If I read you correctly, that's 20Mbps up and down (symmetric speeds) for 26 Euros... approx $36. Wow we're getting shafted here in the US.
In Palm Beach, Florida (a reasonably modern metro area) it's approx $53 a month (plus a whole bunch of extra fees and taxes) for Comcast for "up to" 16/2, which is really something like 5/1 (their site does not display the actual speeds, and uses some tech to speed up the first 10-20 MB so they claim very high speeds). They also have mandatory installation and setup charges if you aren't a current customer (I get my TV service included through the homeowner's association).
BellSouth is not any better.
My experience with both has been dismal. Both tend to oversubscribe, so you only get a fraction available. If I'm paying for 6 Mb/s, I should be able to (theoretically) open a bunch of sites and download somewhere near 6 Mb/s total. Doesn't happen with either Comcast or BellSouth. And what's worst is they throttle you if you stream video or use BitTorrent for extended periods.
I haven't seen distortions of reality this large since the Iraqi Minister of Defense.
I mean, WOW, just wow. These people are really making their state proud.
Doesn't Utah rank LAST when it comes to per-student spending? Maybe they're getting what they paid for. (psst next time spend more classroom time on science and math).
None of my apps are pirated. If Apple is truly banning jailbroken devices, they're imperiling themselves to lose what money I do spend, which seems silly and petty.
But the cost for development is still steep. I have a MacBook Pro running 10.4 and I cannot develop apps for the iPhone or iPod Touch without upgrading.
And before you tell me how cheap it is to upgrade, let me inform you that I have 10.4-compatible software that is NOT compatible with 10.6 without paying upgrade fees. For me it's not a $139 upgrade, it's closer to the cost of a Mac mini.
Your same arguments could be used to provide reasons why you should only use DRM-enabled applications on your computer. Be careful what you wish for. A locked-down ecosystem is healthy for no one. You don't want to be forced into which word processor you use, do you? You don't really want to remove choice do you?
So long as devices exist, they will be hacked. They will be disassembled. Their software will be modified. This is one of the ways people learn, and one of the ways that many of us started in our careers. A healthy bit of curiosity coupled with some intelligence has started many companies. We won't be shackled into a no-choice situation. Ever.
0.043% > 0%, assuming that the first number is even close to accurate. And no I don't condone piracy but this is just silly. There are very large numbers of users which means an Apple decision to prevent jailbroken devices from purchasing legitimate apps affects a large segment of the iPod Touch / iPhone community. This move will encourage piracy, not discourage it, because once "banned" the user has little choice but to pirate the apps they want.
Ummm you've never used wireless to transfer files to/from an iPod Touch / iPhone? You've never rsync'd data from there either?
Maybe you need a GUI button to press to do these things, but some of us don't. Things like: setup a cron job on a PC to search for the iPod Touch / iPhone, and if detected, rsync files to/from it automatically. Do a "real" backup of the device, which is handy when trying to figure out which files were modified when installing program y. Use nmap for iPod Touch / iPhone to check the security of a device (PC or whatever) when accessed through the wireless network. SSH into another machine on your wireless network. SCP files to another machine on your wireless network. Ping other devices. "Dig" for the egress IP address.
There are considerable number of things you can do with an unlocked iPhone / iPod Touch that you can't do with an unlocked model.
I've never pirated any apps on my iPod Touch or iPhone. I jailbroke my Touch so I could run MobileTerminal, grep, rsync, Categories, change my background, kill apps to free memory etc.
There are a CONSIDERABLE number of excellent apps available only if you jailbreak. Those same apps are simply not available in the App Store -- I've looked. There are some knock-offs (at ridiculous prices) but that's not the same.
One of the weak points about the App Store is if you want to try something and there's no trial version, you're stuck. Once you buy it, you can't get a refund if it doesn't do what you want it to do. There are some very costly apps that I would never buy for that reason. Give me a time-limited trial, or limit the number of records I can add, or some other sane limited version -- this protects the developer and the purchaser. I'm not so naive to believe that simply refunding money to the purchaser is the only solution, because it would be abused.
I have my own domain. I have only 4 "real" accounts and give a different account for everyone that needs an email address. My catch-all account sees all the stuff, and I trust SpamAssassin results. Very very little spam gets to me, and when it does I know which company gave out my email address.
Cheap and easy to setup, and I don't rely on any third party's free email services (which seem to come with their own supplies of spam and losses of privacy).
So if I understand this correctly, Microsoft -- who can't seem to get the bugs shaken out of its products, who can't seem to release anything that doesn't require a security patch in the first few months of its life, who can't seem to stop the buffer overruns and associated "old" problems from crashing their software -- has an opinion of how some other OS is developed, and wants people to believe that the competitors' development model is wrong?
Wow. Just wow. I didn't realize clueless meters could go that high.
Up until recently, Microsoft's code vetting procedures were so bad that in the past, developers snuck in WHOLE GAMES into Excel. How the hell do you miss something like that in a code review? I'm of course assuming that this type of behavior would not be condoned at Microsoft -- maybe it was, and that's part of the problem.
Meh. Always another company slashing its wrists a bit more and driving down the prices. It's gutted and commoditized the PC industry to the point that no one really seems to care about delivering high-quality components anymore. Brands I trusted have caused me more and more problems because if they can cut another corner and shave another dime off the price they will do it.
I am willing to pay more if the product is dependable. Yes, my time is worth that much to me, and worth that much to my employer. It's one reason I replaced my HP laptops with a MacBook Pro... after 2 hard drives went belly up (1 in one model, 1 in another), the wireless card failed, and I saw the laptops coming in from the field -- lines on the screens, *ALL* of the network cards failed on an entire HP notebook series, etc... screw that. These were corporate models, not the cheapies. Dead USB ports, dead power adapters, dead batteries, you name it. It was enough chaos that we considered changing vendors (we're a 100% HP company, with more than 300 thin clients / laptops / desktops and more than 50 servers, an HP SAN etc).
And HP is pretty much considered to be a good vendor.
The difference is that the iPad works for some nonzero number of people. I want Flash, so it's not for me. I want to draw on the screen, so it's not for me. I don't care about the rest -- I have plenty of networked storage for instance and I wouldn't plan on using it for more than @ work and home.
So you're comparing a notebook to the iPad? They're not the same device, even though there is some crossover. When you understand that you'll see why there is room for both in the market.
Sysinternals has a great tool you can use to automate installs / run software on multiple machines at once, called psexec. Depends on whether you need to run them interactively, in which case you'd have to also script a login. In the future maybe that's a workable solution for you, especially if you have to use large numbers of computers running Windows. Without grep, head, tail, less, etc I'd feel a bit frustrated. Of course if you're discouraged from installing something that's another issue as well. If nothing else there's always group policy. YMMV.
Both behaviors are harmful for the long-term survival of the human race. Cannibalism obviously harms other humans, and necrophilia would very likely spread disease. It also might discourage sex with a possibility of reproduction (i.e. with living partners), similar to society's discouragement of sex with dolls.
Of course I'm totally ignoring the ghoulishness of both crimes, and the populace's probable reaction when faced with someone guilty of one or both crimes. The reaction would tend to be very negative for the perpetrator.
And to extend your analogy, DogDude must know only what a car looks like, but nothing else.
I mean, really, I have a bunch of co-workers that don't know much about Linux but all of them have at least created a VM and installed it. One has gone Linux for his netbook, and another (that has only generic computer experience) is trying different Ubuntu flavors. It's all pretty buttons nowadays and anything "too difficult" (such as partitioning) can be totally skipped. More likely that DogDude is a troll than anything.
I think the GP is referring to this well-known Bill Gates quote:
* One thing we have got to change in our strategy - allowing Office documents to be rendered very well by other peoples browsers is one of the most destructive things we could do to the company. We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.
o 1998 a memo to the Office product group[2]
This is actually very simple. They are charging and you are paying for their service. You can do it yourself for free if you want. If you want to take their code and use it, that's a moral issue.
The big deal is that you can buy the service from them, and then you have someone liable for damages (assuming you can prove they caused a problem which resulted in damages to you). That's worth considerably more than $5 per month.
Unfortunately in this case Russinovich was wrong, at least for XP installations. Microsoft still recommends changing the SID, claiming that you risk allowing access to data (as well as other nasties) if you don't change the SID.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314828
To further clarify, from that same page:
Microsoft does not provide support for computers on which Windows XP is installed by duplication of fully installed copies of Windows XP. Microsoft does support computers on which Windows XP is installed by use of disk-duplication software and the System Preparation tool (Sysprep.exe).
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Mod parent up. A totally workable, tried-n-true, relatively inexpensive solution for the issue.
If I read you correctly, that's 20Mbps up and down (symmetric speeds) for 26 Euros... approx $36. Wow we're getting shafted here in the US.
In Palm Beach, Florida (a reasonably modern metro area) it's approx $53 a month (plus a whole bunch of extra fees and taxes) for Comcast for "up to" 16/2, which is really something like 5/1 (their site does not display the actual speeds, and uses some tech to speed up the first 10-20 MB so they claim very high speeds). They also have mandatory installation and setup charges if you aren't a current customer (I get my TV service included through the homeowner's association).
BellSouth is not any better.
My experience with both has been dismal. Both tend to oversubscribe, so you only get a fraction available. If I'm paying for 6 Mb/s, I should be able to (theoretically) open a bunch of sites and download somewhere near 6 Mb/s total. Doesn't happen with either Comcast or BellSouth. And what's worst is they throttle you if you stream video or use BitTorrent for extended periods.
I haven't seen distortions of reality this large since the Iraqi Minister of Defense. I mean, WOW, just wow. These people are really making their state proud. Doesn't Utah rank LAST when it comes to per-student spending? Maybe they're getting what they paid for. (psst next time spend more classroom time on science and math).
There shouldn't be any reason to require a business ISP account just to use your own domain's email services. Who's the stupid one here, AC?
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor
None of my apps are pirated. If Apple is truly banning jailbroken devices, they're imperiling themselves to lose what money I do spend, which seems silly and petty.
But the cost for development is still steep. I have a MacBook Pro running 10.4 and I cannot develop apps for the iPhone or iPod Touch without upgrading.
And before you tell me how cheap it is to upgrade, let me inform you that I have 10.4-compatible software that is NOT compatible with 10.6 without paying upgrade fees. For me it's not a $139 upgrade, it's closer to the cost of a Mac mini.
Your same arguments could be used to provide reasons why you should only use DRM-enabled applications on your computer. Be careful what you wish for. A locked-down ecosystem is healthy for no one. You don't want to be forced into which word processor you use, do you? You don't really want to remove choice do you?
So long as devices exist, they will be hacked. They will be disassembled. Their software will be modified. This is one of the ways people learn, and one of the ways that many of us started in our careers. A healthy bit of curiosity coupled with some intelligence has started many companies. We won't be shackled into a no-choice situation. Ever.
0.043% > 0%, assuming that the first number is even close to accurate. And no I don't condone piracy but this is just silly. There are very large numbers of users which means an Apple decision to prevent jailbroken devices from purchasing legitimate apps affects a large segment of the iPod Touch / iPhone community. This move will encourage piracy, not discourage it, because once "banned" the user has little choice but to pirate the apps they want.
Ummm you've never used wireless to transfer files to/from an iPod Touch / iPhone? You've never rsync'd data from there either?
Maybe you need a GUI button to press to do these things, but some of us don't. Things like: setup a cron job on a PC to search for the iPod Touch / iPhone, and if detected, rsync files to/from it automatically. Do a "real" backup of the device, which is handy when trying to figure out which files were modified when installing program y. Use nmap for iPod Touch / iPhone to check the security of a device (PC or whatever) when accessed through the wireless network. SSH into another machine on your wireless network. SCP files to another machine on your wireless network. Ping other devices. "Dig" for the egress IP address.
There are considerable number of things you can do with an unlocked iPhone / iPod Touch that you can't do with an unlocked model.
I've never pirated any apps on my iPod Touch or iPhone. I jailbroke my Touch so I could run MobileTerminal, grep, rsync, Categories, change my background, kill apps to free memory etc.
There are a CONSIDERABLE number of excellent apps available only if you jailbreak. Those same apps are simply not available in the App Store -- I've looked. There are some knock-offs (at ridiculous prices) but that's not the same.
One of the weak points about the App Store is if you want to try something and there's no trial version, you're stuck. Once you buy it, you can't get a refund if it doesn't do what you want it to do. There are some very costly apps that I would never buy for that reason. Give me a time-limited trial, or limit the number of records I can add, or some other sane limited version -- this protects the developer and the purchaser. I'm not so naive to believe that simply refunding money to the purchaser is the only solution, because it would be abused.
I have my own domain. I have only 4 "real" accounts and give a different account for everyone that needs an email address. My catch-all account sees all the stuff, and I trust SpamAssassin results. Very very little spam gets to me, and when it does I know which company gave out my email address.
Cheap and easy to setup, and I don't rely on any third party's free email services (which seem to come with their own supplies of spam and losses of privacy).
You got Punk'd.
Well, I'm from Florida, and this was certainly news to me.
So if I understand this correctly, Microsoft -- who can't seem to get the bugs shaken out of its products, who can't seem to release anything that doesn't require a security patch in the first few months of its life, who can't seem to stop the buffer overruns and associated "old" problems from crashing their software -- has an opinion of how some other OS is developed, and wants people to believe that the competitors' development model is wrong?
Wow. Just wow. I didn't realize clueless meters could go that high.
Up until recently, Microsoft's code vetting procedures were so bad that in the past, developers snuck in WHOLE GAMES into Excel. How the hell do you miss something like that in a code review? I'm of course assuming that this type of behavior would not be condoned at Microsoft -- maybe it was, and that's part of the problem.
Meh. Always another company slashing its wrists a bit more and driving down the prices. It's gutted and commoditized the PC industry to the point that no one really seems to care about delivering high-quality components anymore. Brands I trusted have caused me more and more problems because if they can cut another corner and shave another dime off the price they will do it.
I am willing to pay more if the product is dependable. Yes, my time is worth that much to me, and worth that much to my employer. It's one reason I replaced my HP laptops with a MacBook Pro... after 2 hard drives went belly up (1 in one model, 1 in another), the wireless card failed, and I saw the laptops coming in from the field -- lines on the screens, *ALL* of the network cards failed on an entire HP notebook series, etc... screw that. These were corporate models, not the cheapies. Dead USB ports, dead power adapters, dead batteries, you name it. It was enough chaos that we considered changing vendors (we're a 100% HP company, with more than 300 thin clients / laptops / desktops and more than 50 servers, an HP SAN etc).
And HP is pretty much considered to be a good vendor.
The difference is that the iPad works for some nonzero number of people. I want Flash, so it's not for me. I want to draw on the screen, so it's not for me. I don't care about the rest -- I have plenty of networked storage for instance and I wouldn't plan on using it for more than @ work and home.
So you're comparing a notebook to the iPad? They're not the same device, even though there is some crossover. When you understand that you'll see why there is room for both in the market.
Sysinternals has a great tool you can use to automate installs / run software on multiple machines at once, called psexec. Depends on whether you need to run them interactively, in which case you'd have to also script a login. In the future maybe that's a workable solution for you, especially if you have to use large numbers of computers running Windows. Without grep, head, tail, less, etc I'd feel a bit frustrated. Of course if you're discouraged from installing something that's another issue as well. If nothing else there's always group policy. YMMV.
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Both behaviors are harmful for the long-term survival of the human race. Cannibalism obviously harms other humans, and necrophilia would very likely spread disease. It also might discourage sex with a possibility of reproduction (i.e. with living partners), similar to society's discouragement of sex with dolls.
Of course I'm totally ignoring the ghoulishness of both crimes, and the populace's probable reaction when faced with someone guilty of one or both crimes. The reaction would tend to be very negative for the perpetrator.
Poor attempt at 'turfing. Many of your points are so obviously false that you must have to bite your forked tongue when you say them.
And to extend your analogy, DogDude must know only what a car looks like, but nothing else.
I mean, really, I have a bunch of co-workers that don't know much about Linux but all of them have at least created a VM and installed it. One has gone Linux for his netbook, and another (that has only generic computer experience) is trying different Ubuntu flavors. It's all pretty buttons nowadays and anything "too difficult" (such as partitioning) can be totally skipped. More likely that DogDude is a troll than anything.
I think the GP is referring to this well-known Bill Gates quote:
* One thing we have got to change in our strategy - allowing Office documents to be rendered very well by other peoples browsers is one of the most destructive things we could do to the company. We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities. o 1998 a memo to the Office product group[2]
This is actually very simple. They are charging and you are paying for their service. You can do it yourself for free if you want. If you want to take their code and use it, that's a moral issue.
The big deal is that you can buy the service from them, and then you have someone liable for damages (assuming you can prove they caused a problem which resulted in damages to you). That's worth considerably more than $5 per month.
What are you mumbling about? Really, can we have some meat with your scrawny post?
Microsoft does not provide support for computers on which Windows XP is installed by duplication of fully installed copies of Windows XP. Microsoft does support computers on which Windows XP is installed by use of disk-duplication software and the System Preparation tool (Sysprep.exe).