I forsee a South Park episode on the topic you describe Anonymous Coward:p. Cartman will become a Linux Zealot once he figures out how to run World of Warcraft with Wine and then goes on a crusade to change every computer in South Park to "Cubuntu" his own distro. All goes well until Steve Jobs comes to town to promote OS X where a big fight like Santa vs Jesus breaks out. Steve Balmer finds out and heads down to South Park and what an episode it will be!
Just as I'm about to launch my new site: http://www.pleasesendyouritemstomecauseiwillonlywr itegoodreviews.com/ This site is of course ad-free and will be sponsored by people that send stuff. The new breakthrough will be "The Button" on the site. We have only one button and it will take you to random company that has sent stuff. Thanks!
I guess it comes to honestly questioning the motives of the design choices of Blizzard? Having 7+ million people playing, and wanting to expand this even further (10+ million next christmas, or even more?) how it is going to affect design and content choices.
Yes I'm aware it alread is, 40 man raids is the thing of the past in TBC expansion, and green/blue items level 64+ are close to what some of the lower end raid gear is (according to posts and screenshots from beta).
But where will it end? How much influence does the finacial success and expectations have on the design choices? Are the designers and managers asking themselves: how can we design this so it will please our stockholders, make people addicted to our game, or do we base it on other things like loyalty to our customers etc?
Ok ok, I know, a lot of questions, no answers.
And a side note, I would never call WoW an MMO"RPG"... it is more of an MMO"RTS", or go as far as calling it a linear series of adventures with a few "pewpew" battlegrounds.
First Firefox 2.0, then SP3 for XP delayed to 2008? And Vista is soon out! Where will it all end?! I'll tell you! Where it all started! In Munich where the hairy legged secretaries are hacking the kernel as foreplay for an office romance! Viva La Beaver(ia)!
I second that. Jon Stewart on the Daily Show was the only reason I visited YouTube on a weekly basis. Sure, I watched a few Japanese TV shows while I was there, but nothing can top the Daily Show.
Yes, you are right it is restricted. But it is a game, it is not about who can write a macro/bot with a nice UI controller to play the game for you right?
And besides, if you think it is that limited, go and download some of the more popular UIs and look at the creativity that flows from being constrained by such crap.
My initial comment was sarcasm, maybe it was misunderstood, maybe not.
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...a controversial patent by the Omni Corporation on "Nano Technology" has been passed. The patent is vague but includes the highly controversial paragraph of pateting everything under "100 nano meters".
We had an excluvsive interview with one of the originators a Noble priced Physicist and he had only one comment on the matter:
... because this is just ridiculous. Wonder when this will pop up in Microsoft marketing "iPod vs Zune" - 'Zune does not contain viruses like iPod'. Media never stops to amaze me.
This write up dosen't reflect anything else than a person with supposed time management skills. Further to that, this is one persons point of view, remember that more than 7 million play this game and to add to that there are several active mmorpgs out on the market.
Don't misunderstand, this is what I guess an ideal casual gamer should be like, but it dosen't change the fact that there is still a growing problem with people lacking life management skills, or for other reasons decide to escape into games. Congratulations for having life management skills, or just not a personality or circumstance that gets you hooked on games/computers/random.
Btw, a tip is, if you use a mount, you can level herbalism to 300/300 in 4-5 hours, so need to drop it, 15 mins a day and you have it in two weeks if not faster.
Critically oriented people consider socially oriented people to be irresponsible parasites who refuse to do their share of the work
I think maybe the article is a bit of an over-generalization, it should be analyzed through different time periods of a persons life and many other factors are involved. I guess it's easier having high confidence and leech, than actually holding up high standards and doing what needs to be done.
People with high math skills live in a world with absolute laws (of mathematics) and consider human and social laws to be flawed equations with volitalie assumptions and promises which just does not make sense to them. Hence, "people suck..." and withdrawing to the stable laws of mathematics is easier than dealing with a manipulative social equation aka "How can I make money or power out of this?".
That said, there are some clients who's ideas are so far from yours that you should refer them out. You can't do a good job for someone you seriously disagree with.
So true, and many client's have a vision that is changed very often and you have to adapt, and some just don't know what they want at all so you have to rapidly produce examples and elicit the idea from them and their team. It is not an easy task gathering requirements.
Firstly, I don't blame the gaming companies, as much as I don't blame McDonalds if I'm getting fat because I'm overeating fast food or whatnot. But dismissing that a repetitive euphoric state from a random activity, say running, playing games or whatever it may be can not be traced to a chemical addiction would have to be studied and not just stated. Sure, you are not actually consuming the chemicals, but how do you know something is not produced within the body? Have you studied this problem in-depth?
I have several friends that have "ruined" their lives with online gaming from Quake I, Diablo, Ultima Online, Asheron's Call, Everquest, Anarchy Online to World of Warcraft (I have personally played all those games and more, but always managed to put real life ahead). I have seen friends drop out of Uni and "ruined" their lives by taking early morning part-time cleaning jobs just to be able to play to being unemployed and gaming. I've seen people I just knew by name drop out of Uni like flies due to the above mentioned games and even before that MUDs.
So what's the point? I always tried to figure out what motivates these people, and I've tried to help a few close friends to get out of it, but the uninstalling of the game worked for 2-3 days and then they are back on it. One friend broke his CDs, but how hard is it to download a gaming client nowadays? WoW's client is on their official site to download so is several others.
I have come to the conclusion, that there are several factors and they are different from person to person. Some like to be isolated and now they can also achieve "social status" without leaving their nest, feeling accomplishment, being über and having the best items and what not and in some games the highest level. Some get caught in the socializing itself. Some feel why bother with the real world, "it sucks" yet their real life obligations are crashing and burning and will put an end to their gaming sooner or later.
I guess it comes down to that real life is less appealing, and of course it is. Instant gratification is not as straight forward, and we have to do boring things to achieve better things. What gets me is that this problem will be even bigger now, specially with World of Warcraft introducing people to their in some case first MMORPGs. With new MMORPGs like Vanguard, Age of Conan, Warhammer and so on this problem will continue to grow.
Personally I would like to go all bonkers and draw wild unfounded conclusions like "this reflects a modern escapism from a society that is spinning out of control", but of course there is so much more to it than that, but alas the problem with online gaming will grow huge in the years to come. How to solve this problem? It is hard, it a person to person case I think, there is no pill for this, unless the goverment start banning things.
My 2p, a 60 Priest w/ crappy blues, in a non raiding guild.
A note: I do not in anyway blame the gaming companies.
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I forsee a South Park episode on the topic you describe Anonymous Coward :p. Cartman will become a Linux Zealot once he figures out how to run World of Warcraft with Wine and then goes on a crusade to change every computer in South Park to "Cubuntu" his own distro. All goes well until Steve Jobs comes to town to promote OS X where a big fight like Santa vs Jesus breaks out. Steve Balmer finds out and heads down to South Park and what an episode it will be!
Thank you, I did understand that part, but the other parts copyright yes yes?
Surely Google management, board etc had some kind of process of coming to the conclusion of going ahead with purchase of YouTube.
Manager #1 says, "Omfg that clip was hillarious!!!!111
Manager #2 says, "O M F G rofl lmao!!!!!!11"
Manager #1 says, "Lets purchase YouTube!"
Manager #2 says, "Yeaah wtf it pwns our video.google.com!!1"
I mean really, what was the evaluation process for such a purchase?
Linux Server market, check.
Support market, check.
"In addition, Microsoft won't assert rights over patents over software technology", um, well, ok, check.
Steve Balmer screaming "Linux Linux Linux" at the next dev conference, priceless.
Just as I'm about to launch my new site: http://www.pleasesendyouritemstomecauseiwillonlywr itegoodreviews.com/ This site is of course ad-free and will be sponsored by people that send stuff. The new breakthrough will be "The Button" on the site. We have only one button and it will take you to random company that has sent stuff. Thanks!
I guess it comes to honestly questioning the motives of the design choices of Blizzard? Having 7+ million people playing, and wanting to expand this even further (10+ million next christmas, or even more?) how it is going to affect design and content choices.
Yes I'm aware it alread is, 40 man raids is the thing of the past in TBC expansion, and green/blue items level 64+ are close to what some of the lower end raid gear is (according to posts and screenshots from beta).
But where will it end? How much influence does the finacial success and expectations have on the design choices? Are the designers and managers asking themselves: how can we design this so it will please our stockholders, make people addicted to our game, or do we base it on other things like loyalty to our customers etc?
Ok ok, I know, a lot of questions, no answers.
And a side note, I would never call WoW an MMO"RPG"... it is more of an MMO"RTS", or go as far as calling it a linear series of adventures with a few "pewpew" battlegrounds.
I honestly wish I came up with this idea! Captalism at it's finest! Can I get a "ca ching" anyone? Bwahahah!
I don't agree, it will settle down, but the Ubuntu dev team should find a more creative way to deal with upgrades so this does not happen to often.
This was a reply to a post that was deleted while I was replying. Original post was: "Re:U GET WAT U PAY 4 !".
I don't get it. So you are saying that we need peanuts to purchase Vista?
First Firefox 2.0, then SP3 for XP delayed to 2008? And Vista is soon out! Where will it all end?! I'll tell you! Where it all started! In Munich where the hairy legged secretaries are hacking the kernel as foreplay for an office romance! Viva La Beaver(ia)!
I love it! Can I have some of that Remond cake?
I second that. Jon Stewart on the Daily Show was the only reason I visited YouTube on a weekly basis. Sure, I watched a few Japanese TV shows while I was there, but nothing can top the Daily Show.
Yes, you are right it is restricted. But it is a game, it is not about who can write a macro/bot with a nice UI controller to play the game for you right? And besides, if you think it is that limited, go and download some of the more popular UIs and look at the creativity that flows from being constrained by such crap. My initial comment was sarcasm, maybe it was misunderstood, maybe not. T
... for the Burning Crusade expansion of World of Warcraft (Lua 5.1) and customized UIs!
...a controversial patent by the Omni Corporation on "Nano Technology" has been passed. The patent is vague but includes the highly controversial paragraph of pateting everything under "100 nano meters".
We had an excluvsive interview with one of the originators a Noble priced Physicist and he had only one comment on the matter:
"...All your base are belong to us."
... because this is just ridiculous. Wonder when this will pop up in Microsoft marketing "iPod vs Zune" - 'Zune does not contain viruses like iPod'. Media never stops to amaze me.
... and honestly I would predict that it is just easier getting a good set of Koss headphones and some classical or random music that is instrumental.
Studies have show (I don't have a link atm) that classical music even raises your productivite, that means more World of Warcraft time for me!
...a kevlar version, or atleast one with spikes where I can beat up people with lesser laptops?
This write up dosen't reflect anything else than a person with supposed time management skills. Further to that, this is one persons point of view, remember that more than 7 million play this game and to add to that there are several active mmorpgs out on the market.
Don't misunderstand, this is what I guess an ideal casual gamer should be like, but it dosen't change the fact that there is still a growing problem with people lacking life management skills, or for other reasons decide to escape into games. Congratulations for having life management skills, or just not a personality or circumstance that gets you hooked on games/computers/random.
Btw, a tip is, if you use a mount, you can level herbalism to 300/300 in 4-5 hours, so need to drop it, 15 mins a day and you have it in two weeks if not faster.
PS"No I don't blame the computer companies."DS
Critically oriented people consider socially oriented people to be irresponsible parasites who refuse to do their share of the work
I think maybe the article is a bit of an over-generalization, it should be analyzed through different time periods of a persons life and many other factors are involved. I guess it's easier having high confidence and leech, than actually holding up high standards and doing what needs to be done.
I think you're right in your calculations.
People with high math skills live in a world with absolute laws (of mathematics) and consider human and social laws to be flawed equations with volitalie assumptions and promises which just does not make sense to them. Hence, "people suck..." and withdrawing to the stable laws of mathematics is easier than dealing with a manipulative social equation aka "How can I make money or power out of this?".
That said, there are some clients who's ideas are so far from yours that you should refer them out. You can't do a good job for someone you seriously disagree with.
So true, and many client's have a vision that is changed very often and you have to adapt, and some just don't know what they want at all so you have to rapidly produce examples and elicit the idea from them and their team. It is not an easy task gathering requirements.
Firstly, I don't blame the gaming companies, as much as I don't blame McDonalds if I'm getting fat because I'm overeating fast food or whatnot. But dismissing that a repetitive euphoric state from a random activity, say running, playing games or whatever it may be can not be traced to a chemical addiction would have to be studied and not just stated. Sure, you are not actually consuming the chemicals, but how do you know something is not produced within the body? Have you studied this problem in-depth?
I have several friends that have "ruined" their lives with online gaming from Quake I, Diablo, Ultima Online, Asheron's Call, Everquest, Anarchy Online to World of Warcraft (I have personally played all those games and more, but always managed to put real life ahead). I have seen friends drop out of Uni and "ruined" their lives by taking early morning part-time cleaning jobs just to be able to play to being unemployed and gaming. I've seen people I just knew by name drop out of Uni like flies due to the above mentioned games and even before that MUDs.
So what's the point? I always tried to figure out what motivates these people, and I've tried to help a few close friends to get out of it, but the uninstalling of the game worked for 2-3 days and then they are back on it. One friend broke his CDs, but how hard is it to download a gaming client nowadays? WoW's client is on their official site to download so is several others.
I have come to the conclusion, that there are several factors and they are different from person to person. Some like to be isolated and now they can also achieve "social status" without leaving their nest, feeling accomplishment, being über and having the best items and what not and in some games the highest level. Some get caught in the socializing itself. Some feel why bother with the real world, "it sucks" yet their real life obligations are crashing and burning and will put an end to their gaming sooner or later.
I guess it comes down to that real life is less appealing, and of course it is. Instant gratification is not as straight forward, and we have to do boring things to achieve better things. What gets me is that this problem will be even bigger now, specially with World of Warcraft introducing people to their in some case first MMORPGs. With new MMORPGs like Vanguard, Age of Conan, Warhammer and so on this problem will continue to grow.
Personally I would like to go all bonkers and draw wild unfounded conclusions like "this reflects a modern escapism from a society that is spinning out of control", but of course there is so much more to it than that, but alas the problem with online gaming will grow huge in the years to come. How to solve this problem? It is hard, it a person to person case I think, there is no pill for this, unless the goverment start banning things.
My 2p, a 60 Priest w/ crappy blues, in a non raiding guild.
A note: I do not in anyway blame the gaming companies.