3.SS-Pz.Div. "Totenkopf" was a Waffen SS Division, they didn't run the camps.
http://www.feldgrau.com/3ss.html
They were a combat Armor division on the Western and Eastern front.
"Although after a shaky start they gained a fearsome fighting reputation they will always be associated with the concentration camp system and the running of the camps. This is due to the fact that the origins for this division can be traced back to the Totenkopfverbande which consisted of five pre-war standarten (regiments) who along with a few members of the SS-VT were responsible for guarding the concentration camps in Germany such as Dachau. This situation still persisted when the war started with guards being interchanged from frontline to concentration camp guard duties, however this practice was stopped when the invasion of Russia took place and manpower was needed at the front. Then the practice of interchanging men was almost identical as with any other Waffen SS unit."
At the time they were guarding the Camps, they were Concentration Camps in the role of, Concentration peoples togeather, the murder for which the camps will be famous for wasn't spelled out until 1942.
I'm not defending the Waffen-SS or anyother SS, but the 3.SS-Panzer was a combat Panzer unit and not a bunch of thugs shooting or gasing folks in a camp. They were a bunch of thugs shooting folks and burning villiages with tanks.
Sim City, Civ 3, Age of Mythology, Age of Empires...they are all good.
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Well it was and it wasn't.
The Patriot and the Standard Missile in use by the US Navy were basicly the same system in the begining, with the exception of the transportation and equipment differences from being on land or at sea.
The Standards came into use before Patriot when they replaced Tartar in the US and other Navies.
The first Standards and Patriots were capable of low flying aircraft and cruise missille defense, but at the time the focus was on the large Mach 2+ missiles the Soviets were deploying and the larger Soviet strike fighters like Flogger.
In the 1980s the Army and Navy defined more roles for thier SAMs and the PAC-2 Patriot started to be tested. That is the SAM from the Persian Gulf War 1990-91. It has a max altitude of 24km and a max range of 160km.
The software sent to the Persian Gulf in 1990-91 was Alpha software and the computer bug that caused the problems was known, operator error had a large part to play in the situation that lead to the strike on the Barracks in Saudi Arabia.
"Two harriers and at least one helicopter(I believe it had close to 30 British troops on board) were shot down that way. Nobody survived."
http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/pdf/a ir craft_losses.pdf
Tornado GR4 Patriot system mistakenly identified aircraft as enemy missiles. 2 dead F/A-18C Hornet Patriot system mistakenly identified aircraft as enemy missiles. 1 dead CH-46 Sea Knight Under investigation. No hostile fire reported in area, according to AP. Dead include eight Royal Marines. 12 dead H-3 Sea King Two craft collide over water. Dead include 1 U.S. Navy crewman. 7 dead
No Harriers lost in OIF or the reconstruction, nor were any helicopters lost from Patriot firings.
The first thing to know about Novell is that Netware rocks.
The second thing to know about Novell is to never, ever believe anything they ever say about a product other than...well any of thier products or roadmaps or projected features or plans.
Well, there is no such thing as "Freedom of Expression" at least in the Constitution or US Code I've read, however there is Freedom of Speech. In some state constitutions there is a freedom of expression and thats why Oregon has tittie bars* everywhere, since that's "dancing" and that's protected.
There is Religion, Speech, Press, Assembly, Petition freedoms, and a bunch of legal protections, but no vauge "Freedom of Expression.
Now I don't know about British law, but in the US things like cannibalism and necrophilia are illegal at the state and local level so if some DA wanted to go after them, it'd be perfectly legal.
* - If you are going into a strip club and there is a Corvette or 911 with handicap plates, it's a rough strip club. Likewise if there is a bouncer in body armor with an MP-5, it's a rough place.
And further S-70/UH-60 versions have moved away from that Blackhawk name and moved to versions of the Hawk, Pavehawk, Dustoff Hawk, Seahawk, Oceanhawk.
"A-16 for the CAS/BAI Missions - In the 1980s, the USAF started setting aside F-16s for the planned A-16 modification, a dedicated close air support version of the F-16. In 1989, the designation Block 60 was reserved for the A-16. The A-16 Block 60 was to be equipped with a 30 mm cannon and provided with a strengthened wing structure for anti-tank weapons such as 7.62 mm min pods. This project failed because the 30 mm gun would heat up and senge the inner components of the left fuselage."
http://www.f-16.net/reference/versions/f16_fa.ht ml "On the same November 26th, 1990, when the USAF was forced to opt for the A-10 in stead of the A-16, the decision was made to retrofit up to 400 existing Block 30 F-16C/Ds with new equipment to perform the CAS (close Air Support) and BAI (Battlefield Air Interdiction) missions, effectively killing the A-16 program. Modifications would include a Global Positioning System (GPS), Digital Terrain System (DTS), system hardening, modular mission computer, and an Automatic Target Handoff System (ATHS)."
"In November 1988, the 174th TFW of the New York ANG began transitioning from the A-10A Thunderbolt II to the F-16A/B Block 10, becoming the first unit to operate the F-16 in a close air support role.
"During Desert Storm, their 24 F-16A/B aircraft were equipped to carry the General Electric GPU-5/A Pave Claw pod on the centerline station. The pod houses a 30mm GAU-13/A four-barrel derivative of the seven-barrel GAU-8/A cannon used by the A-10A, and 353 rounds of ammunition. The aircraft received the new designation F/A-16, and were the only F-16s ever to be equipped with this weapon, intended for use against a variety of battlefield targets, including armor."
The replacement for the A-10 by the F-16 didn't work. There was one unit in Desert Storm of the modified F-16s which carried a 4 barrel version of the A-10's gun in a center-line pod, but it didn't do well so that was put on the back burner.
Now the plan is to replace the A-10 with an STOL version of the F-35 and to keep some of the A-10s through 2033.
The United States Army names helicopters after Tribes both because of the warrior tradition present in the tribe's cultural history and because of a long tradition of American Indians serving with the United States military and the services that came before.
Permission is requested from the Tribal Elders and the proposed name is used only if permission is granted. At the roll out ceremony for the aircraft, representatives of the tribe are honored guests and a Native American ceremony to bless the aircraft is performed.
MILES and I should have referenced this, is the gaming hardware the DoD uses for wargames. It's basicly Laser-Tag.
http://www.lewis.army.mil/wrtsc/Fort_Lewis_TSC_f il es/TADSS_files/Miles_files/new_miles.htm
http://www.ets-news.com/miles2000.htm
The gaming of situtation does not change the military because they already simulate and game combat and have for decades. Lethal environments have been simulated on bases and in the field for years and years.
From simulated US attacks on Israel where the IDF fights back, to the Crucible Gradution Exercises for Marines to Fort Irwin and fighting OpFor to the tank and helicopter simulators to practicing close quarter battle, it's been gamed and this Sim is simply an extention of it.
"TacOps 4 is the commercial version of "TacOpsCav 4", an officially issued standard training device of the US Army. It is a simulation of contemporary and near-future tactical, ground, combat between United States (Army and Marine), Canadian, New Zealand/Australian and German forces versus various opposing forces (OPFOR), simulating the Former Soviet Union, China, North Korea etc. Various civilian units and paramilitary forces are also included."
Gaming doesn't blur the distinction anymore than the training to take orders and it's "Us vs. Them" does for a soldier.
Since 1942 the US Army has trained at Ft. Irwin in wargames. Commanders already see the theatre of operations as a game, thats how they deal with the massive amounts of people, equipment and casualties they will deal with. At the lower level, situtations have been gamed for hundreds of years and numerical values have been established to units, ships and fortifications have been in use since at least the 1750s.
You mean like this story here? http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04 /02/18/ 2330228 Which talked about stuff from here http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/ 01/16/ 1951256
I see the same amount of new players, when the new player cycles hit, as I have for the last 5 years.
When I say, cycles, it's been my experiance that new players come in waves during the year and there are dry spells.
I see new players all the time, usually ages 14-36, I run an Old West MUSH, and we're kind of controlling so our player base isn't big, but most everyone I talk to see the same numbers of people coming on as they have for years.
Theres as many players on the games I play, as were on the games I played in 94-96, and they aren't the same players.
At least in my experiance. While I don't MUD, I MUSH/MUX and one can get the same number of players and the same quality of players today as you could 7-8 years ago.
I always thought it was...then I didn't...then I did...and now I'm sure it's not.
Looking at the Dude with the Ferarri laptop's website sold me.
"The Enderle Group provides an unparalleled look underneath breaking technology events to identify the core reasons that buyers and builders of this technology should care. The stated goal for the firm is "to bring diverse and challenging views into technology advisory services and consulting"."
If anyone can totally misjudge the future of a product or technology, it's a consultant.
"People don't drive from work, church, softball or their kids soccer games drunk, they drive from the BAR, drunk."
Drunks get drunk anywhere. I've had fifth grade teachers who were drunks, high school teachers that got smashed in thier breakroom during school, I've had friends who go tanked at break during work, I've known people who did indeed get drunk while working at church.
"Bars are usually pretty close together in a decent sized city, so make it easier (and comfortable/affordable) for people to get to and from nightspots and they won't DRIVE."
What about in a not decent sized city? Mass transit is going to be horribly expensive in a rural area like most of New Mexico.
In some states one can't take away one's livelyhood and that means they can't take thier vehicle.
In the US, I'd say that 80% of the West has no mass-transit and at least 30% of the East doesn't so without a vehicle there is no way to get to the job.
Again, it depends on the state. I was serving time for a non-drinking offense in '93 and a jailmate (there were two of us in the whole place) was serving 45 weekends so he could get his 90 days sentance taken care of. He'd gotten 90 days for drunk driving, but since he was an electrician they couldn't take away his job with the sentance.
"The game had to be built with an OS image on the CD."
That would be easy, I used to have a 7.5.5 boot CD and if I remember right, that stripped down System Folder took up all of about 30 MB with full network functionality.
Once we made a System 7.1 boot floppy with Appletalk and I don't remember what else so that we could dasiy-chain Performa 5xx series machines with the old LocalTalk boxes and phone cords and reformated 14 of them at a time from my G3 AIO.
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3.SS-Pz.Div. "Totenkopf" was a Waffen SS Division, they didn't run the camps.
http://www.feldgrau.com/3ss.html
They were a combat Armor division on the Western and Eastern front.
"Although after a shaky start they gained a fearsome fighting reputation they will always be associated with the concentration camp system and the running of the camps. This is due to the fact that the origins for this division can be traced back to the Totenkopfverbande which consisted of five pre-war standarten (regiments) who along with a few members of the SS-VT were responsible for guarding the concentration camps in Germany such as Dachau. This situation still persisted when the war started with guards being interchanged from frontline to concentration camp guard duties, however this practice was stopped when the invasion of Russia took place and manpower was needed at the front. Then the practice of interchanging men was almost identical as with any other Waffen SS unit."
At the time they were guarding the Camps, they were Concentration Camps in the role of, Concentration peoples togeather, the murder for which the camps will be famous for wasn't spelled out until 1942.
I'm not defending the Waffen-SS or anyother SS, but the 3.SS-Panzer was a combat Panzer unit and not a bunch of thugs shooting or gasing folks in a camp. They were a bunch of thugs shooting folks and burning villiages with tanks.
Sim City, Civ 3, Age of Mythology, Age of Empires...they are all good.
Well it was and it wasn't.
The Patriot and the Standard Missile in use by the US Navy were basicly the same system in the begining, with the exception of the transportation and equipment differences from being on land or at sea.
The Standards came into use before Patriot when they replaced Tartar in the US and other Navies.
The first Standards and Patriots were capable of low flying aircraft and cruise missille defense, but at the time the focus was on the large Mach 2+ missiles the Soviets were deploying and the larger Soviet strike fighters like Flogger.
In the 1980s the Army and Navy defined more roles for thier SAMs and the PAC-2 Patriot started to be tested. That is the SAM from the Persian Gulf War 1990-91. It has a max altitude of 24km and a max range of 160km.
The software sent to the Persian Gulf in 1990-91 was Alpha software and the computer bug that caused the problems was known, operator error had a large part to play in the situation that lead to the strike on the Barracks in Saudi Arabia.
"Two harriers and at least one helicopter(I believe it had close to 30 British troops on board) were shot down that way. Nobody survived."
a ir craft_losses.pdf
http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/pdf/
Tornado GR4
Patriot system mistakenly identified aircraft as enemy missiles. 2 dead
F/A-18C Hornet
Patriot system mistakenly identified aircraft as enemy missiles. 1 dead
CH-46 Sea Knight
Under investigation. No hostile fire reported in area, according to AP. Dead include eight Royal Marines. 12 dead
H-3 Sea King
Two craft collide over water. Dead include 1 U.S. Navy crewman. 7 dead
No Harriers lost in OIF or the reconstruction, nor were any helicopters lost from Patriot firings.
"Two harriers and at least one helicopter(I believe it had close to 30 British troops on board) were shot down that way. Nobody survived."
a ir craft_losses.pdf
http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/pdf/
Tornado GR4
The first thing to know about Novell is that Netware rocks.
The second thing to know about Novell is to never, ever believe anything they ever say about a product other than...well any of thier products or roadmaps or projected features or plans.
My question is, how the fuck do they get it to weigh 16 pounds?
A 17" Powerbook weighs 6.9 pounds, has a DVD burner.
I had a really kickass Walkman that cost like 270 back in '90. It was super-super slim, and had a rechargable battery and a module for a single AA.
Well, there is no such thing as "Freedom of Expression" at least in the Constitution or US Code I've read, however there is Freedom of Speech. In some state constitutions there is a freedom of expression and thats why Oregon has tittie bars* everywhere, since that's "dancing" and that's protected.
There is Religion, Speech, Press, Assembly, Petition freedoms, and a bunch of legal protections, but no vauge "Freedom of Expression.
Now I don't know about British law, but in the US things like cannibalism and necrophilia are illegal at the state and local level so if some DA wanted to go after them, it'd be perfectly legal.
* - If you are going into a strip club and there is a Corvette or 911 with handicap plates, it's a rough strip club. Likewise if there is a bouncer in body armor with an MP-5, it's a rough place.
And further S-70/UH-60 versions have moved away from that Blackhawk name and moved to versions of the Hawk, Pavehawk, Dustoff Hawk, Seahawk, Oceanhawk.
Yea, I was rushed for time earlier.
t ml
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http://www.voodoo.cz/falcon/versions.html
"A-16 for the CAS/BAI Missions - In the 1980s, the USAF started setting aside F-16s for the planned A-16 modification, a dedicated close air support version of the F-16. In 1989, the designation Block 60 was reserved for the A-16. The A-16 Block 60 was to be equipped with a 30 mm cannon and provided with a strengthened wing structure for anti-tank weapons such as 7.62 mm min pods. This project failed because the 30 mm gun would heat up and senge the inner components of the left fuselage."
http://www.f-16.net/reference/versions/f16_fa.h
"On the same November 26th, 1990, when the USAF was forced to opt for the A-10 in stead of the A-16, the decision was made to retrofit up to 400 existing Block 30 F-16C/Ds with new equipment to perform the CAS (close Air Support) and BAI (Battlefield Air Interdiction) missions, effectively killing the A-16 program. Modifications would include a Global Positioning System (GPS), Digital Terrain System (DTS), system hardening, modular mission computer, and an Automatic Target Handoff System (ATHS)."
"In November 1988, the 174th TFW of the New York ANG began transitioning from the A-10A Thunderbolt II to the F-16A/B Block 10, becoming the first unit to operate the F-16 in a close air support role.
"During Desert Storm, their 24 F-16A/B aircraft were equipped to carry the General Electric GPU-5/A Pave Claw pod on the centerline station. The pod houses a 30mm GAU-13/A four-barrel derivative of the seven-barrel GAU-8/A cannon used by the A-10A, and 353 rounds of ammunition. The aircraft received the new designation F/A-16, and were the only F-16s ever to be equipped with this weapon, intended for use against a variety of battlefield targets, including armor."
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/gau
The replacement for the A-10 by the F-16 didn't work. There was one unit in Desert Storm of the modified F-16s which carried a 4 barrel version of the A-10's gun in a center-line pod, but it didn't do well so that was put on the back burner.
Now the plan is to replace the A-10 with an STOL version of the F-35 and to keep some of the A-10s through 2033.
The United States Army names helicopters after Tribes both because of the warrior tradition present in the tribe's cultural history and because of a long tradition of American Indians serving with the United States military and the services that came before.
Permission is requested from the Tribal Elders and the proposed name is used only if permission is granted. At the roll out ceremony for the aircraft, representatives of the tribe are honored guests and a Native American ceremony to bless the aircraft is performed.
MILES and I should have referenced this, is the gaming hardware the DoD uses for wargames. It's basicly Laser-Tag.
f il es/TADSS_files/Miles_files/new_miles.htm
http://www.lewis.army.mil/wrtsc/Fort_Lewis_TSC_
http://www.ets-news.com/miles2000.htm
The gaming of situtation does not change the military because they already simulate and game combat and have for decades. Lethal environments have been simulated on bases and in the field for years and years.
From simulated US attacks on Israel where the IDF fights back, to the Crucible Gradution Exercises for Marines to Fort Irwin and fighting OpFor to the tank and helicopter simulators to practicing close quarter battle, it's been gamed and this Sim is simply an extention of it.
Already combat training takes on gaming aspect with tools like the MILES, the classic sandbox and tools like Major H's Tac-Ops
o ps 4.html
http://www.battlefront.com/products/tacops4/tac
"TacOps 4 is the commercial version of "TacOpsCav 4", an officially issued standard training device of the US Army. It is a simulation of contemporary and near-future tactical, ground, combat between United States (Army and Marine), Canadian, New Zealand/Australian and German forces versus various opposing forces (OPFOR), simulating the Former Soviet Union, China, North Korea etc. Various civilian units and paramilitary forces are also included."
Gaming doesn't blur the distinction anymore than the training to take orders and it's "Us vs. Them" does for a soldier.
Since 1942 the US Army has trained at Ft. Irwin in wargames. Commanders already see the theatre of operations as a game, thats how they deal with the massive amounts of people, equipment and casualties they will deal with. At the lower level, situtations have been gamed for hundreds of years and numerical values have been established to units, ships and fortifications have been in use since at least the 1750s.
You mean like this story here?4 /02/18/ 2330228/ 01/16/ 1951256
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0
Which talked about stuff from here
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04
I see the same amount of new players, when the new player cycles hit, as I have for the last 5 years.
When I say, cycles, it's been my experiance that new players come in waves during the year and there are dry spells.
I see new players all the time, usually ages 14-36, I run an Old West MUSH, and we're kind of controlling so our player base isn't big, but most everyone I talk to see the same numbers of people coming on as they have for years.
Theres as many players on the games I play, as were on the games I played in 94-96, and they aren't the same players.
They are not dying.
At least in my experiance. While I don't MUD, I MUSH/MUX and one can get the same number of players and the same quality of players today as you could 7-8 years ago.
I always thought it was...then I didn't...then I did...and now I'm sure it's not.
Looking at the Dude with the Ferarri laptop's website sold me.
"The Enderle Group provides an unparalleled look underneath breaking technology events to identify the core reasons that buyers and builders of this technology should care. The stated goal for the firm is "to bring diverse and challenging views into technology advisory services and consulting"."
If anyone can totally misjudge the future of a product or technology, it's a consultant.
I tried that.
Was sitting in a vehicle, didn't have the keys. Got thrown in jail.
200 dollars, 1 year probation.
The Indian Reservations.
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This law wouldn't apply to thier cars on or off the Reservation.
In New Mexico there are alot of them.
http://www.fema.gov/graphics/tribal/indian
"People don't drive from work, church, softball or their kids soccer games drunk, they drive from the BAR, drunk."
Drunks get drunk anywhere. I've had fifth grade teachers who were drunks, high school teachers that got smashed in thier breakroom during school, I've had friends who go tanked at break during work, I've known people who did indeed get drunk while working at church.
"Bars are usually pretty close together in a decent sized city, so make it easier (and comfortable/affordable) for people to get to and from nightspots and they won't DRIVE."
What about in a not decent sized city? Mass transit is going to be horribly expensive in a rural area like most of New Mexico.
In some states one can't take away one's livelyhood and that means they can't take thier vehicle.
In the US, I'd say that 80% of the West has no mass-transit and at least 30% of the East doesn't so without a vehicle there is no way to get to the job.
Again, it depends on the state. I was serving time for a non-drinking offense in '93 and a jailmate (there were two of us in the whole place) was serving 45 weekends so he could get his 90 days sentance taken care of. He'd gotten 90 days for drunk driving, but since he was an electrician they couldn't take away his job with the sentance.
"The game had to be built with an OS image on the CD."
That would be easy, I used to have a 7.5.5 boot CD and if I remember right, that stripped down System Folder took up all of about 30 MB with full network functionality.
Once we made a System 7.1 boot floppy with Appletalk and I don't remember what else so that we could dasiy-chain Performa 5xx series machines with the old LocalTalk boxes and phone cords and reformated 14 of them at a time from my G3 AIO.
I
I think they should all use the sort of system that HBO flashes before a program.
Icons with 1 to 2 letter codes for what's in the program with a short discription.
Grand Theft Auto Vice City
SC - Strong Sexual Content
V - Violence
AS - Adult Situations
AC - Adult Comedy