity of an even small mirroring system)
the last major upgrade of debian REDLINED the world's internet backbone infrastructure for a WEEK.
with the total linux usage only being - what... 1% of the world's desktop systems, and debian being a small fraction of that, the debian mirror system are ALREADY creaking under the load.
Redlined? Cracking? Debian? I'm sorry to burst your bubble but by the last numbers I have, when Debian releases the internet does not strain under the load. When Fedora releases (currently the largest / most popular Linux distribution at release time) the internet does not load, and it's not uncommon for the Fedora mirroring system to move 100's if not thousands Terabytes in a week. The internet doesn't redline or strain under this load, in reality most people don't even know it's going on. This isn't 1998 anymore, and there are a lot of mirrors out there with 100mbps, 1000mbps and even a few now with 10gbps uplinks to the internet.
Neither of these really apply to source code management.
why not?
Hosting is easily sponsored and the files aren't very big anyway. Few projects will face censorship anywhere other than the most regressive regimes (ie, China or the US).
i don't _want_ "sponsorship". i don't _want_ my pet project hosted by a large corporation. i want it completely independent.
This is quite the worthy goal, and I applaud you for it.
i want my web site content hosted and automatically mirrored across the world, along with its bugs database and its wiki all linked together.
Here's where your argument falls down though. If you use a traditional mirroring system, yes, your relying on the kindness and sponsorship of others to deal with the distribution of your project.
How is this any different than P2P? Your now relying on the sheer *kindness* (which in a P2P landscape is not to the pullers advantage) to continue to participate in the P2P cloud. While they are in they are sponsoring you and you are dependent on them. The only way to be truly independent is to run your own mirror on your own system and buy your own bandwidth.
i want people in the emerging markets and the third world to be able to have exactly the same kind of luxury that we do - and they DO NOT have "continuous access to the web site or access to the lovely sponsored hosting".
P2P still doesn't really solve that problem. The problem your relating is one of end user's bandwidth vs. bandwidth of a mirror or P2P cloud. If an end user has a small pipe participating in P2P is actually rather detrimental to them as a lot of their traffic will be eaten up trying to participate vs. actually downloading. Slow pipes are also bad for the cloud in general.
Mirroring here is still a better way to go. G
It boggles my mind how persistent RIAA & the MPAA are in trying to get this put into law. I understand how much of an advantage it would give them but grief there is this thing called 'fair use'. I explained the broadcast flag to my mom once, what it would mean and it's implications. She looked up at me, and said 'thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard, you mean to tell me that they would be able to prevent me from recording stuff that I'm unable to watch at the time they show it at?!' and promptly wrote her representatives lambasting the thing. It's a pity no one will introduce a law to outright ban the idea of the broadcast flag.
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Ok, here's some common sense that maybe even the courts will have to listen to. When you buy something, a physical product, like an XBox it is now your property. There may be patents covering the devices inside the device, there may be copyrights, trademarks, etc. but at the end of the day it's my hunk of atoms NOT the original companies. No amount of shrink wrap licensing binds me to do what I want with it. However if I do something thats not within what the manufacturer wants me to be doing with it they are welcome to cancel my warranty, and refuse to take liability for say me running 6 million volts of electricity through a paperclip, but thats just my perogative, they can't stop me from doing that. So thats where it all stands in terms of that.
the 9th circuit court in the case has ruled differently than what the article header here implies. Go, read it.
... trying to secure wifi isn't going to help anybody at this point. WEP is more a deterent than a security measure and in the end thats all it has become. WPA was a wacky bolt-on later and it's supported in all configurations or in every software setting.
There seems to be a lot of effort being put forth to secure wifi, and the question I have is why bother? Why not treat wifi the same as you treat the internet? Firewall all access to it, and if you want access to the internal network you have to vpn into it. Run your programs you care about with encryption turned on (use imap/s instead of imap, pop/s instead of pop, smtp/s instead of smtp).
All the money being spent trying to come up with a hardware solution is just going to cause all wifi hardware to be incompatible, more burdonsome to use, and a lot more expensive.
I was able to get a full working mirror before it went down, it can be found here:
http://www.eaglescrag.net/Googlex/
There is an obivous problem with the numbers, and statistics that are coming out of this "study".
RHEL releases updates and such ona a quarterly basis, thus the 71days without patching doesn't seem that odd (when you have a 90 or so window).
Windows Update puts major stuff up, typically, once a month.
The simple fact that there is a difference in release schedule is pointless and not a good basis for comparison.
I can dig up a copy of the XBox licensing agreement that came in the box, and in fact I've taught several classes around this licensing agreement. If you read it carefully (well at least the ones I have) they all state you don't own the xbox, you merely have a license to use the xbox, and that the xbox is still technically the property of Microsoft.
As for the software, your right I do own a license to the data on it, and I own the media and the paper bits, but beyond that I'm SOL I don't own it.
Posession might have been 9/10s of the law. It's not anymore.
Honestly, if I remember back to all those wonderful classes on what this country was founded on it reads (paraphrasing) "For the people, by the people".
Correct me if I'm wrong but what PA was trying to do was "For the people, by the people" and what Verizon is trying to do is "For Verizon's pocket book, by the money of the people".
Recently a lot of these kinds of laws have really irritated me by the fact that the laws as they were ogriginally intended gave consumers, the people, the ability to actually do innovative and creative things with what they bought. Now adays there is in theory very little that I "own". My XBox is technically on lease, my software almost all of it on "lease" (well the software that isn't linux anyway thank goodness), etc. At the end of the day I can look around at my apartment and wonder what I REALLY own.
The laws are terribly tipped in the wrong direction, this is another example of that un-balance.
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Sorry this is bad all the way around.
Though this might not be EXACTLY what you are looking for your router pc might want to run a NoCat server, at least force people to authenticate via a "yes I won't do stupid stuff" model and give them the ability to even possibly paypal you the money as well as a tip jar somewhere for it?
Just an idea, and NoCat really isn't all that hard to setup and it can "control" as many waps as you have on the network (mind you it will control EVERYTHING on the network not just the waps) worth a look as several companies and government entities have/are setting up nocat control boxes in the town I live in to control wifi access either so they get paid or so you are forced to accept a certain TOS.
SCO: You are infringing on our IP give us money NOW!!! ::thwaks them upside the head:: No. ::tear at the corner of their eye::
IBM:
SCO: OWWW!!!! You hurt us! Can you buy us out now?
Ok I can understand Microsofts want to have people use THEIR client, but I'm sorry some of us don't use windows and need to talk to people who are on windows based systems and happen to use MSN. I'm sure that there will a patch around this almost immediatley, but still :-\ quite annoying.
Microsoft: instead of making your protocol HARDER, offer the features people obviously want: a cross protocol client, if you make it slick, easy, free, etc people won't use trillian, they will use yours.... especially if you bundle it. Just don't shut down your network to the "outsiders"
Security.... yeah, security my big toe....
Just so it's on record, there are some rather serious gravitational problems involved as well and the fact that the shuttle didn't have nearly enough fuel to take care of it (the ISS is in a MUCH higher orbit and such) getting things worked out would have been incredibly expensive, and would have to assume that shuttle was refuelable in flight (I don't believe they are) thus impossible.
Well NASA at the time didn't think the problem was all that big of a deal to send up a rescue crew, so they didn't.
And before people start yammering about sending them to the ISS, someone give them a physics book, they couldn't have.
I hope that NASA learns something (when something falls off a vessle it usually isn't a good sign!!!) and to be a bit more catious in the future. BUT I think they should get right back up on the horse so to speak and keep going. To quote "Enterprise" (and one of their better episodes recently) "If we are ever going to explore deep space we are going to need to take a few risks" and thats the truth of the matter.
-- It's harder to fly into the sun than out of the galaxy, go figure --
PCE was demoing the red model at WinHEC (please don't flame me for having attended this conference, there really was some good information there) and I must say... it.. was... interesting. A lot of the crossbars and positions are customizable, there at least seemed to be some though put into cable management, however it looked suspiciously like the black cable conduits you can buy at home depot. The cables ran along the "spine" and everything gets mounted on a set of rolling wheels.
I asked the rep 2 questions, 1) how do I get this thing to a lan party (or at least my computer) since things are integrated the way they are and 2) what makes his company better than the others who have tried this "revolutionary" desktop
1) was answered with the wheels, though I would love to see someone try and get that into an elevator and up to say the 3rd floor and such
2) wasn't answered very well, basically ran along the lines of their "customizability" and the fact that they aren't the other companies. Though I have to admit it LOOKED cool, it felt... weird sitting in it.. I'm sure it would have been better with several flat panel monitors lined up in front of you... but honestly I don't think this is going to work perfectly.
My thoughts
VW Bugs happen to be just the right size to compare to a meteor! That and it's probably excatly what a VW would do if it was dropped on earth like that....
Frank the Astronomer: Dude we just dropped th VW from space to see what it would do
Bob his accomplace: It looks exactly like a meteor!
Well it's been a "hot" topic with Microsoft for a while now, it's interesting to see that they are actually going to go ahead with this thing (I mean this isn't the first time this type of security was built into an os/operating system, and you don't see any more of THAT stuff still around do you? What failed once is doomed to fail again)
Though windows having this isn't the concern I would raise. So fine Windows now has another stike against it, and my ancient copy of Civilization(first version) no longer works because it's not signed by Microsoft (but the emulation layer is there, and it works wonderfully!) and I must sell my soul to make any useful program work, etc.
What CONCERNS me is when this stuff starts making it into hardware. This is when MS could start making a power grab at being even more monopolistic than before. Right now they just make HUGE suggestions on what hardware should be around in say 5 years. If the pall stuff was in hardware they could effectivley squeeze out every that wasn't MS or a current uptodate OS[read: that they have made you pay for it in the last 10 minutes] , etc. It would be a sad day when it gets to that point, because it's not even the government who has taken our liberty away..... it's a monopolistic company, and our only hope [obi-won?] is that Apple doesn't fall prey to that mess, and we can still run linux on mac hardware.
Is it just me, or has the US government gone nuts about trying to regulate things they don't really understand, particularly the technology around us?
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I mean how many of them truely understand the far reaching implications of this? And considering that the rest of the world will not be held against this horrific piece of legislation they would be doing more harm to Americans than good. I mean a nat/vpn/tunnel/network mucker/security software/firewall is now illegal to run in the US, which makes all the computers MORE vulnerable to viruses and attacks, and would do nothing but line the pockets of lawyers (and possible the telco), along with giving the world access to whatever we are doing. I mean the USPO doesn't look at my mail when I send it, so why should someone see the e-mail I send?
I for one would start looking for a job in Canada if any more of this ludicrus legislation gets passed, I mean... at least they don't SEEM to be quite as stupid. That and the fact if this was passed it would take quite a while to re-work all the setups I have
The Supremes will have no problem with this, as it is NOT free speech. Freedom of speech means you can say anything you want (within reason) it does NOT mean that if I don't want to listen to it you have to force it upon me by calling me at the most inconvient time of the day while I'm eating my dinner with my family, which for the record is about the only time most of us SEE our families (if then), it's more these companies butting into the few moments we have to be a family together and they are stealing THAT from us.
It's not freedom of speech when you force it down my throat when I don't want to hear it.
To be honest, I have to agree with this. Support for blocking port 25 on a wide scale, will in the end, kill e-mail. The reason I say this boils down to the number of people who run different e-mail servers than their ISP. I for one own my own domains, and I pay for the ability to run my own e-mail server somewhere which I trust to be reliable, stable, and more or less in my control (either through my own hands, or by the power of my wallet - I don't like the service I move it). Now if AOL, or anyone else blocks port 25 this renders a lot of useful software, and a lot of SANE practices completely and utterly useless.
I do however offer a suggestion I've seen that might actually work out, however according to the person who started this thread it might not directly for him:
idea 1) force all smtp servers (recieving) to query back to the original sender of the e-mail to confirm that the user exsists on their system
note: this isn't perfect it might work, there is a good chance it doesn't though
idea 2) reject e-mail who's sender 1) doesn't match the domain it's coming from or 2) doesn't have a fully qualified domain
THIS should stop a lot of spam, as a lot of it will fail on one or both of those. I have been running into this more and more recently, and am going to install filters and such that match this
idea 3) arm everyone with shotguns, have them spy on their neighbours. If they find that their neighbours are spammers, they must shoot the kneecaps off their neighbours and bring them before the world for trial. if they are found guilty..... may the world have mercy on them. If not they get free knee surgery to have the poor things replaced and all.
this would work maybe... except that most e-mail comes from Asia, and their neighbours probably do it too... ohhh well
but seriously idea 2 really would stop a lot of the spam, look through the headers and you will see what I mean.
Also isps really need to take action against spammers, this is one of the reasons it persists. Talk to you ISP, tell them what you think.
The biggest problem I can see in the whole thing is egress. Most current building codes require at least two direct means of leaving a bedroom, and some require it for other rooms as well. Now this isn't an issue in standard contruction, you have windows. however in that design there there isn't anything but a door back for the rear two bedrooms...
Although I think this an interesting idea I think it has some issues that would need to be worked out.
Just thought I'd mention that if this really does go to trial this company, Toho, is going to have to start some pretty heafty legal battles! The reason for this is how many companys are using a zilla post-fix? Lets see (off the top of my head not even doing searches) Mozilla and Go!Zilla, after doing a quick search (google, search=zilla) I find that JWZ has a rather prominant website with "nomo zilla", http://gamezilla.com, http://www.zilladesign.com/, http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3749/bzilla.htm (someone planning a Godzilla rip off as a project), http://www.zillasports.com/, http://www.cafeelectric.com/ (produces a product called zilla with a reptilian logo), http://www.trafficzilla.com/, and the list goes on. I mean come on, this is a LOT of companys all using some sort of a "zilla" and some sort of a reptilian logo (of sorts) and some of these are LEGIT businesses! Why go after mozilla if it's an open source project (worse case scenario, heaven forbid, it changes it's name) when there are others making money off of the same type of thing? Sorry Toho, you loose....
... Star Fleet Command, LOVED that game and still have a lot of books, SSD's, maps, scenarios, custom ships, etc around. It was neat when they made Star Fleet Battles, very similar to SFC too... one thing that catches my eye is that these two (at least computer versions) seem a LOT alike. Mind you I have not taken up nethack and tried it, something I will now have to look at. But these games rock, I just wish they had more of a following... AND does anyone know what happened to the MMORPG version of Wing Commander Privateer? I WANTED that game to come out SOOOOOO badly, Wing Commander rocked, and I loved having matches with people in Armada, tons of fun!