I am unfamiliar with Redline Water Wetter, but it sounds like it has many of the properties of alcohol, but with the limitations of alcohol addressed, such as flammability.
Alcohol, and I assume Redline Water Wetter, does not change viscosity to any great extent, and thus my suggesting it first.
One other point. Make sure you purge all the lines of ANY air. Even alcohol can oxidize. A small hand actuated vacuum pump (available at most auto parts stores) should be sufficient to put the system under a decent vacuum.
One thing I am unsure of is conductivity in event of a leak INSIDE your PC. I really have no information in that regard, but I can see it being a concern.
Just trying to pass on my own experiences with Alaskan environment and cooling/heating systems.
I plumbed my ENTIRE house with Aqua-pex (no pesky building codes to deal with). And before I did so, I bought a 20 foot length, filled it with water, capped both ends, and set it outside at -40F. It never burst. Even after a few temp swings of about 50F, there was NO noticeable deformation. I seriously doubt you are going to experience such extreme temps. The other advantage of Aqua-pex is that you do not need any joints IN the slab. Any joints in the circuit simply become another possible location for a leak. Aqua-pex also has a very high shear resistance, so if you are in a earthquake prone area, it provides some protection in that regard.
As far as coolant, notice I listed ALCOHOL first. Yes, glycol is not a very good conductor of heat, but it is better then burst pipes (if you insist on using copper). The advantage of alcohol is that it will absorb any moisture you fail to remove from the circuit and dilute it, rather then just have that water pool in one location and continue it's corrosion.
Not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but you need to increase the thickness of the slab (dig deeper dude) wherever you have the circuit as the circuit itself becomes a weak point in the slab. Think perforated paper.
I do not think it will be an issue here, but the one thing I DO know about Aqua-pex--it cannot withstand long-term UV exposure. It will become brittle if exposed to UV light for any length of time. The solution is to simply wrap it with aluminum tape in any location it is exposed, such as outdoors in sunlight.
"Unlikely. Most Americans would have been totally unaware of all that."
When I was a KID, these "Stupid Polock" jokes abounded, without a single one of us actually knowing a "Polock" or understanding WHY they were even being derided as stupid. But the jokes were there, nonetheless.
While my post was not intended to be flamebait, but rather to express my disgust of the entire thread, it most certainly sparked some discussion. So are all the other child-posts flames, and if so, why not spend the mod points to label them as such?
If you are already having concerns about your employers possibly making such claims, then I suggest you listen to those intuitive, "gut-feeling" concerns.
Such intuition is there for a reason. "Why do I fell like there is a leopard hiding behind that bush?" is a product of past experience and occurs to you for a reason. It may keep you alive, or in this case, out of a courtroom.
Stick with your own machine for such uses as you describe and it will never be an issue. Besides, you will be kicking yourself in the ass when you DO end up in court. Hindsight is 20/20, but it still sucks sometimes.
"Same here. With IE I can file my bookmarks in the back of my sock drawer or between the mattresses."
While it is obvious that your comment is a joke, it is not far from the solution.
Instead of saving web addresses in the form of bookmarks, ones that will pop up in the Awesome-bar, save the addresses in a TEXT FILE and bury THAT fucker, and have FF delete all histories and personal information on close of the application (everyone concerned with security should already be doing this anyways).
If you're too lazy to do this (is cut/paste really that hard to do?) then your probably not THAT concerned about the whole situation anyways.
The only problem here is people's laziness exposing them, not the features. Learn the features and their inherent flaws/weaknesses, otherwise you're simply asking for trouble.
"Also, like a previous comment suggesting, maybe you should look into radiant heat tubing over copper."
This. I used to live in Alaska and radiant heat slabs were very common. The problem was making sure they never went without heat in the winter. If they did, you ended up with burst pipes and a cracked slab. Big headache.
The fix is burst-resistant flexible tubing. There is a product called Aqua-pex that fits the bill perfectly. Does not burst when frozen, has a 100-year warranty and is easy to install as it is flexible.
The other problem with copper in concrete is that the concrete itself is corrosive. It WILL eventually eat through the pipes leading to all sorts of headaches. Usually, when this happens the only fix is drain them and cap the pipes. Most people in Alaska with radiant flooring, even when using Aqua-pex, lay down a second circuit in case there is a problem. They simply hook up the back-up.
Another suggestion. If you DO use copper tubing, use alcohol, or some other coolant such as glycol, rather then water. You will have better heat transfer as well as less corrosion. This is, of course, assuming you have a closed loop circuit (would be foolish to have anything but).
"(Although I'm not sure if I was the only one who saw the launch video, and saw the first stage pitch suddenly before clearing the tower and then pitch in the opposite direction. Didn't look good...)"
I agree. I seem to recall a similar looking launch (Russian?) that ended up in fuel and debris raining back onto the launch facilities resulting in the deaths of many on the ground.
When I started watching the video my first thought was "Uh oh", but guidance managed to correct the pitch changes.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the pitch changes have effected over-all thrust? Was too much fuel wasted as a result of the corrections to allow for proper altitude?
Just because you have a perfectly working stage, faulty guidance could make that a moot point, one might think.
Seriously. Leave the typos in place. The submitter should be held fully accountable for their own mistakes. The effort expended on the part of the writer is one of the ways I determine the amount of weight I give what they write. If the writer cannot be bothered to proofread, then maybe I shouldn't bother to read it to begin with.
As far as the first letter missing from the summary, if it was a cut/paste error on the part of the/. admins (as I suspect it was. It is not that hard to miss the first letter when you are selecting text), then maybe I can see some MINOR bitching is in order. They are, after all, admins. They should be held to a slightly higher standard then the rest of us miscreants.
"What DRM are you referring to? What will the DRM do? Will it prevent the comupter from sleeping? Will it prevent the computer from waking up? Will it prevent the network card from working? Will it prevent packets from arriving? What will Microsoft gain from this so-called DRM?"
All very good questions that you do not answer and so remain.
And that WAS the point of my comment. Too many questions simply because of the names involved. I didn't even touch on the fact LINUX is involved somehow. And who the fuck said I didn't read the article? Do you see the name "Akamai" in the summary?
Anyone but me get the Willies seeing "Microsoft" and "BitTorrent" used together in such a fashion?
Without having even reached the end of the paragraph I had already gone into "Yeah, right." mode.
Seriously, with as much effort as Microsoft has put into DRM development, how can anything like this be expected to actually function the way WE, the end-user, want it to work?
I find it exceedingly difficult to dismiss a past such as Microsoft possesses, and having some university name attached to the idea does nothing for me. Universities these days will do anything for a buck, much like Microsoft.
And if I didn't already have a raging case of the Willies, throwing the name "Akamai" into the mix didn't help.
Hack an ATM and use the image from it for the photo.
You can speak the password to him via the network that McDonalds uses to take orders in the drive-through these days.
"Ok. I have 3 cheeseburgers, an Iced Tea and the password is "Where the fuck is Waldo? That will be $5,004.89 at the first window. Please pull through."
Unless, of course, the robot already has sufficient food and is simply stockpiling for the future. This in itself is not a bad thing, until such tactics prevent other robots from getting just the bare necessities they need to survive.
Obviously, this is simply survival of the fittest, but are we talking about survival of the fittest, or are we talking about keeping ALL the robots fed?
At this point we have to decide whether or not the actions of hoarding are good for the stated goal of having so many robots in the first place(why build so many robots if we didn't want them around?).
Greed, without malicious intent, is still greed. The summary should read "Robots learn greed" rather then "Robots learn deception", if that is the case.
I find it very discomforting that my opinion had already formed that quickly, as I soon realized my mistake and noticed how I responded once I read it correctly.
I really didn't care when I thought it said Osama, but I DID care when I realized it said Obama.
Very interesting AND INsightful in an introspective sort of way...
I think this company that is buying TPB is a front company for the RIAA, or other equally aligned entity.
They INTEND on driving the fucker into the ground. Why ELSE would they try and implement something so obviously stupid and doomed to failure?
Anyone have a link to The Pirate Bay 2 yet? (Seriously, how hard would it be to simply set up another tracker with a different name?)
If there is anything good out of this, the proceeds of the sale can be used to cover legal fees to get out from under existing legal fuck-alls, or to protect TPB2 from non-compete clauses that I am sure are a part of this deal. Get the RIAA to pay their legal fees.
While your comment is funny, it also holds a certain amount of truth.
People use the technology that is supposed to make things easier, and it does precisely that--makes things easier by doing it for you. What did you expect?
Did you expect to LEARN from NOT doing something?
Ever since I started typing on my computer (believe it or not, playing Ultima Online taught me to type accurately and quickly), I had to resist the temptation to use acronyms, abbreviations and the like. I knew it was a crutch, even back then. Surprisingly, other players in Ultima Online paid more attention to what I was saying if I actually spelled everything out. I found that people automatically treat other people differently by how much effort they put into what they say. I think many people do it sub-consciously. "kbye" is treated much differently then "May your travels be long and merry! Fare thee well!" would be, and for good reason.
The answer? Stop using that stuff (unless you're really stuck on the spelling of something)and just do things the way you normally would. You eventually learn to do things just as quickly and accurately on your own. Turn off the auto-fill, auto-correct etc. and simply pay attention to the underlines of a spell checker. When it flags something, try and figure out how it is spelled ON YOUR OWN before trying the suggested spelling.
If you never get out of the boat, you'll never learn to swim.
Try taking two Sims (or better yet, many!) with opposing personalities, then bricking them into a room with nothing but a toilet and an espresso machine.
"Get the fuck out, asshole. I need to take a leak!"
"Really? You sure you just don't want another Caramel Machiatto ?"
It's the only way I've actually made a Sim I didn't control kill another Sim (gotta love them neighbors!). It takes about 10-15 fist-fights, but eventually one takes a permanent dirtnap. I even had BOTH Sims fall asleep in the middle of one of them fist fights once because there was no bed. Ball of Fury, then pow!, interrupted script and two Sims sleeping in puddles of piss.
The funniest part is watching the "totally surprised" reaction of the Sim that did the killing when the Grim Reaper shows up.
"Oh sure, it's all fun and games until someone gets hurt!"
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I am unfamiliar with Redline Water Wetter, but it sounds like it has many of the properties of alcohol, but with the limitations of alcohol addressed, such as flammability.
Alcohol, and I assume Redline Water Wetter, does not change viscosity to any great extent, and thus my suggesting it first.
One other point. Make sure you purge all the lines of ANY air. Even alcohol can oxidize. A small hand actuated vacuum pump (available at most auto parts stores) should be sufficient to put the system under a decent vacuum.
One thing I am unsure of is conductivity in event of a leak INSIDE your PC. I really have no information in that regard, but I can see it being a concern.
Just trying to pass on my own experiences with Alaskan environment and cooling/heating systems.
I plumbed my ENTIRE house with Aqua-pex (no pesky building codes to deal with). And before I did so, I bought a 20 foot length, filled it with water, capped both ends, and set it outside at -40F. It never burst. Even after a few temp swings of about 50F, there was NO noticeable deformation. I seriously doubt you are going to experience such extreme temps. The other advantage of Aqua-pex is that you do not need any joints IN the slab. Any joints in the circuit simply become another possible location for a leak. Aqua-pex also has a very high shear resistance, so if you are in a earthquake prone area, it provides some protection in that regard.
As far as coolant, notice I listed ALCOHOL first. Yes, glycol is not a very good conductor of heat, but it is better then burst pipes (if you insist on using copper). The advantage of alcohol is that it will absorb any moisture you fail to remove from the circuit and dilute it, rather then just have that water pool in one location and continue it's corrosion.
Not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but you need to increase the thickness of the slab (dig deeper dude) wherever you have the circuit as the circuit itself becomes a weak point in the slab. Think perforated paper.
I do not think it will be an issue here, but the one thing I DO know about Aqua-pex--it cannot withstand long-term UV exposure. It will become brittle if exposed to UV light for any length of time. The solution is to simply wrap it with aluminum tape in any location it is exposed, such as outdoors in sunlight.
"Unlikely. Most Americans would have been totally unaware of all that."
When I was a KID, these "Stupid Polock" jokes abounded, without a single one of us actually knowing a "Polock" or understanding WHY they were even being derided as stupid. But the jokes were there, nonetheless.
While my post was not intended to be flamebait, but rather to express my disgust of the entire thread, it most certainly sparked some discussion. So are all the other child-posts flames, and if so, why not spend the mod points to label them as such?
I suspect I offended someone of Polish descent.
If you are already having concerns about your employers possibly making such claims, then I suggest you listen to those intuitive, "gut-feeling" concerns.
Such intuition is there for a reason. "Why do I fell like there is a leopard hiding behind that bush?" is a product of past experience and occurs to you for a reason. It may keep you alive, or in this case, out of a courtroom.
Stick with your own machine for such uses as you describe and it will never be an issue. Besides, you will be kicking yourself in the ass when you DO end up in court. Hindsight is 20/20, but it still sucks sometimes.
"Same here. With IE I can file my bookmarks in the back of my sock drawer or between the mattresses."
While it is obvious that your comment is a joke, it is not far from the solution.
Instead of saving web addresses in the form of bookmarks, ones that will pop up in the Awesome-bar, save the addresses in a TEXT FILE and bury THAT fucker, and have FF delete all histories and personal information on close of the application (everyone concerned with security should already be doing this anyways).
If you're too lazy to do this (is cut/paste really that hard to do?) then your probably not THAT concerned about the whole situation anyways.
The only problem here is people's laziness exposing them, not the features. Learn the features and their inherent flaws/weaknesses, otherwise you're simply asking for trouble.
"Also, like a previous comment suggesting, maybe you should look into radiant heat tubing over copper."
This. I used to live in Alaska and radiant heat slabs were very common. The problem was making sure they never went without heat in the winter. If they did, you ended up with burst pipes and a cracked slab. Big headache.
The fix is burst-resistant flexible tubing. There is a product called Aqua-pex that fits the bill perfectly. Does not burst when frozen, has a 100-year warranty and is easy to install as it is flexible.
The other problem with copper in concrete is that the concrete itself is corrosive. It WILL eventually eat through the pipes leading to all sorts of headaches. Usually, when this happens the only fix is drain them and cap the pipes. Most people in Alaska with radiant flooring, even when using Aqua-pex, lay down a second circuit in case there is a problem. They simply hook up the back-up.
Another suggestion. If you DO use copper tubing, use alcohol, or some other coolant such as glycol, rather then water. You will have better heat transfer as well as less corrosion. This is, of course, assuming you have a closed loop circuit (would be foolish to have anything but).
Sounds like any given street corner in Seattle...or some pretty wild porn.
Or both.
You mean kinda like the "Stupid Polock" jokes here in the good ol' US of A?
This is the kind of shit that makes me embarrassed to be human, sometimes.
*shakes head and wanders off*
Everyone knows that every true geek has a Mother that works the drive-thru window at McDonald's.
How they hell you think they get sustenance delivered to the basement?
"(Although I'm not sure if I was the only one who saw the launch video, and saw the first stage pitch suddenly before clearing the tower and then pitch in the opposite direction. Didn't look good...)"
I agree. I seem to recall a similar looking launch (Russian?) that ended up in fuel and debris raining back onto the launch facilities resulting in the deaths of many on the ground.
When I started watching the video my first thought was "Uh oh", but guidance managed to correct the pitch changes.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the pitch changes have effected over-all thrust? Was too much fuel wasted as a result of the corrections to allow for proper altitude?
Just because you have a perfectly working stage, faulty guidance could make that a moot point, one might think.
"The /. editors were too lazy to catch it."
What editors?
Seriously. Leave the typos in place. The submitter should be held fully accountable for their own mistakes. The effort expended on the part of the writer is one of the ways I determine the amount of weight I give what they write. If the writer cannot be bothered to proofread, then maybe I shouldn't bother to read it to begin with.
As far as the first letter missing from the summary, if it was a cut/paste error on the part of the /. admins (as I suspect it was. It is not that hard to miss the first letter when you are selecting text), then maybe I can see some MINOR bitching is in order. They are, after all, admins. They should be held to a slightly higher standard then the rest of us miscreants.
Can you say "Multi-boxed Shamans"?
"What DRM are you referring to? What will the DRM do? Will it prevent the comupter from sleeping? Will it prevent the computer from waking up? Will it prevent the network card from working? Will it prevent packets from arriving? What will Microsoft gain from this so-called DRM?"
All very good questions that you do not answer and so remain.
And that WAS the point of my comment. Too many questions simply because of the names involved. I didn't even touch on the fact LINUX is involved somehow. And who the fuck said I didn't read the article? Do you see the name "Akamai" in the summary?
"...must not feed troll. Must not feed troll..."
Anyone but me get the Willies seeing "Microsoft" and "BitTorrent" used together in such a fashion?
Without having even reached the end of the paragraph I had already gone into "Yeah, right." mode.
Seriously, with as much effort as Microsoft has put into DRM development, how can anything like this be expected to actually function the way WE, the end-user, want it to work?
I find it exceedingly difficult to dismiss a past such as Microsoft possesses, and having some university name attached to the idea does nothing for me. Universities these days will do anything for a buck, much like Microsoft.
And if I didn't already have a raging case of the Willies, throwing the name "Akamai" into the mix didn't help.
Hack an ATM and use the image from it for the photo.
You can speak the password to him via the network that McDonalds uses to take orders in the drive-through these days.
"Ok. I have 3 cheeseburgers, an Iced Tea and the password is "Where the fuck is Waldo? That will be $5,004.89 at the first window. Please pull through."
No need to leave the basement.
Unless, of course, the robot already has sufficient food and is simply stockpiling for the future. This in itself is not a bad thing, until such tactics prevent other robots from getting just the bare necessities they need to survive.
Obviously, this is simply survival of the fittest, but are we talking about survival of the fittest, or are we talking about keeping ALL the robots fed?
At this point we have to decide whether or not the actions of hoarding are good for the stated goal of having so many robots in the first place(why build so many robots if we didn't want them around?).
Greed, without malicious intent, is still greed. The summary should read "Robots learn greed" rather then "Robots learn deception", if that is the case.
I had misread the summary as "OSAMA/Joker".
I find it very discomforting that my opinion had already formed that quickly, as I soon realized my mistake and noticed how I responded once I read it correctly.
I really didn't care when I thought it said Osama, but I DID care when I realized it said Obama.
Very interesting AND INsightful in an introspective sort of way...
I think this company that is buying TPB is a front company for the RIAA, or other equally aligned entity.
They INTEND on driving the fucker into the ground. Why ELSE would they try and implement something so obviously stupid and doomed to failure?
Anyone have a link to The Pirate Bay 2 yet? (Seriously, how hard would it be to simply set up another tracker with a different name?)
If there is anything good out of this, the proceeds of the sale can be used to cover legal fees to get out from under existing legal fuck-alls, or to protect TPB2 from non-compete clauses that I am sure are a part of this deal. Get the RIAA to pay their legal fees.
While your comment is funny, it also holds a certain amount of truth.
People use the technology that is supposed to make things easier, and it does precisely that--makes things easier by doing it for you. What did you expect?
Did you expect to LEARN from NOT doing something?
Ever since I started typing on my computer (believe it or not, playing Ultima Online taught me to type accurately and quickly), I had to resist the temptation to use acronyms, abbreviations and the like. I knew it was a crutch, even back then. Surprisingly, other players in Ultima Online paid more attention to what I was saying if I actually spelled everything out. I found that people automatically treat other people differently by how much effort they put into what they say. I think many people do it sub-consciously. "kbye" is treated much differently then "May your travels be long and merry! Fare thee well!" would be, and for good reason.
The answer? Stop using that stuff (unless you're really stuck on the spelling of something)and just do things the way you normally would. You eventually learn to do things just as quickly and accurately on your own. Turn off the auto-fill, auto-correct etc. and simply pay attention to the underlines of a spell checker. When it flags something, try and figure out how it is spelled ON YOUR OWN before trying the suggested spelling.
If you never get out of the boat, you'll never learn to swim.
What the fuck is up with the "survey" pop-up you get in the summary's link?
You guys filter submissions for funky links? At all?
OMG.
Thanks for the link.
Monty Python's "Dead Parrot Sketch" performed by Nigerian Email Scammers. Truly priceless. Almost worth the price they were promised.
The link. Make sure you follow the story all the way to AT LEAST the video on page 3.
http://www.419eater.com/html/bigman.htm
Anyone else see the poetic justice in some back-jungle Shaman fleecing these guys out of their hard-swindled cash?
$300 for mojo powder...probably ashes from the fire he burns his extra cash in...Turtles on a string. I love it.
Wasn't me.
I was just commenting on the moderation I saw. Maybe you should learn how /. moderation works?
"It makes me wonder if there are parallel worlds created where this sort of thing happens all the time."
Sick bastard!
Jeez, a little imagination please.
Try taking two Sims (or better yet, many!) with opposing personalities, then bricking them into a room with nothing but a toilet and an espresso machine.
"Get the fuck out, asshole. I need to take a leak!"
"Really? You sure you just don't want another Caramel Machiatto ?"
It's the only way I've actually made a Sim I didn't control kill another Sim (gotta love them neighbors!). It takes about 10-15 fist-fights, but eventually one takes a permanent dirtnap. I even had BOTH Sims fall asleep in the middle of one of them fist fights once because there was no bed. Ball of Fury, then pow!, interrupted script and two Sims sleeping in puddles of piss.
The funniest part is watching the "totally surprised" reaction of the Sim that did the killing when the Grim Reaper shows up.
"Oh sure, it's all fun and games until someone gets hurt!"