I'd rather not. Info I'm comfortable with: we're a non-profit that would be a recognizable selling point for Goodmail, and the meeting took place about a week before they announced their deal with AOL and Yahoo (so before AOL announced that they'd pay the fees for non-profits). The deal they were offering at the time was essentially giving it away (including hardware), so I know they hope to plaster our name all over their marketing.
As of yet, I've been able to fend off any further steps towards adoption.
My argument that Goodmail is harmful to the community, with examples such as mysql, apache, and horde mailing lists which we use to do things we could never afford from a commercial vendor, has fallen completely on deaf ears with management.
Fortunately, they accept for now that we don't want to tell anyone that they can unequivocally trust an email that purports to be from us, which is how Goodmail tried to sell their service. My main weapon here was being able to refer to previous conversations where I successfully shot down antivirus footers of the type "This email certified virus-free".
I spent an hour beating them up on a number of issues, much to the embarrassment of my 'far too ready to sign anything' CTO.
Their VP kept harping on how "it will tell users they can trust your mail". My point that the real challenge was getting users NOT to trust things was not well received, to say the least. I also mercilessly attacked their constant assertion that their widget is "unspoofable", on the simple grounds that a similar widget in a similar location would be sufficient to fool many users.
My CTO has been asking me when we're going to implement Goodmail ever since. Khaaan!
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0070254923/ hobgoblin/104-0080544-7791944 Student's Guide to Unix
Harley Hahn in my opinion knows how to write a book. His books are good reads in addition to instructive, making it that much more likely you'll read them.
With a hot topic like Linux, you can't always trust that people writing books aren't just cashing in. Stick to the classics:)
I use twm every day, and get everything I need out of it. KDE, Gnome, and the like are enjoyed by many and I'm glad they're out there, but if you don't need or like them it's good that there are other options.
A wide variety of apps and interfaces is part of what makes unix great.
Very insightful comment. I reacted to the initial news with a knee-jerk 'ooh, that sucks', but I think you have the right of it...Linux doesn't have to fear this, it just has to get better.
Hopefully this is where the agility and responsiveness of not being tied to a corporation comes into play.
He suggested we tax speculation, not investment. Although speculators are often subject to the stupidity tax and there's no reason to further pursue the issue.
"Unless the job is specifically for an area that the company might not be known for, say a new chip company, and they are interviewing you for the skills you have in chip design, then I can't see how they can require one or even need to enforce one during an interview."
An NDA signed for an interview tends to be intended to protect the information that the company is working on a project at all. This doesn't proclude you from working for another company on the same type of project (as the lead poster is concerned about).
It just means if you take another job you can't say 'oh, we're making widgets? CompanyX just interviewed me because they're doing the same thing!'.
The problem isn't that the article is on Themestream, the problem is that the article isn't very good.
If you're writing something that people would like to see, putting it somewhere that pays you is just good sense. And there's actually a decent Linux section there...check it out.
>>Whilst I love linux it really was a complete bugger to install.
I think the point is that it'll come pre-installed, same as Windows. There are plenty of Windows users who couldn't install it if their lives depended on it, so there's no problem if Linux is the same way.
AOL also has around 20 million users, so while I don't like it I certainly can't say it's not a successful product. The benefit for Linux in general is the release of a high-profile, easy to use piece of software for an OS that's been characterized as being hard to use and not having any software.
Martin
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It seems only natural that he wouldn't have cared for the part, being a great actor used to working with other great actors (ie not Mark Hamill) and being an old man with assumably little interest in science fiction.
The fact remains, however, that he was indeed a great actor and he made a conversation about the Clone Wars sound as believable and exciting as anything he and Omar Sharif discussed. For that, Star Wars fans remember him the way he deserves...as a great actor who was a big part of what we know as a great film.
Not to mention Dr. Zhivago, and the incredible Lawrence of Arabia. He truly was a great actor with many fine roles, but having been a 9 year old in '77 means nothing will top Obiwan for me personally.
Current console technology is even farther behind PC (if they can be compared at all), yet millions of consoles sell. The PS2 and XBox will close this gap by a larger step than ever before, so they'll be incredible consoles and sell even greater millions.
The other way to look at it is that console and PC technology aren't really comparable in the way that you suggest, but either way....having an older processor isn't going to hurt the Xbox anymore than the pathetic (relative to PCs) hardware in a PS or Dreamcast hurts sales now.
While we obviously can't take the heavy handed actions suggested by the article, we certainly need some plan in place for enforcing our laws (hopefully a plan for setting some intelligent laws while we're at it, but that's another topic). What should we do if not this?
In other words, let's be constructive about this, and not just go for knee-jerk complaining.
>>And when your firewall falls over? Why bother to have multiple servers when your firewall becomes a single point of failure?>>
This was answered above... The point of the firewall is that it's a box that doesn't have to do anything but be secure. This is the only thing that allows your other boxes to work at all, since anything you want to do as a webhost is inherently insecure.
This isn't to say you make your other boxes wide-open security disasters, but you have to recognize that they'll never be as hardened as the firewall can be.
I enjoyed the article, but was also disappointed not to see mention of GNU or free software.
It seems as if the vocal majority of Slashdot readers are walking a strangely thin line...rabidly anti-Microsoft, but just as quick to put down those who defend free software insteal of open source. You have to either support the OSS software movement entirely or get modded down relentlessly.
>>Being able to move the phone physically (to a bigger office when you get promoted) just makes management of the system easier.
This part wouldn't make much difference in any of the places I've worked. When someone changes offices, I just switch a cable (cat5, even) from one port to another in the closet, and the phone number follows the individual without even having to carry the phone.
As far as fax machines and IP-based systems, we use a Canon printer/copier that also faxes. It's IP based like any other network printer.
The phones do look good, though, and I look forward to them being ready for prime time.
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I'd rather not. Info I'm comfortable with: we're a non-profit that would be a recognizable selling point for Goodmail, and the meeting took place about a week before they announced their deal with AOL and Yahoo (so before AOL announced that they'd pay the fees for non-profits). The deal they were offering at the time was essentially giving it away (including hardware), so I know they hope to plaster our name all over their marketing.
As of yet, I've been able to fend off any further steps towards adoption.
My argument that Goodmail is harmful to the community, with examples such as mysql, apache, and horde mailing lists which we use to do things we could never afford from a commercial vendor, has fallen completely on deaf ears with management.
Fortunately, they accept for now that we don't want to tell anyone that they can unequivocally trust an email that purports to be from us, which is how Goodmail tried to sell their service. My main weapon here was being able to refer to previous conversations where I successfully shot down antivirus footers of the type "This email certified virus-free".
I spent an hour beating them up on a number of issues, much to the embarrassment of my 'far too ready to sign anything' CTO.
Their VP kept harping on how "it will tell users they can trust your mail". My point that the real challenge was getting users NOT to trust things was not well received, to say the least. I also mercilessly attacked their constant assertion that their widget is "unspoofable", on the simple grounds that a similar widget in a similar location would be sufficient to fool many users.
My CTO has been asking me when we're going to implement Goodmail ever since. Khaaan!
Ah, the safe haven of the non-sexist business world welcomes another refugee to it's protective bosom.
Student's Guide to Unix
Harley Hahn in my opinion knows how to write a book. His books are good reads in addition to instructive, making it that much more likely you'll read them.
With a hot topic like Linux, you can't always trust that people writing books aren't just cashing in. Stick to the classics
Martin
>This is a joke, right?
I use twm every day, and get everything I need out of it. KDE, Gnome, and the like are enjoyed by many and I'm glad they're out there, but if you don't need or like them it's good that there are other options.
A wide variety of apps and interfaces is part of what makes unix great.
Martin
Did you just say 'way back in 1997'? Heh.
Hopefully this is where the agility and responsiveness of not being tied to a corporation comes into play.
Martin
He suggested we tax speculation, not investment. Although speculators are often subject to the stupidity tax and there's no reason to further pursue the issue.
Martin
Martin
An NDA signed for an interview tends to be intended to protect the information that the company is working on a project at all. This doesn't proclude you from working for another company on the same type of project (as the lead poster is concerned about).
It just means if you take another job you can't say 'oh, we're making widgets? CompanyX just interviewed me because they're doing the same thing!'.
Martin
Martin
If you're writing something that people would like to see, putting it somewhere that pays you is just good sense. And there's actually a decent Linux section there...check it out.
Martin
I think the point is that it'll come pre-installed, same as Windows. There are plenty of Windows users who couldn't install it if their lives depended on it, so there's no problem if Linux is the same way.
AOL also has around 20 million users, so while I don't like it I certainly can't say it's not a successful product. The benefit for Linux in general is the release of a high-profile, easy to use piece of software for an OS that's been characterized as being hard to use and not having any software.
Martin
The fact remains, however, that he was indeed a great actor and he made a conversation about the Clone Wars sound as believable and exciting as anything he and Omar Sharif discussed. For that, Star Wars fans remember him the way he deserves...as a great actor who was a big part of what we know as a great film.
Martin
Martin
I admire a well turned vulgar phrase as much as the next guy, but this is really a stretch.
Martin
Martin
Current console technology is even farther behind PC (if they can be compared at all), yet millions of consoles sell. The PS2 and XBox will close this gap by a larger step than ever before, so they'll be incredible consoles and sell even greater millions.
The other way to look at it is that console and PC technology aren't really comparable in the way that you suggest, but either way....having an older processor isn't going to hurt the Xbox anymore than the pathetic (relative to PCs) hardware in a PS or Dreamcast hurts sales now.
In other words, let's be constructive about this, and not just go for knee-jerk complaining.
Martin
This was answered above... The point of the firewall is that it's a box that doesn't have to do anything but be secure. This is the only thing that allows your other boxes to work at all, since anything you want to do as a webhost is inherently insecure.
This isn't to say you make your other boxes wide-open security disasters, but you have to recognize that they'll never be as hardened as the firewall can be.
Martin
It seems as if the vocal majority of Slashdot readers are walking a strangely thin line...rabidly anti-Microsoft, but just as quick to put down those who defend free software insteal of open source. You have to either support the OSS software movement entirely or get modded down relentlessly.
This part wouldn't make much difference in any of the places I've worked. When someone changes offices, I just switch a cable (cat5, even) from one port to another in the closet, and the phone number follows the individual without even having to carry the phone.
As far as fax machines and IP-based systems, we use a Canon printer/copier that also faxes. It's IP based like any other network printer.
The phones do look good, though, and I look forward to them being ready for prime time.
Martin