"thousand times more secure than ordinary textual passwords. "
Sure, but like a half the poster have already said you are going to have a 80% of end luser drawing happy faces, smileys and stick figures with giant cocks. Easy to dup and a thousand times less secure than a regular pass.
Plus the problem with the signature recognition people have talked about in other posts is that the tools already available at retail stores all suck nuts. You ever try signing your name for a credit card transaction?
It never looks right or feels right and it always looks screwed up different every single time.
Shirt: "You do realize that deodorant is not in limited supply?"
Me: "Shut up damnit I sprayed the pits."
Shirt: "Yeah but what freakin' century and what is with those dance moves I mean Anthony Michael Hall doing the geek moves in the Breakfast Club had more grooves than you."
Me: "Ok crap this is the last time I take you out."
Shirt: "So, you are saying you are actually going to start having a social life?"
Me: "Life critiques from my apparel, wonderful."
Shirt: "Listen if you want to ditch me to the floor man that is all you there is a hottie right over there that is just dying to rip me off of you."
Read the article he was a developer and walked into the job with an attitude.
I have worked a ton of these jobs and a lot of things people have said so far I totally and completely agree with:
1. Just because someone does not understand computers does not make them an idiot. I did tech support for lawyers at one point and you cannot tell me that the Harvard grad senior partner was an idiot just because he knew less about computers than Bob the first year help desk guy. Yet, Bob got his silly butt fired for treating the senior partner like a moron and insulting his computing skills.
2. Its customer service. Yeah you might be able to answer half the questions before the customer figures out what to tell you about their problem but come on.
3. Sure, a customer should be prepared with basic info going into a help desk call just like you should have all your insurance info right there when you call the company on a claim and all that. But this is not the way to look at it. When someone takes their car in especially nowadays they do not know cars and can barely in grunts noises and gestures describe their issue. That is the way it is. Its the job. Get over it.
4. You think customer service sucks? Man, you ain't seen shitty jobs till you flipped burgers or done landscaping in the hot summer or worked a conveince store so until you have scrubbed puke out of a toilet at 3am after the drunks drop come in with the munchies acting rowdy then shut the hell up. Boo-frickin-hoo You are above it? Then quit, get a better job and get over it.
5. I agree with the poster who talked about the good service from Apple. I have heard some motherboard freaking out mac in the shop for weeks horror stories. But it has never been my experience. I went in a month after I got my shuffle and the usb went dead and my computer would not recognize the thing at all. Unlike one poster that wrote the Genius Bar guys off as arrogant the guy checked out what I said I told him what I had tried and he plugged the thing into a Mac right there and - nothing- they replaced it right then and there. Quick, easy polite and all.
You have to understand Woz is from a different era and genre of computing. He has been out of the business since the days when Assembly was king and you had to hack programs and optimize them very, very hard to get them to work at all.
Most folks I know from that era feel the same way about today's large programs whether they are from Apple or not.
Come on, give the old guy a break there was a hell of a lot more to the article than that one quote.
I am mean come on this is an alternative OS people !!!!
Give the Open Source guy a few months and generally you will get a driver for your all-in-one printer/fax/washes my car printer thingee. Sometimes yes it takes longer but that is the rub folks you are working off of an alternative OS that most hw manufacturers are never going to directly support. Sometimes the new driver is easy and sometimes without specs... its damn nearly impossible to reverse engineer all of the features. Oh, you don't like that?
Sorry man maybe its time to go back to Windows or Mac OS X.
The linux freaks you see arguing over color schemes are not writing that neat new program or usually that device driver.
Those are fans for the most part not developers.
Yes, in a free world where there are no central authority forcing people to code but folks doing what they want yes sometimes the development process can seem slow and other times there is a burst of activity (note Rhythmbox as of late adding a ton of features after a ton of time where little seemed like it was going on).
Maybe people need to stop criticizing the Open Source community and start focusing on the corporations that make money off of linux and ask why RedHat and Novell and the folks behind Mandriva are not forcing some of their employees to do some of this coding.
But then again what is the obsession with printers?? I have seen this mentioned in a few criticisms of desktop linux but rarely if ever have a problem with Fedora or Suse or Ubuntu anymore. Now, sound in Gnome? That is where I am pulling my hair out!!! Someone replace ESD pleeeeeeeeze.
But I am still grateful for a free OS and all the people using their own time to contribute.
I mean it seems like I have been reading about the collapse of western civilization, literature and the death of all knowledge since I was a munchkin for goodness sakes.
Alarmist noise meant to freak people out or push a point of view.
I mean am I wrong or does this seem like just another re-hash of the old tv/computers/comic books/gore movies and porn will rot your brain noise?
Imagine someone has already hacked Mac OS X for regular Intel hardware.
And they will do it again.
Its the nature of the Intel platform to be widely available so no matter what Apple does you will see pirated hacked versions of Mac OS X and all Mac software available to the Warez kiddies very soon.
I see the day when any mac support forum will be populated primarily by ex-Windows l33tsters complaining about how Mac OS blows because it does not run well or recognize their hardware off their custom built square box put together from spare parts found in their basement and bought from Compuseless or new3gg.
Fans that bought their OS and machine from Apple will be laughed off of most forums immediately.
Yeah, maybe this was not such a great move by Jobs after all.
Am I the only one that sees this coming?
Is there any piece of hardware or software built for the Intel platform that has not been hacked or Warez'd to death?
Ok, there are studies that show the impact of introduced wolf packs are having a positive impact on some areas in Canada.
On the other hand, it seems like every time we introduce a non-native bit of flora and fauna to the North American landscape we end up with those jumping fish in the Mississippi river or kudzu all over everything in the South or..... (you get the picture)
Outside of a very restricted park environment I can see a serious potential for tragedy here.
Will the cable companies work with Tivo to get this going or will they do what another poster said and reverse engineer.
Of course btw, to another poster it runs linux.
There is a linux port to just about everything. Hell, my toaster runs linux produces GNU/Linux toast with the faces of Stallman and Linus facing off to each other for goodness sakes.
I really do wonder though how long it will take before someone out-Tivo's Tivo.
I mean this guy had a ton of stories and the article don't get me wrong was ended well.
It just seemed to brief.
The Woz story is just funny stuff.
It kind of reminded me of my only non-corporate IT work experience where I was a tech support guy for a small niche software company.
Very nice and some people here seem to thing that Andy does not get enough credit.
I typically agree but it is good to note that a number of tech friends interested in the history of computers know his name so perhaps the knowledge won't get totally lost.
I mean I love most of the gnu software I have running on my system and god bless any contributor to that effort but - woh! - he says some of the funniest things like:
The Workplace: JA: What if your job requires you to use non-free software?
Richard Stallman: I would quit that job. Would you participate in something anti-social just because somebody pays you to?
I mean come on. Both free and non-free software has its place in the modern world and I need to take technology to a religious level like I need a hole in my head.
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"thousand times more secure than ordinary textual passwords. "
Sure, but like a half the poster have already said you are going to have a 80% of end luser drawing happy faces, smileys and stick figures with giant cocks. Easy to dup and a thousand times less secure than a regular pass.
Plus the problem with the signature recognition people have talked about in other posts is that the tools already available at retail stores all suck nuts. You ever try signing your name for a credit card transaction?
It never looks right or feels right and it always looks screwed up different every single time.
The would have included ogg files that had instructions for creating a beuwolf cluster of linux embedding in the tags of the files!
The fat penguins ate them all.
One of the more user-friendly distros and one of the first with a graphical install complete with a tetris game. Then SCO got a hold of it and ...
yuck you know the rest.
Its more popular than beer with the college kids. Frat boys will have to start back binge drinking again if they stop selling iPods.
You know I got a shitlist of people that I love to see shot off into the vacuum of space.
Oh colonization RTFA first I guess.
My shirt and I having a conversation in a club.
Shirt: "You do realize that deodorant is not in limited supply?"
Me: "Shut up damnit I sprayed the pits."
Shirt: "Yeah but what freakin' century and what is with those dance moves I mean Anthony Michael Hall doing the geek moves in the Breakfast Club had more grooves than you."
Me: "Ok crap this is the last time I take you out."
Shirt: "So, you are saying you are actually going to start having a social life?"
Me: "Life critiques from my apparel, wonderful."
Shirt: "Listen if you want to ditch me to the floor man that is all you there is a hottie right over there that is just dying to rip me off of you."
Me: "Really? Damn, point that out dude."
Read the article he was a developer and walked into the job with an attitude.
I have worked a ton of these jobs and a lot of things people have said so far I totally and completely agree with:
1. Just because someone does not understand computers does not make them an idiot. I did tech support for lawyers at one point and you cannot tell me that the Harvard grad senior partner was an idiot just because he knew less about computers than Bob the first year help desk guy. Yet, Bob got his silly butt fired for treating the senior partner like a moron and insulting his computing skills.
2. Its customer service. Yeah you might be able to answer half the questions before the customer figures out what to tell you about their problem but come on.
3. Sure, a customer should be prepared with basic info going into a help desk call just like you should have all your insurance info right there when you call the company on a claim and all that. But this is not the way to look at it. When someone takes their car in especially nowadays they do not know cars and can barely in grunts noises and gestures describe their issue. That is the way it is. Its the job. Get over it.
4. You think customer service sucks? Man, you ain't seen shitty jobs till you flipped burgers or done landscaping in the hot summer or worked a conveince store so until you have scrubbed puke out of a toilet at 3am after the drunks drop come in with the munchies acting rowdy then shut the hell up. Boo-frickin-hoo You are above it? Then quit, get a better job and get over it.
5. I agree with the poster who talked about the good service from Apple. I have heard some motherboard freaking out mac in the shop for weeks horror stories. But it has never been my experience. I went in a month after I got my shuffle and the usb went dead and my computer would not recognize the thing at all. Unlike one poster that wrote the Genius Bar guys off as arrogant the guy checked out what I said I told him what I had tried and he plugged the thing into a Mac right there and - nothing- they replaced it right then and there. Quick, easy polite and all.
You have to understand Woz is from a different era and genre of computing. He has been out of the business since the days when Assembly was king and you had to hack programs and optimize them very, very hard to get them to work at all.
Most folks I know from that era feel the same way about today's large programs whether they are from Apple or not.
Come on, give the old guy a break there was a hell of a lot more to the article than that one quote.
Anyone else RTFA?
I am mean come on this is an alternative OS people !!!!
Give the Open Source guy a few months and generally you will get a driver for your all-in-one printer/fax/washes my car printer thingee. Sometimes yes it takes longer but that is the rub folks you are working off of an alternative OS that most hw manufacturers are never going to directly support. Sometimes the new driver is easy and sometimes without specs... its damn nearly impossible to reverse engineer all of the features. Oh, you don't like that?
Sorry man maybe its time to go back to Windows or Mac OS X.
The linux freaks you see arguing over color schemes are not writing that neat new program or usually that device driver.
Those are fans for the most part not developers.
Yes, in a free world where there are no central authority forcing people to code but folks doing what they want yes sometimes the development process can seem slow and other times there is a burst of activity (note Rhythmbox as of late adding a ton of features after a ton of time where little seemed like it was going on).
Maybe people need to stop criticizing the Open Source community and start focusing on the corporations that make money off of linux and ask why RedHat and Novell and the folks behind Mandriva are not forcing some of their employees to do some of this coding.
But then again what is the obsession with printers?? I have seen this mentioned in a few criticisms of desktop linux but rarely if ever have a problem with Fedora or Suse or Ubuntu anymore. Now, sound in Gnome? That is where I am pulling my hair out!!! Someone replace ESD pleeeeeeeeze.
But I am still grateful for a free OS and all the people using their own time to contribute.
I mean it seems like I have been reading about the collapse of western civilization, literature and the death of all knowledge since I was a munchkin for goodness sakes.
Alarmist noise meant to freak people out or push a point of view.
I mean am I wrong or does this seem like just another re-hash of the old tv/computers/comic books/gore movies and porn will rot your brain noise?
Imagine someone has already hacked Mac OS X for regular Intel hardware.
And they will do it again.
Its the nature of the Intel platform to be widely available so no matter what Apple does you will see pirated hacked versions of Mac OS X and all Mac software available to the Warez kiddies very soon.
I see the day when any mac support forum will be populated primarily by ex-Windows l33tsters complaining about how Mac OS blows because it does not run well or recognize their hardware off their custom built square box put together from spare parts found in their basement and bought from Compuseless or new3gg.
Fans that bought their OS and machine from Apple will be laughed off of most forums immediately.
Yeah, maybe this was not such a great move by Jobs after all.
Am I the only one that sees this coming?
Is there any piece of hardware or software built for the Intel platform that has not been hacked or Warez'd to death?
They killed themselves because they were tired of dealing with the French.... :)
ok that was cheap and I am not even a Franco-hater. It was just too easy.
I mean he stole a ton of personal info and stuff.
There are a lot of hardcore hackers that got a ton more time than that.
Tell me what you think?
Ok, there are studies that show the impact of introduced wolf packs are having a positive impact on some areas in Canada.
..... (you get the picture)
On the other hand, it seems like every time we introduce a non-native bit of flora and fauna to the North American landscape we end up with those jumping fish in the Mississippi river or kudzu all over everything in the South or
Outside of a very restricted park environment I can see a serious potential for tragedy here.
Wow.
That is a terrible lot of pain just to get some trash.
They had to do more than that on this mission.
Besides tugging at fabric and picking up the trash....
What are some other things they accomplished?
Considering they were selling the things faster than they could make them is a good indicator that perhaps the pricing was not all that out of line.
But it does make one wonder.
Would the macs have dominated the market if they had been priced at say $1500 or even 1900 instead of nearly $2500 US?
Time to switch banks.
Crap. I use them.
Man, with inside hack jobs it does not what you are running or what you do, somehow you can still end up getting screwed.
Yikes!!!
They are like mega-fast bad-*ss speedy chips right and they are power-pc right?
I can understand what Intel gets them but barely considering how they really make their money off the machines and not the software.
What is up with that?
:)
I mean it could not have been any worse unless they picked a cute picture of a flightless water fowl for their logo.
I mean we all know that would never fly with corporate America.
Nice to see people in general in private and public sector funded groups dishing out the code.
Not that useful? So what.
Its like that ugly tie from your sweet 80 year old Aunt --- its the thought that counts.
Will the cable companies work with Tivo to get this going or will they do what another poster said and reverse engineer.
Of course btw, to another poster it runs linux.
There is a linux port to just about everything. Hell, my toaster runs linux produces GNU/Linux toast with the faces of Stallman and Linus facing off to each other for goodness sakes.
I really do wonder though how long it will take before someone out-Tivo's Tivo.
We got the more room for porn post.
Good job.
We got the when will we see this kind of capacity on my iPod post.
Good job.
Now all the need is -- (drum roll please) --
But does linux support it yet?
I mean this guy had a ton of stories and the article don't get me wrong was ended well.
It just seemed to brief.
The Woz story is just funny stuff.
It kind of reminded me of my only non-corporate IT work experience where I was a tech support guy for a small niche software company.
Very nice and some people here seem to thing that Andy does not get enough credit.
I typically agree but it is good to note that a number of tech friends interested in the history of computers know his name so perhaps the knowledge won't get totally lost.
I mean I love most of the gnu software I have running on my system and god bless any contributor to that effort but - woh! - he says some of the funniest things like:
The Workplace:
JA: What if your job requires you to use non-free software?
Richard Stallman: I would quit that job. Would you participate in something anti-social just because somebody pays you to?
I mean come on. Both free and non-free software has its place in the modern world and I need to take technology to a religious level like I need a hole in my head.
He is sooo wacky.