First stay in college and get some kind of techincal degree, your first job in IT will depend more on grades and what your degree is in as opposed to what your resume says.
I politely disagree with this. I have been in a LOT of interviews with a LOT of different companies (including Microsoft...ah my misbegotten youth!) and no one has ever asked about my grades. A co-op or an internship will, but an actual salaried position won't care. It's been my xperience that if they liked your resume enough to bring you in, they could care less what your GPA was.
This is not to say education isn't important. In fact, quite the opposite. Education gives you the base you need to get started in the working world. There is no replacement for higher education. However, I think you'll find that most SysAdmins that you work under or with at some point will tell you about how they got a degree in Forestry (true story!) or didn't even finish college. In OUR field, skills and experience are paramount over education.
I'm 23 and in the Detroit area. When I was 18, I had basic-moderate knowledge of Linux. I attended the University of Michigan.
I've helped a bunch of my boys with no real experience other than "playing around" in their free time get entry-level IT gigs. It's all about knowing how to put the skills you have down on paper. Drop me an e-mail if you get the chance.
The Corporate IT market is suffering righ tnow, but I've found that the educational IT market is thriving if anything. We get floods of people who have been laid off from XYZ corporation due to shrinking corporate pockets.
I've always been interested in computers (as have most of the/. readership). I had to leave school for financial reasons, and needed to find a job and FAST. All the UNIX I knew I'd picked up on the job (I worked as a web developer for a time) as well as in my introductory EECS courses. I knew basic commands and plenty of programming (Perl), so I took the 'Linux plunge' in my own time to teach myself some things. Many hard knocks, late nights, huge fuck-ups, and O'Reilly books later, I am a full-time UNIX Systems Administrator, with crazy-mad Linux (Debian, baby!), Solaris (v.2.5 and up), IBM AIX (I don't want to talk about it), and HP-UX )God save us) skills. My web development background dovetailed nicely with my knowledge of Apache and Netscape (yes, they still make 'em) web servers.
Or Lloyd Alexander's 'Black Cauldron' series. I remember these books keeping me seated in the library for days at a time. My very first "can't put it down" books.
Statute of limitations. And I was under the impression that recently the Statute of Limitations was being aggresively petitioned to be removed from acts of terrorism. Which, in related news, computer crimes (like circumventing an encryption scheme), are soon to be classified as.
And MSN e-mail requires the creating of a Microsoft Passport account. The path towards the all-MS desktop/Internet experience seems to be going more quickly than even I thought.
I read somewhere (Cinescape, maybe? Before they screwed the format up...) that they're not sure what to do with Aaliyah's character. Quuen of the Damned, however, is supposed to be ~90% complete.
Konqueror does exactly that. Disable just window.open(), or disable is for specific sites. You can also enable-disable Java/JavaScript in general on a site-by-site if you like. It also supports accepting cookies only from specified sites. Makes me happy.
When Mozilla does this, I'll be a true GNOME convert. Until such time, it's apt-get install konqueror task-ximian-desktop enlightenment for me.
The departmental colors (Red = Command, Blue = Medical, Gold = Engineering/Security) are present in the piping on the otherwise staid blue uniforms. In other words, the guys with the Gold piping are gonna get smoked.:-D
OK, THAT'S funny. Especially given the obscene number of times I've heard "they didn't teach us anything like this at the academy" in ALL The ST series. Kudos.
And here I thought that being a web/Linux geek and being a wrestling fan were mutually exclusive. Hats off to both of you for making me feel like less of a turbo zoom dweebie.
--MiB (Enterprise today, Smackdown/Football tomorrow, PHP programming in between!)
...by this logic, ALL digital storage devices should have a tax levied for "Possible Copyright Infringement". This is absolutely ridiculous. It's like taxing automobiles for "Possible Traffic Hazards".
I can buy a Firewire hard drive and lug all the mp3s I and anyone else I know owns around with me. I can back that hard drive up to tape, CD, optical disk, what have you. Should all these things be taxes because *I'm* an asshole?
Sorry just a little pissed. This has to stop somewhere.
Slashdot Mirror
:-D And the award for 'Most Clever way to get Site Traffic' goes to....
Agreed.
...waiting 15 seconds....
...waiting...
...OK, now.
First stay in college and get some kind of techincal degree, your first job in IT will depend more on grades and what your degree is in as opposed to what your resume says.
I politely disagree with this. I have been in a LOT of interviews with a LOT of different companies (including Microsoft...ah my misbegotten youth!) and no one has ever asked about my grades. A co-op or an internship will, but an actual salaried position won't care. It's been my xperience that if they liked your resume enough to bring you in, they could care less what your GPA was.
This is not to say education isn't important. In fact, quite the opposite. Education gives you the base you need to get started in the working world. There is no replacement for higher education. However, I think you'll find that most SysAdmins that you work under or with at some point will tell you about how they got a degree in Forestry (true story!) or didn't even finish college. In OUR field, skills and experience are paramount over education.
Now software development, on the other hand...
I'm 23 and in the Detroit area. When I was 18, I had basic-moderate knowledge of Linux. I attended the University of Michigan.
I've helped a bunch of my boys with no real experience other than "playing around" in their free time get entry-level IT gigs. It's all about knowing how to put the skills you have down on paper. Drop me an e-mail if you get the chance.
The Corporate IT market is suffering righ tnow, but I've found that the educational IT market is thriving if anything. We get floods of people who have been laid off from XYZ corporation due to shrinking corporate pockets.
I've always been interested in computers (as have most of the /. readership). I had to leave school for financial reasons, and needed to find a job and FAST. All the UNIX I knew I'd picked up on the job (I worked as a web developer for a time) as well as in my introductory EECS courses. I knew basic commands and plenty of programming (Perl), so I took the 'Linux plunge' in my own time to teach myself some things. Many hard knocks, late nights, huge fuck-ups, and O'Reilly books later, I am a full-time UNIX Systems Administrator, with crazy-mad Linux (Debian, baby!), Solaris (v.2.5 and up), IBM AIX (I don't want to talk about it), and HP-UX )God save us) skills. My web development background dovetailed nicely with my knowledge of Apache and Netscape (yes, they still make 'em) web servers.
That's kind of the abbreviated version. My resume page outlines the journey a lot better.
Luck!
My thing is, what in GOD'S NAME where you doing on the Lesbian News page?
Not that there's anything wrong with the current appearance, it's just time for a change.
How very Microsoft-ian of you.
Dude. Smoke a cigarette. Do some push-ups. Get a new tattoo. It'll be OK.
Or Lloyd Alexander's 'Black Cauldron' series. I remember these books keeping me seated in the library for days at a time. My very first "can't put it down" books.
. Language skills are essential -- an ungrammatical, misspelled web page is unprofessional.
I agree that a grammatically incorrect site is an unprofessional site, however, as so many of you misunderstand:
$born_in_inner_city ne "ignorant"
I have spoken.
MiB, born and raised in Detroit, MI
Statute of limitations. And I was under the impression that recently the Statute of Limitations was being aggresively petitioned to be removed from acts of terrorism. Which, in related news, computer crimes (like circumventing an encryption scheme), are soon to be classified as.
Having fun yet?
And MSN e-mail requires the creating of a Microsoft Passport account. The path towards the all-MS desktop/Internet experience seems to be going more quickly than even I thought.
"All too easy" -- Darth Vader
Actually, that's the message number. 444444 actually is his UID, as he stated here.
Agreed.
I read somewhere (Cinescape, maybe? Before they screwed the format up...) that they're not sure what to do with Aaliyah's character. Quuen of the Damned, however, is supposed to be ~90% complete.
Dagnabbit. Now I'm sad again.
Well, we have to protect our own.
Move along...nothing more to see here.
Mr. Anderson....what good is a +1 bonus if you can't....post?
Konqueror does exactly that. Disable just window.open(), or disable is for specific sites. You can also enable-disable Java/JavaScript in general on a site-by-site if you like. It also supports accepting cookies only from specified sites. Makes me happy.
When Mozilla does this, I'll be a true GNOME convert. Until such time, it's apt-get install konqueror task-ximian-desktop enlightenment for me.
Yep. I'm a goon.
:-D
The departmental colors (Red = Command, Blue = Medical, Gold = Engineering/Security) are present in the piping on the otherwise staid blue uniforms. In other words, the guys with the Gold piping are gonna get smoked.
OK, THAT'S funny. Especially given the obscene number of times I've heard "they didn't teach us anything like this at the academy" in ALL The ST series. Kudos.
If you're trying to imply that Jolene Blalock isn't enough of a 'hook', then you're sadly SADLY mistaken.
And here I thought that being a web/Linux geek and being a wrestling fan were mutually exclusive. Hats off to both of you for making me feel like less of a turbo zoom dweebie.
--MiB (Enterprise today, Smackdown/Football tomorrow, PHP programming in between!)
It's posts like these that make me proud to be an American. Nothing like sheer unadulterated ANGER to give me my mid-afternoon kick.
Keep it up, dude!
...by this logic, ALL digital storage devices should have a tax levied for "Possible Copyright Infringement". This is absolutely ridiculous. It's like taxing automobiles for "Possible Traffic Hazards".
I can buy a Firewire hard drive and lug all the mp3s I and anyone else I know owns around with me. I can back that hard drive up to tape, CD, optical disk, what have you. Should all these things be taxes because *I'm* an asshole?
Sorry just a little pissed. This has to stop somewhere.
They're still in business? I was under the impression that the Infineon (sp) judgement was crippling...hm.
Actually, it's Wachowski. Jeez.
From Netcraft...
The site www.humanclock.com is running Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) PHP/4.0.3 AuthMySQL/2.20 on FreeBSD.
No uptime available, though...I blame the Slashdot Effect. :-)